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Pt Sanjay Rath wrote:

>

> OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

>

> Dear Karu,

> Thank you for attempting the reply as it is giving me a vital feedback

> so that I can make the lessons easier. Sarat has been working very hard for

> the benefit of you all. My comments are below:-

> You Wrote: -

> -

> Karu <heen

> <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>

> Cc: Sarat Chander <saratchander

> Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:48 PM

> [Jagannath] Re: lesson 2

>

> > Jaya Jaya Jaganath,

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> >

> > Dear Gurudeva,

> >

> > >> Q1) Which Graha is given over-lordship of the divisions and why?

> >

> > I have read two lessons few times and took long time and still trying to

> > understand. I believe, this type of knowledge cannot obtain within few

> days,

> > as every time when I read, it is giving me some extra thoughts.

> > I hope I will be able to understand this with your help, until such time I

> > will forward my understanding to the list. It is as follows;

> >

> > All animates (incarnate) in the universe consist of 3 major elements, such

> > as

> > 1.Soul -Jeewathma

> > 2.Mind - Desire

> > 3.Physical Body - Panchabutha

> >

> > While Soul signify by Sun, mind signify by Moon, Panchabootha signify by

> > other 5 Grahas.

> > The major part of the above is the Sun, can become Paramathma by

> > (controlling desire) improving Sathva guna. So I think Sun is having

> > over-loadship and the most important as the Jeewathma of all lives.

>

> RATH: YOU HAVE ARRIVED AT THE CORRECT ANSWER, BUT THE LOGIC IS NOT CLEAR.

> PERHAPS YOU HAD SOME IDEA'S BUT THEY ARE NOT YET CLEAR. ATMA HAS TWO PARTS

> TO IT AS THE JEEVATMA AND THE PARAMATMA WHICH ARE THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL AND

> THE SUPER SOUL BOTH ENCOMPASSED IN A CAGE IN THE HEART. THERE ARE OTHER

> EXPLANATIONS TO THIS, AND I LEAVE IT HERE.

> MANA IS LOOSELY INTERPRETED AS MIND. ACTUALLY IN INCLUDES THE VARIOUS

> LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS. THIS CAN INCLUDE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE PHYSICAL

> LEVEL AS WELL AS VARIOUS OTHER LEVELS.

> DEHA MEANS BODY AND IT MERELY REFERS TO THE PHYSICAL EXISTENCE OF THE

> PANCHATATWA IN APARTICULAR FORM LIKE A HUMAN BODY OR ANY INANIMATE OBJECT.

>

> BUT YOU HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED THE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF THE ATMA. PLEASE

> RETHINK.

 

Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

 

To try to say few things on these things.

 

Moon reflects the light of the Sun. ceto darpana marjanam...By influence

of the planets on the Moon it could be modified, what is illumined.

 

Kendras:1st Maha Vishnu, sattwa, what remains throughout your life is a

sense of identity.

10th house: Param Brahma-plase of rajas, activity in this world

7th house:Sada Shiva, destruction, maraka sthana

4th house:Vasudeva (moon and venus in 4th leading to the Lord)

 

Prevailing Guna of Trikonas(5th - rajas, 1st tamas, 9th sattva???). We

are born in tamas, taught by gurussattva, and teach to children, rajas.

???

 

Z

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> >

> > > Q2) Make a shematic representation of the Earth, Bha-Chakra and mark out

> > > areas of Nara and Narayana.

> >

> > " Maharishi Parasara divided the whole universal expanse or Narayana

> > into four parts. This four-fold division of the Universe is also carried

> > further into Jyotish as its second fundamental division of the Bha-Chakra

> > (Zodiac symbolizing the body of Narayana) into four parts called Kendra

> > (Quadrants). "

> >

> > So Narayana indicating by 1,4,7 and 10.

> >

> > Further, having uncleared feeling that 4th house indicates Maha Vishnu

> > Satva Guna), 7th house indicating Param Brahma ( Rajas Guna), and 10th

> > house indicating Sada Shiva ( Thamas Guna). ???

>

> RATH: NO, VISHNU STATUES ARE GENERALLY STANDING (LAGNA), SHIVA IS GENERALLY

> WORSHIPPED AS SITTING IN A YOGIC POSTURE (7TH HOUSE) OR AS THE LINGA (7TH

> HOUSE).

>

> >

> > 4th Part ( May be 1st house) further divided in to two, imperceptible -

> > Vasudeva and perceptible- Krishna indicating by 5th and 9th.

> >

> > Questions:-

> >

> > 1.According to my understand, 3 quadrants are imperceptible. Is this

> > indicate any thing related to human life ?

>

> RATH: THE WHOLE BODY OF NARAYAN IS BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION OR PERCEPTION

> LIKE THE VASTNESS OF THIS UNIVERSE. HENCE, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REPRESENT

> THIS IS BY A BLANK PAGE.

>

> HINT: TRY TO DERIVE THE 12 SIGNS AND YOU WILL SEE HOW EASILY ALL FITS IN.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Sanjay Rath

>

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