[Jagannath] ISKCON'S CHART

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Namaste Yasomatinandana Prabhu,

I could finally read your long post only today. It was simply fantastic!

It has been a long time since I read such a beautiful chart analysis! I

cannot describe my happiness after reading such a wonderful analysis! Please

keep it up.

Hoping you wouldn't mind, I am forwarding this to vedic astrology list

also. Birthtime for reference:

Date of Birth: July

11, 1966

Time of Birth:

7:35:30 pm

Time Zone of Birth: 4:00 West of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 74 W 00

Latitude of Birth: 40 N 43

I will just add my 2 cents.

Dear Jyotisha,

With first offering respects to both my Diksa and Siksa Gurus,

Lord Sri

Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha-Krishna,

as well as

all of you let me humnbly try and say something on ISKCON chart.

In general, the chart is wonderful and strong. The Ascendant Lord

Jupiter

aspecting Lagna from the 7th by both Rasi and Graha drishti and

is in own

Naksatra. All the planets have strong Sadbala. Both Sun and Moon

are quite

strong which makes Raja-yogas possible but the Moon is somewhat

afflicted by

Rahu (they are still quite far away from each other) whcih makes

the results

of Raja-yoga not so durable and somewhat dissipate over time.

Saggitarius rising with Jupiter aspecting it makes ISKCON a bona-fide

preaching movement - fighting for spreading dharma. Aspects by

Mars

(Jnanakaraka and Yoga-karaka) and Sun (also 9th Lord) only sterngthen

this.

All the trinal lords in 7th aspecting lagna is a great combination.

Atmakaraka Sun is again in conjunction with

Jupiter and aspects Lagna which

signifies that The Supreme Lord Himself is guiding this movement

and also

teaching it's members by taking them through different lessons

for

purification. Lagna is also aspected by retrograde Saturn from

Pisces (Rasi

and graha dristi) which shows it's roots from a Vaisnava tradition

and also

makes it quite rigid and conservative. It also has an argala

from Ketu which

Aspect of Saturn on lagna also shows seva bhava - the spirit of service.

gives internal problems but also confirms it's

spiritual nature.

Arudha Lagna is in Virgo and is aspected by Saturn (Rasi and

Graha) and the

same Ju-Su-Ma (Rasi) combination as well. So it's image qute

corresponds to

reality. Plus we should add the well known "utility is the principle"

(Virgo), and it's imidge being often spoiled by fanatic neofite

devotees

often coming from the families with a lack of culture enen in

the mundane

sense (Saturn - Graha-dristi). It also has argalas from Ketu

and Mercury

which confirm the above.

I have my reservations in accepting this conclusion as being sound....

Lagnamsa (Leo) and Karakamsa (Taurus) are in

angles. Venus and Saturn are in

Lagnamsa - Tapaswi-yoga. Jupiter is in the 9th from Lagnamsa

aspecting it.

This all gives religious institution, more specifically, bhakti-yoga

and

also strong link with tradition. Mercury, Mars, and Rahu in the

5th

(Saggitarius) from Lagnamsa give high intellectual and managerial

knowlege

and research capabilities which sometimes makes it's members

rely more on

them rather then the Lord's mercy. These combinations also indicate

extensice literary contribution.

2nd Saturn lord is strong. 2nd house is aspected by Venus (Rasi-dristi)

which shows general prosperity. Argala of Saturn (3d) and Rahu-Moon

(4th)

add in here indicating cases of doubtful doubtful means (low-class

book

distribution techniques, drug plantations in New-Vrindavan etc.).

Venus also

causes subhargala from the 5th indicating wealth comig from sincerety

and

true knowege. 2nd house has also Graha-dristi of Mercury from

the 8th

(Cancer) indicating big donations and buisness schemes. Cancer

with Mercury

also conjoins with Sree Lagna and is also aspected by strong

Venus. Hora

Lagna is afflicted by Ketu and Rahu (Rasi-dristi) which does

not allow

ISKCON overtake Fords and others.

3rd house has both aspect and argala from Rahu-Moon. The latter

form

Sakti-yoga and gives generally bad relationships with other religious

organizations - aspect of Mercury helps here through communications

and use

of intelligence.

4th house and it's lord indicate good properties. But presence

of Saturn in

it show periodical loss of them. D-4 confirms it with Sun and

Saturn in

Ascendant Pisces and 4th , 4th house with dhana-karaka Mars in

it, aspected

by 1st Lord from Saggitarius. 4th Lord Mercury is in 11th but

afflicted by

Rahu. With vehicles it is so-so as in D-16 the 4th house has

a Rasi dristi

from the Moon but at the same time Venus is debilitated. So the

vehicles are

there and plenty but they are not generally being taken care

of properly

wich is the fact.

Regarding education, Rasi gives generally good things and D-24

is simply

brilliant. Ascendant Lord Mercury is exalted in the 4th and aspected

(Rasi)

by Jupiter and Saturn from Saggitarius. All kinds of knowledge

- both

spiritual, practical and tradtional. Venus and Moon are in the

9th in

Aquarius which gives higher spiritual education, and 9th lord

is in

conjunction with Jupiter. The nodes are in the 2nd indicate problems

in

communicating this knowledge outside ISKCON.

The 3rd lord in D-24 is Sun and he is exalted in 11th. Mercury is exalted.

So, as I see it, ISKCON should be blessed with excellent skills in communicating

knowledge.

Now we get Sakti-yoga in the 5th. It indicates

mistreatment of children in

ISKCON. In Saptamsa Ascendant Lord Jupiter is with Rahu and Saturn

in the

8th. But it is a little alleviated by the condition of the 5th

house and 5th

In Saptamsa (D-7), not only is lagna lord Jupiter with Saturn and Rahu

in 8th, but 5th has debilitated Mars. Despite the exaltation of 5th lord,

D-7 is very weak.

What does D-7 of an organization show? Who are the "children" of an

organization? Does D-7 of the chart of a movement show its future generations?

Perhaps...

Exalted Moon owns and aspects 5th and Mercury joins him. Hopefully,

his strength will help.

lord. Sakti-yoga's aspect on 3d brings problems

with other relitious

institutions which we discussed. It's aspect on the 9th brings

occasional

irreligious deeds. It's aspect on 12th causes it's sannyasis

fall down.

Fortunately, both the 12th and 9th have benefic aspects from

Mercury and

Ketu respectively. On the other hand, Sakti-yoga aspects both

3rd and 6th

from Aruddha-lagna which gives an excellent ability to fight

the so-called

external enimies.

Venus, the 6th lord is in it's own house. This

must show the nature of the

Movment as a great servant of all. Aspect of Ketu from Virgo

helps this.

It also suggests that the spirit of service may be colored with materialism.

Mars, Sun and Jupiter from a great Raja-yoga

in the 7th which makes it a

movement of a great social importance. I cannot but admire this

combination

and but a set of exclaimation signs !!!!!! as a general description.

At the

I will add a few more !!!!! :-)

same time the 7th lord is in 8th which indicates

ups and downs. Ascept of

Saturn from 4th also has it's negative effect.

The 8th Lord Moon is afflicted by Rahu which adds to the turmoils

in both

career and PR.

9th house is mixed being aspected by Rahu-Moon and Ketu. 9th Lord

Sun is in

excellent position. In general it makes ISKCON a highly spiritual

movement

Looking at ashtakavarga, 9th house has the least number of bindus (only

18). Pisces and Aries have the highest number of bindus (35). Spirit of

service and respect for tradition (Saturn) and devotion (5th) are ISKCON's

biggest strengths.

which is sometimes blemished by the mark of

materialistic Western culture.

The mark of materialistic western culture comes from Venus. The 2nd house

shows one's manners, taste, character and sense of well-being. Here Venus

is very very strong in own house (with 6 bindus in a sign with 30 bindus!)

and aspects 2nd. In D-27 (chart of strengths and weaknesses), Venus is

in 2nd in own house in Taurus. Because of these influences, the taste and

manners of ISKCON are influenced by materialism.

In addition, Venus is Amatya karaka (AmK). AmK shows the counsellors

(ministers) one has. Venus as AmK can show advice from people who are caught

in the web of maya.

Ghati lagna and varnada lagna are also in Taurus with Venus.

The position of the Sun also indicates the

unique figure of ISKCON's

father - Srila Prabhupada. The same is confirmed by D-12 where

the 9th lord

Saturn is in the Ascendant. Sun in the 12th in D-12 as well as

aspect of

Rahu-Ketu on th 9th in Rasi indicates early loss ot the father

as well as

his being a liberated soul.

Absolutely.

D-12 lagna is important in deciding one's heritage. Saturn in lagna

shows an old tradition (the same combination occurs in Pisces in D-60 also!).

Jupiter is in the 12th from AK - indicates

it's Founder-Acarya Srila

Prabhupada as the Guru-deliverer for all generations. In Visvamsa

the Moon

is in the 5th aspected by Mercury which indicates Lord Sri Krishna.

Brilliant. So this shows Krishna as the ishta daiva as one expects.

AK Sun in 9th in D-20 is fantastic. It shows that the soul of this organization

will be engaged in religious and dharmik activities.

10th house has the same good aspect of Rajayoga

and bad aspect of Saturn.

It's lord Mercury is in the 8th which gives ups and downs in

career. In

Dasamsa 10th lord Saturn is in the 10th but it also has debilitated

Jupiter

in it along with Rahu which confirms the same.]

Saturn in 10th in D-10 with Sasa yoga shows the spirit of service and stern

discipline as the basic characteristics of this organization's karma (action).

In dasamsa, 10th from AL is important for seeing the material conduct

in society. We have the influence of debilitated Venus there. It is yet

another reason for ISKCON's embrace of materialism in some matters.

Ketu in the 11th indicates friends among friends

among spiritually-minded

people. The 12th we already siscussed, adding that 12th lord

Mars is strong

and also there is Jupiter in 12th from Karakamsa which gives

it's members

all opportunitis of getting done with this material worlds provided

they

avoid trap of Western materialistic tendencies represented by

Rahu-Moon.

>From D-27 we get strong 1st , 2nd , 3rd , 6th and 9th houses

houses

indicating general condition, communications, vailour, defeat

of the

Lagna is particularly strong. I am very impressed by Mars in Aries lagna.

Dynamism and enterprise are the strengths. But Mercury in D-27 lagna usually

gives indecision, especially when he is a functional malefic in D-27.

enimies, and dharma respectively. The week

points are the same - Moon in the

8th which gives a lot of turmoil as well as problems with properties,

5th

lord Sun is in the 6th – mistreatment of children.

>From D-60 Saturn in Lagna Piaces indicates higly spiritual tradition

aspected also by Jupiter, Venus and mercury. Venus and Mercury

in the 4th

indicate worship of Sri Radha-Krishna as well as Saligramas in

Srila

Prabhupada's house. Moon in it's own house in Cancer aspected

by Rahu in

it's own house indicate the Hare Krishna Mantra received by parampara.

Ketu

and Mars in the 6th indicate the enimies of the tradition - impersonalism

and materialism.

In D-60, AL is in Ge and A6 is in Li. From AL, 3rd has Mars & Ketu

and 6th is empty. From A6, 3rd has Jupiter and 6th has Saturn. On the whole,

it looks like to me like neither the tradition from which ISKCON was born

nor the rival traditions were entirely saattwik. But I am not an expert

on D-60 and my comments could be wrong.

Sun in the 7th aspected by Jupiter, Saturn, Mercury

and

Venus gives rigidness in dealing with wother social groups and

institutions

which is iherited from Srila Bhaktisiddhantaji but at the same

time these

relationships are also very dharmic and compassionate. Jupiter

in teh 10th

again shows the preaching spirit of the institution inferited

from

parampara. Rahu in the 12th in it's own house indicates the iherited

danger

of prakrita-sahajiya (materialistic sentimental devotion) on

the one hand

and misuse of yukta-vairajya (using material things in relation

to the

service of the Lord) for one's personal sense gratification.

kindest regards,

Yasomatinandana das

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha