Atmakaraka - To Utpal

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Sourav ji,

 

For me, it is so diffucult

> most of the time to

> concentrate on my Ishtam and yet Mother reminds me

> that she is

> standing and waiting for me.

 

Lalitha astotthara satha naamaavali describes Mother

as " Bhavanaa maathra santhushta hridaya " , so even one

minute spent in total communion with Her is enough. I

am sure She understands the tremendous yearning in

your heart, perhaps even better than you yourself can.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

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>

> sohamsa , " Swee Chan "

> <swee@c...> wrote:

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> >

> >

> > Do consider that, like all other grahas, the

> triggering of AK's

> main

> > activity can only happen with the onset of its

> mahadasa. 2 months

> and 10

> > days closed my low grade realization of AK Moon.

> The timings in

> drig dasa

> > has been interesting.

> >

> >

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> > _____

> >

> > sohamsa

> [sohamsa ] On

> Behalf Of

> > Sourav Chowdhury

> > Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:32 PM

> > sohamsa

> > Re: Atmakaraka - To Utpal

> >

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Utpal,

> >

> > Namaskar. My comments below.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> >

>

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> > sohamsa , " utpal pathak "

> <vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sourav,

> > >

> > > You didn't answer my question about Ishta. you

> also didn't

> answer

> > > about what is the significant of Ishta chosen

> from the 12th of

> AK.

> >

> > [sourav]: I have given the answer already. Have

> you read my

> message # 1685

> > in this group ? ! Please do once more.

> >

> > Also read Sanjay-ji's little note in the #13985 in

> the

> Srijagannath

> > Group.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > 1. If you think Ahamkara is the only

> significance of

> Atmakaraka.

> > >

> > > If you go thro' my earlier post on AK, I have

> said that i would

> like

> > > to think AK as Ahamkar Karka.

> >

> > [sourav]: I disagree and I gave reasons for that.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > 4. Parasara clearly said in the Karaka Chapter

> that Atmakaraka

> is

> > > >the king of the horoscope.

> > >

> > > Parshara Says that AK is King & that is very

> Natural because AK

> is

> > > The Basic Root Cause of jeevatma's Bondage and

> with That Bondage

> > > only the other dwait/relative world exists.

> First is the 'I'

> (AK).

> > > If 'I' exists then 'Mine' (MK,DK,PIK,PK,GK,BK)

> automatically

> exists.

> > > hence AK is Rightly the King.

> > >

> >

> > [sourav]: BK doesn't mean to help our

> " Ahamkar-karaka " (as you

> choose to

> > call it). BK shows Guru and it helps the soul to

> shine through.

> Think about

> > the reasons for Creation (as given in the

> Brihadaranyaka Upanishad

> and

> > elsewhere).

> >

> >

> > > > 2. Atmakaraka determines the type of

> experiences Atman desires

> > > >these Maayaavrita Beings (i.e. us) to have.

> When Sun is the AK,

> the

> > > >native will have humbling experiences.

> > >

> > > Here again an intresting point i want to make

> which i missed

> last

> > > time. w.r.t. Sanjayji's article on AK, it is

> written that if SUN

> is

> > > AK, The person Needs to Shed his Ego (feeling of

> Pride), If Mars

> is

> > > AK, then Native needs to be Calm and try to

> overcome

> anger/Agression

> > > etc.. to progress spiritually.

> >

> > [sourav]: Yes Sanjay-ji is right. If the

> astrologer sees that the

> AK is

> > going to give humbling experiences, then he deems

> it nec! essary

> to warn the

> > native so that he is prepares his mind of be

> humble and face lesser

> > consequences. I hope you see this Utpal, the

> Ahamkara is not the

> whole of AK

> > concept, AK is representing soul's working behind

> the evil of

> Ahamkara. The

> > Ahamkara Concept comes in to explain the

> Atmakaraka concept better.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Now there is an answer in this. Because Sun is

> AK, it indicates

> that

> > > the native is full of Pride The native Should

> Learn to be Humble

> it

> > > means that the Characteristics shown by AK

> should be shed and by

> > > doing this gradually one is losing the identity.

> That is why

> Ishta's

> > > role is of destruction of AK's negative traits.

> > >

> >

>

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