Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal chandan486 pisze: ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya|| Dear All, Namaste ... Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when to use Varshaphal ? What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? thanks and humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Rafal ji, Kindly guide regarding the following: if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line with natal position or as per TP? like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or 12 akshara mantra? with regards , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya|| > > > > Dear All, > > Namaste ... > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Vikas, Namaskar Tithi pravesha will tell you how the dosha or saapa is forming the events for you in the year so I was taught to go back to Rasi when it comes to changing the situation of life with upayas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal vikas pisze: Rafal ji, Kindly guide regarding the following: if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line with natal position or as per TP? like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or 12 akshara mantra? with regards , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya|| > > > > Dear All, > > Namaste ... > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > ------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dear Rafal ji, Thanks for the help. with endless regards vikas , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Vikas, Namaskar > > Tithi pravesha will tell you how the dosha or saapa is forming the > events for you in the year so I was taught to go back to Rasi when it > comes to changing the situation of life with upayas. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > vikas pisze: > > > > Rafal ji, > > Kindly guide regarding the following: > > if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line > > with natal position or as per TP? > > like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP > > mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or > > 12 akshara mantra? > > with regards > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > > > > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and > > karmayoga. > > > > > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > > > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > > > > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in > > tithi > > > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate > > results. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya|| > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Namaste ... > > > > > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts > > and when > > > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different > > results ? > > > > > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly > > results ? > > > > > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: > > 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dear Rafal So remedies should not be based on indication of TP Chart? Only on Rasi chart? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 10/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Annual Tithi Pravesha VS Varshaphal ? Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 1:08 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Vikas, NamaskarTithi pravesha will tell you how the dosha or saapa is forming the events for you in the year so I was taught to go back to Rasi when it comes to changing the situation of life with upayas.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comvikas pisze: Rafal ji,Kindly guide regarding the following:if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line with natal position or as per TP?like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or 12 akshara mantra?with regards, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga.> > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well.> > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > chandan486 pisze:> >> > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya| |> >> > Dear All,> > Namaste ...> >> > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when> > to use Varshaphal ?> >> > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ?> >> > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ?> >> > thanks and humble regards,> > Chandan S Sabarwal.> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www..avg. com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya|| > > > > Dear All, > > Namaste ... > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dear Rafal, Namaste . Well , the point you made about Surya Pravesha showing resources and circumstances whilst the ATP shows the blessings / curses being carried forward in the comming year , makes good sense however , while calculating ATP for my chart , JHora , takes purnima tithi in Kartika month , while im born in Awasyuja month (the one prior to kartika )... should it be calculated on the tithi in the month tht i was born ? like it is for varshphal ? regards, chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya|| > > > > Dear All, > > Namaste ... > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar You can use prashna to confirm and muhurta to have good phala from this. Remedies are based on Rasi, Drekkana and Navamsa for the triple structure of the karma (opportunity-karma-bhagya) and Varga for specific areas. Even if Varga has dosha then the overall influence will be seen by taking the same planet and judging in it rasi. For example 8H in D10 shows the end of rajayoga so what if there is ninth lord from rasi chart and you perscribe this gem to this person? Through prashna there is method to have direct advice from God therefore the strenght of the prediction is based finally on sadhana as the prashna is given by God because of this condition. Otherwise due to free will person can choose many layers in the chart which you can omit due to tamas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal So remedies should not be based on indication of TP Chart? Only on Rasi chart? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Wed, 10/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Annual Tithi Pravesha VS Varshaphal ? Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 1:08 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Vikas, Namaskar Tithi pravesha will tell you how the dosha or saapa is forming the events for you in the year so I was taught to go back to Rasi when it comes to changing the situation of life with upayas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com vikas pisze: Rafal ji, Kindly guide regarding the following: if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line with natal position or as per TP? like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or 12 akshara mantra? with regards , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya| | > > > > Dear All, > > Namaste ... > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www..avg. com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release 2008-12-09 16:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dear Rafal I was asking if we can use remedies based on ONLY TP chart. Or we should only use remedies based on prasna chart or main rasi chart? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 10/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Annual Tithi Pravesha VS Varshaphal ? Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 3:48 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Rajarishi, NamaskarYou can use prashna to confirm and muhurta to have good phala from this. Remedies are based on Rasi, Drekkana and Navamsa for the triple structure of the karma (opportunity- karma-bhagya) and Varga for specific areas. Even if Varga has dosha then the overall influence will be seen by taking the same planet and judging in it rasi. For example 8H in D10 shows the end of rajayoga so what if there is ninth lord from rasi chart and you perscribe this gem to this person? Through prashna there is method to have direct advice from God therefore the strenght of the prediction is based finally on sadhana as the prashna is given by God because of this condition. Otherwise due to free will person can choose many layers in the chart which you can omit due to tamas.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal So remedies should not be based on indication of TP Chart? Only on Rasi chart? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 10/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Annual Tithi Pravesha VS Varshaphal ?Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 1:08 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Vikas, NamaskarTithi pravesha will tell you how the dosha or saapa is forming the events for you in the year so I was taught to go back to Rasi when it comes to changing the situation of life with upayas.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comvikas pisze: Rafal ji,Kindly guide regarding the following:if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line with natal position or as per TP?like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or 12 akshara mantra?with regards, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga.> > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well.> > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > chandan486 pisze:> >> > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya| |> >> > Dear All,> > Namaste ...> >> > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when> > to use Varshaphal ?> >> > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ?> >> > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ?> >> > thanks and humble regards,> > Chandan S Sabarwal.> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www... avg. com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release 2008-12-09 16:53 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar Of course we cant, I have wrote it and much more. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I was asking if we can use remedies based on ONLY TP chart. Or we should only use remedies based on prasna chart or main rasi chart? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Wed, 10/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Annual Tithi Pravesha VS Varshaphal ? Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 3:48 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar You can use prashna to confirm and muhurta to have good phala from this. Remedies are based on Rasi, Drekkana and Navamsa for the triple structure of the karma (opportunity- karma-bhagya) and Varga for specific areas. Even if Varga has dosha then the overall influence will be seen by taking the same planet and judging in it rasi. For example 8H in D10 shows the end of rajayoga so what if there is ninth lord from rasi chart and you perscribe this gem to this person? Through prashna there is method to have direct advice from God therefore the strenght of the prediction is based finally on sadhana as the prashna is given by God because of this condition. Otherwise due to free will person can choose many layers in the chart which you can omit due to tamas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal So remedies should not be based on indication of TP Chart? Only on Rasi chart? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Wed, 10/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Annual Tithi Pravesha VS Varshaphal ? Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 1:08 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Vikas, Namaskar Tithi pravesha will tell you how the dosha or saapa is forming the events for you in the year so I was taught to go back to Rasi when it comes to changing the situation of life with upayas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com vikas pisze: Rafal ji, Kindly guide regarding the following: if there is curse in TP, the aksharas for mantra should be in line with natal position or as per TP? like a person has mercury in 6th house in natal chart and in TP mercury is in 12th with a curse- should the person do 6 akshara or 12 akshara mantra? with regards , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > Surya pravesha chakra shows the circumstance around you and karmayoga. > > Tithi pravesha chakra shows the blessings you can take in the > forthcoming year. This can also show curses as well. > > I have seen that Sanjayji is using Vimshottari dasa from Moon in tithi > pravesha and I have checked few charts and get extremelly accurate results. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya| | > > > > Dear All, > > Namaste ... > > > > Could some body please explain when exactly to use ATP Charts and when > > to use Varshaphal ? > > > > What is to be followed if ATP and Varshaphal show different results ? > > > > and why the need for 2 charts when both of them show yearly results ? > > > > thanks and humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www... avg. com > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release 2008-12-09 09:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release 2008-12-09 16:53 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release 2008-12-09 16:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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