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Namaskaar AllI thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish to give my special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period, though he was a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the period right, I think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods when one can have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to the native, but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious planets either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

The answer is as follows:The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-28th night. She was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body temperature which was quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was later found to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of malaria. Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and form microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of oxygen) in capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract, kidneys, lungs, and other organs. She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother passed away 14 days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi had a joint epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother was published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India. If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within a single day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She alternated between recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came true, when she developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells stick to place where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and remained so till she passed away. Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke followed by two heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the central zone of the brain was severely damaged. The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there was not an accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except he could have asked for a blood test in the first two days itself. Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on how Lord can remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.Thanks and RegardsBharat

On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology wrote:

Namaskaar AllHere is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note the birth details:Female14 November 197802:38 Hrs, New DelhiShe passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to attempt the puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and hopefully the prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death occured. You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, and if possible, give the reasons for her death. Three important things:1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away.2. She has a surviving elder sister.3. It was a sudden death. I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not entertain any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th 2006. Thanks and RegardsBharat

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Dear Group,

 

I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the resply from the

gentleman who posted the result.

I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next mail.

 

Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death happens in

highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To select the proper date,

take the next 2 stongest power planets for 8th house for narrowing the event

down.

 

I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather justify events

once the event is known. Even a chart on death was given to test the same.

 

Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught by Krushnaji

in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some events of past were known.

 

I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I think this event

can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly giving the power.

 

So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching me KAS with

patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u Krushnaji and Pranams.

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

--- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

wrote:

 

Namaskaar All

 

I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish to give

my

special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period, though he

was

a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the period right,

I

think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

 

To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods when one

can

have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to the

native,

but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious planets

either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

 

The answer is as follows:

The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-28th night.

She

was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body temperature which

was

quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was later

found

to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

malaria.

Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and form

microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of oxygen) in

capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

kidneys,

lungs, and other organs.

 

She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother passed away

14

days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi had a

joint

epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother was

published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

 

If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within a

single

day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She alternated

between

recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came true, when

she

developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells stick to

place

where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and remained

so

till she passed away.

 

Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke followed by

two

heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the central

zone of

the brain was severely damaged.

 

The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there was not

an

accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except he could

have

asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

 

Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on how Lord

can

remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology wrote:

>

> Namaskaar All

>

> Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note the

birth

> details:

>

> Female

> 14 November 1978

> 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

>

> She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to attempt

the

> puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and hopefully

the

> prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death

occured.

> You could also specify a period. Please give astrological reasons, and

if

> possible, give the reasons for her death.

>

> Three important things:

> 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away.

> 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> 3. It was a sudden death.

>

> I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

entertain

> any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on Feb 27th

2006.

>

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ramesh,

I do not have the chart in front of me but from Memory Both Su and

Ve were in 2nd house.

Ve aspects 8th house so itself cant give result its SD will give.

Sun is in 2nd house so it may give accident and its linked to 3rd

lord so in its antra it may give death. Check if Sun is SD to 3rd

lord. Means its MD will have flavour of accident and death.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and list members, Namaskar,

> While analysing this puzzle I want to know few things. This

puzzle was given with periods as death happened between 1990 to 2000

year. During these period native had to pass through Venus, Sun and

Moon mahadasa. Among these three planets Venus and Sun is in 2nd

house and Moon is in 8th house of B.Moon is strong with 5 bindus in

house 8 whereas Sun is with 2 bindus and Venus is with 4 bindus in

2nd house.Venus is neutral and Sun is weak for 2nd house. Ma is the

karaka and Su is LoC.

> In WS, the planets in 8th house are Su=15, Mo=17, Ma=4, Me=12,

Ju=7, Ve=9 and Sa=28.Therefore Su, Mo and Ve is involved for 8th

house of death. In navamsa planet Ju also joined the race. Out of

these four planets Su is a malefic planet because he has 2 bindus.

> I want to know how and why did you select the Su MD lord out of

other planets

> for giving death. Sun has 15 points and Moon has 17 points in WS

for 8th house.

> I shall be very happy if you give the suitable reasons for

selecting the Sun Md lord. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the

resply from the gentleman who posted the result.

> I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next

mail.

>

> Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death

happens in highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To

select the proper date, take the next 2 stongest power planets for

8th house for narrowing the event down.

>

> I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather

justify events once the event is known. Even a chart on death was

given to test the same.

>

> Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught

by Krushnaji in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some

events of past were known.

>

> I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I

think this event can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly

giving the power.

>

> So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching

me KAS with patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u

Krushnaji and Pranams.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> --- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> wrote:

>

> Namaskaar All

>

> I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish

to give

> my

> special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period,

though he

> was

> a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the period

right,

> I

> think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

>

> To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods

when one

> can

> have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to the

> native,

> but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious

planets

> either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

>

> The answer is as follows:

> The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-28th

night.

> She

> was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body temperature

which

> was

> quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was

later

> found

> to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

> malaria.

> Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and form

> microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of

oxygen) in

> capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

> kidneys,

> lungs, and other organs.

>

> She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother passed

away

> 14

> days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi

had a

> joint

> epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother was

> published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

>

> If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within a

> single

> day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She alternated

> between

> recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came

true, when

> she

> developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells

stick to

> place

> where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and

remained

> so

> till she passed away.

>

> Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke followed

by

> two

> heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the

central

> zone of

> the brain was severely damaged.

>

> The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there was

not

> an

> accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except he

could

> have

> asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

>

> Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on

how Lord

> can

> remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note

the

> birth

> > details:

> >

> > Female

> > 14 November 1978

> > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

> >

> > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to

attempt

> the

> > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and

hopefully

> the

> > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death

> occured.

> > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological

reasons, and

> if

> > possible, give the reasons for her death.

> >

> > Three important things:

> > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away.

> > 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> > 3. It was a sudden death.

> >

> > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

> entertain

> > any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on

Feb 27th

> 2006.

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

>

>

 

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Dear Ash, Namaskar,

Sorry to say that I am not fullu convinced with your explanations in respect

of selecting Sun as MD lord for the event.

See lagna is Kanya with Rahu, 2H-Venus and Sun, 3H- Mars and Mer, 7H-

Ketu,8H-Mo, 11H- Ju and 12H- Sat.

Navamsa lagna is Cp with Mer and Rahu,3H-Ven®, 6H-Sun ,7H-Ketu 9H-Mo and Sat

and 11H- Mars and Ju.

You said Venus aspects house 8 so itself can't give result so its SD will

give.Sun also is in second house and aspects 8th house so this planet also will

not give result but its SD will give.Sun is also SD to Mer and Jup.Mer is in 3rd

house.Therefore Me should be as Md lord and he should give karkatwa of 8th

house.Me is with Mars in third house. Me has 5 bindus, Mars has 3 bindus and Sun

has 2 bindus. Out of these three Me point is > 4.Me has 8 points in 3H and 12

points in 8H in the WS.Whereas Sun and Me both has 10 points for 2H in WS.

Guru Shri Krushna Ji in his notebook states that " House A shows the karkatwa

or the responding planet. The house that indicates having the karkatwa for any

event also indicates the end of that particular thing "

As per this statement Ma and Me is in third house so will give the karakatwa

of 8th house because these planets will indicate the end of native. Since Sun is

SD to Mer but Sun is in 2nd house and aspects 8th house it cannot give the

result but its SD will give and thus Me with 12 points in WS for 8th house

should show the karkatwa of 8th house. Mars can not show because it has only 4

points in the WS for the 8th house..Of course Sun is Loc and Sat LoD is in house

C For Sat antars it is clear. He has to give the end in its antara and it has

highest 28 points for 8th house. No doubt about AD lord. But I want to know the

selection of MD lord as Sun.

It will be better if you clear my doubts. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Ramesh,

I do not have the chart in front of me but from Memory Both Su and

Ve were in 2nd house.

Ve aspects 8th house so itself cant give result its SD will give.

Sun is in 2nd house so it may give accident and its linked to 3rd

lord so in its antra it may give death. Check if Sun is SD to 3rd

lord. Means its MD will have flavour of accident and death.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and list members, Namaskar,

> While analysing this puzzle I want to know few things. This

puzzle was given with periods as death happened between 1990 to 2000

year. During these period native had to pass through Venus, Sun and

Moon mahadasa. Among these three planets Venus and Sun is in 2nd

house and Moon is in 8th house of B.Moon is strong with 5 bindus in

house 8 whereas Sun is with 2 bindus and Venus is with 4 bindus in

2nd house.Venus is neutral and Sun is weak for 2nd house. Ma is the

karaka and Su is LoC.

> In WS, the planets in 8th house are Su=15, Mo=17, Ma=4, Me=12,

Ju=7, Ve=9 and Sa=28.Therefore Su, Mo and Ve is involved for 8th

house of death. In navamsa planet Ju also joined the race. Out of

these four planets Su is a malefic planet because he has 2 bindus.

> I want to know how and why did you select the Su MD lord out of

other planets

> for giving death. Sun has 15 points and Moon has 17 points in WS

for 8th house.

> I shall be very happy if you give the suitable reasons for

selecting the Sun Md lord. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the

resply from the gentleman who posted the result.

> I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next

mail.

>

> Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death

happens in highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To

select the proper date, take the next 2 stongest power planets for

8th house for narrowing the event down.

>

> I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather

justify events once the event is known. Even a chart on death was

given to test the same.

>

> Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught

by Krushnaji in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some

events of past were known.

>

> I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I

think this event can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly

giving the power.

>

> So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching

me KAS with patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u

Krushnaji and Pranams.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> --- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> wrote:

>

> Namaskaar All

>

> I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish

to give

> my

> special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period,

though he

> was

> a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the period

right,

> I

> think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

>

> To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods

when one

> can

> have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to the

> native,

> but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious

planets

> either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

>

> The answer is as follows:

> The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-28th

night.

> She

> was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body temperature

which

> was

> quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was

later

> found

> to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

> malaria.

> Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and form

> microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of

oxygen) in

> capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

> kidneys,

> lungs, and other organs.

>

> She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother passed

away

> 14

> days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi

had a

> joint

> epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother was

> published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

>

> If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within a

> single

> day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She alternated

> between

> recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came

true, when

> she

> developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells

stick to

> place

> where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and

remained

> so

> till she passed away.

>

> Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke followed

by

> two

> heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the

central

> zone of

> the brain was severely damaged.

>

> The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there was

not

> an

> accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except he

could

> have

> asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

>

> Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on

how Lord

> can

> remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note

the

> birth

> > details:

> >

> > Female

> > 14 November 1978

> > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

> >

> > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to

attempt

> the

> > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and

hopefully

> the

> > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death

> occured.

> > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological

reasons, and

> if

> > possible, give the reasons for her death.

> >

> > Three important things:

> > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away.

> > 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> > 3. It was a sudden death.

> >

> > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

> entertain

> > any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on

Feb 27th

> 2006.

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

>

>

 

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Dear Ramesh,

Please read the lessons on basics. If a planet aspects primary significator

houses then its SD will give result and this you have said properly. Now where

is it given that when selecting SD we are to consider its aspect?

 

If u are not convinced about MD, one thing is that its not my job to convince

u of MD or of KAS. I am just another student sharing my little knowledge.

 

If you have a better explanation the please share it clearly and then I will

be glad to apply your logic in different charts and come to my own conclusion.

 

I have shared with u in no unclear terms my approach. If u understand it and

accept it its ok , and if u dont also its ok.

 

The best solution to such is that u undrestand the technique and solve 100's

of charts and come to your own conclusoin and share your findings with list that

way we all can learn.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Ash, Namaskar,

Sorry to say that I am not fullu convinced with your explanations in respect of

selecting Sun as MD lord for the event.

See lagna is Kanya with Rahu, 2H-Venus and Sun, 3H- Mars and Mer, 7H-

Ketu,8H-Mo, 11H- Ju and 12H- Sat.

Navamsa lagna is Cp with Mer and Rahu,3H-Ven®, 6H-Sun ,7H-Ketu 9H-Mo and Sat

and 11H- Mars and Ju.

You said Venus aspects house 8 so itself can't give result so its SD will

give.Sun also is in second house and aspects 8th house so this planet also will

not give result but its SD will give.Sun is also SD to Mer and Jup.Mer is in 3rd

house.Therefore Me should be as Md lord and he should give karkatwa of 8th

house.Me is with Mars in third house. Me has 5 bindus, Mars has 3 bindus and Sun

has 2 bindus. Out of these three Me point is > 4.Me has 8 points in 3H and 12

points in 8H in the WS.Whereas Sun and Me both has 10 points for 2H in WS.

Guru Shri Krushna Ji in his notebook states that " House A shows the karkatwa or

the responding planet. The house that indicates having the karkatwa for any

event also indicates the end of that particular thing "

As per this statement Ma and Me is in third house so will give the karakatwa of

8th house because these planets will indicate the end of native. Since Sun is SD

to Mer but Sun is in 2nd house and aspects 8th house it cannot give the result

but its SD will give and thus Me with 12 points in WS for 8th house should show

the karkatwa of 8th house. Mars can not show because it has only 4 points in the

WS for the 8th house..Of course Sun is Loc and Sat LoD is in house C For Sat

antars it is clear. He has to give the end in its antara and it has highest 28

points for 8th house. No doubt about AD lord. But I want to know the selection

of MD lord as Sun.

It will be better if you clear my doubts. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Ramesh,

I do not have the chart in front of me but from Memory Both Su and

Ve were in 2nd house.

Ve aspects 8th house so itself cant give result its SD will give.

Sun is in 2nd house so it may give accident and its linked to 3rd

lord so in its antra it may give death. Check if Sun is SD to 3rd

lord. Means its MD will have flavour of accident and death.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, ramesh mishra

wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and list members, Namaskar,

> While analysing this puzzle I want to know few things. This

puzzle was given with periods as death happened between 1990 to 2000

year. During these period native had to pass through Venus, Sun and

Moon mahadasa. Among these three planets Venus and Sun is in 2nd

house and Moon is in 8th house of B.Moon is strong with 5 bindus in

house 8 whereas Sun is with 2 bindus and Venus is with 4 bindus in

2nd house.Venus is neutral and Sun is weak for 2nd house. Ma is the

karaka and Su is LoC.

> In WS, the planets in 8th house are Su=15, Mo=17, Ma=4, Me=12,

Ju=7, Ve=9 and Sa=28.Therefore Su, Mo and Ve is involved for 8th

house of death. In navamsa planet Ju also joined the race. Out of

these four planets Su is a malefic planet because he has 2 bindus.

> I want to know how and why did you select the Su MD lord out of

other planets

> for giving death. Sun has 15 points and Moon has 17 points in WS

for 8th house.

> I shall be very happy if you give the suitable reasons for

selecting the Sun Md lord. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Ash wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the

resply from the gentleman who posted the result.

> I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next

mail.

>

> Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death

happens in highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To

select the proper date, take the next 2 stongest power planets for

8th house for narrowing the event down.

>

> I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather

justify events once the event is known. Even a chart on death was

given to test the same.

>

> Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught

by Krushnaji in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some

events of past were known.

>

> I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I

think this event can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly

giving the power.

>

> So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching

me KAS with patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u

Krushnaji and Pranams.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> ashsam73 wrote:

>

> --- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> wrote:

>

> Namaskaar All

>

> I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish

to give

> my

> special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period,

though he

> was

> a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the period

right,

> I

> think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

>

> To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods

when one

> can

> have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to the

> native,

> but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious

planets

> either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

>

> The answer is as follows:

> The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-28th

night.

> She

> was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body temperature

which

> was

> quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was

later

> found

> to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

> malaria.

> Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and form

> microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of

oxygen) in

> capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

> kidneys,

> lungs, and other organs.

>

> She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother passed

away

> 14

> days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi

had a

> joint

> epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother was

> published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

>

> If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within a

> single

> day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She alternated

> between

> recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came

true, when

> she

> developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells

stick to

> place

> where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and

remained

> so

> till she passed away.

>

> Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke followed

by

> two

> heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the

central

> zone of

> the brain was severely damaged.

>

> The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there was

not

> an

> accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except he

could

> have

> asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

>

> Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on

how Lord

> can

> remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note

the

> birth

> > details:

> >

> > Female

> > 14 November 1978

> > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

> >

> > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to

attempt

> the

> > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and

hopefully

> the

> > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death

> occured.

> > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological

reasons, and

> if

> > possible, give the reasons for her death.

> >

> > Three important things:

> > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away.

> > 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> > 3. It was a sudden death.

> >

> > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

> entertain

> > any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on

Feb 27th

> 2006.

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

>

>

 

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Dear Ash,

I think you have taken it another way. Or you could not follow me. I mean to

say that Sun is SD to Venus. Sun being SD to Venus also aspets its pimary

significator houses as Venus does. Am I correct or not ? You mean aspect of SD

to main significator houe should not be considered. My problem is that Sun is

lord of one significator house and aspecting another significator house. Can

this planet be considered as MD lord for the eent ? I do not know whether I

could make you understand my doubts.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Ramesh,

Please read the lessons on basics. If a planet aspects primary significator

houses then its SD will give result and this you have said properly. Now where

is it given that when selecting SD we are to consider its aspect?

 

If u are not convinced about MD, one thing is that its not my job to convince

u of MD or of KAS. I am just another student sharing my little knowledge.

 

If you have a better explanation the please share it clearly and then I will

be glad to apply your logic in different charts and come to my own conclusion.

 

I have shared with u in no unclear terms my approach. If u understand it and

accept it its ok , and if u dont also its ok.

 

The best solution to such is that u undrestand the technique and solve 100's

of charts and come to your own conclusoin and share your findings with list that

way we all can learn.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Ash, Namaskar,

Sorry to say that I am not fullu convinced with your explanations in respect of

selecting Sun as MD lord for the event.

See lagna is Kanya with Rahu, 2H-Venus and Sun, 3H- Mars and Mer, 7H-

Ketu,8H-Mo, 11H- Ju and 12H- Sat.

Navamsa lagna is Cp with Mer and Rahu,3H-Ven®, 6H-Sun ,7H-Ketu 9H-Mo and Sat

and 11H- Mars and Ju.

You said Venus aspects house 8 so itself can't give result so its SD will

give.Sun also is in second house and aspects 8th house so this planet also will

not give result but its SD will give.Sun is also SD to Mer and Jup.Mer is in 3rd

house.Therefore Me should be as Md lord and he should give karkatwa of 8th

house.Me is with Mars in third house. Me has 5 bindus, Mars has 3 bindus and Sun

has 2 bindus. Out of these three Me point is > 4.Me has 8 points in 3H and 12

points in 8H in the WS.Whereas Sun and Me both has 10 points for 2H in WS.

Guru Shri Krushna Ji in his notebook states that " House A shows the karkatwa or

the responding planet. The house that indicates having the karkatwa for any

event also indicates the end of that particular thing "

As per this statement Ma and Me is in third house so will give the karakatwa of

8th house because these planets will indicate the end of native. Since Sun is SD

to Mer but Sun is in 2nd house and aspects 8th house it cannot give the result

but its SD will give and thus Me with 12 points in WS for 8th house should show

the karkatwa of 8th house. Mars can not show because it has only 4 points in the

WS for the 8th house..Of course Sun is Loc and Sat LoD is in house C For Sat

antars it is clear. He has to give the end in its antara and it has highest 28

points for 8th house. No doubt about AD lord. But I want to know the selection

of MD lord as Sun.

It will be better if you clear my doubts. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Ramesh,

I do not have the chart in front of me but from Memory Both Su and

Ve were in 2nd house.

Ve aspects 8th house so itself cant give result its SD will give.

Sun is in 2nd house so it may give accident and its linked to 3rd

lord so in its antra it may give death. Check if Sun is SD to 3rd

lord. Means its MD will have flavour of accident and death.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, ramesh mishra

wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and list members, Namaskar,

> While analysing this puzzle I want to know few things. This

puzzle was given with periods as death happened between 1990 to 2000

year. During these period native had to pass through Venus, Sun and

Moon mahadasa. Among these three planets Venus and Sun is in 2nd

house and Moon is in 8th house of B.Moon is strong with 5 bindus in

house 8 whereas Sun is with 2 bindus and Venus is with 4 bindus in

2nd house.Venus is neutral and Sun is weak for 2nd house. Ma is the

karaka and Su is LoC.

> In WS, the planets in 8th house are Su=15, Mo=17, Ma=4, Me=12,

Ju=7, Ve=9 and Sa=28.Therefore Su, Mo and Ve is involved for 8th

house of death. In navamsa planet Ju also joined the race. Out of

these four planets Su is a malefic planet because he has 2 bindus.

> I want to know how and why did you select the Su MD lord out of

other planets

> for giving death. Sun has 15 points and Moon has 17 points in WS

for 8th house.

> I shall be very happy if you give the suitable reasons for

selecting the Sun Md lord. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Ash wrote:

> Dear Group,

>

> I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the

resply from the gentleman who posted the result.

> I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next

mail.

>

> Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death

happens in highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To

select the proper date, take the next 2 stongest power planets for

8th house for narrowing the event down.

>

> I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather

justify events once the event is known. Even a chart on death was

given to test the same.

>

> Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught

by Krushnaji in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some

events of past were known.

>

> I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I

think this event can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly

giving the power.

>

> So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching

me KAS with patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u

Krushnaji and Pranams.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> ashsam73 wrote:

>

> --- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> wrote:

>

> Namaskaar All

>

> I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish

to give

> my

> special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period,

though he

> was

> a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the period

right,

> I

> think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

>

> To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods

when one

> can

> have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to the

> native,

> but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious

planets

> either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

>

> The answer is as follows:

> The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-28th

night.

> She

> was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body temperature

which

> was

> quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was

later

> found

> to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

> malaria.

> Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and form

> microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of

oxygen) in

> capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

> kidneys,

> lungs, and other organs.

>

> She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother passed

away

> 14

> days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi

had a

> joint

> epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother was

> published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

>

> If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within a

> single

> day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She alternated

> between

> recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came

true, when

> she

> developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells

stick to

> place

> where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and

remained

> so

> till she passed away.

>

> Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke followed

by

> two

> heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the

central

> zone of

> the brain was severely damaged.

>

> The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there was

not

> an

> accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except he

could

> have

> asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

>

> Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on

how Lord

> can

> remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly note

the

> birth

> > details:

> >

> > Female

> > 14 November 1978

> > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

> >

> > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to

attempt

> the

> > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and

hopefully

> the

> > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the death

> occured.

> > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological

reasons, and

> if

> > possible, give the reasons for her death.

> >

> > Three important things:

> > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed away.

> > 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> > 3. It was a sudden death.

> >

> > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

> entertain

> > any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on

Feb 27th

> 2006.

> >

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

>

>

 

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Dear Ramesh,

Just read the lessons again and slowly and try to grasp the law.

 

Sun is SD to Venus who is 2nd lord so accidents and Sun is placed in

Navamsa of Mercury and Mercury is karak for death here Me is in 3rd

house with 5 bindus.

 

So I had 2 choice Venus MD or Sun MD. Venus MD comes first and it

aspects 8th house.

 

Now study each seperately. Venus is aspecting 8th house so itself

Venus cant give result. Even if it gives its not having relation to

3rd lord means karak for death. Venus is SD to Sun and in navamsa

Venus is SD to Ju.

 

Venus and Shani are in 1:7 disposition in navamsa so Venus here is

not NSD to Shani.

 

So in MD of Venus there might be accident but in no way it can give

Death.

 

Now 3rd lord is Mars and Mercury is a planet placed in 3rd house

with 5 bindus. Mercury is NK for death as well as here its FK as

its in a house with more than 4 bindus.

 

So sun is having some relation to 2nd lord and 3rd lord. Means

death if it happens in Sun MD will have some flavour of Accident and

that may result in Death (as its SD to 2nd lord and a Karak for

death i.e. Me being FK and placed in 3rd with 5 bindus).

 

So by virtue of that I chose Sun MD.

 

Death here was due to Mosquito bite which can be considreed an

accident (SD to Venus 2nd lord and resulting in Death being SD to

Mercury) i.e Sun is SD to Ve and Me and I am talking about Sun MD.

 

Please study the lessons more carefully and the concept of SD.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> I think you have taken it another way. Or you could not follow

me. I mean to say that Sun is SD to Venus. Sun being SD to Venus

also aspets its pimary significator houses as Venus does. Am I

correct or not ? You mean aspect of SD to main significator houe

should not be considered. My problem is that Sun is lord of one

significator house and aspecting another significator house. Can

this planet be considered as MD lord for the eent ? I do not know

whether I could make you understand my doubts.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> Please read the lessons on basics. If a planet aspects primary

significator houses then its SD will give result and this you have

said properly. Now where is it given that when selecting SD we are

to consider its aspect?

>

> If u are not convinced about MD, one thing is that its not my

job to convince u of MD or of KAS. I am just another student

sharing my little knowledge.

>

> If you have a better explanation the please share it clearly and

then I will be glad to apply your logic in different charts and come

to my own conclusion.

>

> I have shared with u in no unclear terms my approach. If u

understand it and accept it its ok , and if u dont also its ok.

>

> The best solution to such is that u undrestand the technique and

solve 100's of charts and come to your own conclusoin and share your

findings with list that way we all can learn.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> Dear Ash, Namaskar,

> Sorry to say that I am not fullu convinced with your explanations

in respect of selecting Sun as MD lord for the event.

> See lagna is Kanya with Rahu, 2H-Venus and Sun, 3H- Mars and Mer,

7H- Ketu,8H-Mo, 11H- Ju and 12H- Sat.

> Navamsa lagna is Cp with Mer and Rahu,3H-Ven®, 6H-Sun ,7H-Ketu

9H-Mo and Sat and 11H- Mars and Ju.

> You said Venus aspects house 8 so itself can't give result so its

SD will give.Sun also is in second house and aspects 8th house so

this planet also will not give result but its SD will give.Sun is

also SD to Mer and Jup.Mer is in 3rd house.Therefore Me should be as

Md lord and he should give karkatwa of 8th house.Me is with Mars in

third house. Me has 5 bindus, Mars has 3 bindus and Sun has 2

bindus. Out of these three Me point is > 4.Me has 8 points in 3H and

12 points in 8H in the WS.Whereas Sun and Me both has 10 points for

2H in WS.

> Guru Shri Krushna Ji in his notebook states that " House A shows

the karkatwa or the responding planet. The house that indicates

having the karkatwa for any event also indicates the end of that

particular thing "

> As per this statement Ma and Me is in third house so will give the

karakatwa of 8th house because these planets will indicate the end

of native. Since Sun is SD to Mer but Sun is in 2nd house and

aspects 8th house it cannot give the result but its SD will give and

thus Me with 12 points in WS for 8th house should show the karkatwa

of 8th house. Mars can not show because it has only 4 points in the

WS for the 8th house..Of course Sun is Loc and Sat LoD is in house C

For Sat antars it is clear. He has to give the end in its antara and

it has highest 28 points for 8th house. No doubt about AD lord. But

I want to know the selection of MD lord as Sun.

> It will be better if you clear my doubts. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> I do not have the chart in front of me but from Memory Both Su and

> Ve were in 2nd house.

> Ve aspects 8th house so itself cant give result its SD will give.

> Sun is in 2nd house so it may give accident and its linked to 3rd

> lord so in its antra it may give death. Check if Sun is SD to 3rd

> lord. Means its MD will have flavour of accident and death.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , ramesh mishra

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash and list members, Namaskar,

> > While analysing this puzzle I want to know few things. This

> puzzle was given with periods as death happened between 1990 to

2000

> year. During these period native had to pass through Venus, Sun

and

> Moon mahadasa. Among these three planets Venus and Sun is in 2nd

> house and Moon is in 8th house of B.Moon is strong with 5 bindus

in

> house 8 whereas Sun is with 2 bindus and Venus is with 4 bindus in

> 2nd house.Venus is neutral and Sun is weak for 2nd house. Ma is

the

> karaka and Su is LoC.

> > In WS, the planets in 8th house are Su=15, Mo=17, Ma=4, Me=12,

> Ju=7, Ve=9 and Sa=28.Therefore Su, Mo and Ve is involved for 8th

> house of death. In navamsa planet Ju also joined the race. Out of

> these four planets Su is a malefic planet because he has 2 bindus.

> > I want to know how and why did you select the Su MD lord out of

> other planets

> > for giving death. Sun has 15 points and Moon has 17 points in WS

> for 8th house.

> > I shall be very happy if you give the suitable reasons for

> selecting the Sun Md lord. Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Ash wrote:

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the

> resply from the gentleman who posted the result.

> > I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next

> mail.

> >

> > Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death

> happens in highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To

> select the proper date, take the next 2 stongest power planets for

> 8th house for narrowing the event down.

> >

> > I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather

> justify events once the event is known. Even a chart on death was

> given to test the same.

> >

> > Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught

> by Krushnaji in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some

> events of past were known.

> >

> > I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I

> think this event can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly

> giving the power.

> >

> > So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching

> me KAS with patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u

> Krushnaji and Pranams.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > --- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish

> to give

> > my

> > special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period,

> though he

> > was

> > a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the

period

> right,

> > I

> > think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

> >

> > To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods

> when one

> > can

> > have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to

the

> > native,

> > but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious

> planets

> > either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

> >

> > The answer is as follows:

> > The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-

28th

> night.

> > She

> > was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body

temperature

> which

> > was

> > quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was

> later

> > found

> > to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

> > malaria.

> > Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and

form

> > microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of

> oxygen) in

> > capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

> > kidneys,

> > lungs, and other organs.

> >

> > She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother

passed

> away

> > 14

> > days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi

> had a

> > joint

> > epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother

was

> > published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

> >

> > If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within

a

> > single

> > day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She

alternated

> > between

> > recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came

> true, when

> > she

> > developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells

> stick to

> > place

> > where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and

> remained

> > so

> > till she passed away.

> >

> > Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke

followed

> by

> > two

> > heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the

> central

> > zone of

> > the brain was severely damaged.

> >

> > The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there

was

> not

> > an

> > accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except

he

> could

> > have

> > asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

> >

> > Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on

> how Lord

> > can

> > remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> > On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskaar All

> > >

> > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly

note

> the

> > birth

> > > details:

> > >

> > > Female

> > > 14 November 1978

> > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

> > >

> > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to

> attempt

> > the

> > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and

> hopefully

> > the

> > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the

death

> > occured.

> > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological

> reasons, and

> > if

> > > possible, give the reasons for her death.

> > >

> > > Three important things:

> > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed

away.

> > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> > > 3. It was a sudden death.

> > >

> > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

> > entertain

> > > any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on

> Feb 27th

> > 2006.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks Ash. That's what I wanted to hear from you. Now my doubt is clear. If you

read my earlier posting I also mentioned something like yours. My doubt was for

selection of Sun MD.which you made it clear now. So please do not misunderstand

me while discussion. I am not that intelligent as you are. I am interested to

understand the subject properly. So thanks once again and close this chapter

now. Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Ramesh,

Just read the lessons again and slowly and try to grasp the law.

 

Sun is SD to Venus who is 2nd lord so accidents and Sun is placed in

Navamsa of Mercury and Mercury is karak for death here Me is in 3rd

house with 5 bindus.

 

So I had 2 choice Venus MD or Sun MD. Venus MD comes first and it

aspects 8th house.

 

Now study each seperately. Venus is aspecting 8th house so itself

Venus cant give result. Even if it gives its not having relation to

3rd lord means karak for death. Venus is SD to Sun and in navamsa

Venus is SD to Ju.

 

Venus and Shani are in 1:7 disposition in navamsa so Venus here is

not NSD to Shani.

 

So in MD of Venus there might be accident but in no way it can give

Death.

 

Now 3rd lord is Mars and Mercury is a planet placed in 3rd house

with 5 bindus. Mercury is NK for death as well as here its FK as

its in a house with more than 4 bindus.

 

So sun is having some relation to 2nd lord and 3rd lord. Means

death if it happens in Sun MD will have some flavour of Accident and

that may result in Death (as its SD to 2nd lord and a Karak for

death i.e. Me being FK and placed in 3rd with 5 bindus).

 

So by virtue of that I chose Sun MD.

 

Death here was due to Mosquito bite which can be considreed an

accident (SD to Venus 2nd lord and resulting in Death being SD to

Mercury) i.e Sun is SD to Ve and Me and I am talking about Sun MD.

 

Please study the lessons more carefully and the concept of SD.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> I think you have taken it another way. Or you could not follow

me. I mean to say that Sun is SD to Venus. Sun being SD to Venus

also aspets its pimary significator houses as Venus does. Am I

correct or not ? You mean aspect of SD to main significator houe

should not be considered. My problem is that Sun is lord of one

significator house and aspecting another significator house. Can

this planet be considered as MD lord for the eent ? I do not know

whether I could make you understand my doubts.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> Please read the lessons on basics. If a planet aspects primary

significator houses then its SD will give result and this you have

said properly. Now where is it given that when selecting SD we are

to consider its aspect?

>

> If u are not convinced about MD, one thing is that its not my

job to convince u of MD or of KAS. I am just another student

sharing my little knowledge.

>

> If you have a better explanation the please share it clearly and

then I will be glad to apply your logic in different charts and come

to my own conclusion.

>

> I have shared with u in no unclear terms my approach. If u

understand it and accept it its ok , and if u dont also its ok.

>

> The best solution to such is that u undrestand the technique and

solve 100's of charts and come to your own conclusoin and share your

findings with list that way we all can learn.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> Dear Ash, Namaskar,

> Sorry to say that I am not fullu convinced with your explanations

in respect of selecting Sun as MD lord for the event.

> See lagna is Kanya with Rahu, 2H-Venus and Sun, 3H- Mars and Mer,

7H- Ketu,8H-Mo, 11H- Ju and 12H- Sat.

> Navamsa lagna is Cp with Mer and Rahu,3H-Ven®, 6H-Sun ,7H-Ketu

9H-Mo and Sat and 11H- Mars and Ju.

> You said Venus aspects house 8 so itself can't give result so its

SD will give.Sun also is in second house and aspects 8th house so

this planet also will not give result but its SD will give.Sun is

also SD to Mer and Jup.Mer is in 3rd house.Therefore Me should be as

Md lord and he should give karkatwa of 8th house.Me is with Mars in

third house. Me has 5 bindus, Mars has 3 bindus and Sun has 2

bindus. Out of these three Me point is > 4.Me has 8 points in 3H and

12 points in 8H in the WS.Whereas Sun and Me both has 10 points for

2H in WS.

> Guru Shri Krushna Ji in his notebook states that " House A shows

the karkatwa or the responding planet. The house that indicates

having the karkatwa for any event also indicates the end of that

particular thing "

> As per this statement Ma and Me is in third house so will give the

karakatwa of 8th house because these planets will indicate the end

of native. Since Sun is SD to Mer but Sun is in 2nd house and

aspects 8th house it cannot give the result but its SD will give and

thus Me with 12 points in WS for 8th house should show the karkatwa

of 8th house. Mars can not show because it has only 4 points in the

WS for the 8th house..Of course Sun is Loc and Sat LoD is in house C

For Sat antars it is clear. He has to give the end in its antara and

it has highest 28 points for 8th house. No doubt about AD lord. But

I want to know the selection of MD lord as Sun.

> It will be better if you clear my doubts. Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> I do not have the chart in front of me but from Memory Both Su and

> Ve were in 2nd house.

> Ve aspects 8th house so itself cant give result its SD will give.

> Sun is in 2nd house so it may give accident and its linked to 3rd

> lord so in its antra it may give death. Check if Sun is SD to 3rd

> lord. Means its MD will have flavour of accident and death.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , ramesh mishra

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash and list members, Namaskar,

> > While analysing this puzzle I want to know few things. This

> puzzle was given with periods as death happened between 1990 to

2000

> year. During these period native had to pass through Venus, Sun

and

> Moon mahadasa. Among these three planets Venus and Sun is in 2nd

> house and Moon is in 8th house of B.Moon is strong with 5 bindus

in

> house 8 whereas Sun is with 2 bindus and Venus is with 4 bindus in

> 2nd house.Venus is neutral and Sun is weak for 2nd house. Ma is

the

> karaka and Su is LoC.

> > In WS, the planets in 8th house are Su=15, Mo=17, Ma=4, Me=12,

> Ju=7, Ve=9 and Sa=28.Therefore Su, Mo and Ve is involved for 8th

> house of death. In navamsa planet Ju also joined the race. Out of

> these four planets Su is a malefic planet because he has 2 bindus.

> > I want to know how and why did you select the Su MD lord out of

> other planets

> > for giving death. Sun has 15 points and Moon has 17 points in WS

> for 8th house.

> > I shall be very happy if you give the suitable reasons for

> selecting the Sun Md lord. Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Ash wrote:

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I had attempted a blind chart on another list and here is the

> resply from the gentleman who posted the result.

> > I shall post the analysis that I had done and sent it in my next

> mail.

> >

> > Those who are interested, can apply KAS. Our law is that death

> happens in highest significator for 8th house or LoD or LoE. To

> select the proper date, take the next 2 stongest power planets for

> 8th house for narrowing the event down.

> >

> > I think someone had told that its easy to give events or rather

> justify events once the event is known. Even a chart on death was

> given to test the same.

> >

> > Here I solved the chart blindly, using our principals as taught

> by Krushnaji in his lessons. Yes, I took this chart up as some

> events of past were known.

> >

> > I think if this chart were to come to those studying KAS, I

> think this event can be found easily using WS as WS is clearly

> giving the power.

> >

> > So all credit goes to Krushnaji for spending time and teaching

> me KAS with patience and answering my gazzillion querries. Thank u

> Krushnaji and Pranams.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > --- " Bharat Hindu Astrology "

> > wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar All

> >

> > I thank everyone heartily for taking part in this puzzle. I wish

> to give

> > my

> > special thanks to Sri Ash, who predicted correctly the period,

> though he

> > was

> > a bit off with the date. As the puzzle was to just get the

period

> right,

> > I

> > think we can say that he solved this puzzle correctly.

> >

> > To all others, it is nice to see that there are so many periods

> when one

> > can

> > have ill health, accident, etc. which may seem as dangerous to

the

> > native,

> > but there must have been divine interventions through auspicious

> planets

> > either in dasha or in transit that saved her earlier.

> >

> > The answer is as follows:

> > The native died on September 28th, 1996 at around 3 AM on 27-

28th

> night.

> > She

> > was admitted to hospital after a sudden surge of body

temperature

> which

> > was

> > quite abnormal. She had fever for a total of 2-3 days. She was

> later

> > found

> > to be affected by Falciparum malaria: The most dangerous type of

> > malaria.

> > Red blood cells infected with the parasite tend to sludge and

form

> > microinfarctions (small areas of dead tissue due to lack of

> oxygen) in

> > capillaries in the brain, liver, adrenal gland, intestinal tract,

> > kidneys,

> > lungs, and other organs.

> >

> > She died of severe damage to almost all organs. Her mother

passed

> away

> > 14

> > days later due to the same disease. This was the time when Delhi

> had a

> > joint

> > epidemic of Dengue fever and Malaria. The picture of the mother

was

> > published in India today - a weekly popular magazine in India.

> >

> > If it may help astrologers - though we had lost my cousin within

a

> > single

> > day, we were hopeful that her mother would survive. She

alternated

> > between

> > recovery and poor health for a few days. Our worst fears came

> true, when

> > she

> > developed severe breathing problems. The dead Red Blood Cells

> stick to

> > place

> > where blood gets oxygen. She was, then, put on a ventilator and

> remained

> > so

> > till she passed away.

> >

> > Due to severe lack of oxygen, she suffered a brain stroke

followed

> by

> > two

> > heart attacks. There was nothing the doctors could do as the

> central

> > zone of

> > the brain was severely damaged.

> >

> > The girl's elder sister was not involved in anything and there

was

> not

> > an

> > accident. Father had not much to do with this incident, except

he

> could

> > have

> > asked for a blood test in the first two days itself.

> >

> > Let this be a case study for those who attempted the puzzle, on

> how Lord

> > can

> > remove your little self from one body and place it a new one.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> > On 2/20/06, Bharat Hindu Astrology hinduastrology@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskaar All

> > >

> > > Here is a chart of my distant cousin who is no more. Kindly

note

> the

> > birth

> > > details:

> > >

> > > Female

> > > 14 November 1978

> > > 02:38 Hrs, New Delhi

> > >

> > > She passed away between 1990-2000. Those jyotishas who want to

> attempt

> > the

> > > puzzle, only have to find out the Mahadasha, Anterdasha and

> hopefully

> > the

> > > prayantardasha (we can analyse this later too) in which the

death

> > occured.

> > > You could also specify a period. Please give astrological

> reasons, and

> > if

> > > possible, give the reasons for her death.

> > >

> > > Three important things:

> > > 1. Her mother passed away exactly 14 days after she passed

away.

> > > 2. She has a surviving elder sister.

> > > 3. It was a sudden death.

> > >

> > > I welcome everyone to try and attempt this puzzle. I will not

> > entertain

> > > any private emails in this regard and will give the answer on

> Feb 27th

> > 2006.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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