Re[2]: Moolatrikona

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Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha,

Dear Laksmi

> Please don't " ji " me, because I have learnt from you

> and am your sishya in astro-knowledge and experience.

Oh, its a sign of respect, not only for your knowledge, but I do

personally like you very much.

 

> Now, coming to the topic on hand, I agree with you

> that Dhanus is a saattwik sign, (i better agree,

> seeing that its our common ascendant:--))) but still

> it is a fire sign and fire is rajo guni. Dhanus

> represents battle grounds, military camps etc and

> that's hardly saattwik, isn't it? Infact this

> description makes Dhanus sound more like a house of

> Mars, the war lord, than that of jupiter!

I agree with the fact that Dhanush is a fiery sign, but it is the

highest form of Agni tatva. There are two aspects of Agni tatva, one

is fire and another is light. It has not to do with the war in real

sense, but it is the war for dharma, as beautifully explained in

Bhagavad Gita, where Kurukshetra is the field -Kshetra of Karma-Kuru.

Thus, dhanu indicates the moral fight for dharma, where the main

massage tells us that we cannot stay away from this karma, but perform

the right activities. And what is the right activity? That is why

Arjuna is confused. However, Shri Krishna tells him: " Nistrai Guna

bhava Arjuna " - Be without the three gunas, transcend this field of

karma- Be your SELF- ATMAN, that is the true message. So I would not

assign sign dhanu with war in this low sense.

 

 

> Dhanus is a sign where jupiter is in " avarohana " ,

> i.e., heading towards debility, while mars is in

> " aarohana " , heading towards exaltation.

Very Good point indeed. Mars in exaltation is MahaPurusha, however In

dhanu, Mars is just to enter exaltation Uchchbhilashi,indicating that

his attitude is calm, before the battle, a true warriour has to be

perfectly calm and composed, like a steel, not a raw iron. For that

reason Mars rules Sama Veda, where Sama indicates balance, composed.

After performing his dharma, a Guru becomes weak, a new cycle is

beginning, that is why fiery signs indicate Sat Yuga.

 

 

> Dhanus is not

> a pure sattwik / passive sign like pisces, it is a

> kshatriya / martian sign..Parasara says so. Dhanus is

> a sign of attachment to " action " based on one's

> " dharma " . And, all action / attachment to action is

> rajasik in nature, according to Sri Krishna.I know

> that you will not think that I am showing off when I

> quote from scriptures...you know the scriptures and me

> too well to think that!

No, On the contrary, I appriciate that, I know you well, to think that

you are showing off. No please, go on. I personally beleive that that

dhanu does not show attachment to action and that Shri Krishna does

not advise that. He advises: " Nistrai Guna Bhava ARjuna " be without

tri gunas. I personally beleiva that the more we concur rajas, the

more satva will come. Dhanu is natural 9th house of the Kaal Purush,

and is the place of Isha -God, It is the guiding principle of our

birth. I cannot assign rajas guna to it. Actually, Chara signs are

rajas, stira signs are tamas, and dvishabhava sign (dhanu is here) are

Satva as far as creation is concerned.

 

 

 

> The term " Vaiswanara " refers to the cosmic fire as

> also the digestive fire. The manipura chakra lording

> digestive fire is ruled by Mars. It can also be

> recalled that the creation of Brahma started from this

> point...hence this is the begining of creation.

> Infact, the first veedhi of Vaiswanara nakshatra

> mandala is called " aja " meaning " unborn " as well as

> " goat " (mesha?). All this is taken from Vishnupurana

> and I will give the link below, so if you have missed

> it earlier, you can go through it now. I would

> appreciate your comments on it very much.

 

> sohamsa/message/28

 

I hate myself for not knowing Hindi, othervise I would take a leave

from here and lock myself into one of yours huge libraries and will

not leave it for months... I will have to go through it, so we can

discuss it.

 

> And, Lord krishna says that

 

> Aham vaiswanarobhutwa praninam dehamasritah|

 

> That's the first devolvement of God into creation.

> and, i hope you are able to see the diagram drawn by

> me, because Sourav ji had some difficulty there.

> Infact, what you see there is an approximation of

> " yoni " ...the seat of creation.

I will be back after I take more insight into your paperwork from

Mumbai. You did a great job I remember. So far, I think that you are

right in seing the Agni in Dhanu. But I beleive that Agni you see

refers to light not to fire itself.

Lot of regards and thanks for this nice thread,

Zoran

 

 

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

[Guest guest]

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Zoran,

 

Namaste and thank you for your lovely lovely mail. I

know that you'd consider whatever i have put forth

with an open mind.

 

Lastly, I want to add one last line...the most

essential & highest form of Mother, as Jagadyoni,

Jagan maata is expressed thus...

 

yonimudraa, trikhandesi, trigunaamba, trikonagaa...

 

The Lalitha Sahasranaamam almost ends on a cescendo

here, and what follows are only a few lines... the

praise of Mother. Thanks to Sourav and all of you, I

have seen it yesterday. I have tried to show it to all

of you too, but because of my own inadequacies,

perhaps, I have failed to do so.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

--- Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa wrote:

 

> Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha,

> Dear Laksmi

> > Please don't " ji " me, because I have learnt from

> you

> > and am your sishya in astro-knowledge and

> experience.

> Oh, its a sign of respect, not only for your

> knowledge, but I do

> personally like you very much.

>

> > Now, coming to the topic on hand, I agree with you

> > that Dhanus is a saattwik sign, (i better agree,

> > seeing that its our common ascendant:--))) but

> still

> > it is a fire sign and fire is rajo guni. Dhanus

> > represents battle grounds, military camps etc and

> > that's hardly saattwik, isn't it? Infact this

> > description makes Dhanus sound more like a house

> of

> > Mars, the war lord, than that of jupiter!

> I agree with the fact that Dhanush is a fiery sign,

> but it is the

> highest form of Agni tatva. There are two aspects of

> Agni tatva, one

> is fire and another is light. It has not to do with

> the war in real

> sense, but it is the war for dharma, as beautifully

> explained in

> Bhagavad Gita, where Kurukshetra is the field

> -Kshetra of Karma-Kuru.

> Thus, dhanu indicates the moral fight for dharma,

> where the main

> massage tells us that we cannot stay away from this

> karma, but perform

> the right activities. And what is the right

> activity? That is why

> Arjuna is confused. However, Shri Krishna tells him:

> " Nistrai Guna

> bhava Arjuna " - Be without the three gunas, transcend

> this field of

> karma- Be your SELF- ATMAN, that is the true

> message. So I would not

> assign sign dhanu with war in this low sense.

>

>

> > Dhanus is a sign where jupiter is in " avarohana " ,

> > i.e., heading towards debility, while mars is in

> > " aarohana " , heading towards exaltation.

> Very Good point indeed. Mars in exaltation is

> MahaPurusha, however In

> dhanu, Mars is just to enter exaltation

> Uchchbhilashi,indicating that

> his attitude is calm, before the battle, a true

> warriour has to be

> perfectly calm and composed, like a steel, not a raw

> iron. For that

> reason Mars rules Sama Veda, where Sama indicates

> balance, composed.

> After performing his dharma, a Guru becomes weak, a

> new cycle is

> beginning, that is why fiery signs indicate Sat

> Yuga.

>

>

> > Dhanus is not

> > a pure sattwik / passive sign like pisces, it is a

> > kshatriya / martian sign..Parasara says so. Dhanus

> is

> > a sign of attachment to " action " based on one's

> > " dharma " . And, all action / attachment to action

> is

> > rajasik in nature, according to Sri Krishna.I know

> > that you will not think that I am showing off when

> I

> > quote from scriptures...you know the scriptures

> and me

> > too well to think that!

> No, On the contrary, I appriciate that, I know you

> well, to think that

> you are showing off. No please, go on. I personally

> beleive that that

> dhanu does not show attachment to action and that

> Shri Krishna does

> not advise that. He advises: " Nistrai Guna Bhava

> ARjuna " be without

> tri gunas. I personally beleiva that the more we

> concur rajas, the

> more satva will come. Dhanu is natural 9th house of

> the Kaal Purush,

> and is the place of Isha -God, It is the guiding

> principle of our

> birth. I cannot assign rajas guna to it. Actually,

> Chara signs are

> rajas, stira signs are tamas, and dvishabhava sign

> (dhanu is here) are

> Satva as far as creation is concerned.

>

>

>

> > The term " Vaiswanara " refers to the cosmic fire as

> > also the digestive fire. The manipura chakra

> lording

> > digestive fire is ruled by Mars. It can also be

> > recalled that the creation of Brahma started from

> this

> > point...hence this is the begining of creation.

> > Infact, the first veedhi of Vaiswanara nakshatra

> > mandala is called " aja " meaning " unborn " as well

> as

> > " goat " (mesha?). All this is taken from

> Vishnupurana

> > and I will give the link below, so if you have

> missed

> > it earlier, you can go through it now. I would

> > appreciate your comments on it very much.

>

> > sohamsa/message/28

>

> I hate myself for not knowing Hindi, othervise I

> would take a leave

> from here and lock myself into one of yours huge

> libraries and will

> not leave it for months... I will have to go through

> it, so we can

> discuss it.

>

> > And, Lord krishna says that

>

> > Aham vaiswanarobhutwa praninam dehamasritah|

>

> > That's the first devolvement of God into creation.

> > and, i hope you are able to see the diagram drawn

> by

> > me, because Sourav ji had some difficulty there.

> > Infact, what you see there is an approximation of

> > " yoni " ...the seat of creation.

> I will be back after I take more insight into your

> paperwork from

> Mumbai. You did a great job I remember. So far, I

> think that you are

> right in seing the Agni in Dhanu. But I beleive that

> Agni you see

> refers to light not to fire itself.

> Lot of regards and thanks for this nice thread,

> Zoran

>

>

> > Regards,

> > Lakshmi

>

>

>