Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Narasimha, Who is this person who has been so indecent to post rubbish to the list? Anyway, it will be a good exercise to examine the satrupada A6 for this and the transit of the Moon in the 12th from A6 or aspecting the 12th from it. I cannot think of anything other than a malicious intent which should be based on Money since the Jagannatha Hora Lite is Free. I fail to understand as to why he could not write to you instead. It has become very popular among the students at SJVC and also in the offices in Delhi as it gives so many basic things like Arudha and Varnada which none of the other software have. My intention in advising these features was that the others also add them to their software and this should induce a healthy competition in a Free market economy. I believe in this freedom which is essential for human development. Please do not feel discouraged by this action of a person who like Sanidev is destined to have a stunted growth. Such people are a bane on Jyotish itself and only cause disturbances by their irrational behaviour. Your 12th Lord is the Sun and your first few public donation has been very magnanimous like the Sun God...free of cost. RDD software is a real blessing for Jyotish and now this Jagannath Hora Lite is fantastic. In the past, I have examined umpteem programs for horoscopes and have found many flaws in them, but instead of writing to lists and trying to humiliate the good programmer who has found time to work for a Divine cause, I have written to them personally and tried to speak my mind. Some have been nice to promise improvements. It is my request to all astrologers that we are very few in numbers and the minimum we can do is to encourage the other jyotish who is also struggling for knowing the Divine truth. Om Tat Sat Blessings of Sri Jagannath Sanjay Rath P.S. I have examined the Jagannath Hora (Trial Version) and can only admire its superior calculations and performance. There is no doubt that it is simply fantastic. I think you need to add a few features like sub periods upto the sixth level using the actual solar motion instead of just dividing by 120 as is being done in other software. The Narayan dasa etc. is just marvellous. This software is going to make a big dent in the Jyotish world and Jagannath Mahaprabhu is right behind you. (I hope you are aware of the manifestation of Sri Krishna for the Sakshi Gopal Temple). Also do recite the Shadakshara mantra of the parampara. - Narasimha Rao <pvr <jyotish-list Cc: <vedic astrology > Saturday, January 01, 2000 1:18 AM Re: Free Costs the Most > Dear Das, > > Thanks for your note. You are so correct... > > A couple of people like Pursottam gave excellent and useful feedback. I am > grateful to them. Some other people asked me without referring to the online > help: " What is this? What is that? Why is my arudha lagna here? " I was > hard-pressed for time to answer those people, but answered them. It was an > inconvenience (esp after taking time to write a quick online help), but it > was ok. > > But when people enter wrong data and send a mail to vedic astrology list with > 200 people and announce a non-existent virus with my name to 2 lists, I must > wonder what they really want. > > Two notes here: > > (1) To those who may be concerned about my program registering to use files > that start with *.dat: If another program already registered that extension, > JHLite doesn't change it. It still uses that extension when saving charts, > but it does not change the registration. Also, when you uninstall JHLite, all > those *.dat files will NOT be removed. SO THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM > HERE. Tapani wrongly saw it as a virus. His problems with PL have some other > reason. > > (2) My intention in distributing this free program was to help those who > cannot afford commercial programs. I just wanted to help people. It was never > my intention to put pressure on commercial providers. I thought a lot before > including Tajaka annual charts and Ashottari dasa in my program. I will try > not to do anything to put pressure on commercial providers. > > It is a truth that what commercial providers are doing is a great > service.While making some money on it, they are rendering a great service. In > fact, they deserve to make money for their service. It will be grossly > SHORT-SIGHTED to HURT them. Even for JHLite, I dropped some planned features > due to the advice of elders, who did not want me to disturb the balance in > the market for commercial Jyotish software. I will continue to be careful. > Das and Michiel, I guarantee that. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > ----------- > My astrology homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz > Free software: http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz > List: vedic astrology/fullinfo.html > ----------- > SJVC list: sjvc/fullinfo.html > Newsletter: jyotish-news/fullinfo.html > SJVC homepage: http://members.xoom.com/hariomtatsat > ----------- > > Das Goravani wrote: > > > Hello to Narasingha and Everyone, > > > > I have noticed, over my years, that when I am benevolent, that is > > when the results are the worst. The more " free " something was, the > > greater the tech support, is what I found, as the thing easily gets > > into passionate hands, not tempered by the necessary austerity to > > gain the object, not careful due to having paid nothing for the object. > > > > I laughed a little when I saw the Scatalia hit the rotator for > > Narasingha here lately, after doing something entirely benevolently, > > which takes great focus and drive. I felt vindicated at least in > > that I wasn't alone- it was a phenomena, and not a thing with me. > > > > So in that light Narasingha, thank you for what you've done. > > > > I do think that those who are benevolent as you, should think twice > > before making free programs really extensive. There's a certain > > communistic spirit in all of us, which drives us to want to give > > freely, widely, which I greatly sympathize with. > > > > However, on the day of your announcement on this list and to me, of > > your new free program, I thought alot about it. I realized that if I > > or Michiel did certain actions, we could greatly tilt the balance in > > this little market of Jyotish Software. Somebody else, such as > > yourself, could also do it. > > > > If someone were to release and constantly upgrade a program such as > > GJ, for absolutely free, then there would be no other development, > > as most others need to make money based on their work. > > > > The internet makes it easy for anyone to distribute a small program, > > so there is no shipping department, no tech support promised, > > nothing, just post that little baby up on the site and get all the > > kudos, all the thanks, all that " good feeling " of having been benevolent. > > > > But another truth grows as soon as you do that. The truth that those > > who have actual running businesses in the same field, who fund > > development of various items for their " for sale " software, who live > > on that, and so on, well, you hurt them. Yes, of course, you hurt > > them. Like I said, if the program were good enough, you'd put us out > > of business. > > > > If it was just " kindof good " , then we'd have to work harder, to > > create a larger lead, to justify " buying " instead of " downloading " . > > > > Because it's just bytes of data, streaming around the internet, or > > on a CD, because it's intellectual property, it can be easily now > > distributed, given away, bootlegged, etc. > > > > Our actions do have results. If I were to unprotect my software, I > > might think, " oh it's nice for me, and I don't care " , but the fact > > is I would really hurt Michiel Boender, and his people, and their > > investors, and so on. They have struggled to create a program in > > multiple languages, that does so much, invested their lives for > > years, and their money. Everyone has benefitted by their work. This > > same thing applies to me and my family, and my people. > > > > It may seem like good heartedness to post intellectual property for > > free, but it hurts those who created the space in the first place, > > and have their lives setup around developing things- and working > > under the normal constraints of needing to make a living off of > > one's work. > > > > I believe in free movement however. And I'm a good loser. We'll see > > what time brings onto us. I think this is why you already get public > > tech support nightmares, because actually, there is quite alot of > > ego involved in posting free software. The real backbone of the > > action is what is causing and taking the hit of the real reaction. > > What we play mental games with in the interim is not what's real. > > > > Hare Krishna, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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