Retro planets & pad clarification to Sanjay P

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Dear Sanjay P and all members,

 

There is also a classical reference to it , if i get time to look back to library i will quote to you also, what i am sharing is my experience.

 

Controversies among astrologers are there and will always be there and this is one of the reasons for further research and understanding for future astrologers. (from Shri Katwe till today we have improved a lot)

 

Even KP system is using this retro effect but no use to me as i am not following KP system.

 

Chesta bal is calculated w.r.t motion of the planets not respect to Argala, imfact Argala bal mathematical calculation is not mentioned in classics as i know so far.

 

My (Jamini) jyotish Guru (now i am not in touch since few years) have devised the concept to find the strenght of Rasis following only jamini concept ( 1. Argala, 2. degree 3. Majority 4. odd-even) mathematically to get snap-shot of it (for computerising), it is fairly accurate, but there is no direct classical support to it. He told to me that argala is very important basic concept. I am trying to get more knowledge on Rasi Dasa system as i am use to Udu dasa system.

 

I want to know about Arudh pad applying technique (not calculation part and controversies) as Shri Rath has explained about UP-Pad(12P) to take as lagna for wife. ( i am already using navamsha similarly as Shri Rath has also explained)

1. How to use padas for lagnas for other members and relatives.

2. What does seventh pada (7P) indicate.

3. Why 12P is considered important to see for wife and a very important pada as described in details (even more than 9P) by Rishi jamine.

4. How effectively we can use to forsee especially 3P,6P,8P,11P for their houses respectively.

 

Best Wishes

Vijay Goel.

 

Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:12:57 -0000"sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjaychettiarRe: Sannyasa Yogas \ retro planets to Sanjay P|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Vijayji> > Retro Planets affects previous houses has been used by many eminentastrologers ( Shri KN Rao has used in his books extensively).Sanjay P : Did Shri KN Rao give any references for his use in hisbook?. Sanjayji does not seem to be using it. So there seems to besome contradictions. Hence, I am looking for references. If Shree KNRaoji has provided the reference please tell me.Any graha can effect the previous house due to argala. If one says theChesta bala increases the argala influence and hence effects theprevious house then it can be understood. Warm RegardsSanjay P>Chesta Bal increases many folds may be this shows that it tries togives result (chesta) for more houses than normal besides otherinterpretetions. > > > Eight motions of planets as described by Parasara with respects toSun's distance w.r.t. bhavas.> It is used in Mundane prediction mentioned by various panchang, i amnot aware about the real technique, Sarvatobadra chakra and otherchakras which are used for Mundane prediction.> > In Natal chart and Gochara I dont used any special aspects of planets.> > I have observed that If planet is atichari in gochara (transit), Itfails to give result of the bhava in which it is situated.> Best result of the bhava is obtained if planet is in normal speed(mand,mandater,sama,char).> > > Though better understanding can be there after going through Astakvarge.> > Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:20:17 -0500> Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...>> Re: Sannyasa Yogas \ retro planets> > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Dear Vijay and other Learned Jyotishas,> > Please do not consider this impudent.> Academically it would be great help if you could present shloka from> classic. I do understand that some dictums are not directly available. I> will be very happy to even see a good interpretation of existingshlokas.> > The nearest thing to this from my memory is about Latta (Kicks orankle hits> of Graha) called Purva lattas. This is from I think is Sarvotobhadratransit> analysis, I think Phaladeepika mentions this. But in myunderstanding these> backward count for nakshatra is different than aspects. Since I havenot yet> learnt about these I cannot say much.> > Another question which I always want to ask is, There is eight kinds of> motion as per Parashara> > Ch 27.12 /RSantanam edition/> > Eight kinds of motions are attributed to Grahas.> These are> > 1. Vakr (retrogression),> 2. Anuvakr (entering the previous Räsi in retrograde motion),> 3. Vikal (devoid of motion),> 4. Mand (somewhat slower motion than usual),> 5. Mandatar (slower than the previous),> 6. Sama (somewhat increasing in motion),> 7. Char (faster than Sama) and> 8. Atichar (entering next Räsi in accelerated motion).> > > The strengths, allotted due to such 8 motions are 60, 30, 15, 30,15, 7.5,> 45 and 30.> > I would be happy if any one can clearly explain the above motions.And, If> the drishti changes with each type of Vakra motion> > > Warm Regards> Sanjay P