Guest guest Posted January 12, 2000 Report Share Posted January 12, 2000 Jaya Jagannath Dear Narasimha, Your intuition/reasoning about D-12 & D-24 is very accurate. Real learning has to do with ones innate nature and learning of the Mother Tongue is among the first intelligent acts. Thus, the " birth place or mother land " to the extent of cultural influence at home is seen from the D-24 (2nd house). Thus, traditional texts also treat the 2nd house for learning and call it Vac-Devi Sthana as it opens the speech of the native. The fourth is Ganesha Sthana no doubt. Here, Saraswati controls the overall learning by hving the 5th house as Saraswati Sthana, especially in D-24. Now you can you also see the relationship of worshipping Ganapati on Chaturthi and Saraswati on Panchami? Om Tat Sat Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao <pvr <varahamihira > Tuesday, December 28, 1999 9:59 AM [Jagannath] Re: Dwadasamsa > Pranaam Sanjay, > > > The Saptamsa and Navamsa are regular charts i.e. the first > > saptamsa of > > every successive sign always follows the last saptamsa of the > > previous sign. > > This is also true for Navamsa, but not for Dwadasamsa and > > Dasamsa etc. When > > the Varga is not regularly ordained, we cannot see fruits from > > the 11th > > house of the concerned bhava. > > Is D-12 the chart of parents because the 12th house stands for > lineage and continuity in a vamsa? Does D-12 represent the > manifestation of that in the physical plane and hence shows > parents? Does D-24 represent the manifestation of that in the > mental/intellectual plane and hence represents learning? > > > I have explained earlier that for some things we need to > > accept the > > teachings of the Guru. Here, we need to accept the teachings > > of Parasara > > blindly. > > I agree. Just to clarify my position vis-a-vis my earlier > question on prasna: Parasara's teachings are clear about which > varga shows parents. But I am not aware of any conclusive > instruction by Parasara on prasna sastra. The classic Prasna > Marga, for example, suggests casting a chart when a query is > *posed*. In that case, the riddle I had (a query posed sincerely > and humbly to a congregation of learned astrologers together and > attempted by different astrologers at different times) is solved > - all get the same chart. Of course, we can also solve the riddle > by disqualifying such a prasna. > > But, essentially, there is no clear instruction by Parasara or > Jaimini (as far as I know) and your teaching differs from Prasna > Marga. So questioning it is not the same as questioning the > basics clearly established by Parasara. There is a difference > bwteen the two. > > > Some astrologers of yore (I think Manteswara) have > > questioned and also > > differed by saying that Dwadasamsa is for spouse and Drekkana > > for profession > > !! They have tried to alter the basic premise of Jyotish when > > they did not > > get the answers to " Why Dwadasamsa for Parents " . > > Even today, people continue to mess with basics *clearly defined* > by maharshis. Look at the " 5th house for learning " teaching of > Rao saheb! > > Your grateful sishya, > Narasimha > > > > ------ > HARI OM TAT SAT > Jaya Jagannatha Mahaprabhu > > ------ > GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! > Gator fills in forms and remembers passwords with NO TYPING at over > 100,000 web sites! Get $100 in coupons for trying Gator! > http://click./1/340/3/_/2192/_/946355503 > > eGroups.com Home: varahamihira/ > - Simplifying group communications > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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