Re[3]: Moolatrikona to Guru Zoran

September 28, 2005

Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha,

Dear Leoncio,

> Thanks for the explanation. In my case, dhanu ( related to

> dharma) is 10th house and the warrior Mars is there conjunct the

> adharmic graha Rahu, forming a Vijaya Yoga. Jupiter is in 5th

> exalted. But the 10th house is second from the AL in 9th ( a dharma

> place too). Seems like the 10th resambles really kuruksetra, isn`t

> it? I fiery sign sign with a fiery graha conjunct a tamasic node.

It is VIjaya Yoga, and I hope you understand its implications. When

Shri Hanuman (Mangal) went to kill Ravana (Rahu), he finally did it,

but the whole Lanka was set on fire. This indicates that your 10th

house in the chart is on fire. Luckily Mangal (devotion-the symbol of

Shri Hanuman-bhakti) will win over the neecha Rahu, but there would in

times be terrible flame in the house. Guru luckily hates both grahas,

since according to Pachakadi Sambhanda they are in 6th from it. Mars

dasha is giving the effects of Rahu, which is not good, particularly

being in 2nd from Arudha lagna.Rahu dasha will end the strife, since

Rahu will give the results of Mars. Make Mars stronger

Best wishes

Zoran

>

> Please, could you help me to understand better these

> combinations. In reality, i am living Mars dasa and after some years

> from now will come the long Rahu period. I am sure this period of

> today and my decision are very important because i have a certain

> liberty after some " batles " that i have won ( dhanu seem to enjoy

> liberty! ); increasing my responsability. Now, i am with a dharmic

> question in my life: what should i do because i have just retired.

> Is there some practice and mantra to help me in this regard?

>

> Thank you very much indeed

>

> Leoncio

> =================================

> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa escreveu:

> Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha,

> Dear Laksmi

>> Please don't " ji " me, because I have learnt from you

>> and am your sishya in astro-knowledge and experience.

> Oh, its a sign of respect, not only for your knowledge, but I do

> personally like you very much.

>> Now, coming to the topic on hand, I agree with you

>> that Dhanus is a saattwik sign, (i better agree,

>> seeing that its our common ascendant:--))) but still

>> it is a fire sign and fire is rajo guni. Dhanus

>> represents battle grounds, military camps etc and

>> that's hardly saattwik, isn't it? Infact this

>> description makes Dhanus sound more like a house of

>> Mars, the war lord, than that of jupiter!

> I agree with the fact that Dhanush is a fiery sign, but it is the

> highest form of Agni tatva. There are two aspects of Agni tatva, one

> is fire and another is light. It has not to do with the war in real

> sense, but it is the war for dharma, as beautifully explained in

> Bhagavad Gita, where Kurukshetra is the field -Kshetra of Karma-Kuru.

> Thus, dhanu indicates the moral fight for dharma, where the main

> massage tells us that we cannot stay away from this karma, but perform

> the right activities. And what is the right activity? That is why

> Arjuna is confused. However, Shri Krishna tells him: " Nistrai Guna

> bhava Arjuna " - Be without the three gunas, transcend this field of

> karma- Be your SELF- ATMAN, that is the true message. So I would not

> assign sign dhanu with war in this low sense.

>> Dhanus is a sign where jupiter is in " avarohana " ,

>> i.e., heading towards debility, while mars is in

>> " aarohana " , heading towards exaltation.

> Very Good point indeed. Mars in exaltation is MahaPurusha, however In

> dhanu, Mars is just to enter exaltation Uchchbhilashi,indicating that

> his attitude is calm, before the battle, a true warriour has to be

> perfectly calm and composed, like a steel, not a raw iron. For that

> reason Mars rules Sama Veda, where Sama indicates balance, composed.

> After performing his dharma, a Guru becomes weak, a new cycle is

> beginning, that is why fiery signs indicate Sat Yuga.

>> Dhanus is not

>> a pure sattwik / passive sign like pisces, it is a

>> kshatriya / martian sign..Parasara says so. Dhanus is

>> a sign of attachment to " action " based on one's

>> " dharma " . And, all action / attachment to action is

>> rajasik in nature, according to Sri Krishna.I know

>> that you will not think that I am showing off when I

>> quote from scriptures...you know the scriptures and me

>> too well to think that!

> No, On the contrary, I appriciate that, I know you well, to think that

> you are showing off. No please, go on. I personally beleive that that

> dhanu does not show attachment to action and that Shri Krishna does

> not advise that. He advises: " Nistrai Guna Bhava ARjuna " be without

> tri gunas. I personally beleiva that the more we concur rajas, the

> more satva will come. Dhanu is natural 9th house of the Kaal Purush,

> and is the place of Isha -God, It is the guiding principle of our

> birth. I cannot assign rajas guna to it. Actually, Chara signs are

> rajas, stira signs are tamas, and dvishabhava sign (dhanu is here) are

> Satva as far as creation is concerned.

>> The term " Vaiswanara " refers to the cosmic fire as

>> also the digestive fire. The manipura chakra lording

>> digestive fire is ruled by Mars. It can also be

>> recalled that the creation of Brahma started from this

>> point...hence this is the begining of creation.

>> Infact, the first veedhi of Vaiswanara nakshatra

>> mandala is called " aja " meaning " unborn " as well as

>> " goat " (mesha?). All this is taken from Vishnupurana

>> and I will give the link below, so if you have missed

>> it earlier, you can go through it now. I would

>> appreciate your comments on it very much.

>> sohamsa/message/28

> I hate myself for not knowing Hindi, othervise I would take a leave

> from here and lock myself into one of yours huge libraries and will

> not leave it for months... I will have to go through it, so we can

> discuss it.

>> And, Lord krishna says that

>> Aham vaiswanarobhutwa praninam dehamasritah|

>> That's the first devolvement of God into creation.

>> and, i hope you are able to see the diagram drawn by

>> me, because Sourav ji had some difficulty there.

>> Infact, what you see there is an approximation of

>> " yoni " ...the seat of creation.

> I will be back after I take more insight into your paperwork from

> Mumbai. You did a great job I remember. So far, I think that you are

> right in seing the Agni in Dhanu. But I beleive that Agni you see

> refers to light not to fire itself.

> Lot of regards and thanks for this nice thread,

> Zoran

>> Regards,

>> Lakshmi

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> *tat savitur varenyam*

>

September 29, 2005

Dear Zoran

Thank you very much for the nice explanation. Please, if possible, see some of my question below (basics).

>This indicates that your 10th house in the chart is on fire.

question1: That is true because i have passed some periods of fire in 10th house matters (job, workplace). So would it be better not to have Mars in 10th? For instance, another person has a similar combination (pisces lagna, Guru in 5th exalted, Rahu in 10th), although without the vijaya yoga, but Mars is conjuct Ketu,instead (this is not good either).

question2: what should be the effect of Rahu first in 10th alone as this person i have metioned and second conjunt Mars as my case? I mean how Rahu actuates here in both cases in 10th house matter conjuct Mars and alone? By bad companies, accidents, maquinations, laziness, enemies?

>Luckily Mangal (devotion-the symbol of Shri Hanuman-bhakti) will win over the neecha Rahu,

question3- I have a certain difficulty to understand Mars energy, because Mars, according to texts, is a tamasic graha. Although for Pisces lagna, Mars rule the 9th.Shoudnt it be better to make Hanuman stronger than Mars?

question4:You have written that luckily Guru, my LL,hates both grahas in 10th because of the relationship 6/8 between 10th and 5th. Guru is normally a friend of Mars: so please explain if it is adequate for me the practice of mantras to Mars considering this relatinship 6/8 with Guru?

> but there would in times be terrible flame in the house.

That has happende really and because of this i have asked you above if would be better not to have the Vijaya yoga in 10th.

>Mars dasha is giving the effects of Rahu, which is not good, particularly being in 2nd from Arudha lagna.

question 5: what should be these effects?

question 6: If Mars energy may be transmuted than perhaps neecha Rahu energy in 10th may be transmuted too and possible i may use convenientment Mars period (that gives the effect of Rahu). Is this correct?

>Make Mars stronger

question7 I understand that there are many ways to make Mars stronger like by mantras, coral rock, and including certain martian activities in my life as sports, food a bit more hot, actuating in Engineering field perhaps reserch. Is this correct?

Thank you very much indeed for you guidance

Leoncio

=================================================Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa escreveu:

Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha,Dear Leoncio,> Thanks for the explanation. In my case, dhanu ( related to> dharma) is 10th house and the warrior Mars is there conjunct the> adharmic graha Rahu, forming a Vijaya Yoga. Jupiter is in 5th> exalted. But the 10th house is second from the AL in 9th ( a dharma> place too). Seems like the 10th resambles really kuruksetra, isn`t> it? I fiery sign sign with a fiery graha conjunct a tamasic node.It is VIjaya Yoga, and I hope you understand its implications. WhenShri Hanuman (Mangal) went to kill Ravana (Rahu), he finally did it,but the whole Lanka was set on fire. This indicates that your 10thhouse in the chart is on fire. Luckily Mangal (devotion-the symbol ofShri Hanuman-bhakti) will win over the neecha Rahu, but there would intimes be

terrible flame in the house. Guru luckily hates both grahas,since according to Pachakadi Sambhanda they are in 6th from it. Marsdasha is giving the effects of Rahu, which is not good, particularlybeing in 2nd from Arudha lagna.Rahu dasha will end the strife, sinceRahu will give the results of Mars. Make Mars strongerBest wishesZoran> > Please, could you help me to understand better these> combinations. In reality, i am living Mars dasa and after some years> from now will come the long Rahu period. I am sure this period of> today and my decision are very important because i have a certain> liberty after some "batles" that i have won ( dhanu seem to enjoy> liberty! ); increasing my responsability. Now, i am with a dharmic> question in my life: what should i do because i have just retired.> Is there some practice and mantra to help me in this regard?> >

Thank you very much indeed> > Leoncio > =================================> Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa escreveu: > Om Hrim Gam Hrim MahaGanapataye Namah Svaha,> Dear Laksmi>> Please don't "ji" me, because I have learnt from you>> and am your sishya in astro-knowledge and experience.> Oh, its a sign of respect, not only for your knowledge, but I do> personally like you very much.>> Now, coming to the topic on hand, I agree with you>> that Dhanus is a saattwik sign, (i better agree,>> seeing that its our common ascendant:--))) but still>> it is a fire sign and fire is rajo guni. Dhanus>> represents battle grounds, military camps etc and>> that's hardly saattwik, isn't it? Infact this>> description makes Dhanus sound more like a house of>> Mars, the war lord, than that of jupiter!>

I agree with the fact that Dhanush is a fiery sign, but it is the> highest form of Agni tatva. There are two aspects of Agni tatva, one> is fire and another is light. It has not to do with the war in real> sense, but it is the war for dharma, as beautifully explained in> Bhagavad Gita, where Kurukshetra is the field -Kshetra of Karma-Kuru.> Thus, dhanu indicates the moral fight for dharma, where the main> massage tells us that we cannot stay away from this karma, but perform> the right activities. And what is the right activity? That is why> Arjuna is confused. However, Shri Krishna tells him: "Nistrai Guna> bhava Arjuna"- Be without the three gunas, transcend this field of> karma- Be your SELF- ATMAN, that is the true message. So I would not> assign sign dhanu with war in this low sense.>> Dhanus is a sign where jupiter is in "avarohana",>> i.e., heading towards

debility, while mars is in>> "aarohana", heading towards exaltation.> Very Good point indeed. Mars in exaltation is MahaPurusha, however In> dhanu, Mars is just to enter exaltation Uchchbhilashi,indicating that> his attitude is calm, before the battle, a true warriour has to be> perfectly calm and composed, like a steel, not a raw iron. For that> reason Mars rules Sama Veda, where Sama indicates balance, composed.> After performing his dharma, a Guru becomes weak, a new cycle is> beginning, that is why fiery signs indicate Sat Yuga.>> Dhanus is not>> a pure sattwik / passive sign like pisces, it is a>> kshatriya / martian sign..Parasara says so. Dhanus is>> a sign of attachment to "action" based on one's>> "dharma". And, all action / attachment to action is>> rajasik in nature, according to Sri Krishna.I know>> that you will not think

that I am showing off when I>> quote from scriptures...you know the scriptures and me>> too well to think that!> No, On the contrary, I appriciate that, I know you well, to think that> you are showing off. No please, go on. I personally beleive that that> dhanu does not show attachment to action and that Shri Krishna does> not advise that. He advises: " Nistrai Guna Bhava ARjuna" be without> tri gunas. I personally beleiva that the more we concur rajas, the> more satva will come. Dhanu is natural 9th house of the Kaal Purush,> and is the place of Isha -God, It is the guiding principle of our> birth. I cannot assign rajas guna to it. Actually, Chara signs are> rajas, stira signs are tamas, and dvishabhava sign (dhanu is here) are> Satva as far as creation is concerned.>> The term "Vaiswanara" refers to the cosmic fire as>> also the digestive fire. The

manipura chakra lording>> digestive fire is ruled by Mars. It can also be>> recalled that the creation of Brahma started from this>> point...hence this is the begining of creation.>> Infact, the first veedhi of Vaiswanara nakshatra>> mandala is called "aja" meaning "unborn" as well as>> "goat" (mesha?). All this is taken from Vishnupurana>> and I will give the link below, so if you have missed>> it earlier, you can go through it now. I would>> appreciate your comments on it very much.>> sohamsa/message/28> I hate myself for not knowing Hindi, othervise I would take a leave> from here and lock myself into one of yours huge libraries and will> not leave it for months... I will have to go through it, so we can> discuss it.>> And, Lord

krishna says that >> Aham vaiswanarobhutwa praninam dehamasritah|>> That's the first devolvement of God into creation.>> and, i hope you are able to see the diagram drawn by>> me, because Sourav ji had some difficulty there.>> Infact, what you see there is an approximation of>> "yoni"...the seat of creation.> I will be back after I take more insight into your paperwork from> Mumbai. You did a great job I remember. So far, I think that you are> right in seing the Agni in Dhanu. But I beleive that Agni you see> refers to light not to fire itself.> Lot of regards and thanks for this nice thread,> Zoran>> Regards,>> Lakshmi> Novo Messenger com voz: ligações, Avatars, novos> emoticons e muito mais. Instale agora! > *tat savitur

varenyam* >