kala chakra and atmakaraka (RE: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji)

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Lakshmi-ji,

Namaskar. Nice attempt, but I beg to differ. Dhi or

intelligence which decides our actions (including cheating etc)is

determined from Jupiter and benefic/malefic influences on it or its

dispositor. It is also seen from Lagna and Pakalagna. Let's not

forget the basics.

 

Best regards

sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Swee & Utpal,

>

> I feel that the very purpose of Ishta is to correct

> our li'l kinks and retrogressions and force us firmly

> onto the " right (read zodiacal) path " as shown by the

> luminaries. Isn't it so?

>

> I think Rahu as AK gives one the rare ability to

> totally " eclipse " one's own identity and takeon some

> other's persona. For example, Sri Ramakrishna's

> ability to morph himself so completely into Radha and

> Hanuman, including even physical characteristics, is

> something only Rahu as AK can perhaps bestow. I don't

> know if Visti also has this ability!

>

> I also feel that the behaviour of Rahu as AK is

> largely dependent on the dignity of its dispositor and

> Saturn. In Sri Ramkrishna's chart, Saturn is exalted

> and so is Venus, Rahu's dispositor. In Visti's chart,

> Rahu's dispositor Moon and Saturn are placed in the

> 11th house, pointing to his great interest in

> astrology.

>

> But if Rahu's dispositor and Saturn are ill placed,

> perhaps the native with such a Rahu as AK might turn

> out to be a cheat.

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

> --- Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote:

>

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> >

> >

> > I guess these 8 spokes represent the " 2 layers " of

> > the dwaras and are

> > different to the 12 spokes representing the wheel of

> > time.

> >

> > I had an interesting read about planets either in

> > the 12th or aspecting the

> > 12th from karakamsa in the JMUS wrt moksa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Love,

> >

> >

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > sohamsa

> > [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> > Visti Larsen

> > Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:33 AM

> > sohamsa

> > kala chakra and atmakaraka (RE:

> > Re: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji)

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Swee, Namaskar

> >

> > The Jeevanmuktaamsa is seen from the twelfth from

> > karakamsa. In this

> > parampara we consider this the istha, as the one who

> > can give Mukti in this

> > body (jeevan-mukta) must be the most auspicious, and

> > the rest are just

> > temporary focus of worship.

> >

> >

> >

> > The planet determining the karakamsa, is the

> > atmakaraka and there are only

> > eight such for the animate beings, as these animate

> > beings follow time. The

> > wheel of time has these eight spokes imbeded and is

> > known as the Kala

> > Chakra. This is the basis of hinduism. It is also

> > the 'map' of the atma or

> > soul, and shows the eight states (nine actually)

> > which the atma can be in

> > during anytime... see Dhyana-bindu-upanishad, sloka

> > 94.

> >

> >

> >

> > Among these eight spokes, half are recieving energy

> > whilst the other half

> > are excerting energy. Because of the sense of

> > ahamkara present in most

> > animate beings, the spokes recieving energy are the

> > only ones 'awake'... the

> > rest are hidden or without awareness. However, once

> > in a while an atma is

> > born with more awareness of the remaining 'hidden'

> > petals, and there are

> > four such atmas depending on the atmakaraka. These

> > those with their

> > atmakaraka as; Mangal, Budha, Shani and

> >

> > Rahu.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thus the atmakaraka itself can determine the level

> > of awareness and

> > spirituality.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

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> >

> > _____

> >

> > sohamsa

> > [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> > Swee Chan

> > 11 October 2005 16:40

> > sohamsa

> > RE: Re: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Namaste

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Indeed it is not the graha which decides, but the

> > vishwatma or karakamsa

> > sign itself.||

> >

> >

> >

> > Sourav has hit the nail on the head. He says Rahu is

> > the non conformist. So

> > why, should Rahu conform and be like the rest of the

> > grahas in ascertaining

> > the Istha? (Please explain the root of Vishva.)

> >

> >

> >

> > In any case, why should a malefic planet indicate

> > high spirituality when it

> > is the planet or sign in the 12th from karakamsa

> > that ascertains the Istha.

> > Shouldn't we, in the first place look at the 9th

> > house of dharma and its

> > lord and sthirakarakas in rasi?

> >

> >

> >

> > And no, I am not asking for any new research :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Swee

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > sohamsa

> > [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

> > Visti Larsen

> > Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:28 PM

> > sohamsa

> > RE: Re: Rahu AK - Sanjay ji

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Swee, Namaskar

> >

> > I agree fully with Sourav's latest statement. Indeed

> > it is not the graha

> > which decides, but the vishwatma or karakamsa sign

> > itself. To support this;

> > Guruji has always said that my ishta devata is Sri

> > Vishnu, from the

> > begining, and has always referred to Mercury.

> >

> > I have Rahu atmakaraka and the twelfth house is

> > unoccupied and unaspected,

> > whilst the lord is Mercury.

> >

> > The second from Karakamsa has Surya and Shani in

> > Simha. The obvious choice

> > among the two would be the stronger graha; Surya,

> > and there has never been

> > any talk about Surya nor Surya-narayana, as far as

> > Ishta devata is

> > concerned.

> >

> >

> >

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