Benefics in the 3rd from AL - Sarajit

March 3, 2007

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarajit,

Namaste

As I said I always considered only Venus because of its rajasic nature, not so much Jupiter. But agree that only these two will give fore knowledge. For an interesting twist, if Sun is in 3rd from AL, will it show knowledge of the past much clearer than for most?

I have found that in cases where Moon is a benefic, these people are not prone to depression, no matter even if Rahu aspects it. It can give the mind of a maverick.

Love,

Swee

On 3/3/07 6:09 AM, " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajitp

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Swee, Namaskar,

I would not consider all benefics in the 3rd from AL to give foreknowledge. Only two gurus, Jupiter and Venus can give foreknowledge of death.

About the 4th house significance in matters of Suicide. If a person is not unhappy, he will hardly do suicide. 5th house is for maintaining inner harmony when the person is sad, hence important.

I would think optimism to be seen from benefic influences on the lagna and the lagna lord. The way we see the world is seen from the lagna and optimism is just an attitude. For example, if Saturn aspects the lagna, usually such people tend to see the gloomy side of a thing, however it is different if Jupiter or Sun influences.

Regards

Sarajit

On 2/25/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarajit,

Namaste

I looked for Venus in the 3rd from AL because Shukra who debilitated Surya gives the fore knowledge of death. I have many cases especially when cancerous growths are concerned. What I have not realised is that any benefic in the 3rd from AL gives this fore knowledge.

Thank you for pointing out that the 4th house is also involved in suicidal tendencies besides the 5th. Is 4th the secondary house to look into?

She was quite a chirpy lady – Moon's affliction certainly made her capable of hiding her feelings. As for being an optimist, this is indicative of an unafflicted Sun, is it not?

Love,

Swee

On 2/24/07 8:05 AM, " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajitp

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Swee,

4th and 5th houses are important in suicidal tendencies. In the given horoscope the 4th lord Mercury is placed in the Lagna with Venus with the 3rd and 8th lord Venus. This shows sorrow coming in her life. However, how capable the person is, to withstand the sorrow is seen from the 5th house. 5th house is vancant and the 5th lord Moon is placed in a eclipse combination (Sun + Rahu) and hence considerably afflicted. In addition, she is born in a amavasya with Moon being the 5th lord also involved. This all shows that she has almost lost her harmony to withstand any sorrow from outside.

However, a person really moves ahead to do suicide only when the 5th from Moon is equally afflicted. 5th from Moon is lorded by Sun who is considerably afflicted due to its presence with Rahu and Moon (Shakti Yoga). In addition as Visti Mentioned, since Jupiter is placed in the 3rd from AL, it shows foreknowledge of the person dying. Hence, it is a case of Suicide and not homicide.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

On 2/20/07, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarbani, Visti et al,

Namaste

Can you help with your analysis? A young lady was found dead in her bedroom on 20th Dec 2006. The doctors reckoned that she had been dead for at least 6 hours when they found her body.

During her childhood, she had courted with the idea of suicide when her father left her mother to bring her up alone. However, she decided to keep her maternal surname clinging on to the last hope of " finding maternal solace " . She was on anti depressants shortly before her demise.....Depression is analysed from the 5th whose lord is afflicted by 2 malefics.

The DOB 20th April, 1985 5:20am, London, England.

Lagna is Pisces with ascending degrees in rapt aspect with retrograde 8th lord. The 6th house is afflicted by 3 malefics – Mars, Saturn and Rahu

Was it an overdose or was it a case of suicide? Thanks for your help.

Love,

Swee