Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Sanjay ji et al, Namaste Firstly, we need to understand that gemstones produced on Earth from Bala asura’s body are enjoyed by pure persons due to the wealth of the collection of their religious merit (punya). Ref. Padma Purana Uttarakhanda Chapter 6 v.31 below. With regards to a planet’s negative energy which cannot be “corrected” in the vargas by a gemstone! The above reference does not require delving into which is wrongly understood by some :-). Chrysoberyl (Trigonal crystallisation akin to Sapphires) has the hardness of 8.5 and the refractive index is 1.744-1.755 with the absorption spectrum ranging from 4450 – 5040. Of course, the colour change is the one we know as Alexandrite (Orthorhombic crystallisation) . While the Cat’s Eye (orthorhombic) we recommend for Ketu comes from the same crystallization of the striation like in the vidula reed. Because of the fine parallel inclusions, the fine silver-white line (of the iris) effect is obtained not from faceting the gemstone, but in fashioning it into a cabochon. A good cabochon has a flat base. You’ll find that in order to compensate the straight iris effect of the cat’s eye, a cabochon can be fashioned rather deep/ovoid in shape which one should avoid. Description of the gemstone is described as Vaidurya which is always misrepresented as Lapis Lazuli! The testing of Vaidurya, Pushparaga etc were first expounded by Brahma and then repeated by Vyasa. In the case of Peridot which Sanjay ji recommends for a debiltated Mercury??, the hardness of Peridot is much less with 6.5 – 7 on the moh’s scale and the refractive index is also less with 1.654 – 1.69 though the absorption spectrum is similar. But the pertinent point one should bear in mind is not the hardness as we have been led to believe, but in the crystallisation of the gem or mineral. This is my understanding of the formation after reading in the Padma Purana about Bala asura’s destruction by Indra, who hoodwinked him. That the bone particles that fell from Indra’s vajra turned into hexagonal shaped gemstones. This has been the biggest hint given! We can finally categorize gemstones under their respective crystallisation and not of the hardness etc., which is just to differentiate them. CRYSTALLISATIONS Isometric Almandine - Red Garnet (red with violet tint) Cuprite - Cu2O with metallic lustre, very high refractive index. Transparent carmine red colour. (lots if fakes in the trade) Demantoid - garnet group; andradite variety of emerald green or green colour Diamond Fluorite - also called fluospar, comes in red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, nearly black and colourless Garnet - Gahnite - a zinc spinel, transparent with various intensities of blue, green and red-violet hue – a collector’s item Gold Grossular - garnet group; green, yellow, copper brown colours as in Hessonite (gomedha) Lapis Lazuli - sometimes called lazurite; composed of several minerals – augite, calcite, diopside, mica, hauynite, hornblende and pyrite. Very sensitive to pressure and high temperatures. Lazurite that is well distributed with pyrite is more preferred. Too much pyrite makes it dull looking with a greenish hue. Azurite without the pyrite is known as azurite because of its azure blue colour. Without the pyrite etc, its crystallisation is monoclinic and not isometric. **Leucite - transparent, colourless, white. A collectible by gem collectors. Because of its crystallization, I am inclined to think that this IS the Bhismamani described in Garuda Purana? And NOT White Sapphire as originally thought of by myself, no less. Anyone???? Periclase - vitreous yellow; also a collector’s gemstone Pyrite - we call this fool’s gold; the rather metallic look comes in brass yellow or grey yellow colours; it also comes in cubes besides the isometric crystals. Pyrope - another type of garnet Rhodolite - also another type of garnet Silver Sodalite - blue, grey colours mostly interspersed with white calcite. Non transparent and can be confused with lapis lazuli and mainly used for objets d’art Spessartite - anopther type of garnet Sphalerite - yellowish brown, orange, green and colourless; also known as zinc blende. Is rather brittle. Spinel Uvarovite - emerald green colour of the garnet family and can be confused with emerald. Tetragonal - not interesting so will not list them here Hexagonal (from Bala’s Bones – ref. Padma Purana and a excerpt below) Apatite Aquamarine Beryl Coral Emerald Goshenite Heliodor - known to be radioactive and hence not recommended Morganite - blush pink quartz Others are of no interest Trigonal Agate Amethyst Blue Quartz Calcite Chalcedony Chrysoprase Citrine Cornelian *Corundum Dioptase Petrified Wood (Fossilied Wood) Rock Crystal Quartz Rose Quartz Ruby Sapphire Smoky Quartz Tiger’s Eye Tourmaline Orthorhombic Alexandrite Cat’s Eye Chrysoberyl Iolite Peridot (as recommended for debilitated Mercury) Tanzanite (mostly heat treated to obtain the blue colour) Topaz Monoclinic Jadeite Kunzite (as mentioned in Garuda Purana), colour is not stable and will fade in hot temp. countries. Moonstone Malachite Nephrite Orthoclase Serpentine Sphene Spodumene Others are of no interest Triclinic Ulexite is the most interesting and deserves a mention – it has an “eye”. When you pass the gemstone over a printed page, it magnifies the print – natures, eye lens. Amorphous Amber Chrysocolla Natural Glass/Obsidian Ivory Jet Moldavite Opal Of pure birth and penances, all his limbs became the source of gems. His bone particles that fell from Indra’s vajra became hexagonal gems. From his eyes, dropped sapphires, ruby from his ears and his blood. Pearls came from his teeth, Emeralds came from his marrow and nose, corals from his tongue and flesh. Bell metal came from his excrement, silver from his semen, copper from his urine. Brass and lustrous wealth came from the unguent of his body. From his sound, vaidurya was produced and also delectable gems. Gold was produced from his gems and mercury (quick silver) came from his blood. Sphatika (crystals) came from his marrow. Bala asura’s wife, Prabhaavatii turned into a river (the nadis) and united with parts of his body and flowed Eastward. Due to her waters, superfine gems with great brilliance were formed. Does anyone want to volunteer on the excerpts from the Garuda Purana? The formation of gemstones are variable from different parts of his body. love, Swee On 1/31/07 8:43 AM, " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani wrote:Swee Chan Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, It was actually a 7 carat Pakistani peridot. The shape and size is very similar to the picture that you have shown. The colour is of course dark green. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> Sanjay Rath [sanjayrath] Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:20 AM sohamsa RE: Chrysoberyl - Anuj/Bharat | om gurave namah | Dear Swee I got one for Sara just before our wedding. It really solves all Mercury related issues, tends to bring a lot of harmony and soothe nerves. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath’s Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:47 PM Sohamsa; Chrysoberyl - Anuj/Bharat Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anuj/Bharat, Namaste Can you tell me what your experiences with Green Chrysoberyl has been like? I am currently eyeing this one..... It does not have the chatoyancy as described by most (as we are lead to believe otherwise) but vaidurya in its better crystallised form instead of the reed/rope like inclusions that is present in a cat’s eye; which is typical of the nature of the gemstone. I have a parivatana between the 11th and the 2nd so it would seem like Mercury conjoins Ketu in the 2nd and Jupiter switches camp and joins AL Sun in the 11th. If you feel more comfortable writing to me privately, please do so as I would appreciate your inputs. Love, Swee avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000709-0, 01/30/2007 Tested on: 1/31/2007 9:11:19 AM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 ------ Forwarded Message Swee Chan <sweechan Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:42:29 +0200 Sohamsa <sohamsa > Re: Crystal Formations Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Sanjay ji et al, Namaste Firstly, we need to understand that gemstones produced on Earth from Bala asura’s body are enjoyed by pure persons due to the wealth of the collection of their religious merit (punya). Ref. Padma Purana Uttarakhanda Chapter 6 v.31 below. With regards to a planet’s negative energy which cannot be “corrected” in the vargas by a gemstone! The above reference does not require delving into which is wrongly understood by some :-). Chrysoberyl (Trigonal crystallisation akin to Sapphires) has the hardness of 8.5 and the refractive index is 1.744-1.755 with the absorption spectrum ranging from 4450 – 5040. Of course, the colour change is the one we know as Alexandrite (Orthorhombic crystallisation) . While the Cat’s Eye (orthorhombic) we recommend for Ketu comes from the same crystallization of the striation like in the vidula reed. Because of the fine parallel inclusions, the fine silver-white line (of the iris) effect is obtained not from faceting the gemstone, but in fashioning it into a cabochon. A good cabochon has a flat base. You’ll find that in order to compensate the straight iris effect of the cat’s eye, a cabochon can be fashioned rather deep/ovoid in shape which one should avoid. Description of the gemstone is described as Vaidurya which is always misrepresented as Lapis Lazuli! The testing of Vaidurya, Pushparaga etc were first expounded by Brahma and then repeated by Vyasa. In the case of Peridot which Sanjay ji recommends for a debiltated Mercury??, the hardness of Peridot is much less with 6.5 – 7 on the moh’s scale and the refractive index is also less with 1.654 – 1.69 though the absorption spectrum is similar. But the pertinent point one should bear in mind is not the hardness as we have been led to believe, but in the crystallisation of the gem or mineral. This is my understanding of the formation after reading in the Padma Purana about Bala asura’s destruction by Indra, who hoodwinked him. That the bone particles that fell from Indra’s vajra turned into hexagonal shaped gemstones. This has been the biggest hint given! We can finally categorize gemstones under their respective crystallisation and not of the hardness etc., which is just to differentiate them. CRYSTALLISATIONS Isometric Almandine - Red Garnet (red with violet tint) Cuprite - Cu2O with metallic lustre, very high refractive index. Transparent carmine red colour. (lots if fakes in the trade) Demantoid - garnet group; andradite variety of emerald green or green colour Diamond Fluorite - also called fluospar, comes in red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, nearly black and colourless Garnet - Gahnite - a zinc spinel, transparent with various intensities of blue, green and red-violet hue – a collector’s item Gold Grossular - garnet group; green, yellow, copper brown colours as in Hessonite (gomedha) Lapis Lazuli - sometimes called lazurite; composed of several minerals – augite, calcite, diopside, mica, hauynite, hornblende and pyrite. Very sensitive to pressure and high temperatures. Lazurite that is well distributed with pyrite is more preferred. Too much pyrite makes it dull looking with a greenish hue. Azurite without the pyrite is known as azurite because of its azure blue colour. Without the pyrite etc, its crystallisation is monoclinic and not isometric. **Leucite - transparent, colourless, white. A collectible by gem collectors. Because of its crystallization, I am inclined to think that this IS the Bhismamani described in Garuda Purana? And NOT White Sapphire as originally thought of by myself, no less. Anyone???? Periclase - vitreous yellow; also a collector’s gemstone Pyrite - we call this fool’s gold; the rather metallic look comes in brass yellow or grey yellow colours; it also comes in cubes besides the isometric crystals. Pyrope - another type of garnet Rhodolite - also another type of garnet Silver Sodalite - blue, grey colours mostly interspersed with white calcite. Non transparent and can be confused with lapis lazuli and mainly used for objets d’art Spessartite - anopther type of garnet Sphalerite - yellowish brown, orange, green and colourless; also known as zinc blende. Is rather brittle. Spinel Uvarovite - emerald green colour of the garnet family and can be confused with emerald. Tetragonal - not interesting so will not list them here Hexagonal (from Bala’s Bones – ref. Padma Purana and a excerpt below) Apatite Aquamarine Beryl Coral Emerald Goshenite Heliodor - known to be radioactive and hence not recommended Morganite - blush pink quartz Others are of no interest Trigonal Agate Amethyst Blue Quartz Calcite Chalcedony Chrysoprase Citrine Cornelian *Corundum Dioptase Petrified Wood (Fossilied Wood) Rock Crystal Quartz Rose Quartz Ruby Sapphire Smoky Quartz Tiger’s Eye Tourmaline Orthorhombic Alexandrite Cat’s Eye Chrysoberyl Iolite Peridot (as recommended for debilitated Mercury) Tanzanite (mostly heat treated to obtain the blue colour) Topaz Monoclinic Jadeite Kunzite (as mentioned in Garuda Purana), colour is not stable and will fade in hot temp. countries. Moonstone Malachite Nephrite Orthoclase Serpentine Sphene Spodumene Others are of no interest Triclinic Ulexite is the most interesting and deserves a mention – it has an “eye”. When you pass the gemstone over a printed page, it magnifies the print – natures, eye lens. Amorphous Amber Chrysocolla Natural Glass/Obsidian Ivory Jet Moldavite Opal Of pure birth and penances, all his limbs became the source of gems. His bone particles that fell from Indra’s vajra became hexagonal gems. From his eyes, dropped sapphires, ruby from his ears and his blood. Pearls came from his teeth, Emeralds came from his marrow and nose, corals from his tongue and flesh. Bell metal came from his excrement, silver from his semen, copper from his urine. Brass and lustrous wealth came from the unguent of his body. From his sound, vaidurya was produced and also delectable gems. Gold was produced from his gems and mercury (quick silver) came from his blood. Sphatika (crystals) came from his marrow. Bala asura’s wife, Prabhaavatii turned into a river (the nadis) and united with parts of his body and flowed Eastward. Due to her waters, superfine gems with great brilliance were formed. Does anyone want to volunteer on the excerpts from the Garuda Purana? The formation of gemstones are variable from different parts of his body. love, Swee On 1/31/07 8:43 AM, " Sarbani Sarkar Rath " <sarbani wrote:Swee Chan Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Swee, It was actually a 7 carat Pakistani peridot. The shape and size is very similar to the picture that you have shown. The colour is of course dark green. Best Regards, Sarbani Sarkar Rath http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> Sanjay Rath [sanjayrath] Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:20 AM sohamsa RE: Chrysoberyl - Anuj/Bharat | om gurave namah | Dear Swee I got one for Sara just before our wedding. It really solves all Mercury related issues, tends to bring a lot of harmony and soothe nerves. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages <http://srath.com/blog/> ¡´ Rath’s Rhapsody <http://srath.com/blog/> SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center <http://.org/> ¡´ SJCERC <http://sjcerc.com/> ¡´ JIVA <http://jiva.us/> Publications: The Jyotish Digest <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> ¡´ Sagittarius Publications <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:47 PM Sohamsa; Chrysoberyl - Anuj/Bharat Jaya Jagannatha Dear Anuj/Bharat, Namaste Can you tell me what your experiences with Green Chrysoberyl has been like? I am currently eyeing this one..... It does not have the chatoyancy as described by most (as we are lead to believe otherwise) but vaidurya in its better crystallised form instead of the reed/rope like inclusions that is present in a cat’s eye; which is typical of the nature of the gemstone. I have a parivatana between the 11th and the 2nd so it would seem like Mercury conjoins Ketu in the 2nd and Jupiter switches camp and joins AL Sun in the 11th. If you feel more comfortable writing to me privately, please do so as I would appreciate your inputs. Love, Swee avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000709-0, 01/30/2007 Tested on: 1/31/2007 9:11:19 AM avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. ------ End of Forwarded Message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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