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OM Datta Guru

Hi,

contra to sani, where sani maintains his > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of Bharvatha Ratnakara which says

"The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes defective

Rgs

SJ

 

, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Dear Gaurav,> > I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some what > more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly destroy as > it harms or harms.> > One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find out > whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out whether > the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has to find > out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right conclusion as to > which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however gives > good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.> > Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > > yobrevol wrote:> >> > Hare Rama Krsna> > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,> > > > Thank you for your continued response.> > > > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job position will > > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.> > > > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge like > > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of jupiter, > > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and which > > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the theory in > > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house occupied > > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani maintains his > > house placement but weakens his aspects)> > > > Please enlighten;> > Gaurav Jain> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, > > sharma.chandrashekhar writes:> >> > Dear Gaurav,> >> > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with> > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good Job or> > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your home,> > if away from it.> >> > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles in> > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava> > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also give> > thoughts of change of career there.> >> > Take care,> > Chandrashekhar.> >> >> > yobrevol wrote:> >> Hare Rama Krsna> >> > >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,> >> > >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to learn for> >> the learned like yourself.> >> > >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of the MD> >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th bhava> >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava and 10th> >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the 2nd> >> house, so I understand your statement about education being> >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no future> >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house> >> significations, or all get affected ?> >> > >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon (> >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I enclose> >> my details for your kind persual.> >> > >> Namaste> >> Gaurav Jain> >> 3rd July 1979> >> 6.18.30am> >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55> >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain Standard> >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar writes:> >>> >> Dear Gaurav,> >>> >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in> >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the Mahadasha> >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in> >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa. That is> >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that Jupiter> >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and the> >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over all> >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying during> >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as you> >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and> >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise interpretation> >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.> >>> >> Chandrashekhar.> >>> >> yobrevol wrote:> >>>> >>> Hare Rama Krsna> >>> > >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,> >>> > >>> Saadar Pranaam.> >>> > >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have> >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a result,> >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but also> >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.> >>> However, results so far have been not too disappointing for> >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary 2006.> >>> > >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working here?> >>> Please guide> >>> > >>> Gaurav jain> >>> > >>> > >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain> >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar writes:> >>>> >>> Dear Samarth,> >>>> >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers> >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for> >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means> >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of center,> >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet from> >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,> >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a Door.> >>>> >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is called> >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its dasha> >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter> >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological sense.> >>>> >>> Take care,> >>> Chandrashekhar.> >>>> >>> Samarth wrote:> >>>>> >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,> >>>>> >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How have> >>>> you been> >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at Jagannatha> >>>> Puri> >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of> >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though> >>>> the conference was about yogas).> >>>>> >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it was> >>>> mentioned to> >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in order to> >>>> strengthen the> >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.> >>>>> >>>> Kind Regards> >>>> Samarth> >>>>> >>>> > >>>> <%40>, Chandrashekhar> >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> >>>> >> >>>> > Dear Samarth,> >>>> >> >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to strengthen a> >>>> dosha even if> >>>> it is> >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to overcome> >>>> a dosha.> >>>> >> >>>> > Chandrashekhar.> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Samarth wrote:> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Hi Group,> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone to> >>>> strengthen the> >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is Yellow Sapphire> >>>> favorable?> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time - 6:05 PM,> >>>> Place of Birth -> >>>> > > Bangalore.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on the right> >>>> hand middle> >>>> finger.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Thanks.> >>>> > >> >>>> > > Kind Regards> >>>> > > Samarth> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>>> >>> > >>>> >> > >> > > >>

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Why quote halfway, and leave out " if Saturn aspects the 3rd and the

9th they gain strength", from the same shloka of Bhavartha Ratnakar?

This means that even harm to bhava aspected, by Saturn, is not across

board.

 

Anyway, what I quoted is from Daivagya Ranjan and known to most of

earlier generation astrologers and I am sure even Chandubhai Patel

knows that.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

suniljohn_2002 wrote:

 

 

OM Datta Guru

Hi,

contra to sani, where sani maintains his

> > house placement but weakens his aspects)

Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations '

Shloka 7 of Bharvatha Ratnakara which says

"The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by

Saturn becomes defective

Rgs

SJ

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some

what

> more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly

destroy as

> it harms or harms.

>

> One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find

out

> whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out

whether

> the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has to

find

> out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right conclusion

as to

> which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however

gives

> good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

> yobrevol wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> >

> > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> >

> > Thank you for your continued response.

> >

> > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job

position will

> > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.

> >

> > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge

like

> > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of

jupiter,

> > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and

which

> > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the

theory in

> > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house

occupied

> > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani

maintains his

> > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> >

> > Please enlighten;

> > Gaurav Jain

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard

Time,

> > sharma.chandrashekhar writes:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav,

> >

> > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with

> > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good

Job or

> > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your

home,

> > if away from it.

> >

> > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles

in

> > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava

> > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also

give

> > thoughts of change of career there.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> >

> > yobrevol wrote:

> >> Hare Rama Krsna

> >>

> >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,

> >>

> >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to

learn for

> >> the learned like yourself.

> >>

> >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of

the MD

> >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th

bhava

> >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava

and 10th

> >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the

2nd

> >> house, so I understand your statement about education

being

> >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no

future

> >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house

> >> significations, or all get affected ?

> >>

> >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon

(

> >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I

enclose

> >> my details for your kind persual.

> >>

> >> Namaste

> >> Gaurav Jain

> >> 3rd July 1979

> >> 6.18.30am

> >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain

Standard

> >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar writes:

> >>

> >> Dear Gaurav,

> >>

> >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in

> >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the

Mahadasha

> >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in

> >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa.

That is

> >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that

Jupiter

> >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and

the

> >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over

all

> >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying

during

> >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as

you

> >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and

> >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise

interpretation

> >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.

> >>

> >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >> yobrevol wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Hare Rama Krsna

> >>>

> >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,

> >>>

> >>> Saadar Pranaam.

> >>>

> >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have

> >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a

result,

> >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but

also

> >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.

> >>> However, results so far have been not too

disappointing for

> >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary

2006.

> >>>

> >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working

here?

> >>> Please guide

> >>>

> >>> Gaurav jain

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain

> >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar writes:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Samarth,

> >>>

> >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers

> >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for

> >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means

> >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of

center,

> >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet

from

> >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,

> >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a

Door.

> >>>

> >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is

called

> >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its

dasha

> >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter

> >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological

sense.

> >>>

> >>> Take care,

> >>> Chandrashekhar.

> >>>

> >>> Samarth wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,

> >>>>

> >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How

have

> >>>> you been

> >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at

Jagannatha

> >>>> Puri

> >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of

> >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though

> >>>> the conference was about yogas).

> >>>>

> >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it

was

> >>>> mentioned to

> >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in

order to

> >>>> strengthen the

> >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.

> >>>>

> >>>> Kind Regards

> >>>> Samarth

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> <%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Dear Samarth,

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to

strengthen a

> >>>> dosha even if

> >>>> it is

> >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to

overcome

> >>>> a dosha.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Chandrashekhar.

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Samarth wrote:

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Hi Group,

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone

to

> >>>> strengthen the

> >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is

Yellow Sapphire

> >>>> favorable?

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time -

6:05 PM,

> >>>> Place of Birth -

> >>>> > > Bangalore.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on

the right

> >>>> hand middle

> >>>> finger.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Thanks.

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Kind Regards

> >>>> > > Samarth

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> >

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

>

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

Only if Saturn occupies a sign owned by a malefic - the waning Moon, Mercury

that conjoins a malefic eg., Sun) and Mars or course or with Rahu or Ketu.

The 7th from it gets 100% strength from where it occupies hence we now look at 2

houses that can be afflicted by Saturn's presence. The aspects which are the 3rd

and 10th get 25% (refer to BPHS). Like that, when during the Rasi Dasa (Narayan

Dasa) of an the Sign, Aries, if is occupied by Saturn (in inimical Sign) the

7th aspect from Saturn (by the way, becomes friendly) and the 3rd and the 10th

as well becomes friendly... hence the 7th aspect is something to look forward to

during the antardasa of Libra only if it is occupied by a benefic (especially

its friend Venus). If it is empty, then basic significations are indicated.

 

BTW, which version do you have?

 

love,

 

Swee

 

 

On Sunday, November 19, 2006, at 06:29PM, " suniljohn_2002 "

<suniljohn_2002 wrote:

>

>OM Datta Guru

>

>Hi,

>

> contra to sani, where sani maintains his

>> > house placement but weakens his aspects)

>

> Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of Bharvatha

>Ratnakara which says

>

> " The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes defective

>

>Rgs

>

>SJ

>

>

>

>

> , Chandrashekhar

><sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>>

>> Dear Gaurav,

>>

>> I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some what

>> more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly destroy

>as

>> it harms or harms.

>>

>> One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find out

>> whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out

>whether

>> the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has to find

>> out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right conclusion as

>to

>> which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however gives

>> good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.

>>

>> Take care,

>> Chandrashekhar.

>>

>>

>> yobrevol wrote:

>> >

>> > Hare Rama Krsna

>> >

>> > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

>> >

>> > Thank you for your continued response.

>> >

>> > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job position will

>> > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.

>> >

>> > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge like

>> > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of

>jupiter,

>> > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and which

>> > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the theory

>in

>> > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house occupied

>> > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani maintains his

>> > house placement but weakens his aspects)

>> >

>> > Please enlighten;

>> > Gaurav Jain

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

>> > sharma.chandrashekhar writes:

>> >

>> > Dear Gaurav,

>> >

>> > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with

>> > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good Job or

>> > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your home,

>> > if away from it.

>> >

>> > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles in

>> > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava

>> > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also give

>> > thoughts of change of career there.

>> >

>> > Take care,

>> > Chandrashekhar.

>> >

>> >

>> > yobrevol wrote:

>> >> Hare Rama Krsna

>> >>

>> >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,

>> >>

>> >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to learn for

>> >> the learned like yourself.

>> >>

>> >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of the MD

>> >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th bhava

>> >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava and 10th

>> >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the 2nd

>> >> house, so I understand your statement about education being

>> >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no future

>> >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house

>> >> significations, or all get affected ?

>> >>

>> >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon (

>> >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I enclose

>> >> my details for your kind persual.

>> >>

>> >> Namaste

>> >> Gaurav Jain

>> >> 3rd July 1979

>> >> 6.18.30am

>> >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain Standard

>> >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar writes:

>> >>

>> >> Dear Gaurav,

>> >>

>> >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in

>> >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the Mahadasha

>> >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in

>> >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa. That is

>> >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that Jupiter

>> >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and the

>> >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over all

>> >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying during

>> >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as you

>> >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and

>> >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise interpretation

>> >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.

>> >>

>> >> Chandrashekhar.

>> >>

>> >> yobrevol wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>> Hare Rama Krsna

>> >>>

>> >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,

>> >>>

>> >>> Saadar Pranaam.

>> >>>

>> >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have

>> >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a result,

>> >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but also

>> >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.

>> >>> However, results so far have been not too disappointing for

>> >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary 2006.

>> >>>

>> >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working here?

>> >>> Please guide

>> >>>

>> >>> Gaurav jain

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain

>> >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar writes:

>> >>>

>> >>> Dear Samarth,

>> >>>

>> >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers

>> >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for

>> >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means

>> >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of center,

>> >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet from

>> >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,

>> >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a Door.

>> >>>

>> >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is called

>> >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its dasha

>> >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter

>> >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological sense.

>> >>>

>> >>> Take care,

>> >>> Chandrashekhar.

>> >>>

>> >>> Samarth wrote:

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How have

>> >>>> you been

>> >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at Jagannatha

>> >>>> Puri

>> >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of

>> >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though

>> >>>> the conference was about yogas).

>> >>>>

>> >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it was

>> >>>> mentioned to

>> >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in order to

>> >>>> strengthen the

>> >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Kind Regards

>> >>>> Samarth

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

>> >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> > Dear Samarth,

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to strengthen a

>> >>>> dosha even if

>> >>>> it is

>> >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to overcome

>> >>>> a dosha.

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> > Chandrashekhar.

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> > Samarth wrote:

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > > Hi Group,

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone to

>> >>>> strengthen the

>> >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is Yellow Sapphire

>> >>>> favorable?

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time - 6:05 PM,

>> >>>> Place of Birth -

>> >>>> > > Bangalore.

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on the right

>> >>>> hand middle

>> >>>> finger.

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > > Thanks.

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > > Kind Regards

>> >>>> > > Samarth

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> > >

>> >>>> >

>> >>>>

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

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Om Datta Guru

Dear Swee,

I have Ramans version

best

SJ

 

, Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Sunil,> Namaste> > Only if Saturn occupies a sign owned by a malefic - the waning Moon, Mercury that conjoins a malefic eg., Sun) and Mars or course or with Rahu or Ketu.> The 7th from it gets 100% strength from where it occupies hence we now look at 2 houses that can be afflicted by Saturn's presence. The aspects which are the 3rd and 10th get 25% (refer to BPHS). Like that, when during the Rasi Dasa (Narayan Dasa) of an the Sign, Aries, if is occupied by Saturn (in inimical Sign) the 7th aspect from Saturn (by the way, becomes friendly) and the 3rd and the 10th as well becomes friendly... hence the 7th aspect is something to look forward to during the antardasa of Libra only if it is occupied by a benefic (especially its friend Venus). If it is empty, then basic significations are indicated.> > BTW, which version do you have?> > love,> > Swee> > > On Sunday, November 19, 2006, at 06:29PM, "suniljohn_2002" suniljohn_2002 wrote:> >> >OM Datta Guru> >> >Hi,> >> > contra to sani, where sani maintains his> >> > house placement but weakens his aspects)> >> > Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of Bharvatha> >Ratnakara which says> >> >"The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes defective> >> >Rgs> >> >SJ> >> >> >> >> > , Chandrashekhar> >sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> >>> >> Dear Gaurav,> >>> >> I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some what> >> more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly destroy> >as> >> it harms or harms.> >>> >> One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find out> >> whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out> >whether> >> the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has to find> >> out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right conclusion as> >to> >> which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however gives> >> good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.> >>> >> Take care,> >> Chandrashekhar.> >>> >>> >> yobrevol@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Hare Rama Krsna> >> >> >> > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,> >> >> >> > Thank you for your continued response.> >> >> >> > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job position will> >> > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.> >> >> >> > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge like> >> > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of> >jupiter,> >> > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and which> >> > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the theory> >in> >> > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house occupied> >> > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani maintains his> >> > house placement but weakens his aspects)> >> >> >> > Please enlighten;> >> > Gaurav Jain> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,> >> > sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> >> >> >> > Dear Gaurav,> >> >> >> > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with> >> > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good Job or> >> > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your home,> >> > if away from it.> >> >> >> > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles in> >> > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava> >> > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also give> >> > thoughts of change of career there.> >> >> >> > Take care,> >> > Chandrashekhar.> >> >> >> >> >> > yobrevol@ wrote:> >> >> Hare Rama Krsna> >> >>> >> >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,> >> >>> >> >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to learn for> >> >> the learned like yourself.> >> >>> >> >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of the MD> >> >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th bhava> >> >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava and 10th> >> >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the 2nd> >> >> house, so I understand your statement about education being> >> >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no future> >> >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house> >> >> significations, or all get affected ?> >> >>> >> >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon (> >> >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I enclose> >> >> my details for your kind persual.> >> >>> >> >> Namaste> >> >> Gaurav Jain> >> >> 3rd July 1979> >> >> 6.18.30am> >> >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain Standard> >> >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> >> >>> >> >> Dear Gaurav,> >> >>> >> >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in> >> >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the Mahadasha> >> >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in> >> >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa. That is> >> >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that Jupiter> >> >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and the> >> >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over all> >> >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying during> >> >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as you> >> >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and> >> >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise interpretation> >> >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.> >> >>> >> >> Chandrashekhar.> >> >>> >> >> yobrevol@ wrote:> >> >>>> >> >>> Hare Rama Krsna> >> >>>> >> >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,> >> >>>> >> >>> Saadar Pranaam.> >> >>>> >> >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have> >> >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a result,> >> >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but also> >> >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.> >> >>> However, results so far have been not too disappointing for> >> >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary 2006.> >> >>>> >> >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working here?> >> >>> Please guide> >> >>>> >> >>> Gaurav jain> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain> >> >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> >> >>>> >> >>> Dear Samarth,> >> >>>> >> >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers> >> >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for> >> >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means> >> >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of center,> >> >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet from> >> >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,> >> >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a Door.> >> >>>> >> >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is called> >> >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its dasha> >> >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter> >> >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological sense.> >> >>>> >> >>> Take care,> >> >>> Chandrashekhar.> >> >>>> >> >>> Samarth wrote:> >> >>>>> >> >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,> >> >>>>> >> >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How have> >> >>>> you been> >> >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at Jagannatha> >> >>>> Puri> >> >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of> >> >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though> >> >>>> the conference was about yogas).> >> >>>>> >> >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it was> >> >>>> mentioned to> >> >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in order to> >> >>>> strengthen the> >> >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.> >> >>>>> >> >>>> Kind Regards> >> >>>> Samarth> >> >>>>> >> >>>> > >> >>>> <%40>, Chandrashekhar> >> >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > Dear Samarth,> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to strengthen a> >> >>>> dosha even if> >> >>>> it is> >> >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to overcome> >> >>>> a dosha.> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > Chandrashekhar.> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > Samarth wrote:> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > > Hi Group,> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone to> >> >>>> strengthen the> >> >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is Yellow Sapphire> >> >>>> favorable?> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time - 6:05 PM,> >> >>>> Place of Birth -> >> >>>> > > Bangalore.> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on the right> >> >>>> hand middle> >> >>>> finger.> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > > Thanks.> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > > Kind Regards> >> >>>> > > Samarth> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>

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Om Datta Guru

Who said I am quoting half way or half the shloka, in Ramans translation of Bharvata Ratnakara Chapter 13 the shloka I quoted is Shloka 7, whereas the shloka u are quoting is shloka No 8, maybe we are using versions of different translators.

A) I wasn't commenting on what u wrote, I hardly read mails on website, I had copied the exact words from Gaurav Jains email & posted the views of BR (Bhavartha Ratnakara)

B) I have been thinking from some time as to why Sats aspect on the3rd & 9th houses is not harmful rather strengthening, not getting a clear answer, good u reminded me of my query.

C) Coming back to my mail it was to present a different view of Ramanuja compared to Jains mail that according to BR Shani does spoil the Bhava it is placed in.

SJ

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Why quote halfway, and leave out " if Saturn aspects the 3rd and the 9th > they gain strength", from the same shloka of Bhavartha Ratnakar? This > means that even harm to bhava aspected, by Saturn, is not across board.> > Anyway, what I quoted is from Daivagya Ranjan and known to most of > earlier generation astrologers and I am sure even Chandubhai Patel knows > that.> > Chandrashekhar.> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:> >> > OM Datta Guru> >> > Hi,> >> > contra to sani, where sani maintains his> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)> >> > Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of Bharvatha > > Ratnakara which says> >> > "The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes defective> >> > Rgs> >> > SJ> >> > > >> >> > , Chandrashekhar > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some what> > > more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly destroy as> > > it harms or harms.> > >> > > One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find out> > > whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out whether> > > the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has to find> > > out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right conclusion > > as to> > > which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however gives> > > good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.> > >> > > Take care,> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > >> > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > >> > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,> > > >> > > > Thank you for your continued response.> > > >> > > > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job position will> > > > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.> > > >> > > > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge like> > > > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of jupiter,> > > > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and which> > > > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the > > theory in> > > > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house occupied> > > > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani maintains his> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)> > > >> > > > Please enlighten;> > > > Gaurav Jain> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,> > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> > > >> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > >> > > > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with> > > > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good Job or> > > > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your home,> > > > if away from it.> > > >> > > > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles in> > > > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava> > > > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also give> > > > thoughts of change of career there.> > > >> > > > Take care,> > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > >> > > >> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >> Hare Rama Krsna> > > >>> > > >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,> > > >>> > > >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to learn for> > > >> the learned like yourself.> > > >>> > > >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of the MD> > > >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th bhava> > > >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava and 10th> > > >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the 2nd> > > >> house, so I understand your statement about education being> > > >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no future> > > >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house> > > >> significations, or all get affected ?> > > >>> > > >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon (> > > >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I enclose> > > >> my details for your kind persual.> > > >>> > > >> Namaste> > > >> Gaurav Jain> > > >> 3rd July 1979> > > >> 6.18.30am> > > >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain Standard> > > >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> > > >>> > > >> Dear Gaurav,> > > >>> > > >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in> > > >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the Mahadasha> > > >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in> > > >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa. That is> > > >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that Jupiter> > > >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and the> > > >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over all> > > >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying during> > > >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as you> > > >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and> > > >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise interpretation> > > >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.> > > >>> > > >> Chandrashekhar.> > > >>> > > >> yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >>>> > > >>> Hare Rama Krsna> > > >>>> > > >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,> > > >>>> > > >>> Saadar Pranaam.> > > >>>> > > >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have> > > >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a result,> > > >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but also> > > >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.> > > >>> However, results so far have been not too disappointing for> > > >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary 2006.> > > >>>> > > >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working here?> > > >>> Please guide> > > >>>> > > >>> Gaurav jain> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain> > > >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> > > >>>> > > >>> Dear Samarth,> > > >>>> > > >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers> > > >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for> > > >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means> > > >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of center,> > > >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet from> > > >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,> > > >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a Door.> > > >>>> > > >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is called> > > >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its dasha> > > >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter> > > >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological sense.> > > >>>> > > >>> Take care,> > > >>> Chandrashekhar.> > > >>>> > > >>> Samarth wrote:> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How have> > > >>>> you been> > > >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at Jagannatha> > > >>>> Puri> > > >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of> > > >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though> > > >>>> the conference was about yogas).> > > >>>>> > > >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it was> > > >>>> mentioned to> > > >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in order to> > > >>>> strengthen the> > > >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Kind Regards> > > >>>> Samarth> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> <%40>, Chandrashekhar> > > >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Dear Samarth,> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to strengthen a> > > >>>> dosha even if> > > >>>> it is> > > >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to overcome> > > >>>> a dosha.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Chandrashekhar.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Samarth wrote:> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Hi Group,> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone to> > > >>>> strengthen the> > > >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is Yellow Sapphire> > > >>>> favorable?> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time - 6:05 PM,> > > >>>> Place of Birth -> > > >>>> > > Bangalore.> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on the right> > > >>>> hand middle> > > >>>> finger.> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Thanks.> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Kind Regards> > > >>>> > > Samarth> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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I see.

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

suniljohn_2002 wrote:

 

 

Om Datta Guru

Who said I am quoting half way or half the

shloka, in Ramans translation of Bharvata Ratnakara Chapter 13 the

shloka I quoted is Shloka 7, whereas the shloka u are quoting is shloka

No 8, maybe we are using versions of different

translators.

A) I wasn't commenting on

what u wrote, I hardly read mails on website, I had copied the exact

words from Gaurav Jains email & posted the views of BR (Bhavartha

Ratnakara)

B) I have been thinking from some time as to

why Sats aspect on the3rd & 9th houses is not harmful rather

strengthening, not getting a clear answer, good u reminded me of my

query.

C) Coming back to my mail it was to present

a different view of Ramanuja compared to Jains mail that according to

BR Shani does spoil the Bhava it is placed in.

SJ

 

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Why quote halfway, and leave out " if Saturn aspects the 3rd and

the 9th

> they gain strength", from the same shloka of Bhavartha Ratnakar?

This

> means that even harm to bhava aspected, by Saturn, is not across

board.

>

> Anyway, what I quoted is from Daivagya Ranjan and known to most of

 

> earlier generation astrologers and I am sure even Chandubhai Patel

knows

> that.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> >

> > OM Datta Guru

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > contra to sani, where sani maintains his

> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> >

> > Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of

Bharvatha

> > Ratnakara which says

> >

> > "The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes

defective

> >

> > Rgs

> >

> > SJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Chandrashekhar

> > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gaurav,

> > >

> > > I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be

for some what

> > > more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not

exactly destroy as

> > > it harms or harms.

> > >

> > > One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also

to find out

> > > whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to

find out whether

> > > the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell

one has to find

> > > out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right

conclusion

> > as to

> > > which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars

however gives

> > > good wealth, though, individually both are not good in

the 2nd.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your continued response.

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my

job position will

> > > > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.

> > > >

> > > > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of

knowledge like

> > > > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house

placement of jupiter,

> > > > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get

spoilt and which

> > > > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? (

keeping the

> > theory in

> > > > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of

the house occupied

> > > > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where

sani maintains his

> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> > > >

> > > > Please enlighten;

> > > > Gaurav Jain

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M.

Mountain Standard Time,

> > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > >

> > > > It appears your birth time has been rectified.

Anyway, with

> > > > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get

some good Job or

> > > > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel

to your home,

> > > > if away from it.

> > > >

> > > > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some

obstacles in

> > > > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to

harm the Bhava

> > > > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He

can also give

> > > > thoughts of change of career there.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > >> Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >>

> > > >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,

> > > >>

> > > >> Thank you for your response. It is always a

delight to learn for

> > > >> the learned like yourself.

> > > >>

> > > >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good,

the rest of the MD

> > > >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is

transiting my 6th bhava

> > > >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides

12h bhava and 10th

> > > >> bhava. Education is one of the many

significations of the 2nd

> > > >> house, so I understand your statement about

education being

> > > >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's,

with no future

> > > >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd

house

> > > >> significations, or all get affected ?

> > > >>

> > > >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9

lagna), moon (

> > > >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in

navamsa. I enclose

> > > >> my details for your kind persual.

> > > >>

> > > >> Namaste

> > > >> Gaurav Jain

> > > >> 3rd July 1979

> > > >> 6.18.30am

> > > >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M.

Mountain Standard

> > > >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > >>

> > > >> Dear Gaurav,

> > > >>

> > > >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's

Antar dasha in

> > > >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if

the Mahadasha

> > > >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the

same graha in

> > > >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and

vise-a-versa. That is

> > > >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find

that Jupiter

> > > >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the

lagna and the

> > > >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or

father the over all

> > > >> results should be good. Of course if you were

studying during

> > > >> that time the results would be somewhat

erratic. But as you

> > > >> know so much depends on the position of other

grahaas and

> > > >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise

interpretation

> > > >> without taking them into consideration is a bit

difficult.

> > > >>

> > > >> Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>

> > > >> yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Saadar Pranaam.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since

I also have

> > > >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house.

So as a result,

> > > >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable

sign but also

> > > >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.

> > > >>> However, results so far have been not too

disappointing for

> > > >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in

Janurary 2006.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's

working here?

> > > >>> Please guide

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Gaurav jain

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M.

Mountain

> > > >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@

writes:

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Dear Samarth,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days

astrologers

> > > >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange

meaning, for

> > > >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra

means

> > > >>> center, the squares in a chart, the

equation of center,

> > > >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a

planet from

> > > >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth

, seventh ,

> > > >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but

certainly not a Door.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish

that is called

> > > >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says

that its dasha

> > > >>> will not give good results. So

strengthening Jupiter

> > > >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make

astrological sense.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Take care,

> > > >>> Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Samarth wrote:

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Its been long having communicated with

you. How have

> > > >>>> you been

> > > >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation

was at Jagannatha

> > > >>>> Puri

> > > >>>> conference on the topic of the

importance of

> > > >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though

> > > >>>> the conference was about yogas).

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs

where in it was

> > > >>>> mentioned to

> > > >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra

lord in order to

> > > >>>> strengthen the

> > > >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Kind Regards

> > > >>>> Samarth

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> <%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > > >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Dear Samarth,

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Could let me know why would you

want to strengthen a

> > > >>>> dosha even if

> > > >>>> it is

> > > >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would

normally want to overcome

> > > >>>> a dosha.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Samarth wrote:

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Hi Group,

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a

gemstone to

> > > >>>> strengthen the

> > > >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my

chart. Is Yellow Sapphire

> > > >>>> favorable?

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April

1982, time - 6:05 PM,

> > > >>>> Place of Birth -

> > > >>>> > > Bangalore.

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue

sapphire on the right

> > > >>>> hand middle

> > > >>>> finger.

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Thanks.

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Kind Regards

> > > >>>> > > Samarth

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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A typo?????

 

B) . . . . . Sats aspect on the3rd & 9th houses . . . . . .

 

- Shailesh

 

 

-

Chandrashekhar

Monday, November 20, 2006 11:05 PM

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Bhavartha Ratnakara on Sanis placement

 

 

I see.Chandrashekhar.suniljohn_2002 wrote:

 

Om Datta Guru

Who said I am quoting half way or half the shloka, in Ramans translation of Bharvata Ratnakara Chapter 13 the shloka I quoted is Shloka 7, whereas the shloka u are quoting is shloka No 8, maybe we are using versions of different translators.

A) I wasn't commenting on what u wrote, I hardly read mails on website, I had copied the exact words from Gaurav Jains email & posted the views of BR (Bhavartha Ratnakara)

B) I have been thinking from some time as to why Sats aspect on the3rd & 9th houses is not harmful rather strengthening, not getting a clear answer, good u reminded me of my query.

C) Coming back to my mail it was to present a different view of Ramanuja compared to Jains mail that according to BR Shani does spoil the Bhava it is placed in.

SJ

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:>> Why quote halfway, and leave out " if Saturn aspects the 3rd and the 9th > they gain strength", from the same shloka of Bhavartha Ratnakar? This > means that even harm to bhava aspected, by Saturn, is not across board.> > Anyway, what I quoted is from Daivagya Ranjan and known to most of > earlier generation astrologers and I am sure even Chandubhai Patel knows > that.> > Chandrashekhar.> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:> >> > OM Datta Guru> >> > Hi,> >> > contra to sani, where sani maintains his> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)> >> > Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of Bharvatha > > Ratnakara which says> >> > "The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes defective> >> > Rgs> >> > SJ> >> > > >> >> > , Chandrashekhar > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some what> > > more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly destroy as> > > it harms or harms.> > >> > > One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find out> > > whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out whether> > > the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has to find> > > out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right conclusion > > as to> > > which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however gives> > > good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.> > >> > > Take care,> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > >> > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna> > > >> > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,> > > >> > > > Thank you for your continued response.> > > >> > > > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job position will> > > > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.> > > >> > > > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge like> > > > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of jupiter,> > > > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and which> > > > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the > > theory in> > > > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house occupied> > > > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani maintains his> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)> > > >> > > > Please enlighten;> > > > Gaurav Jain> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,> > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> > > >> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > >> > > > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with> > > > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good Job or> > > > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your home,> > > > if away from it.> > > >> > > > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles in> > > > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava> > > > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also give> > > > thoughts of change of career there.> > > >> > > > Take care,> > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > >> > > >> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >> Hare Rama Krsna> > > >>> > > >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,> > > >>> > > >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to learn for> > > >> the learned like yourself.> > > >>> > > >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of the MD> > > >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th bhava> > > >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava and 10th> > > >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the 2nd> > > >> house, so I understand your statement about education being> > > >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no future> > > >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house> > > >> significations, or all get affected ?> > > >>> > > >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon (> > > >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I enclose> > > >> my details for your kind persual.> > > >>> > > >> Namaste> > > >> Gaurav Jain> > > >> 3rd July 1979> > > >> 6.18.30am> > > >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain Standard> > > >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> > > >>> > > >> Dear Gaurav,> > > >>> > > >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in> > > >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the Mahadasha> > > >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in> > > >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa. That is> > > >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that Jupiter> > > >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and the> > > >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over all> > > >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying during> > > >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as you> > > >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and> > > >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise interpretation> > > >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.> > > >>> > > >> Chandrashekhar.> > > >>> > > >> yobrevol@ wrote:> > > >>>> > > >>> Hare Rama Krsna> > > >>>> > > >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,> > > >>>> > > >>> Saadar Pranaam.> > > >>>> > > >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have> > > >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a result,> > > >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but also> > > >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.> > > >>> However, results so far have been not too disappointing for> > > >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary 2006.> > > >>>> > > >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working here?> > > >>> Please guide> > > >>>> > > >>> Gaurav jain> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain> > > >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:> > > >>>> > > >>> Dear Samarth,> > > >>>> > > >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers> > > >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for> > > >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means> > > >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of center,> > > >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet from> > > >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,> > > >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a Door.> > > >>>> > > >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is called> > > >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its dasha> > > >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter> > > >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological sense.> > > >>>> > > >>> Take care,> > > >>> Chandrashekhar.> > > >>>> > > >>> Samarth wrote:> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How have> > > >>>> you been> > > >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at Jagannatha> > > >>>> Puri> > > >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of> > > >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though> > > >>>> the conference was about yogas).> > > >>>>> > > >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it was> > > >>>> mentioned to> > > >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in order to> > > >>>> strengthen the> > > >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Kind Regards> > > >>>> Samarth> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > > >>>> <%40>, Chandrashekhar> > > >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Dear Samarth,> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to strengthen a> > > >>>> dosha even if> > > >>>> it is> > > >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to overcome> > > >>>> a dosha.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Chandrashekhar.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Samarth wrote:> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Hi Group,> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone to> > > >>>> strengthen the> > > >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is Yellow Sapphire> > > >>>> favorable?> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time - 6:05 PM,> > > >>>> Place of Birth -> > > >>>> > > Bangalore.> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on the right> > > >>>> hand middle> > > >>>> finger.> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Thanks.> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > Kind Regards> > > >>>> > > Samarth> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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OM Datta Guru

 

Dear Shailesh bhai,

 

Typo of ??

 

Rgds,

 

SJ

 

 

, " Shailesh C Chadha " <scchadha

wrote:

>

> A typo?????

>

> B) . . . . . Sats aspect on the3rd & 9th houses . . . . . .

>

> - Shailesh

>

> -

> Chandrashekhar

>

> Monday, November 20, 2006 11:05 PM

> Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Bhavartha Ratnakara on Sanis placement

>

>

> I see.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

> suniljohn_2002 wrote:

>

> Om Datta Guru

>

> Who said I am quoting half way or half the shloka, in Ramans

translation of Bharvata Ratnakara Chapter 13 the shloka I quoted is

Shloka 7, whereas the shloka u are quoting is shloka No 8, maybe we are

using versions of different translators.

>

> A) I wasn't commenting on what u wrote, I hardly read mails on

website, I had copied the exact words from Gaurav Jains email & posted

the views of BR (Bhavartha Ratnakara)

>

> B) I have been thinking from some time as to why Sats aspect on the3rd

& 9th houses is not harmful rather strengthening, not getting a clear

answer, good u reminded me of my query.

>

> C) Coming back to my mail it was to present a different view of

Ramanuja compared to Jains mail that according to BR Shani does spoil

the Bhava it is placed in.

>

> SJ

>

>

, Chandrashekhar

sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> >

> > Why quote halfway, and leave out " if Saturn aspects the 3rd and the

9th

> > they gain strength " , from the same shloka of Bhavartha Ratnakar?

This

> > means that even harm to bhava aspected, by Saturn, is not across

board.

> >

> > Anyway, what I quoted is from Daivagya Ranjan and known to most of

> > earlier generation astrologers and I am sure even Chandubhai Patel

knows

> > that.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> > >

> > > OM Datta Guru

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > contra to sani, where sani maintains his

> > > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> > >

> > > Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of Bharvatha

> > > Ratnakara which says

> > >

> > > " The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes

defective

> > >

> > > Rgs

> > >

> > > SJ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Chandrashekhar

> > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > >

> > > > I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be for some

what

> > > > more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not exactly

destroy as

> > > > it harms or harms.

> > > >

> > > > One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also to find

out

> > > > whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to find out

whether

> > > > the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell one has

to find

> > > > out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right

conclusion

> > > as to

> > > > which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars however

gives

> > > > good wealth, though, individually both are not good in the 2nd.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for your continued response.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my job

position will

> > > > > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of knowledge

like

> > > > > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house placement of

jupiter,

> > > > > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get spoilt and

which

> > > > > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? ( keeping the

> > > theory in

> > > > > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of the house

occupied

> > > > > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where sani maintains

his

> > > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> > > > >

> > > > > Please enlighten;

> > > > > Gaurav Jain

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M. Mountain Standard

Time,

> > > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > > >

> > > > > It appears your birth time has been rectified. Anyway, with

> > > > > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get some good Job

or

> > > > > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel to your

home,

> > > > > if away from it.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some obstacles

in

> > > > > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to harm the Bhava

> > > > > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He can also

give

> > > > > thoughts of change of career there.

> > > > >

> > > > > Take care,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > >> Hare Rama Krsna

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Thank you for your response. It is always a delight to learn

for

> > > > >> the learned like yourself.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good, the rest of the

MD

> > > > >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is transiting my 6th

bhava

> > > > >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides 12h bhava and

10th

> > > > >> bhava. Education is one of the many significations of the 2nd

> > > > >> house, so I understand your statement about education being

> > > > >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's, with no future

> > > > >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd house

> > > > >> significations, or all get affected ?

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9 lagna), moon (

> > > > >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in navamsa. I

enclose

> > > > >> my details for your kind persual.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Namaste

> > > > >> Gaurav Jain

> > > > >> 3rd July 1979

> > > > >> 6.18.30am

> > > > >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M. Mountain Standard

> > > > >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Dear Gaurav,

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's Antar dasha in

> > > > >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if the Mahadasha

> > > > >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the same graha in

> > > > >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and vise-a-versa. That is

> > > > >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find that Jupiter

> > > > >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the lagna and the

> > > > >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or father the over all

> > > > >> results should be good. Of course if you were studying during

> > > > >> that time the results would be somewhat erratic. But as you

> > > > >> know so much depends on the position of other grahaas and

> > > > >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise interpretation

> > > > >> without taking them into consideration is a bit difficult.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Hare Rama Krsna

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Saadar Pranaam.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since I also have

> > > > >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house. So as a result,

> > > > >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable sign but also

> > > > >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.

> > > > >>> However, results so far have been not too disappointing for

> > > > >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in Janurary 2006.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's working here?

> > > > >>> Please guide

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Gaurav jain

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M. Mountain

> > > > >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Dear Samarth,

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days astrologers

> > > > >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange meaning, for

> > > > >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra means

> > > > >>> center, the squares in a chart, the equation of center,

> > > > >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a planet from

> > > > >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth , seventh ,

> > > > >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but certainly not a Door.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish that is called

> > > > >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says that its dasha

> > > > >>> will not give good results. So strengthening Jupiter

> > > > >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make astrological sense.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Take care,

> > > > >>> Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Samarth wrote:

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Its been long having communicated with you. How have

> > > > >>>> you been

> > > > >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation was at Jagannatha

> > > > >>>> Puri

> > > > >>>> conference on the topic of the importance of

> > > > >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though

> > > > >>>> the conference was about yogas).

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs where in it was

> > > > >>>> mentioned to

> > > > >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra lord in order to

> > > > >>>> strengthen the

> > > > >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> Kind Regards

> > > > >>>> Samarth

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > Dear Samarth,

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > Could let me know why would you want to strengthen a

> > > > >>>> dosha even if

> > > > >>>> it is

> > > > >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would normally want to overcome

> > > > >>>> a dosha.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > Samarth wrote:

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > > Hi Group,

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a gemstone to

> > > > >>>> strengthen the

> > > > >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my chart. Is Yellow Sapphire

> > > > >>>> favorable?

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April 1982, time - 6:05 PM,

> > > > >>>> Place of Birth -

> > > > >>>> > > Bangalore.

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue sapphire on the right

> > > > >>>> hand middle

> > > > >>>> finger.

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > > Thanks.

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > > Kind Regards

> > > > >>>> > > Samarth

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> > >

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>

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Dear Shailesh,

No it is indeed 3rd and 9th. Personally, I think the author is talking

about the 3rd aspect of Saturn from Lagna and 7th house respectively.

Chandrashekhar.

 

Shailesh C Chadha wrote:

 

 

 

A typo?????

 

B) . . . . . Sats aspect on the3rd &

9th houses . . . . . .

 

- Shailesh

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

Chandrashekhar

To:

 

 

Sent:

Monday, November 20, 2006 11:05 PM

Subject:

Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Bhavartha Ratnakara on Sanis placement

 

 

 

I see.

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

suniljohn_2002 wrote:

 

 

Om Datta Guru

Who said I am quoting half way or half

the shloka, in Ramans translation of Bharvata Ratnakara Chapter 13 the

shloka I quoted is Shloka 7, whereas the shloka u are quoting is shloka

No 8, maybe we are using versions of different

translators.

A) I wasn't commenting

on what u wrote, I hardly read mails on website, I had copied the exact

words from Gaurav Jains email & posted the views of BR (Bhavartha

Ratnakara)

B) I have been thinking from some time

as to why Sats aspect on the3rd & 9th houses is not harmful rather

strengthening, not getting a clear answer, good u reminded me of my

query.

C) Coming back to my mail it was to

present a different view of Ramanuja compared to Jains mail that

according to BR Shani does spoil the Bhava it is placed in.

SJ

 

 

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Why quote halfway, and leave out " if Saturn aspects the 3rd and

the 9th

> they gain strength", from the same shloka of Bhavartha Ratnakar?

This

> means that even harm to bhava aspected, by Saturn, is not across

board.

>

> Anyway, what I quoted is from Daivagya Ranjan and known to most of

 

> earlier generation astrologers and I am sure even Chandubhai Patel

knows

> that.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> suniljohn_2002 wrote:

> >

> > OM Datta Guru

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > contra to sani, where sani maintains his

> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> >

> > Chapter 13- Titled 'Ordinary Combinations ' Shloka 7 of

Bharvatha

> > Ratnakara which says

> >

> > "The house which is OCCUPIED or aspected by Saturn becomes

defective

> >

> > Rgs

> >

> > SJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Chandrashekhar

> > sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gaurav,

> > >

> > > I am a student of astrology like everybody else, may be

for some what

> > > more number of years. In case of Jupiter it does not

exactly destroy as

> > > it harms or harms.

> > >

> > > One must check the position of the lord of the 2nd also

to find out

> > > whether the family is going to be affected, the 5th to

find out whether

> > > the Vidya will be affected and so on. So in a nutshell

one has to find

> > > out corroborative matters that can lead us to the right

conclusion

> > as to

> > > which area Guru is likely to harm. Guru in 2nd with Mars

however gives

> > > good wealth, though, individually both are not good in

the 2nd.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your continued response.

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely correct, as (hopefully) soon my

job position will

> > > > be moved to Bangkok which is closer to home.

> > > >

> > > > What I wish to learn as a student from the ocean of

knowledge like

> > > > yourself sir is, how to judge, with a 2nd house

placement of jupiter,

> > > > that which significations ( of 2nd house) will get

spoilt and which

> > > > will flourish. Or all get negatively affected? (

keeping the

> > theory in

> > > > mind that jupiter destroys the significations of

the house occupied

> > > > and his aspects flourish, contra to sani, where

sani maintains his

> > > > house placement but weakens his aspects)

> > > >

> > > > Please enlighten;

> > > > Gaurav Jain

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:32:55 A.M.

Mountain Standard Time,

> > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > >

> > > > It appears your birth time has been rectified.

Anyway, with

> > > > Jupiter in the 6th it is likely that you can get

some good Job or

> > > > good prospects therein. You may even have to travel

to your home,

> > > > if away from it.

> > > >

> > > > By the way the reason of Jupiter in 5th giving some

obstacles in

> > > > study has to do with the tendency of Jupiter to

harm the Bhava

> > > > occupied and 5th is the bhava of higher studies. He

can also give

> > > > thoughts of change of career there.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > >> Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >>

> > > >> Namaste Chandrashekar ji,

> > > >>

> > > >> Thank you for your response. It is always a

delight to learn for

> > > >> the learned like yourself.

> > > >>

> > > >> So, I conclude that if Jup/Jup is going good,

the rest of the MD

> > > >> indications are not so rosy. Jupiter is

transiting my 6th bhava

> > > >> sir, aspecting natal jupiter and HL, besides

12h bhava and 10th

> > > >> bhava. Education is one of the many

significations of the 2nd

> > > >> house, so I understand your statement about

education being

> > > >> affected. I have a basic education anyway's,

with no future

> > > >> plans. Jupiter will give results for other 2nd

house

> > > >> significations, or all get affected ?

> > > >>

> > > >> Jupiter is in saggitarius navamsa ( tarus D9

lagna), moon (

> > > >> jupiter's rasi despositor) is in own house in

navamsa. I enclose

> > > >> my details for your kind persual.

> > > >>

> > > >> Namaste

> > > >> Gaurav Jain

> > > >> 3rd July 1979

> > > >> 6.18.30am

> > > >> 75 E 49 & 26 N 55

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:27:29 P.M.

Mountain Standard

> > > >> Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@ writes:

> > > >>

> > > >> Dear Gaurav,

> > > >>

> > > >> Remember that Parashara says that a graha's

Antar dasha in

> > > >> its own Mahadasha gives contra results. So, if

the Mahadasha

> > > >> is likely to be good the antar dasha of the

same graha in

> > > >> that Mahadasha will be not good/bad and

vise-a-versa. That is

> > > >> what you are experiencing. Again you will find

that Jupiter

> > > >> in transit is in your 5th bhava aspecting the

lagna and the

> > > >> 9th so bodily and with respect to boos or

father the over all

> > > >> results should be good. Of course if you were

studying during

> > > >> that time the results would be somewhat

erratic. But as you

> > > >> know so much depends on the position of other

grahaas and

> > > >> navamsha strength of grahas that very precise

interpretation

> > > >> without taking them into consideration is a bit

difficult.

> > > >>

> > > >> Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>

> > > >> yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Namaste Sri. Chandrashekher ji,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Saadar Pranaam.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I couldn't help but notice your mail since

I also have

> > > >>> gemini lagna with jupiter in the 2nd house.

So as a result,

> > > >>> jupiter is not only bhadhaka in a movable

sign but also

> > > >>> suffers from a kendraadhipati dosha.

> > > >>> However, results so far have been not too

disappointing for

> > > >>> me since the start of Jupiter Mahadasa in

Janurary 2006.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Are their any finer insights into jupiter's

working here?

> > > >>> Please guide

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Gaurav jain

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:46:47 A.M.

Mountain

> > > >>> Standard Time, sharma.chandrashekhar@

writes:

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Dear Samarth,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Nice to know you remember me. These days

astrologers

> > > >>> seem to be bent upon creating strange

meaning, for

> > > >>> Sanskrit words, where there is none. Kendra

means

> > > >>> center, the squares in a chart, the

equation of center,

> > > >>> the argument of a circle, the distance of a

planet from

> > > >>> the first point of its orbit in the fourth

, seventh ,

> > > >>> or tenth degree Surya and so on but

certainly not a Door.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> A shubha when Kendraadhipati gets blemish

that is called

> > > >>> Kendraadhipatya dosha and Parashara says

that its dasha

> > > >>> will not give good results. So

strengthening Jupiter

> > > >>> when he is lord of Kendra dose not make

astrological sense.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Take care,

> > > >>> Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Samarth wrote:

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Namasthe Chandrashekarji,

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Its been long having communicated with

you. How have

> > > >>>> you been

> > > >>>> doing? (The last we had conversation

was at Jagannatha

> > > >>>> Puri

> > > >>>> conference on the topic of the

importance of

> > > >>>> Vimshottari dasa, though

> > > >>>> the conference was about yogas).

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> I was just reading one of the blogs

where in it was

> > > >>>> mentioned to

> > > >>>> strengthen Jupiter if he is a kendra

lord in order to

> > > >>>> strengthen the

> > > >>>> door of the horoscope. Kendra = Doors.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Kind Regards

> > > >>>> Samarth

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> <%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > > >>>> sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote:

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Dear Samarth,

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Could let me know why would you

want to strengthen a

> > > >>>> dosha even if

> > > >>>> it is

> > > >>>> > of Kendradhipati? One would

normally want to overcome

> > > >>>> a dosha.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Samarth wrote:

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Hi Group,

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Could you kindly suggest me a

gemstone to

> > > >>>> strengthen the

> > > >>>> > > Kendradhipati dosha in my

chart. Is Yellow Sapphire

> > > >>>> favorable?

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Date of birth - 18th April

1982, time - 6:05 PM,

> > > >>>> Place of Birth -

> > > >>>> > > Bangalore.

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > For now I am wearing a blue

sapphire on the right

> > > >>>> hand middle

> > > >>>> finger.

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Thanks.

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > > Kind Regards

> > > >>>> > > Samarth

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> > >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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