Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949Time: 9:04:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 13' 00", 22 N 18' 00" Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Very good news indeed! I am also expecting to be a grandma next year from my son Partha! A sign without a planet only gives its inherent qualities. Saturn is the strongest from the 3rd phase of its dasa. It is mooltrikona lord of the 7th and it is related to your wife compounded with the fact that it is 2nd from AL in transit. Its traversal from AL to 2nd from AL would have caused many upheavals where family life is concerned. But generally, Saturn is to be seen as the wayfarer. Did you move a lot during this Saturn MD? Curious. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949 Time: 9:04:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 73 E 13' 00 " , 22 N 18' 00 " Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Best wishes to you, Partha and his wife! Some re-confirmation! So Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase generally in all cases? And what results does it give in this phase? How is the transit of Saturn in 2nd from AL, affects financiers and health? You are right, Saturn has truly been a wayfarer for me, moved from India to Muscat, back to India (3 locations within India), Muscat again, Dubai and now US! Saturn - Venus and Sun ADs were very difficult, impacted career and home life very hard. God has since been kind, though wife is yet to make a shift to US and family is still at multiple locations. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Very good news indeed! I am also expecting to be a grandma next year from my son Partha! A sign without a planet only gives its inherent qualities. Saturn is the strongest from the 3rd phase of its dasa. It is mooltrikona lord of the 7th and it is related to your wife compounded with the fact that it is 2nd from AL in transit. Its traversal from AL to 2nd from AL would have caused many upheavals where family life is concerned. But generally, Saturn is to be seen as the wayfarer. Did you move a lot during this Saturn MD? Curious. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniMonday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949Time: 9:04:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 13' 00", 22 N 18' 00" Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Let me try! 1. Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu are the planets that impact the planet. Relationship with Moon and Sun is strongest and it could give results of these 2 planets. Both should be good and Jupiter's aspect would make it better, so Rahu is the only one spoiling the party! Having seen the relationship in earlier para, do we pursue the logic of one planet giving the result of other at all? 2. Mercury is a functional malefic though and marka too. 3. It is in mitra navtara chakra from lagna (vim dasa seen from Moon). 4. Mercury is 2L and 11L also placed in 2nd from AL and hence dasa can be very good for wealth and materialistic gains. Now coming back to the original question, if Mercury is to give the results of Sun, 1H affairs will be in forefront and if it is to give the results of Moon, 12H affairs will be predominant. I shall appreciate your comments. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste I should add that an MD gives general results of its ownership of the houses it owns and the one that has the most say is usually the AD and PD of course. Those are the ones that give results. For MD Mercury, look at its relationships first with the planets. You will get a sure shot idea what’s going to happen. The smaller periods are more for pin pointing. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniMonday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949Time: 9:04:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 13' 00", 22 N 18' 00" Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 om sarvavedantavide namah Dear Ramesh Namaste Let’s back track and stay with Moon instead of Mercury. Moon’s period will be like the ebb and neap of the tides. This is how you should look at it. The parivatana with Mercury with Cancer/Virgo with aspect from Jupiter is more binding that the energies of both Mercury and Moon. Both of them waver. Both are in trines to one another in navamsa, so this is the time to devout more time into astrology. If you are into consultancy, it is will be more pronounced, though work/consultations will be erratic. Looking at ND of Dasamsa, Sg period will not encourage protracted growth in as far where career is concerned. More of a winding up and consolidating period. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:20 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Let me try! 1. Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu are the planets that impact the planet. Relationship with Moon and Sun is strongest and it could give results of these 2 planets. Both should be good and Jupiter's aspect would make it better, so Rahu is the only one spoiling the party! Having seen the relationship in earlier para, do we pursue the logic of one planet giving the result of other at all? 2. Mercury is a functional malefic though and marka too. 3. It is in mitra navtara chakra from lagna (vim dasa seen from Moon). 4. Mercury is 2L and 11L also placed in 2nd from AL and hence dasa can be very good for wealth and materialistic gains. Now coming back to the original question, if Mercury is to give the results of Sun, 1H affairs will be in forefront and if it is to give the results of Moon, 12H affairs will be predominant. I shall appreciate your comments. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste I should add that an MD gives general results of its ownership of the houses it owns and the one that has the most say is usually the AD and PD of course. Those are the ones that give results. For MD Mercury, look at its relationships first with the planets. You will get a sure shot idea what’s going to happen. The smaller periods are more for pin pointing. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949 Time: 9:04:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 73 E 13' 00 " , 22 N 18' 00 " Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Thanks for your response. I do see your point regarding both Moon and Mercury being wavering. How do you derive astrology from Moon, Mercury combination? I see that Moon is AK and Mercury is 11L, is that the logic behind your comment? I have some doubt about D9 and D10 lagnas, may need correction, as with D10 Pisces lagna, 7H is stronger and I should have been into business long ago! Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanTuesday, June 06, 2006 1:06 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas om sarvavedantavide namah Dear Ramesh Namaste Let’s back track and stay with Moon instead of Mercury. Moon’s period will be like the ebb and neap of the tides. This is how you should look at it. The parivatana with Mercury with Cancer/Virgo with aspect from Jupiter is more binding that the energies of both Mercury and Moon. Both of them waver. Both are in trines to one another in navamsa, so this is the time to devout more time into astrology. If you are into consultancy, it is will be more pronounced, though work/consultations will be erratic. Looking at ND of Dasamsa, Sg period will not encourage protracted growth in as far where career is concerned. More of a winding up and consolidating period. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniTuesday, June 06, 2006 4:20 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Let me try! 1. Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu are the planets that impact the planet. Relationship with Moon and Sun is strongest and it could give results of these 2 planets. Both should be good and Jupiter's aspect would make it better, so Rahu is the only one spoiling the party! Having seen the relationship in earlier para, do we pursue the logic of one planet giving the result of other at all? 2. Mercury is a functional malefic though and marka too. 3. It is in mitra navtara chakra from lagna (vim dasa seen from Moon). 4. Mercury is 2L and 11L also placed in 2nd from AL and hence dasa can be very good for wealth and materialistic gains. Now coming back to the original question, if Mercury is to give the results of Sun, 1H affairs will be in forefront and if it is to give the results of Moon, 12H affairs will be predominant. I shall appreciate your comments. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste I should add that an MD gives general results of its ownership of the houses it owns and the one that has the most say is usually the AD and PD of course. Those are the ones that give results. For MD Mercury, look at its relationships first with the planets. You will get a sure shot idea what’s going to happen. The smaller periods are more for pin pointing. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniMonday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949Time: 9:04:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 13' 00", 22 N 18' 00" Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste We look at the 11th from AL for an astrologer. Studying astrology is different. Having an interest too is also different. The assumption is that of Moon in Cancer itself. Gives one an interest – remember, it is with your asc. lord. Looking on the TR side, Saturn is coming into your sade sati – that give papakatari yoga, Mishra yoga and few others. Hora Ratnam somewhere states the MD lord it self can kill if it is your 7th dasa. So why worry about maraka? Back to your astrological skills. It is Mars – logic/ganita in AL. so you are seen to be swish with calculations. So do you count beans? ;-) Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:41 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Thanks for your response. I do see your point regarding both Moon and Mercury being wavering. How do you derive astrology from Moon, Mercury combination? I see that Moon is AK and Mercury is 11L, is that the logic behind your comment? I have some doubt about D9 and D10 lagnas, may need correction, as with D10 Pisces lagna, 7H is stronger and I should have been into business long ago! Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:06 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas om sarvavedantavide namah Dear Ramesh Namaste Let’s back track and stay with Moon instead of Mercury. Moon’s period will be like the ebb and neap of the tides. This is how you should look at it. The parivatana with Mercury with Cancer/Virgo with aspect from Jupiter is more binding that the energies of both Mercury and Moon. Both of them waver. Both are in trines to one another in navamsa, so this is the time to devout more time into astrology. If you are into consultancy, it is will be more pronounced, though work/consultations will be erratic. Looking at ND of Dasamsa, Sg period will not encourage protracted growth in as far where career is concerned. More of a winding up and consolidating period. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:20 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Let me try! 1. Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu are the planets that impact the planet. Relationship with Moon and Sun is strongest and it could give results of these 2 planets. Both should be good and Jupiter's aspect would make it better, so Rahu is the only one spoiling the party! Having seen the relationship in earlier para, do we pursue the logic of one planet giving the result of other at all? 2. Mercury is a functional malefic though and marka too. 3. It is in mitra navtara chakra from lagna (vim dasa seen from Moon). 4. Mercury is 2L and 11L also placed in 2nd from AL and hence dasa can be very good for wealth and materialistic gains. Now coming back to the original question, if Mercury is to give the results of Sun, 1H affairs will be in forefront and if it is to give the results of Moon, 12H affairs will be predominant. I shall appreciate your comments. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste I should add that an MD gives general results of its ownership of the houses it owns and the one that has the most say is usually the AD and PD of course. Those are the ones that give results. For MD Mercury, look at its relationships first with the planets. You will get a sure shot idea what’s going to happen. The smaller periods are more for pin pointing. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949 Time: 9:04:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 73 E 13' 00 " , 22 N 18' 00 " Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Thank you Swee, Your emphasis is more on Moon than Mercury because of parivartana. Please correct me if my understanding is not correct. Yes sade sati is coming shortly. Hope it is not too tough, previous one(s) passed peacefully! You are right about Logic, Ganita and counting beans too - Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanTuesday, June 06, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste We look at the 11th from AL for an astrologer. Studying astrology is different. Having an interest too is also different. The assumption is that of Moon in Cancer itself. Gives one an interest – remember, it is with your asc. lord. Looking on the TR side, Saturn is coming into your sade sati – that give papakatari yoga, Mishra yoga and few others. Hora Ratnam somewhere states the MD lord it self can kill if it is your 7th dasa. So why worry about maraka? Back to your astrological skills. It is Mars – logic/ganita in AL. so you are seen to be swish with calculations. So do you count beans? ;-) Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniTuesday, June 06, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Thanks for your response. I do see your point regarding both Moon and Mercury being wavering. How do you derive astrology from Moon, Mercury combination? I see that Moon is AK and Mercury is 11L, is that the logic behind your comment? I have some doubt about D9 and D10 lagnas, may need correction, as with D10 Pisces lagna, 7H is stronger and I should have been into business long ago! Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanTuesday, June 06, 2006 1:06 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas om sarvavedantavide namah Dear Ramesh Namaste Let’s back track and stay with Moon instead of Mercury. Moon’s period will be like the ebb and neap of the tides. This is how you should look at it. The parivatana with Mercury with Cancer/Virgo with aspect from Jupiter is more binding that the energies of both Mercury and Moon. Both of them waver. Both are in trines to one another in navamsa, so this is the time to devout more time into astrology. If you are into consultancy, it is will be more pronounced, though work/consultations will be erratic. Looking at ND of Dasamsa, Sg period will not encourage protracted growth in as far where career is concerned. More of a winding up and consolidating period. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniTuesday, June 06, 2006 4:20 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Let me try! 1. Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu are the planets that impact the planet. Relationship with Moon and Sun is strongest and it could give results of these 2 planets. Both should be good and Jupiter's aspect would make it better, so Rahu is the only one spoiling the party! Having seen the relationship in earlier para, do we pursue the logic of one planet giving the result of other at all? 2. Mercury is a functional malefic though and marka too. 3. It is in mitra navtara chakra from lagna (vim dasa seen from Moon). 4. Mercury is 2L and 11L also placed in 2nd from AL and hence dasa can be very good for wealth and materialistic gains. Now coming back to the original question, if Mercury is to give the results of Sun, 1H affairs will be in forefront and if it is to give the results of Moon, 12H affairs will be predominant. I shall appreciate your comments. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste I should add that an MD gives general results of its ownership of the houses it owns and the one that has the most say is usually the AD and PD of course. Those are the ones that give results. For MD Mercury, look at its relationships first with the planets. You will get a sure shot idea what’s going to happen. The smaller periods are more for pin pointing. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniMonday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949Time: 9:04:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 13' 00", 22 N 18' 00" Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee ChanMonday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Now you have the general gist. Let’s move on to the sub. It is also Mercury. Saturn’s transit is really like a mini Sade Sati (in the last phase) as you enter into your 1st phase of Mercury –Moon. Strongest impact because it is 12 degrees versus 11 degrees at transit in Marana. You’ll also need an August 2008 look out. Narasimha stuti is pretty good. I have typed them out and taken jpg format to send to those who are interested, but requires cropping, lacking the time as I am traveling again. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:37 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Thank you Swee, Your emphasis is more on Moon than Mercury because of parivartana. Please correct me if my understanding is not correct. Yes sade sati is coming shortly. Hope it is not too tough, previous one(s) passed peacefully! You are right about Logic, Ganita and counting beans too - Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:57 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste We look at the 11th from AL for an astrologer. Studying astrology is different. Having an interest too is also different. The assumption is that of Moon in Cancer itself. Gives one an interest – remember, it is with your asc. lord. Looking on the TR side, Saturn is coming into your sade sati – that give papakatari yoga, Mishra yoga and few others. Hora Ratnam somewhere states the MD lord it self can kill if it is your 7th dasa. So why worry about maraka? Back to your astrological skills. It is Mars – logic/ganita in AL. so you are seen to be swish with calculations. So do you count beans? ;-) Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:41 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Thanks for your response. I do see your point regarding both Moon and Mercury being wavering. How do you derive astrology from Moon, Mercury combination? I see that Moon is AK and Mercury is 11L, is that the logic behind your comment? I have some doubt about D9 and D10 lagnas, may need correction, as with D10 Pisces lagna, 7H is stronger and I should have been into business long ago! Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:06 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas om sarvavedantavide namah Dear Ramesh Namaste Let’s back track and stay with Moon instead of Mercury. Moon’s period will be like the ebb and neap of the tides. This is how you should look at it. The parivatana with Mercury with Cancer/Virgo with aspect from Jupiter is more binding that the energies of both Mercury and Moon. Both of them waver. Both are in trines to one another in navamsa, so this is the time to devout more time into astrology. If you are into consultancy, it is will be more pronounced, though work/consultations will be erratic. Looking at ND of Dasamsa, Sg period will not encourage protracted growth in as far where career is concerned. More of a winding up and consolidating period. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:20 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Let me try! 1. Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Rahu are the planets that impact the planet. Relationship with Moon and Sun is strongest and it could give results of these 2 planets. Both should be good and Jupiter's aspect would make it better, so Rahu is the only one spoiling the party! Having seen the relationship in earlier para, do we pursue the logic of one planet giving the result of other at all? 2. Mercury is a functional malefic though and marka too. 3. It is in mitra navtara chakra from lagna (vim dasa seen from Moon). 4. Mercury is 2L and 11L also placed in 2nd from AL and hence dasa can be very good for wealth and materialistic gains. Now coming back to the original question, if Mercury is to give the results of Sun, 1H affairs will be in forefront and if it is to give the results of Moon, 12H affairs will be predominant. I shall appreciate your comments. Best Wishes, Ramesh On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 2:50 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste I should add that an MD gives general results of its ownership of the houses it owns and the one that has the most say is usually the AD and PD of course. Those are the ones that give results. For MD Mercury, look at its relationships first with the planets. You will get a sure shot idea what’s going to happen. The smaller periods are more for pin pointing. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, June 05, 2006 8:23 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Swee, Many thanks. I was checking on upcoming Mercury MD, sorry but I should have clarified this earlier. Now let me try and catch up with you and understand the basics. I take it that you are looking at current Saturn MD and its sub-sub periods. Please explain what you meant by 'Saturn is strongest in 3rd phase'. Wouldn't a malefic give the results of its strength in first phase? Saturn is also placed in Leo which is a sirsodaya sign. Both me and my wife are fine as of now but please explain logic for your comments. Saturn is 6L placed in lagna and Jupiter is 8L placed in Capricorn. Are you looking at the Cancer in 12H because of Saturn's transit and Mercury's placement while pointing towards heart? We are expecting a grand child in Aug. My wife is with me now, plans to get back before the date. Best Wishes, Ramesh July 31, 1949 Time: 9:04:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 73 E 13' 00 " , 22 N 18' 00 " Vadodara, India On Behalf Of Swee Chan Monday, June 05, 2006 11:35 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramesh, Namaste Not so fast! We need to see the sign it is friendly in. The 3rd or the 6th from AL if it has a benefic, will give negative results. The parivatana means one will do each other’s work. In your vimsottari dasa, Saturn is strongest during the 3rd phase. It is traversing in the 12th house – perhaps wife’s health/teeth/bones/high blood pressure is under the microscope. How’s your heart faring, considering the fact you’ve enquired about this sub sub period that is Jupiter – this is your part as the spouse. With sub sub of Mercury, it is the 12th house and in parivatana with Mercury. It can also mean a child. Your family with you? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani Sunday, June 04, 2006 4:38 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Dasa results in case of multiple yogas || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear Gurus, It is said that in case of multiple conjunctions the most benefic planet gives the results of most malefic and visa versa. It is also said that in case of parivartana one planet gives the results of another one. My Mercury is conjoint with Sun and is in parivartana with Moon (which is in conjunction with Ketu). Whose results is Mercury likely to give? Best Wishes, Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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