Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Dear swee, The gemology is a science of very recent origin. While there are references to stones doing good, a lot of good infact, like that of Shyamantak Mani in the story fo Sri Krishna-Satrajit,traditionally, the remedies catered are mostly in the form of Mantra and rituals. They have taken a nebulous turn with the advent of Yantra, which is basically a vamacara, the rituals of lower level involving sometimes hedioous practices. However, presently, the remedies of Yantras to some extent have been 'aryanized'. The likes of SriYantra are well recommended in later texts. Coming to the remedies in the form of the stones, i never found a set of basic rules. I am not really sure whether they really exist and if anyone can give a reference. But, my understanding always is that it is safe to prescribe the stone of an afflicted (or badly placed) benefic, which will certainly do much good. (when I said benefic, i meant one for the particular lagna) On the other hand, I am not too sure when one can prescribe a stone for a malefic, as a way of appeasement. I usually do not prescribe stones in such cases but ask them to take recourse to either mantras or in case of lazy lubbards, simple remedies from Lalkitab often give some respite. In any case, it will be nice if you present here some basic principles of prescription of stone which can be used for future reference, as I have always found total negation also works for what has been prohibited -for eg., prescription of heera for cancer lagnites or neelam for leo people etc. regards, Kishore patnaik On 5/12/06, swee <swee wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Sanjay ji and Visti,NamasteIt bothers me that we do not have the basic ground rules like trik lordsof natural benefics, Jupiter, Venus and waxing Moon will give their results where they are posited - regardless.Please point me to the exact ref. that you've mentioned.Much appreciated.love,Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Kishore, Namaste The statement in Suka Nadi on the Capricorn ascendant is very clear: That Mars, Jupiter and Moon are INAUSPICIOUS. Venus and Mercury are BENEFICIAL. Saturn is NOT Maraka lord while Mars, Jupiter and Moon may prove as killers. The statement speaks for itself and there is no further need to elaborate. Jataka Tattva: III sloka 5 [When the lord of any house is in the 6th, 8th or 12th position or when a house is occupied by the lord of the 6th, 8th or 12th counted from it, the house in question is totally lost.] The first part deals with exactly what you've mentioned - that in order to alleviate the problems faced by a " functional benefic " which is badly placed, recommend a gemstone that pertains to that particular funtional benefic.The latter deals with exactly what I object to from Visti's statement: That if the 12th lord happens to be Jupiter in this case, and it is well placed, one can recommend the gemstone that Jupiter presides over. Further notes: The ascendant lord cannot become inauspicious imspite of his owning simultaneously owning an evil house e.g. Taurus, Scorpio etc.The ascendant lord's friends have affinity for the particular ascendant. Taking Taurus ascendant as an example: Venus is friends with saturn and Mercury and enemies with the Sun and Moon. As Venus's moolatrikona is the 6th house and Sun is the karaka of health, the watch word here is to time health related problems which Venus and Sun preside over. Functional benefics for this ascendant are the 4th - Sun, 5th Mercury, the 9th and 10th lord, Saturn (YK).Using dwisaptati dasa, besides Venus's period for excellent RY, Saturn too was very good. In fact, financially it was also a very good time for me.(Note, Venus and Saturn are in parivatana in my chart). More to say, but am rather busy until Monday. love, Swee > Dear swee, > > The gemology is a science of very recent origin. While there are > references to stones doing good, a lot of good infact, like that of > Shyamantak Mani in the story fo Sri Krishna-Satrajit,traditionally, the > remedies catered are mostly in the form of Mantra and rituals. > > They have taken a nebulous turn with the advent of Yantra, which is > basically a vamacara, the rituals of lower level involving sometimes > hedioous practices. However, presently, the remedies of Yantras to > some extent have been 'aryanized'. The likes of SriYantra are well > recommended in later texts. > > Coming to the remedies in the form of the stones, i never found a set > of basic rules. I am not really sure whether they really exist and if > anyone can give a reference. But, my understanding always is that it is > safe to prescribe the stone of an afflicted (or badly placed) benefic, > which will certainly do much good. (when I said benefic, i meant one > for the particular lagna) > > On the other hand, I am not too sure when one can prescribe a stone for > a malefic, as a way of appeasement. I usually do not prescribe stones > in such cases but ask them to take recourse to either mantras or in > case of lazy lubbards, simple remedies from Lalkitab often give some > respite. > > In any case, it will be nice if you present here some basic principles > of prescription of stone which can be used for future reference, as I > have always found total negation also works for what has been > prohibited -for eg., prescription of heera for cancer lagnites or > neelam for leo people etc. > > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > > On 5/12/06, swee <swee wrote: >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Sanjay ji and Visti, >> Namaste >> >> >> It bothers me that we do not have the basic ground rules like trik >> lords of natural benefics, Jupiter, Venus and waxing Moon will give >> their results where they are posited - regardless. >> Please point me to the exact ref. that you've mentioned. >> >> Much appreciated. >> >> love, >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 hi swee, namaste.it is not for the capricorn asc alone I am talking about. For eg., I do establish that Mercury is bad for say sagi lagna , thnkx to events or someother way, can I prescribe emerald for appeasement of Budha and if so, under what conditions? Kishore patnaik On 5/13/06, swee <swee > wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Kishore, Namaste The statement in Suka Nadi on the Capricorn ascendant is very clear: That Mars, Jupiter and Moon are INAUSPICIOUS. Venus and Mercury are BENEFICIAL. Saturn is NOT Maraka lord while Mars, Jupiter and Moon may prove as killers. The statement speaks for itself and there is no further need to elaborate. Jataka Tattva: III sloka 5 [When the lord of any house is in the 6th, 8th or 12th position or when a house is occupied by the lord of the 6th, 8th or 12th counted from it, the house in question is totally lost.] The first part deals with exactly what you've mentioned - that in order to alleviate the problems faced by a " functional benefic " which is badly placed, recommend a gemstone that pertains to that particular funtional benefic.The latter deals with exactly what I object to from Visti's statement: That if the 12th lord happens to be Jupiter in this case, and it is well placed, one can recommend the gemstone that Jupiter presides over. Further notes: The ascendant lord cannot become inauspicious imspite of his owning simultaneously owning an evil house e.g. Taurus, Scorpio etc.The ascendant lord's friends have affinity for the particular ascendant. Taking Taurus ascendant as an example: Venus is friends with saturn and Mercury and enemies with the Sun and Moon. As Venus's moolatrikona is the 6th house and Sun is the karaka of health, the watch word here is to time health related problems which Venus and Sun preside over. Functional benefics for this ascendant are the 4th - Sun, 5th Mercury, the 9th and 10th lord, Saturn (YK).Using dwisaptati dasa, besides Venus's period for excellent RY, Saturn too was very good. In fact, financially it was also a very good time for me.(Note, Venus and Saturn are in parivatana in my chart). More to say, but am rather busy until Monday. love, Swee > Dear swee, > > The gemology is a science of very recent origin. While there are > references to stones doing good, a lot of good infact, like that of > Shyamantak Mani in the story fo Sri Krishna-Satrajit,traditionally, the > remedies catered are mostly in the form of Mantra and rituals. > > They have taken a nebulous turn with the advent of Yantra, which is > basically a vamacara, the rituals of lower level involving sometimes > hedioous practices. However, presently, the remedies of Yantras to > some extent have been 'aryanized'. The likes of SriYantra are well > recommended in later texts. > > Coming to the remedies in the form of the stones, i never found a set > of basic rules. I am not really sure whether they really exist and if > anyone can give a reference. But, my understanding always is that it is > safe to prescribe the stone of an afflicted (or badly placed) benefic, > which will certainly do much good. (when I said benefic, i meant one > for the particular lagna) > > On the other hand, I am not too sure when one can prescribe a stone for > a malefic, as a way of appeasement. I usually do not prescribe stones > in such cases but ask them to take recourse to either mantras or in > case of lazy lubbards, simple remedies from Lalkitab often give some > respite. > > In any case, it will be nice if you present here some basic principles > of prescription of stone which can be used for future reference, as I > have always found total negation also works for what has been > prohibited -for eg., prescription of heera for cancer lagnites or > neelam for leo people etc. > > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > > On 5/12/06, swee < swee wrote: >> >> >> Jaya Jagannatha >> >> Dear Sanjay ji and Visti, >> Namaste >> >> >> It bothers me that we do not have the basic ground rules like trik >> lords of natural benefics, Jupiter, Venus and waxing Moon will give >> their results where they are posited - regardless. >> Please point me to the exact ref. that you've mentioned. >> >> Much appreciated. >> >> love, >> Swee >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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