Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa Calculation with egs

December 22, 2005

Sunil,

Uninstall

and re-download the software http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/index.htm

Love,

Swee

On Behalf Of Sunil John

Thursday, December 22, 2005

1:58 PM

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao;

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Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa Calculation with egs

Dear

PVR,

Sashtanga

Pranam

My

Jhora is suddenly not working today giving MCS or MCF application error

otherwise i would have attached charts & done more search on other charts.

Pls find below rough notes that i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples.

this dasa appeared in an article in Astrological Magazin! e and was written by

Raman Suprajarama.

Although

here he has used it only to time Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has

multiple uses if Karaka is changed & Arudha is changed (from what given

here in this article) - A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i

remember what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would

start in different order as karaka would change.

Also,

I wonder if the dasa can be used for general predictions along with SAV & !

amp; PAV points to judge the result of dasa and antar in ones life.

If

you or anyone can point out how to remove the MCS application error so that

Jhora starts again in my PC i shall be indebted, without that software i have

been frustrated from morning. tried reinstalling several times but not working.

best

wishes

SJ

My

notes

Astakvarga

Graha Dasa

PREMISE

The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha

Dasa scheme is similar to that of Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match

with what Raman Suprajarama has given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and

duration just click to CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) – tested this on the

2 charts given by Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos

& Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what Raman gave)

Start dasa calculation from the day one

was born e.g May 11th 1973

Sign based dasa

Some scholars of the opinion that

Trikona based dasa can also be used as it denotes the four purposes of life

(Dharma, ARtha, Kama

and Moksha)

The Bhuktis are calculated by

considering the position of Venus in the RASI Chart

Each Dasa period is Split into 12 equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts

from the sign occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order

from that sign

Step

1:

1.

Find out the UL Lagna in D9.

2.

The 2nd house from UL

indicates family here and 7th house indicates spouse. We need to

consider the stronger of the two houses

If more planets are present in either of the houses that becomes

stronger.

If both houses contain equal number of !

planets (or no planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the

strongest.

If this condition is also not satisfied, then

the nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed signs

come next and moveable signs are the least powerful.

Step

2

The dasa of the sign arrived (Computed Sign)

under STEP 1 indicates Marriage.

It is also

possible in the dasa of the signs aspecting the above Computed Sign

Step

3

Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step 2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed

sign) which have more than 30 bindus in SAV

can indicate marriage.

Step

4

The Sodya Pinda of Venus! and the

number of bindus in the 7th from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV)

are multiplied and the product is divided by 12. The remainder represents the

reference sign. Marriage can take place in the Bhukti of this sign or its Trines

Chart

1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag

Chart 1: 30th

Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc,

SC

Nav

(Author

Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in

Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2

to show the dasa working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I

think in Chart 2)

Personal notes on Chart 1

1)

chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg 1022

2)

Marriage - 19th Feb 05

3)

Nav ASc seems correct to what was given in the mag

Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa

Step

1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from it is Cn and! Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas

SG has none,

so

Cn is stronger and capable of giving marriage

Step

2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are

capable of giving marriage

Step

3: Also, the 3 signs arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give

marriage but here none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage

has only 21 bindus

Special note SJ: Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable

of giving marriage strongly

Step

4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147 & PAV of Ven is 3

both

should be multiplied - 147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the r!

emainder is 9

which

becomes SAgitarrius as the reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the

bhukti of this sign or its trines

Final

note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in actual practice

Chart No 2

1)

Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022

2)

chart Details: 18th Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E

38

b)

Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the

article

is from Raman Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa

3)

Marriage in Jan 1999

SJ Notes: If one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then

UL changes which is the key to this dasa, so one way to testing this technique

could be using it on known charts and using two different ayanamsas

a)

Here take Raman Ayanamsa and then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to

match

what is given in Dec 05 AM mag article by Raman Suprajama

b)

Step1: UL comes in Cancer, 2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon

in Cp, since both have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer

(either Mer, Jup or its lord)

Step

2: Signs aspecting Leo is AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage

Step

3: SAV bindus - Ar is only 18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable

it didn’t give marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since

Aries is 7th house of natal D9

Step

4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199 (whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from

PAV of Ven =1 (in mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag gives 1414)

This

199 divide by 12, remainder is 7, so sign is Libra, so bh! utki can be Libra

and trines which is Ge or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique

doesn’t work

SJ Notes: what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of

bindus in Ven PAV, is completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas

software is using, don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so

as to know which software he is using .

" Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao " <pvr wrote:

Namaste Sunil,

I don't know of any software that gives it.

If you share the definition of this dasa or give a

reference, I can try to add it in my software (Jagannatha Hora). Give a

practical example also, if you can.

Merry christmas and happy new year to you too!

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Fr! ee Jyotish lessons (MP3):

http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows):

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

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http://www.SriJagannath.org

-------------------------------

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Sunil

John

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20, 2005 2:40 PM

Ashtakavarga Graha

Dasa - astro software

Dear Learned Members,

Can anyone point out

which astro software calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa”

Shall be most

grateful.

Btw, Merry Christmas

to everyone & may the! coming year be full of wonderful productive

experiences.

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

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December 22, 2005

Dear Swee, Thanks for your mail. Tried that several times but still the problem persists. The same problem had occurred a week back and then I had tried the same solution, it worked fine then but now it doesn’t. Incidentally Mer is also straight now whereas usually my communication problems are during Mer R Love SJSwee Chan <swee wrote: Sunil, Uninstall and re-download the software http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/index.htm Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sunil JohnThursday, December 22, 2005 1:58 PMNarasimha P.V.R. Rao; ashtakvarga ; Jyotish Group; parasari_jyotish ; ; Varahamihira Group; valist ; Vedic Astrology ListCc: Narasimha Rao; SJC Africa; Vedic Astrology List[Jaya Jagannatha] Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa Calculation with egs Dear PVR, Sashtanga Pranam My Jhora is suddenly not working today giving MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have attached charts & done more search on other charts. Pls find below rough notes that i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared in an article in Astrological Magazin! e and was written by Raman Suprajarama. Although here he has used it only to time Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses if Karaka is changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this article) - A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in different order as karaka would change. Also, I wonder if the dasa can be used for general predictions along with SAV & ! amp; PAV points to judge the result of dasa and antar in ones life. If you or anyone can point out how to remove the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in my PC i shall be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from morning. tried reinstalling several times but not working. best wishes SJ My notes Astakvarga Graha Dasa PREMISE The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar to that of Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman Suprajarama has given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and duration just click to CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) –

tested this on the 2 charts given by Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what Raman gave) Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th 1973 Sign based dasa Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also be used as it denotes the four purposes of life (Dharma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha) The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of Venus in the RASI Chart Each Dasa period is Split into 12 equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the sign occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that sign Step 1: 1. Find out the UL Lagna in D9. 2. The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th house indicates spouse. We need to consider the stronger of the two houses If more planets are present in

either of the houses that becomes stronger. If both houses contain equal number of ! planets (or no planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest. If this condition is also not satisfied, then the nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed signs come next and moveable signs are the least powerful. Step 2 The dasa of the sign arrived (Computed Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage. It is also possible in the dasa of the signs aspecting the above Computed Sign Step 3 Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step 2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed sign) which have more than 30 bindus in SAV can indicate marriage. Step 4 The Sodya Pinda of Venus! and the number of bindus in the 7th from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is divided by 12. The remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage can take place in the Bhukti of this sign or its Trines

Chart 1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc, SC Nav (Author Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the dasa working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in Chart 2) Personal notes on Chart 1 1) chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg 1022 2) Marriage - 19th Feb 05 3) Nav ASc seems correct to what was given in the mag Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from it is Cn and! Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas SG has none, so Cn is stronger and capable of giving marriage Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving marriage Step 3: Also, the 3 signs arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only 21 bindus Special note SJ: Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of giving marriage strongly Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147 & PAV of Ven is 3 both should be multiplied - 147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the r! emainder is 9 which becomes SAgitarrius as the reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the bhukti of this sign or its trines Final note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in actual practice Chart No 2 1) Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022 2) chart Details: 18th Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38 b) Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the article is from Raman Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa 3) Marriage in Jan 1999 SJ Notes: If one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to this dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on known charts and using two different

ayanamsas a) Here take Raman Ayanamsa and then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to match what is given in Dec 05 AM mag article by Raman Suprajama b) Step1: UL comes in Cancer, 2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer, Jup or its lord) Step 2: Signs aspecting Leo is AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar is only 18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t give marriage

whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th house of natal D9 Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199 (whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag gives 1414) This 199 divide by 12, remainder is 7, so

sign is Libra, so bh! utki can be Libra and trines which is Ge or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work SJ Notes: what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using, don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which software he is using . "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: Namaste Sunil, I don't know of any software that gives it. If you share the definition of this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my software (Jagannatha Hora). Give a practical example also, if you

can. Merry christmas and happy new year to you too! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Fr! ee Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- - Sunil John ashtakvarga ; Jyotish Group ; parasari_jyotish ; ; Varahamihira Group ; valist ; Vedic Astrology List Cc: Narasimha Rao ; Narasimha Rao Tuesday, December! 20, 2005 2:40 PM Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa - astro software Dear Learned Members, Can anyone point out which astro software calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa” Shall be most grateful. Btw, Merry Christmas to everyone & may the! coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences. Regards, Sunil John Mumbai --Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release 12/21/2005 --Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date:

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December 23, 2005

Dear Sunil,

Is this applicable to all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman

Suprajarama indicate why it is called Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the

source? Appears to be more like Karaka dasha to me. Of course I could

be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits in with the method given

for the first chart?

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear PVR,

Sashtanga Pranam

My Jhora is suddenly not working today giving

MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have attached charts

& done more search on other charts. Pls find below rough notes that

i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared in

an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman

Suprajarama.

Although here he has used it only to time

Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses if Karaka is

changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this article)

- A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember

what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in

different order as karaka would change.

Also, I wonder if the dasa can be used for

general predictions along with SAV & PAV points to judge the result

of dasa and antar in ones life.

If you or anyone can point out how to remove

the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in my PC i shall

be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from morning.

tried reinstalling several times but not working.

best wishes

SJ

My notes

Astakvarga Graha Dasa

PREMISE

The

Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar to that of

Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman Suprajarama has

given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and duration just click to

CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) – tested this on the 2 charts given by

Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos &

Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what Raman gave)

Start

dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th 1973

Sign

based dasa

Some

scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also be used as it

denotes the four purposes of life (Dharma, ARtha, Kama

and Moksha)

The

Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of Venus in the RASI

Chart

Each

Dasa period is Split into 12

equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the sign

occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that

sign

Step 1:

1.

Find

out the UL Lagna in D9.

2.

The

2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th

house indicates spouse. We need to consider the stronger of the two

houses

If more

planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger.

If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no

planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest.

If this condition is also not satisfied, then the

nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed

signs come next and moveable signs are the least powerful.

Step 2

The dasa of the sign

arrived (Computed

Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage.

It is also possible in the dasa of

the signs aspecting the above Computed

Sign

Step 3

Such

of those Rasis, arrived at in Step

2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed sign) which have more

than 30

bindus in SAV can indicate marriage.

Step 4

The

Sodya Pinda of Venus and the number of bindus in the 7th

from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is

divided by 12. The remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage

can take place in the Bhukti of this sign

or its Trines

Chart 1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag

Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am

at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc,

SC Nav

(Author Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa

that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into

antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the dasa

working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in

Chart 2)

Personal notes on Chart 1

1) chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg

1022

2) Marriage - 19th Feb 05

3) Nav ASc seems correct to what

was given in the mag

Ahstakvarga Graha

Dasa

Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from

it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas SG has none,

so Cn is stronger and capable of

giving marriage

Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect

this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving

marriage

Step 3: Also, the 3 signs

arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here

none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only

21 bindus

Special

note SJ: Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini -

Ketu is capable of giving marriage strongly

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147

& PAV of Ven is 3

both should be multiplied -

147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the remainder is 9

which becomes SAgitarrius as the

reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the bhukti of this sign

or its trines

Final note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in

actual practice

Chart

No 2

1) Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022

2) chart Details: 18th

Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38

b) Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro

jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the

article is from Raman

Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa

3) Marriage in Jan 1999

SJ Notes: If

one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to

this dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on

known charts and using two different ayanamsas

a) Here take Raman Ayanamsa and

then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to

match what is given in Dec 05 AM

mag article by Raman Suprajama

b) Step1: UL comes in Cancer,

2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both

have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer,

Jup or its lord)

Step 2: Signs aspecting Leo is

AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage

Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar is only

18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t give

marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th

house of natal D9

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199

(whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in

mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag

gives 1414)

This 199 divide by 12, remainder

is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines which is Ge

or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work

SJ Notes:

what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is

completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using,

don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which

software he is using .

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote:

Namaste Sunil,

I don't know of any software that

gives it.

If you share the definition of

this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my software

(Jagannatha Hora). Give a practical example also, if you can.

Merry christmas and happy new year

to you too!

May Jupiter's light

shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3):

http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows):

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC)

website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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Sent:

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:40 PM

Subject:

Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa - astro software

Dear Learned Members,

Can anyone point out which astro software

calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa”

Shall be most grateful.

Btw, Merry Christmas to everyone & may

the coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences.

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

December 25, 2005

Dear Sunil,

Pruthuyashas, talks about specific conditions for Ayurdaya from Ashtaka

varga. So we do not know why Mr. Raman chose to call it Ashtakavarga

dasha. Does Chandubhai know anything about this?

Chandu Kaka.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear Chandukaka,

As per what has been told to

me, it is applicable in similar fashion.

In his article on this,

Mr.Raman didn’t indicate the reason why it is called Ashtakavarga Graha

Dasha nor the source, infact since it is a Rasi Dasa, accordingly it

should be called Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasha.

In previous mail of 2 days

back wherein I had sent 3 charts as examples, I had stated there that

the bhukti technique is not working only Main Period technique is

working.

Speaking on marriage timing,

since 1.5 yrs I am trying to get hold of a work which gives through

mathematical model as to how to arrive at the marriage year, 100%

success rate. It is reputed to be a very famous technique from a senior

astrologer in Delhi.

Unfotunately I have not been successful so far

Best wishes

SJ

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

wrote:

Dear Sunil,

Is this applicable to all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman

Suprajarama indicate why it is called Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the

source? Appears to be more like Karaka dasha to me. Of course I could

be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits in with the method given

for the first chart?

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear PVR,

Sashtanga Pranam

My Jhora is suddenly not working today giving

MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have attached charts

& done more search on other charts. Pls find below rough notes that

i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared in

an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman

Suprajarama.

Although here he has used it only to time

Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses if Karaka is

changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this article)

- A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember

what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in

different order as karaka would change.

Also, I wonder if the dasa can be used for

general predictions along with SAV & PAV points to judge the result

of dasa and antar in ones life.

If you or anyone can point out how to remove

the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in my PC i shall

be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from morning.

tried reinstalling several times but not working.

best wishes

SJ

My notes

Astakvarga Graha Dasa

PREMISE

The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar

to that of Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman

Suprajarama has given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and

duration just click to CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) – tested this on

the 2 charts given by Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order

matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what

Raman gave)

Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th

1973

Sign based dasa

Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also

be used as it denotes the four purposes of life (Dharma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha)

The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of

Venus in the RASI Chart

Each Dasa period is Split into 12

equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the sign

occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that

sign

Step 1:

1.

Find out the UL Lagna in D9.

2.

The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th

house indicates spouse. We need to consider the stronger of the two

houses

If more

planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger.

If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no

planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest.

If this condition is also not satisfied, then the

nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed

signs come next and moveable signs are the least powerful.

Step 2

The dasa of the sign

arrived (Computed

Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage.

It is also possible in the dasa of the signs

aspecting the above Computed

Sign

Step 3

Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step

2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed sign) which have more

than 30

bindus in SAV can indicate marriage.

Step 4

The Sodya Pinda of Venus and the number of bindus in the 7th

from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is

divided by 12. The remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage

can take place in the Bhukti of this sign

or its Trines

Chart 1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag

Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am

at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc,

SC Nav

(Author Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa

that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into

antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the dasa

working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in

Chart 2)

Personal notes on Chart 1

1) chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg

1022

2) Marriage - 19th Feb 05

3) Nav ASc seems correct to what

was given in the mag

Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa

Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from

it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas SG has none,

so Cn is stronger and capable of

giving marriage

Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect

this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving

marriage

Step 3: Also, the 3 signs

arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here

none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only

21 bindus

Special note SJ:

Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of

giving marriage strongly

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147

& PAV of Ven is 3

both should be multiplied -

147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the remainder is 9

which becomes SAgitarrius as the

reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the bhukti of this sign

or its trines

Final note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in

actual practice

Chart No 2

1) Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022

2) chart Details: 18th

Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38

b) Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro

jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the

article is from Raman

Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa

3) Marriage in Jan 1999

SJ Notes: If

one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to

this dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on

known charts and using two different ayanamsas

a) Here take Raman Ayanamsa and

then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to

match what is given in Dec 05 AM

mag article by Raman Suprajama

b) Step1: UL comes in Cancer,

2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both

have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer,

Jup or its lord)

Step 2: Signs aspecting Leo is

AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage

Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar is only

18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t give

marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th

house of natal D9

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199

(whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in

mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag

gives 1414)

This 199 divide by 12, remainder

is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines which is Ge

or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work

SJ Notes:

what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is

completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using,

don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which

software he is using .

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

wrote:

Namaste Sunil,

I don't know of any software

that gives it.

If you share the definition of

this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my software

(Jagannatha Hora). Give a practical example also, if you can.

Merry christmas and happy new

year to you too!

May Jupiter's light

shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

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Dear Learned Members,

Can anyone point out which astro software

calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa”

Shall be most grateful.

Btw, Merry Christmas to everyone & may

the coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences.

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

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December 25, 2005

Dear Chandrashekharji, Though I met Chandubhai today and I was to ask about it, I somehow forgot, but I wonder if he would know about it since he has never mentioned it in his books or in his talks. The only thing he has mentioned in his books is how

to use SAV to determine the effects of dasas, he did this with Amitabh Bachchans horoscope, but the SAV he gets is different from what is available in Jhora (I couldnt check it in other softwares). If i remember well he uses different time of birth than what others use Tom afternoon I am to meet him again I shall ask him then. Regards, SJChandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Dear Sunil,Pruthuyashas, talks about specific conditions for Ayurdaya from Ashtaka varga. So we do not know why Mr. Raman chose to call it Ashtakavarga dasha. Does Chandubhai know anything about this?Chandu Kaka.Sunil John wrote: Dear

Chandukaka, As per what has been told to me, it is applicable in similar fashion. In his article on this, Mr.Raman didn’t indicate the reason why it is called Ashtakavarga Graha Dasha nor the source, infact since it is a Rasi Dasa, accordingly it should be called Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasha. In

previous mail of 2 days back wherein I had sent 3 charts as examples, I had stated there that the bhukti technique is not working only Main Period technique is working. Speaking on marriage timing, since 1.5 yrs I am trying to get hold of a work which gives through mathematical model as to how to arrive at the marriage year, 100% success rate. It is reputed to be a very famous technique from a senior astrologer in Delhi. Unfotunately I have not been successful so far Best wishes SJChandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Dear Sunil,Is this applicable to all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman Suprajarama indicate why it is called Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the source? Appears to be more like Karaka dasha to me. Of course I could be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits in with the method given for the first chart?Chandrashekhar.Sunil John wrote: Dear PVR, Sashtanga Pranam My Jhora is suddenly not working today giving MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have attached charts & done more search on other charts. Pls find below rough notes that i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared in an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman

Suprajarama. Although here he has used it only to time Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses if Karaka is changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this article) - A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in different order as karaka would change. Also, I wonder if the dasa can be used for general predictions along with SAV & PAV points to judge the result of dasa and antar in ones life. If you or anyone can point out how to remove the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in my PC i shall be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from morning. tried reinstalling several times but not working. best wishes SJ My notes Astakvarga Graha Dasa PREMISE The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar to that of Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman Suprajarama has given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and duration just click to CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) – tested this on the 2 charts given by Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what

Raman gave) Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th 1973 Sign based dasa Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also be used as it denotes the four purposes of life (Dharma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha) The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of Venus in the RASI Chart Each Dasa period is Split into 12 equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the sign occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that sign Step 1: 1. Find out the UL Lagna in D9. 2. The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th house indicates spouse. We need to consider the stronger of the two houses If more planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger. If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest. If this condition is also not satisfied, then the nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed signs come next and moveable signs are the least powerful. Step 2 The dasa of the sign arrived (Computed Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage. It is also possible in the dasa of the signs aspecting the above Computed Sign Step 3 Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step 2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed sign) which have more than 30 bindus in SAV can indicate

marriage. Step 4 The Sodya Pinda of Venus and the number of bindus in the 7th from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is divided by 12. The remainder

represents the reference sign. Marriage can take place in the Bhukti of this sign or its Trines Chart 1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am

at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc, SC Nav (Author Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the dasa working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in Chart 2) Personal notes on Chart 1 1) chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg 1022 2) Marriage - 19th Feb 05 3) Nav ASc seems correct to what was given in the mag Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas SG has none, so Cn is stronger and capable of giving marriage Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving marriage Step 3: Also, the 3 signs arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only 21 bindus Special note SJ: Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of giving marriage strongly Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147 & PAV of Ven is 3 both should be multiplied - 147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the remainder is 9 which becomes SAgitarrius as the reference Sign, the marriage can

take place in the bhukti of this sign or its trines Final note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in actual practice Chart No 2 1) Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022 2) chart Details: 18th Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38 b) Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the article is from Raman Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa 3) Marriage in Jan 1999 SJ Notes: If one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to this dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on known charts and

using two different ayanamsas a) Here take Raman Ayanamsa and then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to match what is given in Dec 05 AM mag article by Raman Suprajama b) Step1: UL comes in Cancer, 2nd from it is Le with

mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer, Jup or its lord) Step 2: Signs aspecting Leo is AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar is only 18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t give marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th house of natal D9 Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199 (whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag gives 1414) This 199 divide by 12, remainder is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines which is Ge or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work SJ Notes: what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using, don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which software he is using

.. "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: Namaste Sunil, I don't know of any software that gives it. If you share the definition of this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my software (Jagannatha Hora). Give a practical example also, if you can. Merry christmas and happy new year to you

too! May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- - Sunil John ashtakvarga ; Jyotish Group ; parasari_jyotish ; ; Varahamihira Group ; valist ; Vedic Astrology List Cc:

Narasimha Rao ; Narasimha Rao Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:40 PM Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa - astro software Dear Learned Members, Can

anyone point out which astro software calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa” Shall be most grateful. Btw, Merry Christmas to everyone & may the coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences. Regards, Sunil John Mumbai Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

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December 26, 2005

Dear Sunil,

Do ask Chandu bhai and let me know. Did you get in touch with my nephew

Jitendra?

Chandu Kaka.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear

Chandrashekharji,

Though I met

Chandubhai today and I was to ask about it, I somehow forgot, but I

wonder if he would know about it since he has never mentioned it in his

books or in his talks.

The only thing he

has mentioned in his books is how to use SAV to determine the effects

of dasas, he did this with Amitabh Bachchans horoscope, but the SAV he

gets is different from what is available in Jhora (I couldnt check it

in other softwares). If i remember well he uses different time of birth

than what others use

Tom afternoon

I am to meet him again I shall ask him then.

Regards,

SJ

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

wrote:

Dear Sunil,

Pruthuyashas, talks about specific conditions for Ayurdaya from Ashtaka

varga. So we do not know why Mr. Raman chose to call it Ashtakavarga

dasha. Does Chandubhai know anything about this?

Chandu Kaka.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear Chandukaka,

As per what has been told to

me, it is applicable in similar fashion.

In his article on this,

Mr.Raman didn’t indicate the reason why it is called Ashtakavarga Graha

Dasha nor the source, infact since it is a Rasi Dasa, accordingly it

should be called Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasha.

In previous mail of 2 days

back wherein I had sent 3 charts as examples, I had stated there that

the bhukti technique is not working only Main Period technique is

working.

Speaking on marriage timing,

since 1.5 yrs I am trying to get hold of a work which gives through

mathematical model as to how to arrive at the marriage year, 100%

success rate. It is reputed to be a very famous technique from a senior

astrologer in Delhi.

Unfotunately I have not been successful so far

Best wishes

SJ

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

wrote:

Dear Sunil,

Is this applicable to all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman

Suprajarama indicate why it is called Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the

source? Appears to be more like Karaka dasha to me. Of course I could

be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits in with the method given

for the first chart?

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear PVR,

Sashtanga Pranam

My Jhora is suddenly not working today giving

MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have attached charts

& done more search on other charts. Pls find below rough notes that

i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared in

an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman

Suprajarama.

Although here he has used it only to time

Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses if Karaka is

changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this article)

- A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember

what my village astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in

different order as karaka would change.

Also, I wonder if the dasa can be used for

general predictions along with SAV & PAV points to judge the result

of dasa and antar in ones life.

If you or anyone can point out how to remove

the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in my PC i shall

be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from morning.

tried reinstalling several times but not working.

best wishes

SJ

My notes

Astakvarga Graha Dasa

PREMISE

The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar

to that of Chara Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman

Suprajarama has given pls use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and

duration just click to CHARA Dasa (Parasara Scheme) – tested this on

the 2 charts given by Raman in the Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order

matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara dasa doesnt match with what

Raman gave)

Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th

1973

Sign based dasa

Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also

be used as it denotes the four purposes of life (Dharma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha)

The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of

Venus in the RASI Chart

Each Dasa period is Split into 12

equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the sign

occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that

sign

Step 1:

1.

Find out the UL Lagna in D9.

2.

The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th

house indicates spouse. We need to consider the stronger of the two

houses

If more

planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger.

If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no

planets) then the one with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest.

If this condition is also not satisfied, then the

nature of the sign is studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed

signs come next and moveable signs are the least powerful.

Step 2

The dasa of the sign

arrived (Computed

Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage.

It is also possible in the dasa of the signs

aspecting the above Computed

Sign

Step 3

Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step

2 (I think the ones aspecting the computed sign) which have more

than 30

bindus in SAV can indicate marriage.

Step 4

The Sodya Pinda of Venus and the number of bindus in the 7th

from Ven in Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is

divided by 12. The remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage

can take place in the Bhukti of this sign

or its Trines

Chart 1 From Dec 05 Astro Mag

Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979 at 4.18 am

at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc,

SC Nav

(Author Raman Suprajama proved thro this dasa

that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he didn’t go into

antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the dasa

working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in

Chart 2)

Personal notes on Chart 1

1) chart from Dec 05 A.M Mag. Pg

1022

2) Marriage - 19th Feb 05

3) Nav ASc seems correct to what

was given in the mag

Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa

Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge, 2nd from

it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehreas SG has none,

so Cn is stronger and capable of

giving marriage

Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq aspect

this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving

marriage

Step 3: Also, the 3 signs

arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here

none have more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only

21 bindus

Special note SJ:

Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of

giving marriage strongly

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven = 147

& PAV of Ven is 3

both should be multiplied -

147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the remainder is 9

which becomes SAgitarrius as the

reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the bhukti of this sign

or its trines

Final note: Step 3 & 4 didnt work in

actual practice

Chart No 2

1) Chart from Dec 05 AM mag, pg 1022

2) chart Details: 18th

Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38

b) Nav Asc here is Virgo(thro

jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the

article is from Raman

Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa

3) Marriage in Jan 1999

SJ Notes: If

one doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to

this dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on

known charts and using two different ayanamsas

a) Here take Raman Ayanamsa and

then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to

match what is given in Dec 05 AM

mag article by Raman Suprajama

b) Step1: UL comes in Cancer,

2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both

have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer,

Jup or its lord)

Step 2: Signs aspecting Leo is

AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage

Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar is only

18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t give

marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th

house of natal D9

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of Ven=199

(whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in

mag it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag

gives 1414)

This 199 divide by 12, remainder

is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines which is Ge

or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work

SJ Notes:

what Jhora gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is

completely different from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using,

don’t forget to write to Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which

software he is using .

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

wrote:

Namaste Sunil,

I don't know of any

software that gives it.

If you share the

definition of this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my

software (Jagannatha Hora). Give a practical example also, if you can.

Merry christmas and happy

new year to you too!

May Jupiter's light

shine on us,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons

(MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software

(Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC)

website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

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; Narasimha

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Sent:

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:40 PM

Subject:

Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa - astro software

Dear Learned Members,

Can anyone point out which astro software

calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa”

Shall be most grateful.

Btw, Merry Christmas to everyone & may

the coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences.

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

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December 27, 2005

Dear Ms. Chan,

It is very kind of you

to forward the discussions. Can you kindly forward this email to the relevant

internet groups?

Warm regards,

Raman Suprajarama

----------------

Dear Friends,

I am glad that the article

has aroused interest among the astrological family. It was father’s

desire and advice that the article be written.

A few important points

have to be noted. The articles have been wrongly titled. The article appearing

in our September 2005 issue is on Graha Dasa and that in our December 2005

issue is on Rasi Dasa.

We can classify the Dasa

systems broadly into two categories. They are Rasi Dasa and Graha Dasa.

Vimshottari, Ashottari etc fall under Graha (Planets) Dasa and Chara, Sthira,

Trikona etc fall under Rasi (Signs) Dasa.

Ashtakavarga Dasa,

either Rasi based or Graha based, further falls under Gochara section. There is

a difference between a natal fixed horoscope analysis and a gochara analysis. I

will not be going in detail about the differences in this mail, but will

definitely be speaking about them in the upcoming SJC Conference 2006.

Coming back to

Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasa with respect the marriage, we need to first understand

what “Vivaha” is. Vivaha

simply put means marriage. But in actual terms, it is much more that mere

exchange of garlands, rings or tying the knot. Vivaha can be understood as a

complete acceptance and respect of a male and female in terms of mind, body,

soul etc. Gochara section helps us to identify such scenarios which are reality

in the illusory world.

In the amarakosha, Vivaha comes under the Brahma Varga

and not under Kshatriya or other Vargas. If it had come under

Kshatriya Varga, the term Vivaha can be understood as a physical union for

gratification of senses or for mutual benefit. In current times, Living

Together relationships and the like fall under this category.

Vivaha, falling under

Brahma Varga, means more than this. A couple might have exchanged garlands and

signed the marriage register, but this does not amount to Vivaha. For Vivaha to

take place, a mutual acceptance of Brahmic attributes is essential.

The following three

examples might help in understanding the beauty of Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasa. Some

have asked as to which Software I use for calculations. We use our own

software. However, for the benefit of members, in the current email, I am using

the values calculated using Jagannatha Hora of Narasimha Rao. The values are

quite accurate and reliable.

Example

1: Bill Gates, October 28, 1955 at 9:15:00 pm, Seattle

The Mahadasa periods are

as follows (Chara Dasa):

Ge:

10/28/1955

- 10/28/1959

Ta:

10/28/1959

- 10/28/1964

Ar:

10/28/1964

- 10/28/1969

Pi:

10/28/1969

- 10/27/1976

Aq:

10/27/1976

- 10/28/1981

Cp:

10/28/1981

- 10/28/1985

Sg:

10/28/1985

- 10/28/1993

Sc:

10/28/1993

- 10/28/2003

Li:

10/28/2003

- 10/28/2015

Vi:

10/28/2015

- 10/28/2027

Le:

10/28/2027

- 10/27/2036

Cn:

10/27/2036

- 10/27/2040

In the Navamsa, UL falls

in Leo. The 2nd house is Virgo and has the influence of Rahu and

Ketu. The 7th house, Aquarius, is free of influences. Virgo becomes

stronger. Sagittarius, Pisces and Gemini aspect Virgo and become eligible to

facilitate marriage.

Let us consider Sagittarius

Dasa. The bhuktis are as follows:

Li:

28-Oct-85

- 28-Jun-86

Sc:

28-Jun-86

- 27-Feb-87

Sg:

27-Feb-87

- 28-Oct-87

Cp:

28-Oct-87

- 28-Jun-88

Aq:

28-Jun-88

- 26-Feb-89

Ps:

26-Feb-89

- 28-Oct-89

Ar:

28-Oct-89

- 28-Jun-90

Ta:

28-Jun-90

- 27-Feb-91

Gm:

27-Feb-91

- 28-Oct-91

Cn:

28-Oct-91 -

28-Jun-92

Le:

28-Jun-92

- 26-Feb-93

Vi:

26-Feb-93

- 28-Oct-93

Sodya Pinda of Venus is

186 and there 3 bindus in the 7th house from Venus in Binna

Ashtakavarga.

186 * 3 = 558 mod 12 = 6

indicating Virgo. Virgo and its trines can give marriage. Vivaha is likely to

have taken place in Pisces-Virgo ie between 26-Feb-93 and 28-Oct-93. The

official marriage, however took place on January 1, 1994.

Example 2: George W

Bush, July 6, 1946 7:26:00 am, USA

Cn:

6-Jul-46

- 5-Jul-56

Le:

5-Jul-56

- 6-Jul-58

Vi:

6-Jul-58

- 5-Jul-60

Li:

5-Jul-60

- 5-Jul-69

Sc:

5-Jul-69

- 6-Jul-78

Sg:

6-Jul-78

- 6-Jul-87

Cp:

6-Jul-87

- 5-Jul-93

Aq:

5-Jul-93

- 5-Jul-00

Pi:

5-Jul-00

- 5-Jul-06

Ar:

5-Jul-06

- 5-Jul-10

Ta:

5-Jul-10

- 5-Jul-12

Ge:

5-Jul-12

- 5-Jul-13

In Navamsa, UL falls in

Scorpio. Sagittarius and Taurus become eligible. Sagittarius has Mercury and

becomes more powerful. Pisces, Gemini and Virgo aspect Sagittarius and become

eligible to facilitate Marriage.

The bhuktis in

Sagittarius Dasa are:

Cn:

6-Jul-78

- 5-Apr-79

Le:

5-Apr-79

- 4-Jan-80

Vi:

4-Jan-80

- 4-Oct-80

Li:

4-Oct-80

- 5-Jul-81

Sc:

5-Jul-81

- 5-Apr-82

Sg:

5-Apr-82

- 4-Jan-83

Cp:

4-Jan-83

- 5-Oct-83

Aq:

5-Oct-83

- 5-Jul-84

Ps:

5-Jul-84

- 5-Apr-85

Ar:

5-Apr-85

- 4-Jan-86

Ta:

4-Jan-86

- 5-Oct-86

Gm:

5-Oct-86

- 6-Jul-87

Sodya Pinda of Venus I

73 and it has 4 bindus in the 7th from it.

73 * 4 = 292 MOD 12 = 4

indicates Cancer. Cancer and its trines can indicate marriage. Cancer Bhukti

could have given Vivaha (6-Jul-78 to 5-Apr-79). The official exchange of rings

took place on Nov 5, 1977 (perhaps Kshatriya type) and Vivaha took place much

later.

Example

3: Male, December 4, 1978, 4.54 pm, Bangalore

The Mahadasas are as

follows:

Ta:

4-Dec-78

- 4-Dec-83

Ar:

4-Dec-83

- 4-Dec-91

Pi:

4-Dec-91

- 4-Dec-00

Aq:

4-Dec-00

- 4-Dec-05

Cp:

4-Dec-05

- 4-Dec-10

Sg:

4-Dec-10

- 4-Dec-18

Sc:

4-Dec-18

- 4-Dec-22

Li:

4-Dec-22

- 4-Dec-34

Vi:

4-Dec-34

- 3-Dec-44

Le:

3-Dec-44

- 3-Dec-53

Cn:

3-Dec-53

- 4-Dec-59

Ge:

4-Dec-59

- 3-Dec-64

In Navamsa, Taurus is

UL. The 2nd and 7th signs are Taurus and Libra. Taurus is

influenced by Moon, but Libra is influenced by 2 planets, viz., Saturn and

Mars. Hence, Libra becomes powerful. Aquarius, Taurus and Leo aspect the sign

and becomes eligible to facilitate Marriage.

Let us consider Aquarius

Dasa. The Bhukti’s are as follows:

Li

4-Dec-00

- 5-May-01

Sc

5-May-01

- 4-Oct-01

Sg

4-Oct-01

- 5-Mar-02

Cp

5-Mar-02

- 4-Aug-02

Aq

4-Aug-02

- 3-Jan-03

Ps

3-Jan-03

- 5-Jun-03

Ar

5-Jun-03

- 4-Nov-03

Ta

4-Nov-03

- 4-Apr-04

Gm

4-Apr-04

- 3-Sep-04

Cn

3-Sep-04

- 2-Feb-05

Le

2-Feb-05

- 4-Jul-05

Vi

4-Jul-05

- 4-Dec-05

SP of Venus is 87 and it

has 5 bindus in the 7th from it.

87 * 5 = 435 MOD 12 = 3

indicates Gemini. Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces aspect Gemini and can

facilitate marriage.

Vivaha took place in the

month of August 2002 and the marriage took place in September 2002.

In above example, the

three charts give three different scenarios. Ashtakavarga Dasa beautifully

identifies the Vivaha time in this illusory world. Please note that the Dasa

system helps us identify the Brahmic marriage. In current times, marriage has

no meaning and the system fails in identifying such marriages.

Om

Tat Sat,

Raman Suprajarama

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Raman,

Namaste

This might have missed

your attention.

Love,

Swee

Dear Chandukaka,

As per what has been

told to me, it is applicable in similar fashion.

In his article on this,

Mr.Raman didn’t indicate the reason why it is called Ashtakavarga Graha

Dasha nor the source, infact since it is a Rasi Dasa, accordingly it should be

called Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasha.

In previous mail of 2

days back wherein I had sent 3 charts as examples, I had stated there that the

bhukti technique is not working only Main Period technique is working.

Speaking on marriage

timing, since 1.5 yrs I am trying to get hold of a work which gives through

mathematical model as to how to arrive at the marriage year, 100% success rate.

It is reputed to be a very famous technique from a senior astrologer in Delhi. Unfotunately I have

not been successful so far

Best wishes

SJ

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

Dear Sunil,

Is this applicable to

all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman Suprajarama indicate why it is called

Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the source? Appears to be more like Karaka dasha

to me. Of course I! could be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits in with

the method given for the first chart?

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John wrote:

Dear PVR,

Sashtanga Pranam

My Jhora is suddenly not

working today giving MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would have

attached charts & done more search on other charts. Pls ! find below rough

notes that i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa appeared

in an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman Suprajarama.

Although here he has

used it only to time Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has multiple uses

if Karaka is changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in this

article) - A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember what my village

astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in different order as karaka

would change.

Also, I wonder if the

dasa can be used! for general predictions along with SAV & PAV points to

judge the result of dasa and antar in ones life.

If you or anyone can

point out how to remove the MCS application error so that Jhora starts again in

my PC i shall be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated from

morning. tried reinstalling several times but not working.

best wishes

SJ

My notes

Astakvarga Graha Dasa

PREMISE

The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar to that of Chara

Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman Suprajarama has given pls

use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and duration just click to CHARA Dasa

(Parasara Schem! e) – tested this on the 2 charts given by Raman in the

Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara dasa

doesnt match with what Raman gave)

Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th 1973

Sign based dasa

Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also be used as it

denotes the four purposes of life (Dh! arma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha)

The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of Venus in the RASI

Chart

Each Dasa period is Split into 12 equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts from the

sign occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from that

sign

Step 1:

1.

Find out the UL Lagna in D9.

2.

The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th house indicates spouse. We

need to consider the stronger of the two houses

If

more planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger.

If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no planets) then the one

with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest.

If this condition is also not satisfied, then the nature of the sign is

studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed signs come next and moveable signs

are the least powerful.

Step 2

The dasa of the sign arrived (Computed Sign) under STEP 1 indicates Marriage.

It is also possible in the dasa of the signs aspecting the above Computed Sign

Step 3

Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step 2 (I think the ones aspecting the

computed sign) which have more than 30 bindus in SAV can indicate marriage.

Step 4

The Sodya Pinda of Venus and! the number of bindus in the 7th from Ven in

Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is divided by 12. The

remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage can take place in the Bhukti

of this sign or its Trines

Chart 1 From Dec 05

Astro Mag

Chart 1: 30th Aug, 1979

at 4.18 am at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc,

SC Nav

(Author Raman Suprajama

proved thro this dasa that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq Dasa, he

didn’t go into antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show the

dasa working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I think in

Chart 2)

Personal notes on Chart

1

1) chart from Dec 05 A.M

Ma! g. Pg 1022

2) Marriage - 19th Feb

05

3) Nav ASc seems correct

to what was given in the mag

Ahstakvarga Graha Dasa

Step 1. In D9 Ul in Ge,

2nd from it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehrea! s SG has none,

so Cn is stronger and

capable of giving marriage

Step 2. Ta, Sc & Aq

aspect this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of giving

marriage

Step 3: Also, the 3 signs

arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here none have

more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only 21 bindus

Special note SJ:

Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of giving

marriage strongly

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of

Ven = 147 & PAV of Ven is 3

both should be

multiplied - 147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the remainder is

9

which becomes

SAgitarrius as the reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the bhukti of

this sign or its trines

Final note: Step 3 &

4 didnt work in actual practice

Chart No 2

1) Chart from Dec 05 AM

mag, pg 1022

2) chart Details: 18th

Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38

b) Nav Asc here is

Virgo(thro jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the

article is from Raman

Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa

3) Marriage in Jan 1999

SJ Notes: If on! e

doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to this

dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on known charts

and using two different ayanamsas

a) Here take Raman

Ayanamsa and then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to

match what is given in

Dec 05 AM mag article by Raman Suprajama

b) Step1: UL comes in

Cancer, 2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since both

have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer, Jup or

its lord)

Step 2: Signs aspecting

Leo is AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage

Step 3: SAV bindus - Ar

is only 18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t

give marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is 7th house

of natal D9

Step 4: Sodya Pinda of

Ven=199 (whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven =1 (in mag

it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag gives 1414)

This 199 divide by 12,

remainder is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines which is Ge

or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work

SJ Notes: what Jhora

gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is completely differe! nt

from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using, don’t forget to write to

Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which software he is using .

" Narasimha P.V.R.

Rao " <pvr wrote:

Namaste Sunil,

I don't know of any

software that gives it.

If you share the

definition of this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my software

(Jagannatha Hora). Give a practi! cal example also, if you can.

Merry christmas and

happy new year to you too!

May Jupiter's light

shine on us,

Narasimha

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Ashtakavarga

Graha Dasa - astro software

Dear Learned Members,

Can anyone point out

which astro software calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa”

Shall be most grateful.

Btw, Merry Christmas to

everyone & may the coming year be full of wonderful productive experiences.

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

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December 27, 2005

Dear Swee/ Raman Suprajarama,

I am perhaps a bit dense, but I find what is passed as astakavarga

Dasha is in fact application of Chara dasha to Ashtakavarga. Or am I

totally not able to understand what is written?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Swee Chan wrote:

Dear Ms. Chan,

It is very

kind of you

to forward the discussions. Can you kindly forward this email to the

relevant

internet groups?

Warm regards,

Raman

Suprajarama

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Dear Friends,

I am glad

that the article

has aroused interest among the astrological family. It was father’s

desire and advice that the article be written.

A few

important points

have to be noted. The articles have been wrongly titled. The article

appearing

in our September 2005 issue is on Graha Dasa and that in our December

2005

issue is on Rasi Dasa.

We can

classify the Dasa

systems broadly into two categories. They are Rasi Dasa and Graha Dasa.

Vimshottari, Ashottari etc fall under Graha (Planets) Dasa and Chara,

Sthira,

Trikona etc fall under Rasi (Signs) Dasa.

Ashtakavarga

Dasa,

either Rasi based or Graha based, further falls under Gochara section.

There is

a difference between a natal fixed horoscope analysis and a gochara

analysis. I

will not be going in detail about the differences in this mail, but

will

definitely be speaking about them in the upcoming SJC Conference 2006.

Coming back

to

Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasa with respect the marriage, we need to first

understand

what “Vivaha” is. Vivaha

simply put means marriage. But in actual terms, it is much more that

mere

exchange of garlands, rings or tying the knot. Vivaha can be understood

as a

complete acceptance and respect of a male and female in terms of mind,

body,

soul etc. Gochara section helps us to identify such scenarios which are

reality

in the illusory world.

In the

amarakosha, Vivaha

comes under the Brahma Varga

and not under Kshatriya or other Vargas. If it had come

under

Kshatriya Varga, the term Vivaha can be understood as a physical union

for

gratification of senses or for mutual benefit. In current times, Living

Together relationships and the like fall under this category.

Vivaha,

falling under

Brahma Varga, means more than this. A couple might have exchanged

garlands and

signed the marriage register, but this does not amount to Vivaha. For

Vivaha to

take place, a mutual acceptance of Brahmic attributes is essential.

The following

three

examples might help in understanding the beauty of Ashtakavarga Rasi

Dasa. Some

have asked as to which Software I use for calculations. We use our own

software. However, for the benefit of members, in the current email, I

am using

the values calculated using Jagannatha Hora of Narasimha Rao. The

values are

quite accurate and reliable.

Example

1: Bill Gates, October 28, 1955 at 9:15:00 pm, Seattle

The Mahadasa

periods are

as follows (Chara Dasa):

Ge:

10/28/1955

- 10/28/1959

Ta:

10/28/1959

- 10/28/1964

Ar:

10/28/1964

- 10/28/1969

Pi:

10/28/1969

- 10/27/1976

Aq:

10/27/1976

- 10/28/1981

Cp:

10/28/1981

- 10/28/1985

Sg:

10/28/1985

- 10/28/1993

Sc:

10/28/1993

- 10/28/2003

Li:

10/28/2003

- 10/28/2015

Vi:

10/28/2015

- 10/28/2027

Le:

10/28/2027

- 10/27/2036

Cn:

10/27/2036

- 10/27/2040

In the

Navamsa, UL falls

in Leo. The 2nd house is Virgo and has the influence of Rahu

and

Ketu. The 7th house, Aquarius, is free of influences. Virgo

becomes

stronger. Sagittarius, Pisces and Gemini aspect Virgo and become

eligible to

facilitate marriage.

Let us

consider Sagittarius

Dasa. The bhuktis are as follows:

Li:

28-Oct-85

- 28-Jun-86

Sc:

28-Jun-86

- 27-Feb-87

Sg:

27-Feb-87

- 28-Oct-87

Cp:

28-Oct-87

- 28-Jun-88

Aq:

28-Jun-88

- 26-Feb-89

Ps:

26-Feb-89

- 28-Oct-89

Ar:

28-Oct-89

- 28-Jun-90

Ta:

28-Jun-90

- 27-Feb-91

Gm:

27-Feb-91

- 28-Oct-91

Cn:

28-Oct-91 -

28-Jun-92

Le:

28-Jun-92

- 26-Feb-93

Vi:

26-Feb-93

- 28-Oct-93

Sodya Pinda

of Venus is

186 and there 3 bindus in the 7th house from Venus in Binna

Ashtakavarga.

186 * 3 = 558

mod 12 = 6

indicating Virgo. Virgo and its trines can give marriage. Vivaha is

likely to

have taken place in Pisces-Virgo ie between 26-Feb-93 and 28-Oct-93.

The

official marriage, however took place on January 1, 1994.

Example 2:

George W

Bush, July 6, 1946 7:26:00 am, USA

Cn:

6-Jul-46

- 5-Jul-56

Le:

5-Jul-56

- 6-Jul-58

Vi:

6-Jul-58

- 5-Jul-60

Li:

5-Jul-60

- 5-Jul-69

Sc:

5-Jul-69

- 6-Jul-78

Sg:

6-Jul-78

- 6-Jul-87

Cp:

6-Jul-87

- 5-Jul-93

Aq:

5-Jul-93

- 5-Jul-00

Pi:

5-Jul-00

- 5-Jul-06

Ar:

5-Jul-06

- 5-Jul-10

Ta:

5-Jul-10

- 5-Jul-12

Ge:

5-Jul-12

- 5-Jul-13

In Navamsa,

UL falls in

Scorpio. Sagittarius and Taurus become eligible. Sagittarius has

Mercury and

becomes more powerful. Pisces, Gemini and Virgo aspect Sagittarius and

become

eligible to facilitate Marriage.

The bhuktis

in

Sagittarius Dasa are:

Cn:

6-Jul-78

- 5-Apr-79

Le:

5-Apr-79

- 4-Jan-80

Vi:

4-Jan-80

- 4-Oct-80

Li:

4-Oct-80

- 5-Jul-81

Sc:

5-Jul-81

- 5-Apr-82

Sg:

5-Apr-82

- 4-Jan-83

Cp:

4-Jan-83

- 5-Oct-83

Aq:

5-Oct-83

- 5-Jul-84

Ps:

5-Jul-84

- 5-Apr-85

Ar:

5-Apr-85

- 4-Jan-86

Ta:

4-Jan-86

- 5-Oct-86

Gm:

5-Oct-86

- 6-Jul-87

Sodya Pinda

of Venus I

73 and it has 4 bindus in the 7th from it.

73 * 4 = 292

MOD 12 = 4

indicates Cancer. Cancer and its trines can indicate marriage. Cancer

Bhukti

could have given Vivaha (6-Jul-78 to 5-Apr-79). The official exchange

of rings

took place on Nov 5, 1977 (perhaps Kshatriya type) and Vivaha took

place much

later.

Example

3: Male, December 4, 1978, 4.54 pm, Bangalore

The Mahadasas

are as

follows:

Ta:

4-Dec-78

- 4-Dec-83

Ar:

4-Dec-83

- 4-Dec-91

Pi:

4-Dec-91

- 4-Dec-00

Aq:

4-Dec-00

- 4-Dec-05

Cp:

4-Dec-05

- 4-Dec-10

Sg:

4-Dec-10

- 4-Dec-18

Sc:

4-Dec-18

- 4-Dec-22

Li:

4-Dec-22

- 4-Dec-34

Vi:

4-Dec-34

- 3-Dec-44

Le:

3-Dec-44

- 3-Dec-53

Cn:

3-Dec-53

- 4-Dec-59

Ge:

4-Dec-59

- 3-Dec-64

In Navamsa,

Taurus is

UL. The 2nd and 7th signs are Taurus and Libra.

Taurus is

influenced by Moon, but Libra is influenced by 2 planets, viz., Saturn

and

Mars. Hence, Libra becomes powerful. Aquarius, Taurus and Leo aspect

the sign

and becomes eligible to facilitate Marriage.

Let us

consider Aquarius

Dasa. The Bhukti’s are as follows:

Li

4-Dec-00

- 5-May-01

Sc

5-May-01

- 4-Oct-01

Sg

4-Oct-01

- 5-Mar-02

Cp

5-Mar-02

- 4-Aug-02

Aq

4-Aug-02

- 3-Jan-03

Ps

3-Jan-03

- 5-Jun-03

Ar

5-Jun-03

- 4-Nov-03

Ta

4-Nov-03

- 4-Apr-04

Gm

4-Apr-04

- 3-Sep-04

Cn

3-Sep-04

- 2-Feb-05

Le

2-Feb-05

- 4-Jul-05

Vi

4-Jul-05

- 4-Dec-05

SP of Venus

is 87 and it

has 5 bindus in the 7th from it.

87 * 5 = 435

MOD 12 = 3

indicates Gemini. Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces aspect Gemini and can

facilitate marriage.

Vivaha took

place in the

month of August 2002 and the marriage took place in September 2002.

In above

example, the

three charts give three different scenarios. Ashtakavarga Dasa

beautifully

identifies the Vivaha time in this illusory world. Please note that the

Dasa

system helps us identify the Brahmic marriage. In current times,

marriage has

no meaning and the system fails in identifying such marriages.

Om

Tat Sat,

Raman

Suprajarama

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Raman,

Namaste

This might

have missed

your attention.

Love,

Swee

Dear

Chandukaka,

As per what

has been

told to me, it is applicable in similar fashion.

In his

article on this,

Mr.Raman didn’t indicate the reason why it is called Ashtakavarga Graha

Dasha nor the source, infact since it is a Rasi Dasa, accordingly it

should be

called Ashtakavarga Rasi Dasha.

In previous

mail of 2

days back wherein I had sent 3 charts as examples, I had stated there

that the

bhukti technique is not working only Main Period technique is working.

Speaking on

marriage

timing, since 1.5 yrs I am trying to get hold of a work which gives

through

mathematical model as to how to arrive at the marriage year, 100%

success rate.

It is reputed to be a very famous technique from a senior astrologer in

Delhi.

Unfotunately I have

not been successful so far

Best wishes

SJ

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

Dear Sunil,

Is this

applicable to

all Karakas in similar fashion? Did Raman Suprajarama indicate why it

is called

Ashtaka varga Graha dasha and the source? Appears to be more like

Karaka dasha

to me. Of course I! could be wrong. Did you see whether the Bhukti fits

in with

the method given for the first chart?

Chandrashekhar.

Sunil John

wrote:

Dear PVR,

Sashtanga

Pranam

My Jhora is

suddenly not

working today giving MCS or MCF application error otherwise i would

have

attached charts & done more search on other charts. Pls ! find

below rough

notes that i prepared few days back with 2 chart examples. this dasa

appeared

in an article in Astrological Magazine and was written by Raman

Suprajarama.

Although here

he has

used it only to time Marriage, from what I remember this dasa has

multiple uses

if Karaka is changed & Arudha is changed (from what given here in

this

article) - A10 for career in D10 chart, this is as per what i remember

what my village

astrologer told me. Then the antars would start in different order as

karaka

would change.

Also, I

wonder if the

dasa can be used! for general predictions along with SAV & PAV

points to

judge the result of dasa and antar in ones life.

If you or

anyone can

point out how to remove the MCS application error so that Jhora starts

again in

my PC i shall be indebted, without that software i have been frustrated

from

morning. tried reinstalling several times but not working.

best wishes

SJ

My notes

Astakvarga

Graha Dasa

PREMISE

The Dasa order in Ahstakavarga Graha Dasa scheme is similar to that of

Chara

Dasha –(SJ- in order to match with what Raman Suprajarama has given pls

use Jhora and for Main Dasa order and duration just click to CHARA Dasa

(Parasara Schem! e) – tested this on the 2 charts given by Raman in the

Dec 05 AM mag & dasa order matches - KN Raos & Irangati's Chara

dasa

doesnt match with what Raman gave)

Start dasa calculation from the day one was born e.g May 11th 1973

Sign based dasa

Some scholars of the opinion that Trikona based dasa can also be used

as it

denotes the four purposes of life (Dh! arma, ARtha, Kama and Moksha)

The Bhuktis are calculated by considering the position of Venus in the

RASI

Chart

Each Dasa period is Split into 12 equal parts, the 1st bhukti starts

from the

sign occupied by Ven and the remaining follow in the REGULAR order from

that

sign

Step 1:

1.

Find out the UL Lagna in D9.

2.

The 2nd house from UL indicates family here and 7th house indicates

spouse. We

need to consider the stronger of the two houses

If

more planets are present in either of the houses that becomes stronger.

If both houses contain equal number of planets (or no planets) then the

one

with Mer or Jup or its LORD becomes the strongest.

If this condition is also not satisfied, then the nature of the sign is

studied, dual signs are MOST powerful, fixed signs come next and

moveable signs

are the least powerful.

Step 2

The dasa of the sign arrived (Computed Sign) under STEP 1 indicates

Marriage.

It is also possible in the dasa of the signs aspecting the above

Computed Sign

Step 3

Such of those Rasis, arrived at in Step 2 (I think the ones aspecting

the

computed sign) which have more than 30 bindus in SAV can indicate

marriage.

Step 4

The Sodya Pinda of Venus and! the number of bindus in the 7th from Ven

in

Prastharashtakvarga (PAV) are multiplied and the product is divided by

12. The

remainder represents the reference sign. Marriage can take place in the

Bhukti

of this sign or its Trines

Chart 1 From

Dec 05

Astro Mag

Chart 1: 30th

Aug, 1979

at 4.18 am at 12N59, 77E35, Can Asc, SC

Nav

(Author Raman

Suprajama

proved thro this dasa that Marriage Happened in Feb 19, 2005 in Aq

Dasa, he

didn’t go into antars in this chart, he only went till Step 2 to show

the

dasa working, I think he uses Raman Ayanamsa which would be seen I

think in

Chart 2)

Personal

notes on Chart

1

1) chart from

Dec 05 A.M

Ma! g. Pg 1022

2) Marriage -

19th Feb

05

3) Nav ASc

seems correct

to what was given in the mag

Ahstakvarga

Graha Dasa

Step 1. In D9

Ul in Ge,

2nd from it is Cn and Sg is 7th, Cn has two plaents wehrea! s SG has

none,

so Cn is

stronger and

capable of giving marriage

Step 2. Ta,

Sc & Aq

aspect this Computed sign which is Cancer, so all the 3 are capable of

giving

marriage

Step 3: Also,

the 3 signs

arrived at which have moer than 30 bindus can give marriage but here

none have

more than 25 bindus, infact Aq which gave marriage has only 21 bindus

Special note

SJ:

Aq has Ketu in it, which according to Jaimini - Ketu is capable of

giving

marriage strongly

Step 4: Sodya

Pinda of

Ven = 147 & PAV of Ven is 3

both should

be

multiplied - 147*3=441 then divided by 12, remainder is 9 - So the

remainder is

9

which becomes

SAgitarrius as the reference Sign, the marriage can take place in the

bhukti of

this sign or its trines

Final note:

Step 3 &

4 didnt work in actual practice

Chart No 2

1) Chart from

Dec 05 AM

mag, pg 1022

2) chart

Details: 18th

Jan, 1962, 21 hrs 23 mins at 26 N 27, 74 E 38

b) Nav Asc

here is

Virgo(thro jhora) but in mag it is Libra, I guess since the

article is

from Raman

Suprajamana, he must be using Raman Ayanamsa

3) Marriage

in Jan 1999

SJ Notes: If

on! e

doesn’t take the right ayanamsa then UL changes which is the key to

this

dasa, so one way to testing this technique could be using it on known

charts

and using two different ayanamsas

a) Here take

Raman

Ayanamsa and then only Libra lagna in D9 is arrived to

match what is

given in

Dec 05 AM mag article by Raman Suprajama

b) Step1: UL

comes in

Cancer, 2nd from it is Le with mer and 7th from it is Moon in Cp, since

both

have equal number of planets, Le is taken since it has Mer (either Mer,

Jup or

its lord)

Step 2: Signs

aspecting

Leo is AR, Libra and Cp - all 3 capable of giving marriage

Step 3: SAV

bindus - Ar

is only 18, Li is 31 and Cp is 45, though Cp is more capable it didn’t

give marriage whereas Aries/Aries gave marriage, maybe since Aries is

7th house

of natal D9

Step 4: Sodya

Pinda of

Ven=199 (whereas in magazine it is given 202) & 7th from PAV of Ven

=1 (in mag

it is 7). Multiply both = 199 (mag gives 1414)

This 199

divide by 12,

remainder is 7, so sign is Libra, so bhutki can be Libra and trines

which is Ge

or Aq, but infact bhukti was of Taurus - so technique doesn’t work

SJ Notes:

what Jhora

gives as Sodya Pinda and number of bindus in Ven PAV, is completely

differe! nt

from what Raman Suprajaramas software is using, don’t forget to write

to

Virendra who knows Raman so as to know which software he is using .

"Narasimha

P.V.R.

Rao" <pvr wrote:

Namaste Sunil,

I don't know

of any

software that gives it.

If you share

the

definition of this dasa or give a reference, I can try to add it in my

software

(Jagannatha Hora). Give a practi! cal example also, if you can.

Merry

christmas and

happy new year to you too!

May Jupiter's

light

shine on us,

Narasimha

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Sent:

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20, 2005 2:40 PM

Subject:

Ashtakavarga

Graha Dasa - astro software

Dear Learned

Members,

Can anyone

point out

which astro software calculates the “Ashtakavarga Graha Dasa”

Shall be most

grateful.

Btw, Merry

Christmas to

everyone & may the coming year be full of wonderful productive

experiences.

Regards,

Sunil John

Mumbai

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