Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bipin, Namaste I have also told you that your Mercury’s debility is cancelled. A cancellation is never as complete as a planet in its exaltation or swakshetra. Do your own chart by embedding in the D4 as well and include Mars’ play in your chart. How did you purchase your property? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Bipin Prag Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:18 AM [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha I have exactly a similar question to Swee, in that, my dispositor of A2 is also Mercury in debilitation. Mercury however is in parivartana with Jupiter, but with Jupiter as lord of 2nd (maraka house) & inauspicious 11th houses, and bhava karaka, does it not diminish its benefic influence. Incidentally, my A2 is influenced by Ju, Sa, Me and A8, A9, A5, A10, A11, A7, A6 – I haven’t seen any results of this yet or what should I make of these aspects Looking forward to your input Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:36 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Aacha J Jupiter also has direct aspect on the A2’s lord due to conjunction. What you have not answered is, does Mercury’s debilitation get cancelled due to this association? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:51 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee I was not talking about argala. I was talking about Rasi drishti best wishes partha On 5/23/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I don't understand: I think rasis having argala over A2 are the following: A10, A3, A4, A9, A6, A11. The Planets with rasi dristi are Jupiter and Rahu. The ascendant lord in own has argala over the A2. How did you get UL and A5? Please explain when Gulika is on the Lagna as well. Thank you. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Monday, May 23, 2005 7:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee What did i write? the influences of grahas on a2 and the arudha padas show how the wealth will come to buy property. Now see you have sun, rahu, jupiter, ketu, mercury, A11, A6, UL, A5, A8 all influencing your A2 Now we know how rich you are best wishes partha On 5/21/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Are you sure we should delineate from A2? My A2's dispositor is debilitated with Jupiter (own sign, of course J), unless Mercury's debility is cancelled due to Guru in its own sign? Do you take the lagna lord itself to indicate the self or AL? Both do not fit in my criteria as I bought my own property at 23 (which I have given away). Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Gaurav A4 shows the tangible elements. The house itself is shown by A4, it is not really an indicator of happiness that lies within. 4th house and the influences on 4th house show the happiness factor. Thus benefics influencing A4, show a beautiful house. The arudha padas aspecting A2 in d4 show from where the money comes(brothers, sisters, mother, boss, company, lease) etc to buy the properties. best wishes partha On 5/20/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Namaste Group, Hare Rama Krishna Some elementary questions if I may; Relevant houses in D charts show close-up of house significations. For example, 4th in rasi indicates, among other things, the happiness of house. In D4, the happiness from house/land/property is further indicated. A4 is the illusion of it, perhaps to be understood as what the world perceives of the land/house/property owned by the native. My confusion is: What do we mean by " happiness " ? Does lets say Venus or Lagna lord in 4th in D4 signify that the native is going to have massive houses/land/property etc or just merely that he is going to be happy in it, could be a Hut. What if in the same situation A4 is in malefic with malefic? Please clarify; Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Bipin We are talking about property(d-4) Now see in d-4 chart, first of all you have to identify whether you have good property or Not. This can be seen from A4, the planets aspecting A4(Rasi drishti). Now just imagine a guy having Venus+moon having strong connection to this A4 in d-4, he will have good property. the influences on A2 in D-4 will show how you will gather the money(supporters, friends, loans) to build the property. best wishes partha On 5/24/05, Bipin Prag <bipin.prag wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha I have exactly a similar question to Swee, in that, my dispositor of A2 is also Mercury in debilitation. Mercury however is in parivartana with Jupiter, but with Jupiter as lord of 2 nd (maraka house) & inauspicious 11th houses, and bhava karaka, does it not diminish its benefic influence. Incidentally, my A2 is influenced by Ju, Sa, Me and A8, A9, A5, A10, A11, A7, A6 – I haven't seen any results of this yet or what should I make of these aspects Looking forward to your input Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee ChanTuesday, May 24, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Aacha J Jupiter also has direct aspect on the A2's lord due to conjunction. What you have not answered is, does Mercury's debilitation get cancelled due to this association? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha SarathyTuesday, May 24, 2005 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee I was not talking about argala. I was talking about Rasi drishti best wishes partha On 5/23/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I don't understand: I think rasis having argala over A2 are the following: A10, A3, A4, A9, A6, A11. The Planets with rasi dristi are Jupiter and Rahu. The ascendant lord in own has argala over the A2. How did you get UL and A5? Please explain when Gulika is on the Lagna as well. Thank you. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha SarathyMonday, May 23, 2005 7:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee What did i write? the influences of grahas on a2 and the arudha padas show how the wealth will come to buy property. Now see you have sun, rahu, jupiter, ketu, mercury, A11, A6, UL, A5, A8 all influencing your A2 Now we know how rich you are best wishes partha On 5/21/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Are you sure we should delineate from A2? My A2's dispositor is debilitated with Jupiter (own sign, of course J), unless Mercury's debility is cancelled due to Guru in its own sign? Do you take the lagna lord itself to indicate the self or AL? Both do not fit in my criteria as I bought my own property at 23 (which I have given away). Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha SarathySaturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Gaurav A4 shows the tangible elements. The house itself is shown by A4, it is not really an indicator of happiness that lies within. 4th house and the influences on 4th house show the happiness factor. Thus benefics influencing A4, show a beautiful house. The arudha padas aspecting A2 in d4 show from where the money comes(brothers, sisters, mother, boss, company, lease) etc to buy the properties. best wishes partha On 5/20/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Namaste Group, Hare Rama Krishna Some elementary questions if I may; Relevant houses in D charts show close-up of house significations. For example, 4th in rasi indicates, among other things, the happiness of house. In D4, the happiness from house/land/property is further indicated. A4 is the illusion of it, perhaps to be understood as what the world perceives of the land/house/property owned by the native. My confusion is: What do we mean by " happiness " ? Does lets say Venus or Lagna lord in 4th in D4 signify that the native is going to have massive houses/land/property etc or just merely that he is going to be happy in it, could be a Hut. What if in the same situation A4 is in malefic with malefic? Please clarify; Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Swee & Partha Thanks for the clarification and putting things into perspective for me. I was always under the impression that parivartana would cancel debilitation, but meaning to minimize rather than cancel its effects completely. As regards property, I see how A4 and Mars is casting aspect as well. I guess Ill have to wait for the dashas to bring me that ‘palace’ J Swee, as you know, that this year I ventured into property consulting, so this further supports why this will work well. Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:30 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Bipin We are talking about property(d-4) Now see in d-4 chart, first of all you have to identify whether you have good property or Not. This can be seen from A4, the planets aspecting A4(Rasi drishti). Now just imagine a guy having Venus+moon having strong connection to this A4 in d-4, he will have good property. the influences on A2 in D-4 will show how you will gather the money(supporters, friends, loans) to build the property. best wishes partha On 5/24/05, Bipin Prag <bipin.prag wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha I have exactly a similar question to Swee, in that, my dispositor of A2 is also Mercury in debilitation. Mercury however is in parivartana with Jupiter, but with Jupiter as lord of 2 nd (maraka house) & inauspicious 11th houses, and bhava karaka, does it not diminish its benefic influence. Incidentally, my A2 is influenced by Ju, Sa, Me and A8, A9, A5, A10, A11, A7, A6 – I haven't seen any results of this yet or what should I make of these aspects Looking forward to your input Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:36 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Aacha J Jupiter also has direct aspect on the A2's lord due to conjunction. What you have not answered is, does Mercury's debilitation get cancelled due to this association? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:51 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee I was not talking about argala. I was talking about Rasi drishti best wishes partha On 5/23/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I don't understand: I think rasis having argala over A2 are the following: A10, A3, A4, A9, A6, A11. The Planets with rasi dristi are Jupiter and Rahu. The ascendant lord in own has argala over the A2. How did you get UL and A5? Please explain when Gulika is on the Lagna as well. Thank you. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Monday, May 23, 2005 7:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee What did i write? the influences of grahas on a2 and the arudha padas show how the wealth will come to buy property. Now see you have sun, rahu, jupiter, ketu, mercury, A11, A6, UL, A5, A8 all influencing your A2 Now we know how rich you are best wishes partha On 5/21/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Are you sure we should delineate from A2? My A2's dispositor is debilitated with Jupiter (own sign, of course J), unless Mercury's debility is cancelled due to Guru in its own sign? Do you take the lagna lord itself to indicate the self or AL? Both do not fit in my criteria as I bought my own property at 23 (which I have given away). Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Gaurav A4 shows the tangible elements. The house itself is shown by A4, it is not really an indicator of happiness that lies within. 4th house and the influences on 4th house show the happiness factor. Thus benefics influencing A4, show a beautiful house. The arudha padas aspecting A2 in d4 show from where the money comes(brothers, sisters, mother, boss, company, lease) etc to buy the properties. best wishes partha On 5/20/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Namaste Group, Hare Rama Krishna Some elementary questions if I may; Relevant houses in D charts show close-up of house significations. For example, 4th in rasi indicates, among other things, the happiness of house. In D4, the happiness from house/land/property is further indicated. A4 is the illusion of it, perhaps to be understood as what the world perceives of the land/house/property owned by the native. My confusion is: What do we mean by " happiness " ? Does lets say Venus or Lagna lord in 4th in D4 signify that the native is going to have massive houses/land/property etc or just merely that he is going to be happy in it, could be a Hut. What if in the same situation A4 is in malefic with malefic? Please clarify; Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Bipin, Is something related to your wife a hindrance? I guess she's a reasonably spiritual woman; you'll have noticed the parivartana between LL, 4L and 9L, but..... well, she'll be very steadfastly supportive and all that, but you need to tell us whether she's in a way an impediment. I dunno why I can't take my eyes off lagna, A6 and Sa all being in the same places in D-1 and D-4..... Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 5/24/05, Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: Dear Bipin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bipin, I think Moon or Venus will bless you with a palatial abode. Mars’ influence on A4 or the planet indicating property (in your chart) can indicate your preferences for a house built with red bricks, in stones and slate if Saturn influences it etc. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Bipin Prag Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:08 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Swee & Partha Thanks for the clarification and putting things into perspective for me. I was always under the impression that parivartana would cancel debilitation, but meaning to minimize rather than cancel its effects completely. As regards property, I see how A4 and Mars is casting aspect as well. I guess Ill have to wait for the dashas to bring me that ‘palace’ J Swee, as you know, that this year I ventured into property consulting, so this further supports why this will work well. Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:30 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Bipin We are talking about property(d-4) Now see in d-4 chart, first of all you have to identify whether you have good property or Not. This can be seen from A4, the planets aspecting A4(Rasi drishti). Now just imagine a guy having Venus+moon having strong connection to this A4 in d-4, he will have good property. the influences on A2 in D-4 will show how you will gather the money(supporters, friends, loans) to build the property. best wishes partha On 5/24/05, Bipin Prag <bipin.prag wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha I have exactly a similar question to Swee, in that, my dispositor of A2 is also Mercury in debilitation. Mercury however is in parivartana with Jupiter, but with Jupiter as lord of 2 nd (maraka house) & inauspicious 11th houses, and bhava karaka, does it not diminish its benefic influence. Incidentally, my A2 is influenced by Ju, Sa, Me and A8, A9, A5, A10, A11, A7, A6 – I haven't seen any results of this yet or what should I make of these aspects Looking forward to your input Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:36 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Aacha J Jupiter also has direct aspect on the A2's lord due to conjunction. What you have not answered is, does Mercury's debilitation get cancelled due to this association? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:51 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee I was not talking about argala. I was talking about Rasi drishti best wishes partha On 5/23/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I don't understand: I think rasis having argala over A2 are the following: A10, A3, A4, A9, A6, A11. The Planets with rasi dristi are Jupiter and Rahu. The ascendant lord in own has argala over the A2. How did you get UL and A5? Please explain when Gulika is on the Lagna as well. Thank you. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Monday, May 23, 2005 7:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee What did i write? the influences of grahas on a2 and the arudha padas show how the wealth will come to buy property. Now see you have sun, rahu, jupiter, ketu, mercury, A11, A6, UL, A5, A8 all influencing your A2 Now we know how rich you are best wishes partha On 5/21/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Are you sure we should delineate from A2? My A2's dispositor is debilitated with Jupiter (own sign, of course J), unless Mercury's debility is cancelled due to Guru in its own sign? Do you take the lagna lord itself to indicate the self or AL? Both do not fit in my criteria as I bought my own property at 23 (which I have given away). Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Gaurav A4 shows the tangible elements. The house itself is shown by A4, it is not really an indicator of happiness that lies within. 4th house and the influences on 4th house show the happiness factor. Thus benefics influencing A4, show a beautiful house. The arudha padas aspecting A2 in d4 show from where the money comes(brothers, sisters, mother, boss, company, lease) etc to buy the properties. best wishes partha On 5/20/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Namaste Group, Hare Rama Krishna Some elementary questions if I may; Relevant houses in D charts show close-up of house significations. For example, 4th in rasi indicates, among other things, the happiness of house. In D4, the happiness from house/land/property is further indicated. A4 is the illusion of it, perhaps to be understood as what the world perceives of the land/house/property owned by the native. My confusion is: What do we mean by " happiness " ? Does lets say Venus or Lagna lord in 4th in D4 signify that the native is going to have massive houses/land/property etc or just merely that he is going to be happy in it, could be a Hut. What if in the same situation A4 is in malefic with malefic? Please clarify; Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swee Spot On J – The existing structure of my house is in light brown face brick. One day when I get may palace, we can host an SJC Conference there – now that would be cool. Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:31 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bipin, I think Moon or Venus will bless you with a palatial abode. Mars’ influence on A4 or the planet indicating property (in your chart) can indicate your preferences for a house built with red bricks, in stones and slate if Saturn influences it etc. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Bipin Prag Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:08 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Swee & Partha Thanks for the clarification and putting things into perspective for me. I was always under the impression that parivartana would cancel debilitation, but meaning to minimize rather than cancel its effects completely. As regards property, I see how A4 and Mars is casting aspect as well. I guess Ill have to wait for the dashas to bring me that ‘palace’ J Swee, as you know, that this year I ventured into property consulting, so this further supports why this will work well. Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:30 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Bipin We are talking about property(d-4) Now see in d-4 chart, first of all you have to identify whether you have good property or Not. This can be seen from A4, the planets aspecting A4(Rasi drishti). Now just imagine a guy having Venus+moon having strong connection to this A4 in d-4, he will have good property. the influences on A2 in D-4 will show how you will gather the money(supporters, friends, loans) to build the property. best wishes partha On 5/24/05, Bipin Prag <bipin.prag wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha I have exactly a similar question to Swee, in that, my dispositor of A2 is also Mercury in debilitation. Mercury however is in parivartana with Jupiter, but with Jupiter as lord of 2 nd (maraka house) & inauspicious 11th houses, and bhava karaka, does it not diminish its benefic influence. Incidentally, my A2 is influenced by Ju, Sa, Me and A8, A9, A5, A10, A11, A7, A6 – I haven't seen any results of this yet or what should I make of these aspects Looking forward to your input Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:36 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Aacha J Jupiter also has direct aspect on the A2's lord due to conjunction. What you have not answered is, does Mercury's debilitation get cancelled due to this association? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:51 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee I was not talking about argala. I was talking about Rasi drishti best wishes partha On 5/23/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I don't understand: I think rasis having argala over A2 are the following: A10, A3, A4, A9, A6, A11. The Planets with rasi dristi are Jupiter and Rahu. The ascendant lord in own has argala over the A2. How did you get UL and A5? Please explain when Gulika is on the Lagna as well. Thank you. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Monday, May 23, 2005 7:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee What did i write? the influences of grahas on a2 and the arudha padas show how the wealth will come to buy property. Now see you have sun, rahu, jupiter, ketu, mercury, A11, A6, UL, A5, A8 all influencing your A2 Now we know how rich you are best wishes partha On 5/21/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Are you sure we should delineate from A2? My A2's dispositor is debilitated with Jupiter (own sign, of course J), unless Mercury's debility is cancelled due to Guru in its own sign? Do you take the lagna lord itself to indicate the self or AL? Both do not fit in my criteria as I bought my own property at 23 (which I have given away). Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Gaurav A4 shows the tangible elements. The house itself is shown by A4, it is not really an indicator of happiness that lies within. 4th house and the influences on 4th house show the happiness factor. Thus benefics influencing A4, show a beautiful house. The arudha padas aspecting A2 in d4 show from where the money comes(brothers, sisters, mother, boss, company, lease) etc to buy the properties. best wishes partha On 5/20/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Namaste Group, Hare Rama Krishna Some elementary questions if I may; Relevant houses in D charts show close-up of house significations. For example, 4th in rasi indicates, among other things, the happiness of house. In D4, the happiness from house/land/property is further indicated. A4 is the illusion of it, perhaps to be understood as what the world perceives of the land/house/property owned by the native. My confusion is: What do we mean by " happiness " ? Does lets say Venus or Lagna lord in 4th in D4 signify that the native is going to have massive houses/land/property etc or just merely that he is going to be happy in it, could be a Hut. What if in the same situation A4 is in malefic with malefic? Please clarify; Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramapriya No, my wife Radha, is not a hinderence at all – she is very supportive in all my various interests as long as I balance the family time. Do you see in Rasi, the Sun as Lord of 5th in Moolatrikona at almost 10 deg – I guess she’s my strength, what do they say about who is behind every man. To answer your other question, she is also spiritual I would interested in that hunch you have regards Lagna, A6 and Saturn. Not only are those in same positions, but Ju, Ra & Ke are also with both Mo & Ve remaining in kendras – ive never looked at d-4 chart before – so find it interesting and fascinating like everything in my chart Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Ramapriya D Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:27 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Bipin, Is something related to your wife a hindrance? I guess she's a reasonably spiritual woman; you'll have noticed the parivartana between LL, 4L and 9L, but..... well, she'll be very steadfastly supportive and all that, but you need to tell us whether she's in a way an impediment. I dunno why I can't take my eyes off lagna, A6 and Sa all being in the same places in D-1 and D-4..... Respects, Ramapriya ayirpamar On 5/24/05, Partha Sarathy <partvinu wrote: Dear Bipin ******************************************************************* The e-mail and attachments are confidential and intended only for selected recipients. If you have received it in error, you may not in any way disclose or rely on the contents. You may not keep, copy or distribute the e-mail. Should you receive it, immediately notify the sender of the error and delete the e-mail.Also note that this form of communication is not secure, it can be intercepted, and may not necessarily be free of errors and viruses in spite of reasonable efforts to secure this medium. ******************************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Namaste Pratha Ji/learned, Lets say lord of A4 is a Natural malefic, but is in A4, would that in theory mean, that the person may have substantial properties, but they will be non-palacial or ugly( for lack of a better word) ? namaste Gaurav Jain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bipin, Namaste You are already in your ND exalted co-lord of D-4 period until 2008. Time your income from the movable rasis (I opt for 2007 timing, looking at TP). In your D-4, your Moon (palatial building) and Mars (land) are in exchange. Libra period for 1 year is probably going to be the best year. Do the timing on fixed rasis, though the parivatana may change things a bit. Sarvarth Chintamani states that the 4th house, if in a movable sign, gives the native many houses in various places and if it is fixed, it will keep the person in 1 place. Looking at mine, the 4th is a fixed sign, but its lord is in a Dual sign. A Dual sign generally indicates no fixed abode. The fact that Mercury is in a watery sign also indicates that most of my properties have to face a water body or be close to one. Now I regret selling my condo at Umhlanga, Durban (Edge of the Sea). I romantically would love to live in India by the Yamuna River (or next best in Phuket; seasonally) while my husband’s plans are to retire at Malmesbury (with 2 other partners in the business). When we next meet, bring your Bakkie along, else we can use Diana’s. The drive up to the mountain to absorb its breath taking view over the Atlantic Ocean is well worth the schelpp, though my eyes feast on those King Proteas along the way. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Bipin Prag Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:03 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Jaya Jagannatha Dear Swee Spot On J – The existing structure of my house is in light brown face brick. One day when I get may palace, we can host an SJC Conference there – now that would be cool. Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:31 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Jaya Jagannatha Dear Bipin, I think Moon or Venus will bless you with a palatial abode. Mars’ influence on A4 or the planet indicating property (in your chart) can indicate your preferences for a house built with red bricks, in stones and slate if Saturn influences it etc. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Bipin Prag Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:08 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Swee & Partha Thanks for the clarification and putting things into perspective for me. I was always under the impression that parivartana would cancel debilitation, but meaning to minimize rather than cancel its effects completely. As regards property, I see how A4 and Mars is casting aspect as well. I guess Ill have to wait for the dashas to bring me that ‘palace’ J Swee, as you know, that this year I ventured into property consulting, so this further supports why this will work well. Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:30 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Dear Bipin We are talking about property(d-4) Now see in d-4 chart, first of all you have to identify whether you have good property or Not. This can be seen from A4, the planets aspecting A4(Rasi drishti). Now just imagine a guy having Venus+moon having strong connection to this A4 in d-4, he will have good property. the influences on A2 in D-4 will show how you will gather the money(supporters, friends, loans) to build the property. best wishes partha On 5/24/05, Bipin Prag <bipin.prag wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha I have exactly a similar question to Swee, in that, my dispositor of A2 is also Mercury in debilitation. Mercury however is in parivartana with Jupiter, but with Jupiter as lord of 2 nd (maraka house) & inauspicious 11th houses, and bhava karaka, does it not diminish its benefic influence. Incidentally, my A2 is influenced by Ju, Sa, Me and A8, A9, A5, A10, A11, A7, A6 – I haven't seen any results of this yet or what should I make of these aspects Looking forward to your input Regards Bipin On Behalf Of Swee Chan Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:36 AM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Aacha J Jupiter also has direct aspect on the A2's lord due to conjunction. What you have not answered is, does Mercury's debilitation get cancelled due to this association? Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:51 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee I was not talking about argala. I was talking about Rasi drishti best wishes partha On 5/23/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste I don't understand: I think rasis having argala over A2 are the following: A10, A3, A4, A9, A6, A11. The Planets with rasi dristi are Jupiter and Rahu. The ascendant lord in own has argala over the A2. How did you get UL and A5? Please explain when Gulika is on the Lagna as well. Thank you. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Monday, May 23, 2005 7:07 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Swee What did i write? the influences of grahas on a2 and the arudha padas show how the wealth will come to buy property. Now see you have sun, rahu, jupiter, ketu, mercury, A11, A6, UL, A5, A8 all influencing your A2 Now we know how rich you are best wishes partha On 5/21/05, Swee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Partha, Namaste Are you sure we should delineate from A2? My A2's dispositor is debilitated with Jupiter (own sign, of course J), unless Mercury's debility is cancelled due to Guru in its own sign? Do you take the lagna lord itself to indicate the self or AL? Both do not fit in my criteria as I bought my own property at 23 (which I have given away). Love, Swee On Behalf Of Partha Sarathy Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:09 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] regarding D charts Dear Gaurav A4 shows the tangible elements. The house itself is shown by A4, it is not really an indicator of happiness that lies within. 4th house and the influences on 4th house show the happiness factor. Thus benefics influencing A4, show a beautiful house. The arudha padas aspecting A2 in d4 show from where the money comes(brothers, sisters, mother, boss, company, lease) etc to buy the properties. best wishes partha On 5/20/05, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote: Namaste Group, Hare Rama Krishna Some elementary questions if I may; Relevant houses in D charts show close-up of house significations. For example, 4th in rasi indicates, among other things, the happiness of house. In D4, the happiness from house/land/property is further indicated. A4 is the illusion of it, perhaps to be understood as what the world perceives of the land/house/property owned by the native. My confusion is: What do we mean by " happiness " ? Does lets say Venus or Lagna lord in 4th in D4 signify that the native is going to have massive houses/land/property etc or just merely that he is going to be happy in it, could be a Hut. What if in the same situation A4 is in malefic with malefic? Please clarify; Gaurav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Sir, Sa is DK, in 2h and A6 is popularly known as shatrupada. I was only wrong, as usual. Don't forget to check out the D-10 ND too, yea? Respects, Ramapriya On 5/24/05, Bipin Prag <bipin.prag wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ramapriya No, my wife Radha, is not a hinderence at all – she is very supportive in all my various interests as long as I balance the family time. Do you see in Rasi, the Sun as Lord of 5 th in Moolatrikona at almost 10 deg – I guess she's my strength, what do they say about who is behind every man. To answer your other question, she is also spiritual I would interested in that hunch you have regards Lagna, A6 and Saturn. Not only are those in same positions, but Ju, Ra & Ke are also with both Mo & Ve remaining in kendras – ive never looked at d-4 chart before – so find it interesting and fascinating like everything in my chart Regards Bipin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste In your rasi, the 4th and 2nd are in parivatana, hence a mixed influence of properties. In D-4 the influence on A2 is Sun (father). The rasi dristi, grahas influencing this are both Venus and Moon (grand property). A4’s lords are both in them, so will indicate a period house or traditional/old fashioned house. Aquarius also denotes a place with very extreme (cold climate). Mars and Ketu’s influence on them would indicate warm climate and multi storied building. Looking at the ND of D4, Cp is running right now, so time from Fixed rasi with the planets in them having a say. (Ta, Le or Sc) Love, Swee On Behalf Of yobrevol Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:31 PM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation Namaste Pratha Ji/learned, Lets say lord of A4 is a Natural malefic, but is in A4, would that in theory mean, that the person may have substantial properties, but they will be non-palacial or ugly( for lack of a better word) ? namaste Gaurav Jain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 hare Rama Krishna Namaste Swee Ji, I understand. However my question is given natural and temporal relationships of planets, how do we determine "denial" of property? Based on my developing understanding of notes in the help section of JhoraLite on divisional arudhas, I would have concluded denial of property in my case given great malefics such as rahu + sat. How do we look at multiple properties owned by a person? Now back to D4 in my chart, notice the parivartana between venus & mercury. lord of A2 is Jup debilitated in 11th capricorn. Just to put things in perspective, below is a ND sequence when a property in my name was bought by my father. However, It is by far the opposite of the description you gave. Can you please shed some light on that... If my understanding is correct however, there is another one coming up during cp<sc<ta. Narayana Dasa of D-4 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Cp MD: 1996-07-02 (2:55:47 pm) - 2007-07-03 (10:31:13 am) Sc AD: 2004-10-04 (12:01:45 am) - 2005-09-03 (12:50:21 pm) Sc PD: 2005-02-17 (4:36:51 am) - 2005-03-16 (2:47:24 pm) Sc SD: 2005-02-28 (1:51:15 pm) - 2005-03-02 (8:40:13 pm) Le PAD: 2005-02-28 (10:59:11 pm) - 2005-03-01 (3:33:10 am) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Dear Swee I wanted to ask if i can have big Jyotish and meditation ashrams in the various parts of the world. My A4 is in Sagi with Moon and aspected by Mercury.(in d4) Is it possible? best wishes partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Gaurav, > > Namaste > > In your rasi, the 4th and 2nd are in parivatana, hence a mixed influence of > properties. In D-4 the influence on A2 is Sun (father). The rasi dristi, > grahas influencing this are both Venus and Moon (grand property). A4's lords > are both in them, so will indicate a period house or traditional/old > fashioned house. Aquarius also denotes a place with very extreme (cold > climate). Mars and Ketu's influence on them would indicate warm climate and > multi storied building. > Looking at the ND of D4, Cp is running right now, so time from Fixed rasi > with the planets in them having a say. (Ta, Le or Sc) > > Love, > > Swee > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of yobrevol@a... > Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:31 PM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation > > Namaste Pratha Ji/learned, > > Lets say lord of A4 is a Natural malefic, but is in A4, would that in theory > mean, that the person may have substantial properties, but they will be > non-palacial or ugly( for lack of a better word) ? > > namaste > Gaurav Jain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste Your question of denial of property is dependent on 2 things. The 8th either from the Lagna, Moon or Sun, depending on which is stronger, is to be seen for inheritance. The 4th from either the Lagna etc., and Mars promises your own fixed assets. If it is fixed, the person will most probably stay in one place. If it is movable, many properties in different parts (of the world); Dual sign, will also indicate several/multiple where the person has to travel to. The 3rd shows if you will lease out these properties. In mine, you can clearly see I do not rent any of mine. In your ND of Cp, look at the timing in Sc (fixed), Mars is also in a fixed sign and it aspects its own sign. Probabilities are that the property bought in your name was in a warm climate (India). The next is Aquarius. The exchange between Venus and Mercury indicates a property with mixed influence. This property will be in a cold climate, and may cost a lot more and close to where you are currently staying. Time this for 2009. Your D4 ascendant lord is debilitated, so a lot more efforts have to go in from your side. I can’t see that you will be getting any more properties on your own. A basic rule to remember: When a planet is in its own sign etc., it protects its own house and significations. If a house is empty basic indications of the sign/house is indicated. Invest in the Varga Chakra book and read up on BPHS. Love, Swee On Behalf Of yobrevol Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:05 AM Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation hare Rama Krishna Namaste Swee Ji, I understand. However my question is given natural and temporal relationships of planets, how do we determine " denial " of property? Based on my developing understanding of notes in the help section of JhoraLite on divisional arudhas, I would have concluded denial of property in my case given great malefics such as rahu + sat. How do we look at multiple properties owned by a person? Now back to D4 in my chart, notice the parivartana between venus & mercury. lord of A2 is Jup debilitated in 11th capricorn. Just to put things in perspective, below is a ND sequence when a property in my name was bought by my father. However, It is by far the opposite of the description you gave. Can you please shed some light on that... If my understanding is correct however, there is another one coming up during cp<sc<ta. Narayana Dasa of D-4 chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa): Cp MD: 1996-07-02 (2:55:47 pm) - 2007-07-03 (10:31:13 am) Sc AD: 2004-10-04 (12:01:45 am) - 2005-09-03 (12:50:21 pm) Sc PD: 2005-02-17 (4:36:51 am) - 2005-03-16 (2:47:24 pm) Sc SD: 2005-02-28 (1:51:15 pm) - 2005-03-02 (8:40:13 pm) Le PAD: 2005-02-28 (10:59:11 pm) - 2005-03-01 (3:33:10 am) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Dear Swee Dont say that mother, i have already faced so many tragedies :-(( love partha , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Partha, > > Namaste > > Your 4th house is 8th from AL with GL, whose Lord is well placed in the 5th. > In your D4, AL is in the house of ashram :-) and the 4th lord is in the > ascendant (own sign). I don't why your dreams cannot be fulfilled from 2017. > I am just sorry I won't be around to join in your meditation and pranic > healing sessions. > > Love, > > Swee > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of V.Partha sarathy > Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:20 AM > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation > > Dear Swee > > I wanted to ask if i can have big Jyotish and meditation ashrams in > the various parts of the world. > My A4 is in Sagi with Moon and aspected by Mercury.(in d4) > Is it possible? > best wishes > partha > > > , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Gaurav, > > > > Namaste > > > > In your rasi, the 4th and 2nd are in parivatana, hence a mixed > influence of > > properties. In D-4 the influence on A2 is Sun (father). The rasi > dristi, > > grahas influencing this are both Venus and Moon (grand property). > A4's lords > > are both in them, so will indicate a period house or traditional/old > > fashioned house. Aquarius also denotes a place with very extreme > (cold > > climate). Mars and Ketu's influence on them would indicate warm > climate and > > multi storied building. > > Looking at the ND of D4, Cp is running right now, so time from > Fixed rasi > > with the planets in them having a say. (Ta, Le or Sc) > > > > Love, > > > > Swee > > > > _____ > > > > [sJC- > Africa ] On > > Behalf Of yobrevol@a... > > Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:31 PM > > > > Re: [Jaya Jagannatha] Mercury's Debilitation > > > > Namaste Pratha Ji/learned, > > > > Lets say lord of A4 is a Natural malefic, but is in A4, would that > in theory > > mean, that the person may have substantial properties, but they > will be > > non-palacial or ugly( for lack of a better word) ? > > > > namaste > > Gaurav Jain > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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