Planets ruling addiction to alcohol

January 5, 2006

Hi senthal,i am a novice Non gyani and illeterate out

of this group.I am a Neurologist by profession,few

medical suggestions.Your father first has to admit

that there is a problem with Drinking first.He needs

to see the medical doctors to get his liver

checked,vitamin defeciebcies selectively the B complex

group.He would need counselling as cold turkey you

cant quit and chances of Relapse is very

high.Serotonin selective reuotake inhibitors are good

and effective meds i.e prozac,paxil or zoloft.May need

Aversion therapy i.e Bupropion or in severe cases

Naltrexone.If there are any other medical questions

send me a e-mail at manjitc Gobinder

s chopra,MD.

--- Senthil Adaikappan <findsenthil wrote:

> Dear Gurus and members,

>

> Whatever I am writing may seem to be trivial, but

> " Alcohol " is a

> demon which ruines the family and in turn the

> soceity. A person when

> gets addicted to that does not concentrate on his

> business and also

> family and always enjoying the company of friends

> who spoil

> themselves and others family too. I am presenting

> the case, where

> our family is getting ruined by day due to my

> father's addictive

> drinking habit and also that his health is spoiled.

> Already Doctor

> had warned him about Kolestrol, pressure and

> diabetes, inspite of

> that he is with some bad company taking this demon

> and not leaving

> it. I couldnt resist myself in saying this as I

> couldnt concentrate

> on my job search and worried about these things. It

> is very painful

> for the family.

>

> Members any one could help me predict when he will

> leave this habit

> and act as a responsible head of our family. What

> are the planets

> ruling this addiction. What remedies will make him

> back to normal

> way. I am willing to do remedies. I love my father

> and I want him to

> be healthy and leave this habit and the company of

> the such friends.

>

> Your help will be greatful to a family which is

> looking for peace.

>

> My fathers date of Birth

>

> 24 Feb 1957

>

> 17:56 (Time not exact by 3 or 4 min not sure)

>

> Karaikudi, India 78 47 E and 10 4 N

>

> My Date of birth

>

> 06 Nov 1978

>

> 00:29:10

>

> Chennai, India

>

________

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January 9, 2006

Hi Ramapriya,

Thanks for your reply. No, Alcoholism was set in even before 1995

like around 1989. really worse during 1992-1995. Afterwards too, but

after 2000, somewhat lessened but not what we expected. But Can you

plz tell me what is to be watched moments in RAHU AK during March

2009. Does dasa has a huge impact on such habits. Please let me

know. When there will be a change in it.

Also Gurus and Jyothishas please help.

Thanks

Senthil

sohamsa , Ramapriya D <ayirpamar@g...> wrote:

>

> On 1/5/06, Senthil Adaikappan <findsenthil> wrote:

> >

> > Members any one could help me predict when he will leave this

habit

> > and act as a responsible head of our family.

>

> Dear Senthil,

>

> Just for my own education, has his alcoholism set in by 1995 end

and get

> really bad 2000 onwards? March 2003 onwards must have been

particularly

> awful, looking at his chart (attached). Total relief will come in

2016, I'd

> hazard a guess. And be prepared for some testing times onwards of

March 09

> when he runs his AK Rahu dasa :\

>

> You'll have to seek out the gurus here for remedies; until then,

Vishnu

> Sahasranaamam will stand you and your family in good stead.

>

> All the best

>

> Ramapriya

> ayirpamar@g...

>

January 9, 2006

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Senthil,

Namaskar

This chart

is very unfortunate. The planets in the second house are causing the yoga, and

being that this is also a preta-yoga, it could be triggered due to the demise

of a maternal relative, or even mother, whose last rites have not been

performed propperly. So for starters, check if the shraddha has been performed

propperly, to appease the pitris.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

Senthil

Adaikappan [findsenthil]

09 January 2006 18:23

sohamsa

Re: Planets

ruling addiction to alcohol

Hi Ramapriya,

Thanks for your reply. No, Alcoholism was set in

even before 1995

like around 1989. really worse during 1992-1995.

Afterwards too, but

after 2000, somewhat lessened but not what we

expected. But Can you

plz tell me what is to be watched moments in

RAHU AK

during March

2009. Does dasa has a huge impact on such habits.

Please let me

know. When there will be a change in it.

Also Gurus and Jyothishas please help.

Thanks

Senthil

sohamsa , Ramapriya D

<ayirpamar@g...> wrote:

>

> On 1/5/06, Senthil Adaikappan

<findsenthil> wrote:

> >

> > Members any one could help me predict

when he will leave this

habit

> > and act as a responsible head of our

family.

>

> Dear Senthil,

>

> Just for my own education, has his alcoholism

set in by 1995 end

and get

> really bad 2000 onwards? March 2003 onwards

must have been

particularly

> awful, looking at his chart (attached). Total

relief will come in

2016, I'd

> hazard a guess. And be prepared for some

testing times onwards of

March 09

> when he runs his AK Rahu dasa :\

>

> You'll have to seek out the gurus here for

remedies; until then,

Vishnu

> Sahasranaamam will stand you and your family

in good stead.

>

> All the best

>

> Ramapriya

> ayirpamar@g...

>

January 10, 2006

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Visti,

You probably meant 4H where Saturn and Rahu are conjoined. The house is also aspected by Mars. What is a good way to time it? Sethil's information indicates that problem started in Vimsottari dasa of Mars - Rahu. How did the problem reduce during 2000 onwards when he was running Rahu-Saturn dasa? Is Vimsottari the best dasa to use for this?

Dear Ram,

Isn't he running Rahu MD from 95 onwards?

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenMonday, January 09, 2006 2:42 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Planets ruling addiction to alcohol

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Senthil, Namaskar

This chart is very unfortunate. The planets in the second house are causing the yoga, and being that this is also a preta-yoga, it could be triggered due to the demise of a maternal relative, or even mother, whose last rites have not been performed propperly. So for starters, check if the shraddha has been performed propperly, to appease the pitris.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

Senthil Adaikappan [findsenthil] 09 January 2006 18:23sohamsa Subject: Re: Planets ruling addiction to alcohol

Hi Ramapriya,Thanks for your reply. No, Alcoholism was set in even before 1995 like around 1989. really worse during 1992-1995. Afterwards too, but after 2000, somewhat lessened but not what we expected. But Can you plz tell me what is to be watched moments in RAHU AK during March 2009. Does dasa has a huge impact on such habits. Please let me know. When there will be a change in it.Also Gurus and Jyothishas please help.ThanksSenthilsohamsa , Ramapriya D <ayirpamar@g...> wrote:>> On 1/5/06, Senthil Adaikappan <findsenthil> wrote:> >> >> > Members any one could help me predict when he will leave this habit> > and act as a responsible head of our family.> > > Dear Senthil,> > Just for my own education, has his alcoholism set in by 1995 end and get> really bad 2000 onwards? March 2003 onwards must have been particularly> awful, looking at his chart (attached). Total relief will come in 2016, I'd> hazard a guess. And be prepared for some testing times onwards of March 09> when he runs his AK Rahu dasa :\> > You'll have to seek out the gurus here for remedies; until then, Vishnu> Sahasranaamam will stand you and your family in good stead.> > All the best> > Ramapriya> ayirpamar@g...>

January 15, 2006

kreem kaalike svaaha Dear Senthil, SanjayP & Jyotishas, I took a look at the chart. In my opinion, Cancer Lagna makes more sense than Leo! Firstly, for addiction to manifest, Moon (mana) should be afflicted. Secondly, one would expectthe 5th house of Chitta (loosely transalated as thinking or judgement) to be affected! With Leo Lagna, Moon is strong in the 5th house and strongly aspected by 5th lord Jupiter! This justdoesnt make any sense to me, hence my recomendation to change Lagna to Cancer! With Cancer Lagna, the 5th house is afflicted by Saturn & Rahu, and further, Moon goes to 6th houseaspected by 6th Lord Jupiter. Further, in Rudramsa, check the 2nd and 6th house. With Cancer Lagna in D1, we get Scorpio Rudramsarising, with Mars in 2nd house and Saturn in 6th house! I was looking for strong Saturnine (Alcohol & Addiction) influence , and indeed we have Saturn in 6th house showing its evil influence on the native!!! Look at Rahu in the 11th house, is interesting. Being the 11th house, it shows punishment, further, it being Atmakaraka, can be very intensive!! Remedy lies in worshipping the Ishta Devata as the AK is involved here! Ishta Devata is Mercury conjoined with Moon in Leo in Navamsa. But, I would like to point out that native has Venus in 4th from AK in Navamsa, and Venus aspects Rasi Lagna and Moon lords it, these 2 planets also influences D20 Lagna lord! Further Note, Venus is also the 4th lord in Rasi (Healing) with Sun in Aquarius (ruled by Saturn), and Saturn is also the Palana Devata Karaka being the strongest planet in 6th from AmK Mercury in D9. Taking all this into consideration, it makes sense for the native to worship MahaKali for relief from this addiction and for a better health for the future. Good Luck!Warm RegardsNarayansohamsa , "Senthil Adaikappan" <findsenthil> wrote:>> Hi Ramapriya,> > Thanks for your reply. No, Alcoholism was set in even before 1995 > like around 1989. really worse during 1992-1995. Afterwards too, but > after 2000, somewhat lessened but not what we expected. But Can you > plz tell me what is to be watched moments in RAHU AK during March > 2009. Does dasa has a huge impact on such habits. Please let me > know. When there will be a change in it.> > Also Gurus and Jyothishas please help.> > Thanks> > Senthil> > > > sohamsa , Ramapriya D ayirpamar@g... wrote:> >> > On 1/5/06, Senthil Adaikappan findsenthil wrote:> > >> > >> > > Members any one could help me predict when he will leave this > habit> > > and act as a responsible head of our family.> > > > > > Dear Senthil,> > > > Just for my own education, has his alcoholism set in by 1995 end > and get> > really bad 2000 onwards? March 2003 onwards must have been > particularly> > awful, looking at his chart (attached). Total relief will come in > 2016, I'd> > hazard a guess. And be prepared for some testing times onwards of > March 09> > when he runs his AK Rahu dasa :\> > > > You'll have to seek out the gurus here for remedies; until then, > Vishnu> > Sahasranaamam will stand you and your family in good stead.> > > > All the best> > > > Ramapriya> > ayirpamar@g...> >>

January 16, 2006

:: Hare Rama Krsna :: Dear Narayan, I would disagree with you about the reasons for why people take to alcohol. You say that you would expect the Chitta to be afflicted, but alcoholism is usually an emotional response rather than a mistake of judgement. There are many who drink, who are intelligent people, and know it to be wrong, but drink anyway to escape feeling in certain ways. With Leo Lagna, 4th house of happiness is severly afflicted and Rahu aspects the Moon. These conditions are sufficient to say the person will have a lot of sorrow - why they take to alcohol we will have to see other related combinations. Respectfully, Michal :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote: kreem kaalike

svaaha Dear Senthil, SanjayP & Jyotishas, I took a look at the chart. In my opinion, Cancer Lagna makes more sense than Leo! Firstly, for addiction to manifest, Moon (mana) should be afflicted. Secondly, one would expectthe 5th house of Chitta (loosely transalated as thinking or judgement) to be affected! With Leo Lagna, Moon is strong in the 5th house and strongly aspected by 5th lord Jupiter! This justdoesnt make any sense to me, hence my recomendation to change Lagna to Cancer! With Cancer Lagna, the 5th house is afflicted by Saturn & Rahu, and further, Moon goes to 6th houseaspected by 6th Lord Jupiter. Further, in Rudramsa, check the 2nd and 6th house. With Cancer Lagna in D1, we get Scorpio Rudramsarising, with Mars in 2nd house and Saturn in 6th house! I was

looking for strong Saturnine (Alcohol & Addiction) influence , and indeed we have Saturn in 6th house showing its evil influence on the native!!! Look at Rahu in the 11th house, is interesting. Being the 11th house, it shows punishment, further, it being Atmakaraka, can be very intensive!! Remedy lies in worshipping the Ishta Devata as the AK is involved here! Ishta Devata is Mercury conjoined with Moon in Leo in Navamsa. But, I would like to point out that native has Venus in 4th from AK in Navamsa, and Venus aspects Rasi Lagna and Moon lords it, these 2 planets also influences D20 Lagna lord! Further Note, Venus is also the 4th lord in Rasi (Healing) with Sun in Aquarius (ruled by Saturn), and Saturn is also the Palana Devata Karaka being the strongest planet in 6th from AmK Mercury in D9. Taking all this into consideration, it makes sense for the native to worship MahaKali for

relief from this addiction and for a better health for the future. Good Luck!Warm RegardsNarayansohamsa , "Senthil Adaikappan" <findsenthil> wrote:>> Hi Ramapriya,> > Thanks for your reply. No, Alcoholism was set in even before 1995 > like around 1989. really worse during 1992-1995. Afterwards too, but > after 2000, somewhat lessened but not what we expected. But Can you > plz tell me what is to be watched moments in RAHU AK during March > 2009. Does dasa has a huge impact on such habits. Please let me > know. When there will be a change in it.> > Also Gurus and Jyothishas please help.> > Thanks> > Senthil> > > > sohamsa , Ramapriya D ayirpamar@g... wrote:> >> > On 1/5/06, Senthil Adaikappan findsenthil wrote:>

> >> > >> > > Members any one could help me predict when he will leave this > habit> > > and act as a responsible head of our family.> > > > > > Dear Senthil,> > > > Just for my own education, has his alcoholism set in by 1995 end > and get> > really bad 2000 onwards? March 2003 onwards must have been > particularly> > awful, looking at his chart (attached). Total relief will come in > 2016, I'd> > hazard a guess. And be prepared for some testing times onwards of > March 09> > when he runs his AK Rahu dasa :\> > > > You'll have to seek out the gurus here for remedies; until then, > Vishnu> > Sahasranaamam will stand you and your family in good stead.> > > > All the best> > > > Ramapriya> > ayirpamar@g...>

>>

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January 17, 2006

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Narayan and Jyotishas,

Narayan has bought in different perspective to the entire chart.

Now my opinion is , Alcohol consuming population is very high nowadays.

And everyone who drinks alcohol does excess sometime or the other.

During those times the person can be self damaging and or damaging

others around.

The question is how bad is this particular native. If there is a severe

psychological problem which is leading to alcoholism then there is a

possibility of 5th being heavily afflicted. If the person is just

consuming alcohol as a means to avoid depression then it may be

different issue. More information is hence needing.

Hence I prefer Personal interaction with the Native while consulting on such matters.

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

On 1/16/06, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

:: Hare Rama Krsna :: Dear Narayan, I would

disagree with you about the reasons for why people take to

alcohol. You say that you would expect the Chitta to be

afflicted, but alcoholism is usually an emotional response rather than

a mistake of judgement. There are many who drink, who are

intelligent people, and know it to be wrong, but drink anyway to escape

feeling in certain ways. With Leo Lagna, 4th house of happiness

is severly afflicted and Rahu aspects the Moon. These conditions

are sufficient to say the person will have a lot of sorrow - why they

take to alcohol we will have to see other related combinations. Respectfully, Michal :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::

naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote:

kreem kaalike

svaaha Dear Senthil, SanjayP & Jyotishas, I took a look at the chart. In my opinion, Cancer Lagna makes more sense than Leo! Firstly, for addiction to manifest, Moon (mana) should be afflicted. Secondly, one would expect

the 5th house of Chitta (loosely transalated as thinking or judgement) to be affected! With Leo Lagna, Moon is strong in the 5th house and strongly aspected by 5th lord Jupiter! This just

doesnt make any sense to me, hence my recomendation to change Lagna to Cancer! With Cancer Lagna, the 5th house is afflicted by Saturn & Rahu, and further, Moon goes to 6th houseaspected by 6th Lord Jupiter.

Further, in Rudramsa, check the 2nd and 6th house. With Cancer Lagna in D1, we get Scorpio Rudramsarising,

with Mars in 2nd house and Saturn in 6th house! I was looking for

strong Saturnine (Alcohol & Addiction) influence , and indeed we

have Saturn in 6th house showing its evil influence on the native!!! Look

at Rahu in the 11th house, is interesting. Being the 11th house, it

shows punishment, further, it being Atmakaraka, can be very intensive!! Remedy

lies in worshipping the Ishta Devata as the AK is involved here! Ishta

Devata is Mercury conjoined with Moon in Leo in Navamsa. But, I would

like to point out that native has Venus in 4th from AK in Navamsa, and

Venus aspects Rasi Lagna and Moon lords it, these 2 planets also

influences D20 Lagna lord! Further Note,

Venus is also the 4th lord in Rasi (Healing) with Sun in Aquarius

(ruled by Saturn), and Saturn is also the Palana Devata Karaka being

the strongest planet in 6th from AmK Mercury in D9. Taking all this

into consideration, it makes sense for the native to worship MahaKali for

relief from this addiction and for a better health for the future. Good Luck!Warm RegardsNarayan

sohamsa , " Senthil Adaikappan " <findsenthil> wrote:>> Hi Ramapriya,> > Thanks for your reply. No, Alcoholism was set in even before 1995 > like around 1989. really worse during 1992-1995. Afterwards too, but > after 2000, somewhat lessened but not what we expected. But Can you > plz tell me what is to be watched moments in RAHU AK during March > 2009. Does dasa has a huge impact on such habits. Please let me > know. When there will be a change in it.> > Also Gurus and Jyothishas please help.> > Thanks> > Senthil> > > >

sohamsa , Ramapriya D ayirpamar@g... wrote:> >> > On 1/5/06, Senthil Adaikappan findsenthil wrote:>

> >> > >> > > Members any one could help me predict when he will leave this > habit> > > and act as a responsible head of our family.> > > > > > Dear Senthil,

> > > > Just for my own education, has his alcoholism set in by 1995 end > and get> > really bad 2000 onwards? March 2003 onwards must have been > particularly> > awful, looking at his chart (attached). Total relief will come in > 2016, I'd> > hazard a guess. And be prepared for some testing times onwards of > March 09> > when he runs his AK Rahu dasa :\> > > > You'll have to seek out the gurus here for remedies; until then, > Vishnu> > Sahasranaamam will stand you and your family in good stead.> > > > All the best> > > > Ramapriya> > ayirpamar@g...>

>>

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January 17, 2006

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Namaste Jyotishas,

Does anyone have cases of confirmed alcoholics?.

I am presenting a case below.

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

Chart Details:

The Lagna is Cancer for Sure. I kept it at zero degree cancer so you can try all divisional variations.

Person Details:

Never Married.

Engineering Graduate/ Technology profession.

Regular Consumer of Alcohol (has occasionally also tried other form of drugs and intoxicating) herbs.

Like to gamble.

Unfortunately Since 6 planets are in 6th. One cannot really say whether

4th and 4th kaaraka Moon affliction is the cause.

Or

5th affliction is the cause.

But I Think 4th affliction is more severe.

Case of Regular Alcohol Consumer

Natal Chart

December 16, 1963

Time: 8:10:24 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

Bombay, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Shobhana - Pushya

Tithi: Sukla Pratipat (Su) (52.19% left)

Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)

Nakshatra: Moola (Ke) (52.67% left)

Yoga: Ganda (Sa) (48.36% left)

Karana: Kimstughna (Ma) (4.38% left)

Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn)

Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Sg)

Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Mercury)

Sunrise: 7:04:08 am

Sunset: 6:03:37 pm

Janma Ghatis: 32.7606

Ayanamsa: 23-20-56.23

Sidereal Time: 1:09:48

Body

Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi

Navamsa

Lagna

0 Cn 00' 05.77 " Puna 4

Cn Cn

Sun -

DK

0 Sg 34' 26.16 " Mool 1

Sg Ar

Moon -

GK 6

Sg 18' 39.62 " Mool 2

Sg Ta

Mars - PiK 15 Sg

13' 20.42 " PSha 1

Sg Le

Mercury - BK 20 Sg 40' 25.91 "

PSha 3 Sg Li

Jupiter - MK 16 Pi 24' 22.24 "

UBha 4 Pi Sc

Venus - AK 27 Sg

45' 37.15 " USha 1

Sg Sg

Saturn - AmK 25 Cp 38' 06.58 "

Dhan 1 Cp Le

Rahu - PK

18 Ge 49' 17.36 " Ardr 4

Ge Pi

Ketu

18 Sg 49' 17.36 " PSha 2

Sg Vi

Maandi

23 Ge 30' 43.44 " Puna 2

Ge Ta

Gulika

23 Ge 30' 43.44 " Puna 2

Ge Ta

Bhava Lagna 16 Ge 34'

53.58 " Ardr 3

Ge Aq

Hora Lagna

3 Cp 08' 41.85 " USha 2

Cp Cp

Ghati Lagna 22 Le 50'

06.67 " PPha 3

Le Li

Vighati Lagna 1 Sc 17' 10.79 "

Visa 4 Sc Cn

Varnada Lagna 0 Ar 00' 05.77 "

Aswi 1 Ar Ar

Sree Lagna 20 Sg

23' 55.61 " PSha 3

Sg Li

Pranapada Lagna 1 Pi 50' 31.65 "

PBha 4 Pi Cn

Indu Lagna

6 Pi 18' 39.62 " UBha 1

Pi Le

Dhooma

13 Ar 54' 26.16 " Bhar 1

Ar Le

Vyatipata

16 Pi 05' 33.84 " UBha 4

Pi Sc

Parivesha

16 Vi 05' 33.84 " Hast 2

Vi Ta

Indra Chapa 13 Li 54'

26.16 " Swat 3

Li Aq

Upaketu

0 Sc 34' 26.16 " Visa 4

Sc Cn

Kaala

19 Le 00' 11.69 " PPha 2

Le Vi

Mrityu

5 Li 08' 56.24 " Chit 4

Li Sc

Artha Prahara 27 Li 27' 17.11 "

Visa 3 Li Ge

Yama Ghantaka 19 Sc 14' 34.17 "

Jye 1

Sc Sg

Prana Sphuta 23 Vi 31' 12.31 "

Chit 1 Vi Le

Deha Sphuta 14 Sg 00'

00.43 " PSha 1

Sg Le

Mrityu Sphuta 15 Cn 09' 30.23 "

Push 4 Cn Sc

Sookshma TriSphuta 22 Vi 40' 42.97 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

TriSphuta

29 Ta 49' 28.84 " Mrig 2

Ta Vi

ChatusSphuta 0 Aq 23'

54.99 " Dhan 3

Aq Li

PanchaSphuta 19 Ar 13' 12.36 "

Bhar 2 Ar Vi

V2

0 Cn 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Cn Cn

V3

0 Le 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Le Le

V4

0 Sc 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Sc Sc

V5

0 Sg 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Sg Sg

V6

0 Pi 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Pi Pi

V7

0 Ar 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Ar Ar

V8

0 Cn 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Cn Cn

V9

0 Le 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Le Le

V10

0 Sc 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Sc Sc

V11

0 Sg 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Sg Sg

V12

0 Pi 00' 05.77 " Aswi 1

Pi Pi

Kunda

0 Cn 07' 47.66 " Puna 4

Cn Cn

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Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

Ket Ket 1960-08-24 Ven 1961-01-18 Sun 1962-03-19

Moon 1962-07-27 Mars 1963-02-23 Rah 1963-07-24

Jup 1964-08-12 Sat 1965-07-18 Merc 1966-08-28

Ven Ven 1967-08-25 Sun 1970-12-23 Moon 1971-12-23

Mars 1973-08-24 Rah 1974-10-25 Jup 1977-10-25

Sat 1980-06-22 Merc 1983-08-25 Ket 1986-06-23

Sun Sun 1987-08-25 Moon 1987-12-12 Mars 1988-06-10

Rah 1988-10-18 Jup 1989-09-12 Sat 1990-06-29

Merc 1991-06-11 Ket 1992-04-15 Ven 1992-08-24

Moon Moon 1993-08-24 Mars 1994-06-23 Rah 1995-01-22

Jup 1996-07-24 Sat 1997-11-24 Merc 1999-06-23

Ket 2000-11-23 Ven 2001-06-23 Sun 2003-02-20

Mars Mars 2003-08-25 Rah 2004-01-19 Jup 2005-02-05

Sat 2006-01-13 Merc 2007-02-21 Ket 2008-02-18

Ven 2008-07-18 Sun 2009-09-18 Moon 2010-01-22

Rah Rah 2010-08-25 Jup 2013-05-04 Sat 2015-10-01

Merc 2018-08-06 Ket 2021-02-20 Ven 2022-03-10

Sun 2025-03-10 Moon 2026-02-03 Mars 2027-08-06

Jup Jup 2028-08-24 Sat 2030-10-13 Merc 2033-04-22

Ket 2035-07-31 Ven 2036-07-05 Sun 2039-03-05

Moon 2039-12-24 Mars 2041-04-22 Rah 2042-03-29

Sat Sat 2044-08-25 Merc 2047-08-28 Ket 2050-05-04

Ven 2051-06-14 Sun 2054-08-16 Moon 2055-07-28

Mars 2057-02-23 Rah 2058-04-04 Jup 2061-02-08

Merc Merc 2063-08-25 Ket 2066-01-19 Ven 2067-01-16

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Rah 2073-02-17 Jup 2075-09-10 Sat 2077-12-15

On 1/17/06, Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote:

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Narayan and Jyotishas,

Narayan has bought in different perspective to the entire chart.

Now my opinion is , Alcohol consuming population is very high nowadays.

And everyone who drinks alcohol does excess sometime or the other.

During those times the person can be self damaging and or damaging

others around.

The question is how bad is this particular native. If there is a severe

psychological problem which is leading to alcoholism then there is a

possibility of 5th being heavily afflicted. If the person is just

consuming alcohol as a means to avoid depression then it may be

different issue. More information is hence needing.

Hence I prefer Personal interaction with the Native while consulting on such matters.

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

On 1/16/06, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

> wrote:

:: Hare Rama Krsna :: Dear Narayan, I would

disagree with you about the reasons for why people take to

alcohol. You say that you would expect the Chitta to be

afflicted, but alcoholism is usually an emotional response rather than

a mistake of judgement. There are many who drink, who are

intelligent people, and know it to be wrong, but drink anyway to escape

feeling in certain ways. With Leo Lagna, 4th house of happiness

is severly afflicted and Rahu aspects the Moon. These conditions

are sufficient to say the person will have a lot of sorrow - why they

take to alcohol we will have to see other related combinations. Respectfully, Michal :: Om Namo Narayanaya ::

naaraayana_iyer <jaimini.upadesa wrote:

kreem kaalike

svaaha Dear Senthil, SanjayP & Jyotishas, I took a look at the chart. In my opinion, Cancer Lagna makes more sense than Leo! Firstly, for addiction to manifest, Moon (mana) should be afflicted. Secondly, one would expect

the 5th house of Chitta (loosely transalated as thinking or judgement) to be affected! With Leo Lagna, Moon is strong in the 5th house and strongly aspected by 5th lord Jupiter! This just

doesnt make any sense to me, hence my recomendation to change Lagna to Cancer! With Cancer Lagna, the 5th house is afflicted by Saturn & Rahu, and further, Moon goes to 6th house

aspected by 6th Lord Jupiter.