Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

[Guest guest]

Respected Ramdasji, Visti & Hari

 

So my guess was correct that Sanjayji used to take lot of Tea when he

was in service. even i myself is trying to reduceit and partly

successfull in avoiding no.s of tea cups/day.

 

actually, i take Hot Tea to actiavte my brain & body and many times

to release the work pressuer as i have no other habits to fall back

upon such as Ciggarate, Alchohol, Snuff, etc..

 

I dare to speculate here that Sanjayji must have left Tea started

taking cofee instead due to following reasons

1) Healh problems due to tea (mostly B.P)

2) If tea is no there, atleast coffee (Hot Stuff) which can work

inplace of tea.

 

but the point is that Mars has shown his influence here.

 

regards

 

utpal

 

sohamsa , Jyotisa Shisya <achyutagaddi@g...>

wrote:

> ||om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Sri Ramadas, namaste

> Further inputs to what Visti gave: Nowadays Sanjay almost never

takes tea.

> He takes tea only when the coffee is so bad or not available.

> He likes fairly strong & hot coffee (always cafe au lait; thats

coffee with

> milk; very rarely black coffee) and occasionally with a little

vanilla or

> caramel thrown in. He has very good memories of how I prepared

coffee for

> him, LOL. Ugh! is the word that would come to his tongue.

> Of course, coffee contains more caffeine than tea and there is

always the

> nicotine to keep his mind on the intellectual planes....Jagannath

not

> withstanding. The addiction to coffee is described by the aspect of

Saturn

> on lagna in Sanjays chart....my chart is a *counter*example in this

regard.

> regards

> Hari

>

>

> On 9/6/05, Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > *||Hare Rama Krsna||*

> >

> > Dear Ramadas, Namaskar

> >

> > I've been following Sanjay around since 2002/2003. so in 2/3

years, i've

> > only seen him drink tea three times... in total. I like your work

on Bhojana

> > prasna... please continue it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

[Guest guest]

om bhurbhuvahsvah brihaspataye namah

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

I think I wrote that smoking is the act of inhaling smoke which is governed by Ketu. And I explained that Ketu shows smoke due to heat. In any case, with Sanjays mail, things are somewhat better defined now.

 

 

Why one smokes is a different issue.

 

regards

Hari

 

On 9/12/05, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

> Ketu is the smoke and that is what I said. I never said that Ketu is the> karaka for smoking.

But Hari said so. Because you seemed to agree with Hari, I thought you too thought so. My apologies and thank you for clarifying your views!

 

Even in his latest mail, Hari wrote: " it is logical to see that Ketu is the karaka for smoking " . (Sorry Hari, I will have to skip replying to your mail due to paucity of time.)

 

 

BTW, when looking at Ketu as smoke, it is enlightening to read what Sri Ramadas Rao wrote on that.

 

> A single planet in a stand alone situation cannot indicate the addiction. If> Ketu aspects the lagna then it shows that *smoke* has something to do with> your likes and dislikes and has a strong impact on you.

 

 

That makes more sense. However, is lagna supposed to show likes and dislikes or paka lagna? And, does Ketu's aspect only throw light on liking/disliking " smoke " ? Aren't there so many other things that Ketu signifies?

 

 

When dealing with smoking, why start with smoke and Ketu? Why not start with the basic fact that it is a mental weakness and an addiction and find the root cause that way?

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> om namo bhagavate vasudevaya> > Dear Narasimha> Ketu is the smoke and that is what I said. I never said that Ketu is the> karaka for smoking. Ketu shows the item being inhaled. Its Rasa is to be

> seen from the planets affecting Ketu. > > Smoking is an addiction caused by nicotine going into the blood (Moon) and> thereby afecting the blood. This is ruled by a weakness in the chat> indicated by Saturn. The addiction of smoking comes from Saturn and the item

> being inhaled is indicated by Ketu. If the item through which the addiction> is coming is jala tatwa then it can show alcoholism while a Rahu indication> indicates dangerous drugs and psychotropic substances.

> > A single planet in a stand alone situation cannot indicate the addiction. If> Ketu aspects the lagna then it shows that *smoke* has something to do with> your likes and dislikes and has a strong impact on you. If Saturn is showing

> an addiction then you enjoy the addiction of smoking while if Saturn is> positive then you hate smoking.> > Take the charts ofRema and Voja to understand this. Let them post the charts> and I will show the difference were Ketu has a strong connection to lagna

> and Saturn will then determine love (addiction!) or hate.> > With best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> * * *> Sri Jagannath CenterR> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India> <http://srath.com/

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

> * * *

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Dear All Namaste

 

I started with the question "Why Sanjay ji smokes?" But if you read

the mails which I wrote to Hari ji you will find that I spcifically

requested for astrological reason for that. I dont know why people

equated smoking with morality?

I first said that

>>Can you (all) tell me

analysing

> > Sanjayji's chart,why he smokes?

 

I even gave my little understanding that he must have carried it form

his past birth. I may be wrong in my analysis but I simply put my

astrological point of views like this.

 

>>Has he carried it from his past

life?

>>AL in D-60

> > is aspected by all malefics! Mars aspecting Lagna and Rahu

>>aspecting lagna

> > lord moon. The moon is 3rd from AL and hence may show death

due to

>>disease

> > related to lungs! What do you say?

 

To this I got the reply like this.

 

> So you think that all those yogis

are wrong to smoke? Gajananan

Maharaj and

> Shirdi Sai used to smoke the chillum if I am not mistaken. Do you

think that

> if one smokes, that is a tamasic act? It is all in the mind that

these gunas

> are created. A person who is steeped in satva guna will remain so

even if he

> smokes.

 

Although there was no astrological reference, I replied with

 

>I agree that Sanjay ji is in Satva guna inspite of

being invloved in

>heavy smoking. What about astrological reasoning for that? Lets not

 

>get into the debate whether smoking is satva or tamas. Let me say

in a

>different way. It is usually seen that the person who is good at

>vedas,Purans and other Dharmik shahstras keeps himself away from

>smoking. Sanjay ji is excpetion to this. This is what I want to

reason

>out astrologically.

 

>So my basic quetion is why Sanjay ji smokes? Please give your

>valuable inputs Hari ji.

 

I was again asking for astrological reasoning for Sanjay ji's smoking

activity.

 

To this I got the reply as

 

Ketu is karak of smoking and one extremly weak argument.

 

I did not feel that ketu is karak of smoking and hence objected. On the

weak argument I thought that suggesting smoking as tool to increase

intelligence and break sarpa dosha is not very good thing. So I

objected to that. When I did this I was termed as 'putting morality and

becoming personal or streaching tooo far'. When Narsimha said that he

was thanked for the advice! See the effect of Arudha!

 

 

In the mails which I have written I never said that Sanjay ji's smoking

is good or bad(I only said that it is tamasic act) and never talked

about moral aspect of it. But all of a

sudden many started saying that "I dont care why Sanjay smokes?" I

did not understand why people are clarifying this? May be they thought

that by putting this question I tried to act smart. It may have been

true had I started the discussions in non-astrological fashion. We

usually take known charts for the analysis so I picked

up Sanjay ji chart. I had no intentions of acting smart. I apologise

for not being very clear and creating doubts about my intentions.

 

On the second thought about do I care for Sanjay ji's

smoking(non-astrologically!)? Answer to this will be Yes and No both.

No because he does not require duffer like me to know all these things.

Yes because as a friend if I dont alert him about

possible danger and simply overlook by saying it is none of my

bussiness, I may not be faithful in my friendship.

 

I once again apologise If by any chance I hurt anybody's sentiments in

this regard.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

Jyotisa Shisya wrote:

 

om bhurbhuvahsvah brihaspataye namah

 

Dear Narasimha,

 

I think I wrote that smoking is the act of

inhaling smoke which is governed by Ketu. And I explained that Ketu

shows smoke due to heat. In any case, with Sanjays mail, things are

somewhat better defined now.

 

 

Why one smokes is a different issue.

 

regards

Hari

 

 

 

On 9/12/05, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

> Ketu is the smoke and

that is what I said. I never said that Ketu is the

> karaka for smoking.

 

But Hari said so. Because you

seemed to agree with Hari, I thought you too thought so. My apologies

and thank you for clarifying your views!

 

Even in his latest mail, Hari

wrote: "it is logical to see that Ketu is the karaka for smoking".

(Sorry Hari, I will have to skip replying to your mail due to paucity

of time.)

 

 

BTW, when looking at Ketu as

smoke, it is enlightening to read what Sri Ramadas Rao wrote on that.

 

> A single planet in a stand

alone situation cannot indicate the addiction. If

> Ketu aspects the lagna then it shows that *smoke* has something to

do with

> your likes and dislikes and has a strong impact on you.

 

 

That makes more sense. However, is

lagna supposed to show likes and dislikes or paka lagna? And, does

Ketu's aspect only throw light on liking/disliking "smoke"? Aren't

there so many other things that Ketu signifies?

 

 

When dealing with smoking, why

start with smoke and Ketu? Why not start with the basic fact that it is

a mental weakness and an addiction and find the root cause that way?

 

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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> om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

>

> Dear Narasimha

> Ketu is the smoke and that is what I said. I never said that Ketu

is the

> karaka for smoking. Ketu shows the item being inhaled. Its Rasa is

to be

 

> seen from the planets affecting Ketu.

>

> Smoking is an addiction caused by nicotine going into the blood

(Moon) and

> thereby afecting the blood. This is ruled by a weakness in the chat

> indicated by Saturn. The addiction of smoking comes from Saturn

and the item

 

> being inhaled is indicated by Ketu. If the item through which the

addiction

> is coming is jala tatwa then it can show alcoholism while a Rahu

indication

> indicates dangerous drugs and psychotropic substances.

 

>

> A single planet in a stand alone situation cannot indicate the

addiction. If

> Ketu aspects the lagna then it shows that *smoke* has something to

do with

> your likes and dislikes and has a strong impact on you. If Saturn

is showing

 

> an addiction then you enjoy the addiction of smoking while if

Saturn is

> positive then you hate smoking.

>

> Take the charts ofRema and Voja to understand this. Let them post

the charts

> and I will show the difference were Ketu has a strong connection

to lagna

 

> and Saturn will then determine love (addiction!) or hate.

>

> With best wishes and warm regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> * * *

> Sri Jagannath CenterR

> 15B Gangaram Hospital Road

> New Delhi 110060, India

> <http://srath.com/

> http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

 

> * * *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

|| Om Gurave Namah : Om Namo Narayanaya ||

 

Respected Gurus & friends,

 

May I suggest that we divide the question in to two parts:

 

1. Addiction

 

2. (addiction for) Smoking/ Cigarettes

 

As for the first part, ADDITION represents a craving, an unsatisfied/

satiable want. This would mean RAHU.

 

The explanation for the 2nd part, SMOKING/ CIGARETTES, is what needs to be

debated on. KETU and maybe afflicted MARS(smoke = smoldering fire) comes to

mind but when seniors are discussing, I will be only two happy to sit in the

audience.

 

With best regards,

 

Shailesh

scchadha; scc