Part-2 Vegitarian food Habits /No Alchoholic Drinks

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Dear Friends & Respected elderly members,

 

I wish to invite your views on following

 

1) Strict Vegetarian (Not even Eggs:-)) food eating (either from Birth

or at some point in one's life)

 

2)NO Habit of Alchoholic Drinks (Niether Occasional Nor Frequent)

 

:Desh,Kaal,Patra is consiered by default.

 

To start with i can give my view point is that Amongst many factors

which can bring about the above food/drink patterns, KENDRA Placement

of Guru & it's aspect on Lagna/lord/ or both, is one of the strong

factor which generates liking towards Vegetarian food.

 

 

to give a quite relevent example, one of friends, Mr. Ealumalai form

Chennai, is a Pure Vegetarian from child-hood, where is his entire

family is frequent Non-veg. eater. His wife has to adher to Veg food

because of his disliking towards Non-veg.

 

He has 10th Guru in scorpio aspecting Saturn who is lagna lord placed

in 4th. (15.5.1971, 1.00am, cuddalore, Tamilnadu)

 

hope to recieve some inputs fro you all

 

regards

 

utpal

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dear utpalji,

 

i am pure vegetarian right from birth. i don't take cakes also which

contains eggs.

 

my lagna is dhanus and ll is in 9th leo with moon.

 

tvr

9422203510

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf

Of utpal pathak

Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:17 AM

sohamsa

Part-2 Vegitarian food Habits /No Alchoholic Drinks

 

 

Dear Friends & Respected elderly members,

 

I wish to invite your views on following

 

1) Strict Vegetarian (Not even Eggs:-)) food eating (either from Birth

or at some point in one's life)

 

2)NO Habit of Alchoholic Drinks (Niether Occasional Nor Frequent)

 

:Desh,Kaal,Patra is consiered by default.

 

To start with i can give my view point is that Amongst many factors

which can bring about the above food/drink patterns, KENDRA Placement

of Guru & it's aspect on Lagna/lord/ or both, is one of the strong

factor which generates liking towards Vegetarian food.

 

 

to give a quite relevent example, one of friends, Mr. Ealumalai form

Chennai, is a Pure Vegetarian from child-hood, where is his entire

family is frequent Non-veg. eater. His wife has to adher to Veg food

because of his disliking towards Non-veg.

 

He has 10th Guru in scorpio aspecting Saturn who is lagna lord placed

in 4th. (15.5.1971, 1.00am, cuddalore, Tamilnadu)

 

hope to recieve some inputs fro you all

 

regards

 

utpal

 

 

 

 

 

 

*tat savitur varenyam*

 

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Namaste Utpal Ji,

 

Along the lines, I am myself a vegetarian and non-alcoholic since birth and have strong dislike of non-vegetarian foods etc.

I do not drink, smoke either. My Jupiter in 2nd exalted with lagna lord mercury in it might have something to do with it.

So although Jupiter is not in kendra, it has strong association with lagna lord mercury via conjuction.Namaste,Gaurav Jain

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om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Gaurav

You missed my note about 1st and 2nd house. Please go through that and it will become evident that the 2nd house is dominating your taste for food as well as spirituality - seeking the final truth.

With best wishes and warm regards,

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of yobrevolSent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:48 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Part-2 Vegitarian food Habits /No Alchoholic Drinks

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Namaste Utpal Ji,

 

Along the lines, I am myself a vegetarian and non-alcoholic since birth and have strong dislike of non-vegetarian foods etc.

I do not drink, smoke either. My Jupiter in 2nd exalted with lagna lord mercury in it might have something to do with it.

So although Jupiter is not in kendra, it has strong association with lagna lord mercury via conjuction.Namaste,Gaurav Jain

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Dear Gaurav Jee,

 

Jain Ho kar Non-veg, ke bare me sochana bhi .... hai. :->

 

coming to your point, firstly i thank you for your inputs, secondly

i'll cut & paste following lines from my original thread for you.

 

>To start with i can give my view point is that Amongst many factors

>which can bring about the above food/drink patterns, KENDRA Placement

>of Guru & it's aspect on Lagna/lord/ or both, is one of the strong

>factor which generates liking towards Vegetarian food.

 

hope the above clarifies my standpoint very clearly that Kendra Ju is

ONE OF THE MANY factors...

 

by the way, i know one lady who has GURU+BUDHA in 2nd house in Kumbha

without afliction from any Malefics, she is from Hindu Family & NON

Veg food was normal for her and she also likes it very much.

 

strange are the ways of Charts. isn't it?

 

warm regards

 

utpal

PS: She is forced to eat Veg. food after marriage as Her husband is a

strict vegetarian.

 

 

sohamsa , yobrevol@a... wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Namaste Utpal Ji,

>

> Along the lines, I am myself a vegetarian and non-alcoholic since

birth and

> have strong dislike of non-vegetarian foods etc.

> I do not drink, smoke either. My Jupiter in 2nd exalted with lagna

lord

> mercury in it might have something to do with it.

> So although Jupiter is not in kendra, it has strong association

with lagna

> lord mercury via conjuction.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Gaurav Jain

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Namaste ,

In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:43:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, guruji writes:

The lagna with the two planets show contradictory influence. Moon promising a clean food habit which was strong in childhood and Mars showing its colors fom the 16th year. Perhaps Naisargika dasa should give us a clue. Utpal is very right about seeing both lagna and 2nd house for taste. If there are planets in lagna then they will dominate the taste else the planets in the 2nd house will dominate. Sometimes planets in 12th house also have influence on taste. The influence of planets in 2/12 house is based on the definition of Subha/Asubha yoga. Please read my paper on Kalpadruma yoga where this has been explained.

 

I understand that we look at lagna, 2nd, 12th house. However, since I have two planets in lagna (venus+Sun, aspected by moon in 4th), according to you should they not dominate?

There is a greater desire for material success than spirituality, however, for now, the latter seems to be active.

Namaste,Gaurav Jain

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In a message dated 9/7/2005 3:37:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vedic_pathak writes:

by the way, i know one lady who has GURU+BUDHA in 2nd house in Kumbha without afliction from any Malefics, she is from Hindu Family & NON Veg food was normal for her and she also likes it very much.

 

May I request to you to tell me her 1st / 12 house planet positions...

 

Namaste

 

Gaurav

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Namaste Utpal Ji,

 

Pretty interesting, houses in play seem to be 12th, 1st, 2nd with sat being the LL. I would imagine, based on my novice understanding, that the lady would temporarily give up or sincerely reduce the intake/liking for non-veg food during jupiter /mer dasa.

Rahu is critical with its aspect on lagna and lagna lord sat. I am unware of mars placement , but am almost certain of its involvement with the 2nd house.

On a different note, she herself should have some interest in the occult.

 

*I am looking forward to your article on parivartana, as I myself have one between moon (4th) and mercury (2nd). Shri. Visti Ji has done some remarkable work on this.

 

 

Namaste;

Gaurav

 

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Dear Utpal

 

I have been follwing your contributions on this interesting thread and would like some insight to some combinations in my chart.

 

I too am vegetarian with Ju in 5th in a trine to Lagna. Now I was interested in your input on my Ju (5th) and Me(2nd) in parivartana. Me is also conjoined Sa in 2nd.

 

Look forward to youe comments on my favoured type of food tendancies.

 

All the best

 

Bipin

<jhl chart attached>

 

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Dear Bipin,

 

First of all, i was not passing any judgements on food habits from my

discussions. my intentions were to find out some pecularities in

charts which can help us in find out some basic traits, liking for

quality/type of food etc..

 

your chart is very simple. i even need not look at the chart when you

asid that 2nd lord jU is in Parivartana with 5th lord mercury.

 

I am shortly coming out with a very small article on 'Parivartana'

with few selected example to show its effects which may be of some

interst to members.

 

coming back to your chart, Me will act like ju hence 2nd house is

saved very much.

now some more points looking at your chart

1) Lagna has a Yogakarka Venus

2) Lagna lord Saturn is in 2nd with 5th lord mercury generating a

rajayoga in 2nd

3) 2nd lord jU in 5th in Parivartana with 5th lord mercury

4) Lagna, LL & 2nd lord all are UN-Afflicted.

 

Shows that you are willingly a Pure Vegeterian. having liking towards

RICH Food which can be indicated by Venus in Lagna. Saturn in 2nd,

venus in lagna show that you are quite slow in eating. effects of Ju,

Venus can indicate that you are fond of SWEETS,ICECREAMS,CAKES & such

eatables.

 

One more thing which i want to ask you is that are you taking

occasional Liqure? Saturn in 2nd from Lagna and influencing 2nd from

moon can show that.

 

regards,

utpal

 

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Bipin Prag " <bipin.prag@l...> wrote:

> Dear Utpal

>

> I have been follwing your contributions on this interesting thread

and would like some insight to some combinations in my chart.

>

> I too am vegetarian with Ju in 5th in a trine to Lagna. Now I was

interested in your input on my Ju (5th) and Me(2nd) in parivartana.

Me is also conjoined Sa in 2nd.

>

> Look forward to youe comments on my favoured type of food

tendancies.

>

> All the best

>

> Bipin

> <jhl chart attached>

>

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Dear Gaurav,

 

Her 2nd house has two very strong benefic placed, yet she is very much

fond of Non-Veg food. why?

 

Lagna has Venus+Sun (2 enemies of each other)

Most importnatly Lagnesh cum 2nd lord Saturn is in 6th with Nodes.

Saturn is with Ketu in Mithuna & 12 th has Rahu.

 

so affliction to Lagna & Lagnesh has worked here (also 12th house)

 

regards

utpal

 

sohamsa , yobrevol@a... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 9/7/2005 3:37:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> vedic_pathak writes:

>

> by the way, i know one lady who has GURU+BUDHA in 2nd house in

Kumbha

> without afliction from any Malefics, she is from Hindu Family & NON

> Veg food was normal for her and she also likes it very much.

>

>

> May I request to you to tell me her 1st / 12 house planet

positions...

>

> Namaste

>

> Gaurav

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Dear Utpal

 

Many Thanks for that insight. I like food - full stop.... would Moon in Taurus maybe further support this. Yes, I love sweets and the like, but in moderation. To your other question - I dont take liquor or smoke.

 

Thanks again for adding another perspective

 

Regards

 

Bipin

 

-

utpal pathak

sohamsa

Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:00 PM

Re: Part-2 Vegitarian food Habits /No Alchoholic Drinks

Dear Bipin,First of all, i was not passing any judgements on food habits from my discussions. my intentions were to find out some pecularities in charts which can help us in find out some basic traits, liking for quality/type of food etc..your chart is very simple. i even need not look at the chart when you asid that 2nd lord jU is in Parivartana with 5th lord mercury.I am shortly coming out with a very small article on 'Parivartana' with few selected example to show its effects which may be of some interst to members.coming back to your chart, Me will act like ju hence 2nd house is saved very much.now some more points looking at your chart1) Lagna has a Yogakarka Venus2) Lagna lord Saturn is in 2nd with 5th lord mercury generating a rajayoga in 2nd3) 2nd lord jU in 5th in Parivartana with 5th lord mercury4) Lagna, LL & 2nd lord all are UN-Afflicted.Shows that you are willingly a Pure Vegeterian. having liking towards RICH Food which can be indicated by Venus in Lagna. Saturn in 2nd, venus in lagna show that you are quite slow in eating. effects of Ju, Venus can indicate that you are fond of SWEETS,ICECREAMS,CAKES & such eatables.One more thing which i want to ask you is that are you taking occasional Liqure? Saturn in 2nd from Lagna and influencing 2nd from moon can show that.regards,utpalsohamsa , "Bipin Prag" <bipin.prag@l...> wrote:> Dear Utpal> > I have been follwing your contributions on this interesting thread and would like some insight to some combinations in my chart.> > I too am vegetarian with Ju in 5th in a trine to Lagna. Now I was interested in your input on my Ju (5th) and Me(2nd) in parivartana. Me is also conjoined Sa in 2nd.> > Look forward to youe comments on my favoured type of food tendancies.> > All the best> > Bipin> <jhl chart attached>> > *******************************************************************> > The e-mail and attachments are confidential and intended only for selected recipients. If you have received it in error, you may not in any way disclose or rely on the contents. You may not keep, copy or distribute the e-mail. Should you receive it, immediately notify the sender of the error and delete the e-mail.Also note that this form of communication is not secure, it can be intercepted, and may not necessarily be free of errors and viruses in spite of reasonable efforts to secure this medium.> > *******************************************************************

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Dear Gurav Bhai,

 

sorry for the delay in replying. I was not having the lady's exact

birth details, i just gave few planetory positions from my memory.

now i have got it for you

 

11.2.1974, 5 am, Chennai (13N04, 80E17)

 

The intresting thing in the chart is that she had to leave Non-veg

after her marriage in may 2001 just when Guru Mahadasha Started for

her.

 

Now see the few points-

Guru is natural 'Patikarka' placed in 2nd

Guru is Char-Pati Karka also (DK)

Mercury acts like saturn so Saturn (as LL & 2nd Lord) has the saving

grace of Guru.

 

Now slowly she is also getting in to Veg mode willingly and i am suer

by the time Guru finishes for her, she will be pure vegeterian by

herself.

 

best regards,

 

utpal

PS: I have only few thoughts based on practical experiences

on 'Parivartana'.don't expact much otherwise as the famous proverb

goes..Khoda Pahad nikala chuha....

 

 

sohamsa , yobrevol@a... wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Namaste Utpal Ji,

>

> Pretty interesting, houses in play seem to be 12th, 1st, 2nd with

sat being

> the LL. I would imagine, based on my novice understanding, that the

lady would

> temporarily give up or sincerely reduce the intake/liking for non-

veg food

> during jupiter /mer dasa.

> Rahu is critical with its aspect on lagna and lagna lord sat. I am

unware of

> mars placement , but am almost certain of its involvement with the

2nd house.

> On a different note, she herself should have some interest in the

occult.

>

> *I am looking forward to your article on parivartana, as I myself

have one

> between moon (4th) and mercury (2nd). Shri. Visti Ji has done some

remarkable

> work on this.

>

>

> Namaste;

> Gaurav

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Namaste Utpal Bhai,

 

Just one more question about the lady, is she financially well-off OR wealthy?, also, does she herself have interest in jyotish or the occult ?

I am trying to understand guru's role in 2nd...

 

*I am sure your article on parivartana will be enriching to all of us.

 

Namaste

Gaurav

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In a message dated 9/9/2005 7:17:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vedic_pathak writes:

I would imagine, based on my novice understanding, that the lady would > temporarily give up or sincerely reduce the intake/liking for non-veg food > during jupiter /mer dasa.

 

Namaste Utpal Bhai,

 

You are absolutely right, as I also pointed out this would/should happen given Guru is ultimately- GURU. I would not be surprised if she resumes the older eating habits occasionally after Guru MD finishes...

 

Namaste

Gaurav

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Dear Gaurav,

 

I understand your intrest in Ju's role for Kumbha Lagna especially

when in 2nd.

 

She is a Housewife staying Abroad with her husband.

 

Ju being a natural Dhan Karka is 'Tripple potent' to provide Dhana

being 2nd & 11th lord. yes now she is enjoying all the luxuries of

material world due to his Husband which she may not have ever enjoyed

before marriage.

 

Her Husband (Ealumalai) has lot of intrest in Jyotisha &

spirituality.She is not having any intrest in Jyotisha at the moment.

She used to get annoyed when i & ealumalai used to had endless

discussions on Jyotisha & mythology.

 

regards,

utpal

 

 

sohamsa , yobrevol@a... wrote:

> Namaste Utpal Bhai,

>

> Just one more question about the lady, is she financially well-off

OR

> wealthy?, also, does she herself have interest in jyotish or the

occult ?

> I am trying to understand guru's role in 2nd...

>

> *I am sure your article on parivartana will be enriching to all of

us.

>

> Namaste

> Gaurav

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||NamasteUptal ji ,

 

thank you.

Namaste,Gaurav Jain