Fwd: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

September 5, 2005

Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak wrote:

vedic astrology From: Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathakMon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

Dear Srinivas,

Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.

I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i finish my food very fast.

Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written following line in a recent mail..

"There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for Pt.Rath :)"

i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with Tea/cofee.

regards,

utpalSre_eram <sreeram64 wrote:

Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or analysed is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries Ascendant, here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a action oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a "slow eater". One has to apply "Desh, Kaal Patra" in all such cases. Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and drinking liquor". This is ok in indian context. When seen from an european or western concept, it makes no meaning. With regards,srinivas vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote:> Dear Utpal,> You wrote: "Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its

lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite veto ". > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house(Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not like the smell.> > Devika.> > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> Dear Friends,> Namaste,> > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.> > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its lord > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite veto > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup of tea > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost have > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I am one > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with

Lagnesh.> > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it seems to > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few people > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You can > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say NO.> > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if at > all it has some truth in it.> > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT OF > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.> > > What is your opinion?> > best regards,> utpal pathak > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg &

> Alcoholic drinks> > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > >

September 5, 2005

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Utpal-bhai,

Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the

book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to

Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with

whom etc the food is taken.

Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in the

grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of

these two planets ?

Best Regards,

Sourav

====================================================================

sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

wrote:

>

> Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-

astrology

> Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

(Hot Tea & Mars)

>

> Dear Srinivas,

>

> Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing

that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our

astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.

>

> I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i

finish my food very fast.

>

> Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars

on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written

following line in a recent mail..

>

> " There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for

Pt.Rath "

>

> i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with Tea/cofee.

>

> regards,

> utpal

>

> Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or

analysed

> is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

Ascendant,

> here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a

action

> oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a " slow

> eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such cases.

> Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and

> drinking liquor " . This is ok in indian context. When seen from

an

> european or western concept, it makes no meaning.

>

> With regards,

>

> srinivas

>

> vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon

> <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > Dear Utpal,

> > You wrote: " Generally food/drinking habits can be known from

> 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh

> has a definite veto " .

> > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house

> (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not

> like the smell.

> >

> > Devika.

> >

> > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > Dear Friends,

> > Namaste,

> >

> > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was

> > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> >

> > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its

> lord

> > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite

> veto

> > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup

of

> tea

> > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost

> have

> > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I

am

> one

> > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.

> >

> > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it

seems

> to

> > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few

> people

> > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio

> > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You can

> > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say

NO.

> >

> > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence

> > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if

at

> > all it has some truth in it.

> >

> > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT OF

> > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> >

> > What is your opinion?

> >

> > best regards,

> > utpal pathak

> >

> > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly

> > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg &

> > Alcoholic drinks

> >

> > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> >

> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

>

> >

> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> >

September 5, 2005

Dear Sourav Dada,

After a long break, we are talking again.

as i said in my email, Food Habits will be discussed in Part-2. and i

think you mistakenly took my Mars+Venus in 2nd house. actually they

are in Lagna & Mars is defeated.

furthermore if you go thro' my original mail, I have said that Though

2nd house & lord is the indicator of Food,Drinking habits in general

BUT Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna AND Lagnesh both creates HOT

TEA drinking habits.

Warm regards after a long break

utpal pathak

sohamsa , " Sourav Chowdhury " <souravc108>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Utpal-bhai,

> Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

> Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the

> book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to

> Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with

> whom etc the food is taken.

>

> Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in

the

> grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of

> these two planets ?

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

> ====================================================================

>

> sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> >

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-

> astrology

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

> (Hot Tea & Mars)

> >

> > Dear Srinivas,

> >

> > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing

> that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our

> astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.

> >

> > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i

> finish my food very fast.

> >

> > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars

> on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written

> following line in a recent mail..

> >

> > " There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for

> Pt.Rath "

> >

> > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with

Tea/cofee.

> >

> > regards,

> > utpal

> >

> > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or

> analysed

> > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> Ascendant,

> > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a

> action

> > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a " slow

> > eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such cases.

> > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and

> > drinking liquor " . This is ok in indian context. When seen from

> an

> > european or western concept, it makes no meaning.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > srinivas

> >

> > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Dear Utpal,

> > > You wrote: " Generally food/drinking habits can be known

from

> > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh

> > has a definite veto " .

> > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not

> > like the smell.

> > >

> > > Devika.

> > >

> > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i

was

> > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > >

> > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its

> > lord

> > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a

definite

> > veto

> > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup

> of

> > tea

> > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost

> > have

> > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I

> am

> > one

> > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it

> seems

> > to

> > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few

> > people

> > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in

Scorpio

> > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You

can

> > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say

> NO.

> > >

> > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion

hence

> > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if

> at

> > > all it has some truth in it.

> > >

> > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT OF

> > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> > >

> > > What is your opinion?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > utpal pathak

> > >

> > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly

> > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg &

> > > Alcoholic drinks

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

September 5, 2005

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Utpal-bhai,

Namaskar. Ok, I understand. But why both Lagna and

Lagnesh? I suspect only Lagna or Lagna lord is suffice if at all

that be the case. And don't forget to bring in the connection to the

2H/L when it comes to food/speech

I would need your chart to look into it more.

Best Regards,

Sourav

=============================================================

sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak>

wrote:

> Dear Sourav Dada,

>

> After a long break, we are talking again.

>

> as i said in my email, Food Habits will be discussed in Part-2.

and i

> think you mistakenly took my Mars+Venus in 2nd house. actually

they

> are in Lagna & Mars is defeated.

>

> furthermore if you go thro' my original mail, I have said that

Though

> 2nd house & lord is the indicator of Food,Drinking habits in

general

> BUT Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna AND Lagnesh both creates HOT

> TEA drinking habits.

>

> Warm regards after a long break

>

> utpal pathak

>

> sohamsa , " Sourav Chowdhury "

> wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Utpal-bhai,

> > Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

> > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of

the

> > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to

> > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how

much/with

> > whom etc the food is taken.

> >

> > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in

> the

> > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of

> > these two planets ?

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

====================================================================

> >

> > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-

> > astrology

> > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

> > (Hot Tea & Mars)

> > >

> > > Dear Srinivas,

> > >

> > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one

thing

> > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our

> > astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.

> > >

> > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i

> > finish my food very fast.

> > >

> > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of

Mars

> > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written

> > following line in a recent mail..

> > >

> > > " There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee

for

> > Pt.Rath "

> > >

> > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with

> Tea/cofee.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > utpal

> > >

> > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or

> > analysed

> > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> > Ascendant,

> > > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a

> > action

> > > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is

a " slow

> > > eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such

cases.

> > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food

and

> > > drinking liquor " . This is ok in indian context. When seen

from

> > an

> > > european or western concept, it makes no meaning.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > srinivas

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon

> > > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > > Dear Utpal,

> > > > You wrote: " Generally food/drinking habits can be known

> from

> > > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna &

Lagnesh

> > > has a definite veto " .

> > > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do

not

> > > like the smell.

> > > >

> > > > Devika.

> > > >

> > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i

> was

> > > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > > >

> > > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house,

its

> > > lord

> > > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a

> definite

> > > veto

> > > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a

cup

> > of

> > > tea

> > > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who

almost

> > > have

> > > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot.

I

> > am

> > > one

> > > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with

Lagnesh.

> > > >

> > > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it

> > seems

> > > to

> > > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of

few

> > > people

> > > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in

> Scorpio

> > > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You

> can

> > > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't

say

> > NO.

> > > >

> > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion

> hence

> > > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove

if

> > at

> > > > all it has some truth in it.

> > > >

> > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT

OF

> > > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> > > >

> > > > What is your opinion?

> > > >

> > > > best regards,

> > > > utpal pathak

> > > >

> > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in

correctly

> > > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-

veg &

> > > > Alcoholic drinks

> > > >

> > > > Group info: vedic-

> > astrology/info.html

> > > >

> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > >

> > > >

> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >

September 5, 2005

Dear Sourav,

Namaste,

My logic goes as follows:

Tea/Cofee in morning is quite common stuff with most people. but what

standsout is Habit of it & taking it in HOT state. so i feel that

Mars influence over 'Thee' (Lagna) & It's Lord both is erquired to

really influnce the person's Habit of having Hot Tea/cofee...

Here you are now aware that i am overlooking 2nd house & it's lord

(which carries the actual Portfolio) and projecting only Lagna & it's

lord because the fact that the planet which influences Lagna & it;s

lord strongly has a definate say over matters connected to it's

natural significations and i am trying to findout weather or not Mars

is related to Hot Stuffs like Tea/cofee etc.

At present i have got 3 examples which proves above right

1) Utpal Pathak - Mars in Lagna with venus + exchange with Mercury

(Lagna lord)

2) Bhaskaran (My ex-professional mate) - Mars+Venus i scorpio Lagna

3) Kamalesh (from VA List) - Mars in 6th with Lagna lord Sun &

Strongly influencing Lagna

Now i erquest opinion of Shri Sanja Rathji, who also has Strong

influence of Mars on Lagna + it's lord guru.

best regards,

utpal

sohamsa , " Sourav Chowdhury " <souravc108>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Utpal-bhai,

> Namaskar. Ok, I understand. But why both Lagna and

> Lagnesh? I suspect only Lagna or Lagna lord is suffice if at all

> that be the case. And don't forget to bring in the connection to

the

> 2H/L when it comes to food/speech

>

> I would need your chart to look into it more.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

> =============================================================

>

> sohamsa , " utpal pathak " <vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> > Dear Sourav Dada,

> >

> > After a long break, we are talking again.

> >

> > as i said in my email, Food Habits will be discussed in Part-2.

> and i

> > think you mistakenly took my Mars+Venus in 2nd house. actually

> they

> > are in Lagna & Mars is defeated.

> >

> > furthermore if you go thro' my original mail, I have said that

> Though

> > 2nd house & lord is the indicator of Food,Drinking habits in

> general

> > BUT Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna AND Lagnesh both creates

HOT

> > TEA drinking habits.

> >

> > Warm regards after a long break

> >

> > utpal pathak

> >

> > sohamsa , " Sourav Chowdhury "

> <souravc108>

> > wrote:

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Utpal-bhai,

> > > Namaskar. In the context of food do read

Prashna

> > > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of

> the

> > > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to

> > > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how

> much/with

> > > whom etc the food is taken.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated

in

> > the

> > > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of

> > > these two planets ?

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> ====================================================================

> > >

> > > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-

> > > astrology

> > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > > > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-

1

> > > (Hot Tea & Mars)

> > > >

> > > > Dear Srinivas,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one

> thing

> > > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our

> > > astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.

> > > >

> > > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i

> > > finish my food very fast.

> > > >

> > > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of

> Mars

> > > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written

> > > following line in a recent mail..

> > > >

> > > > " There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee

> for

> > > Pt.Rath "

> > > >

> > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with

> > Tea/cofee.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > utpal

> > > >

> > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > > > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or

> > > analysed

> > > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> > > Ascendant,

> > > > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a

> > > action

> > > > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is

> a " slow

> > > > eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such

> cases.

> > > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food

> and

> > > > drinking liquor " . This is ok in indian context. When seen

> from

> > > an

> > > > european or western concept, it makes no meaning.

> > > >

> > > > With regards,

> > > >

> > > > srinivas

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon

> > > > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Utpal,

> > > > > You wrote: " Generally food/drinking habits can be known

> > from

> > > > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna &

> Lagnesh

> > > > has a definite veto " .

> > > > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > > > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do

> not

> > > > like the smell.

> > > > >

> > > > > Devika.

> > > > >

> > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when

i

> > was

> > > > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > > > >

> > > > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house,

> its

> > > > lord

> > > > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a

> > definite

> > > > veto

> > > > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a

> cup

> > > of

> > > > tea

> > > > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who

> almost

> > > > have

> > > > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very

hot.

> I

> > > am

> > > > one

> > > > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with

> Lagnesh.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it

> > > seems

> > > > to

> > > > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of

> few

> > > > people

> > > > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in

> > Scorpio

> > > > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker.

You

> > can

> > > > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't

> say

> > > NO.

> > > > >

> > > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion

> > hence

> > > > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or

disprove

> if

> > > at

> > > > > all it has some truth in it.

> > > > >

> > > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES

LOT

> OF

> > > > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> > > > >

> > > > > What is your opinion?

> > > > >

> > > > > best regards,

> > > > > utpal pathak

> > > > >

> > > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in

> correctly

> > > > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-

> veg &

> > > > > Alcoholic drinks

> > > > >

> > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > astrology/info.html

> > > > >

> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > >

September 5, 2005

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Sourav Ji,

You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart regarding his food habits.

In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and watery sign and Lagna lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking is clean.He likes more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its lord ( Shani indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord Shukra and 6th lord Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including sweets !! But anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana Prashna we can find out some more clues about the different types of food one consumes.

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas rao.Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Utpal-bhai, Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with whom etc the food is taken.Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in the grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of these two planets ?Best Regards,Sourav====================================================================sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:To:

vedic astrology > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>> Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)> > Dear Srinivas,> > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.> > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i finish my food very fast.> > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written following line in a recent mail..> > "There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for Pt.Rath :)"> > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with

Tea/cofee.> > regards,> utpal> > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:> Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or analysed > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries Ascendant, > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a action > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a "slow > eater". One has to apply "Desh, Kaal Patra" in all such cases. > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and > drinking liquor". This is ok in indian context. When seen from an > european or western concept, it makes no meaning. > > With regards,> > srinivas > > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > Dear Utpal,>

> You wrote: "Generally food/drinking habits can be known from > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh > has a definite veto ". > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house> (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not > like the smell.> > > > Devika.> > > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > Namaste,> > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.> > > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its > lord > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite > veto > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup of > tea > >

and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost > have > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I am > one > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.> > > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it seems > to > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few > people > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You can > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say NO.> > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if at > > all it has some truth in it.> > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S

LORD CREATES LOT OF > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.> > > > > > What is your opinion?> > > > best regards,> > utpal pathak > > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg & > > Alcoholic drinks> > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > || Om Tat

Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > >

September 5, 2005

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Utpal ji,

I have Mars (in 6th house) influencing my lagna/

chandra lagna, lagna/chandra lagna lord and 2nd lord

too. Yet, till 10 years back, I never touched either

coffee or tea. Even now i drink only one/two

(occasionally) cups of tea per day and haven't tasted

coffee till now and i am 45!

Howzzat?

:--))

Regards,

Lakshmi

--- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak wrote:

> Dear Sourav,

> Namaste,

>

> My logic goes as follows:

> Tea/Cofee in morning is quite common stuff with most

> people. but what

> standsout is Habit of it & taking it in HOT state.

> so i feel that

> Mars influence over 'Thee' (Lagna) & It's Lord both

> is erquired to

> really influnce the person's Habit of having Hot

> Tea/cofee...

>

> Here you are now aware that i am overlooking 2nd

> house & it's lord

> (which carries the actual Portfolio) and projecting

> only Lagna & it's

> lord because the fact that the planet which

> influences Lagna & it;s

> lord strongly has a definate say over matters

> connected to it's

> natural significations and i am trying to findout

> weather or not Mars

> is related to Hot Stuffs like Tea/cofee etc.

>

> At present i have got 3 examples which proves above

> right

> 1) Utpal Pathak - Mars in Lagna with venus +

> exchange with Mercury

> (Lagna lord)

> 2) Bhaskaran (My ex-professional mate) - Mars+Venus

> i scorpio Lagna

> 3) Kamalesh (from VA List) - Mars in 6th with Lagna

> lord Sun &

> Strongly influencing Lagna

>

> Now i erquest opinion of Shri Sanja Rathji, who also

> has Strong

> influence of Mars on Lagna + it's lord guru.

>

> best regards,

>

> utpal

>

> sohamsa , " Sourav Chowdhury "

> <souravc108>

> wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Utpal-bhai,

> > Namaskar. Ok, I understand. But why

> both Lagna and

> > Lagnesh? I suspect only Lagna or Lagna lord is

> suffice if at all

> > that be the case. And don't forget to bring in the

> connection to

> the

> > 2H/L when it comes to food/speech

> >

> > I would need your chart to look into it more.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

>

=============================================================

> >

> > sohamsa , " utpal pathak "

> <vedic_pathak>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Sourav Dada,

> > >

> > > After a long break, we are talking again.

> > >

> > > as i said in my email, Food Habits will be

> discussed in Part-2.

> > and i

> > > think you mistakenly took my Mars+Venus in 2nd

> house. actually

> > they

> > > are in Lagna & Mars is defeated.

> > >

> > > furthermore if you go thro' my original mail, I

> have said that

> > Though

> > > 2nd house & lord is the indicator of

> Food,Drinking habits in

> > general

> > > BUT Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna AND

> Lagnesh both creates

> HOT

> > > TEA drinking habits.

> > >

> > > Warm regards after a long break

> > >

> > > utpal pathak

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Sourav

> Chowdhury "

> > <souravc108>

> > > wrote:

> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Utpal-bhai,

> > > > Namaskar. In the context of

> food do read

> Prashna

> > > > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in

> the Part Two of

> > the

> > > > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna

> (Query related to

> > > > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to

> what/how/how

> > much/with

> > > > whom etc the food is taken.

> > > >

> > > > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and

> Ve is defeated

> in

> > > the

> > > > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What

> are the avasthas of

> > > > these two planets ?

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sourav

> > > >

> >

>

====================================================================

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak

> <vedic_pathak>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:To:

> vedic-

> > > > astrology

> > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > > > > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

> Food+Drinking Habits PART-

> 1

> > > > (Hot Tea & Mars)

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Srinivas,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all

> let me clear one

> > thing

> > > > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default

> in any of our

> > > > astrological discussions even if the mention

> of it is not there.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a

> very fast eater. i

> > > > finish my food very fast.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a

> Strong Influence of

> > Mars

> > > > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when

> he has written

> > > > following line in a recent mail..

> > > > >

> > > > > " There are no charges but students are

> expected to buy coffee

> > for

> > > > Pt.Rath "

> > > > >

> > > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also

> habitual with

> > > Tea/cofee.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > utpal

> > > > >

> > > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Interesting discussion on food!! The point

> to be noted or

> > > > analysed

> > > > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H

> for an Aries

> > > > Ascendant,

> > > > > here implies, some finishing his / her food

> fast!!! Mars is a

> > > > action

> > > > > oriented planet and he has little patience

> !!! Venus is

> > a " slow

> > > > > eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra "

> in all such

> > cases.

> > > > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking

> non-vegetarian

=== message truncated ===

September 5, 2005

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji,

Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition

and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me just by my name

and not with a -ji. Pranam.

Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's tastes. I myself have

Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My lagna has Ju in

it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well. But only

occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked with little spices

and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V) and debilitated

in 2H giving indications that food will can be non-vegetarian

although gradually I feel I no longer like non-vegetarian food.

My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet by graha dristi

but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.

Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with *both* lagna and

lagnesha having strong association with Mars, liking hot tea. Mars

symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature and not

necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both Mars and Saturn

truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is tikta or bitter. In

Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we find these indicators.

Of course as you said, there is possibility of much more information

from prashna chart.

I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to see more of his

research and theoretical interpretations.

Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H ? In your e-mail

you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter substances and hence

tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the choice as tea).

Pranam and regards,

Sourav

===============================================================

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` ïI ra " veNÔ gué_yae nm>

>

> om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Sourav Ji,

> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart regarding his food habits.

> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and watery sign and Lagna

lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking is clean.He likes

more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its lord ( Shani

indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord Shukra and 6th lord

Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including sweets !! But

anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana Prashna we can

find out some more clues about the different types of food one

consumes.

> I hope this helps.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas rao.

>

> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108> wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Utpal-bhai,

> Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

> Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the

> book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to

> Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how

much/with

> whom etc the food is taken.

>

> Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in

the

> grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of

> these two planets ?

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

>

====================================================================

>

> sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> >

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-

> astrology

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

> (Hot Tea & Mars)

> >

> > Dear Srinivas,

> >

> > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one

thing

> that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our

> astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.

> >

> > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i

> finish my food very fast.

> >

> > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of

Mars

> on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written

> following line in a recent mail..

> >

> > " There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee

for

> Pt.Rath "

> >

> > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with

Tea/cofee.

> >

> > regards,

> > utpal

> >

> > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or

> analysed

> > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> Ascendant,

> > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a

> action

> > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a " slow

> > eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such cases.

> > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and

> > drinking liquor " . This is ok in indian context. When seen from

> an

> > european or western concept, it makes no meaning.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > srinivas

> >

> > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Dear Utpal,

> > > You wrote: " Generally food/drinking habits can be known

from

> > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna &

Lagnesh

> > has a definite veto " .

> > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do

not

> > like the smell.

> > >

> > > Devika.

> > >

> > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i

was

> > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > >

> > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house,

its

> > lord

> > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a

definite

> > veto

> > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup

> of

> > tea

> > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost

> > have

> > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I

> am

> > one

> > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with

Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it

> seems

> > to

> > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few

> > people

> > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in

Scorpio

> > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You

can

> > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't

say

> NO.

> > >

> > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion

hence

> > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove

if

> at

> > > all it has some truth in it.

> > >

> > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT

OF

> > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> > >

> > > What is your opinion?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > utpal pathak

> > >

> > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly

> > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg

&

> > > Alcoholic drinks

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > >

September 5, 2005

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav

and Ramadas, Namaskar

Sanjayji

almost never takes tea these days. In my time with him i’ve only seen him

drink tea 3 times. Otherwise its coffee... but he used to like Tea alot when he

was in service.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

Sourav Chowdhury

05 September 2005 19:03

sohamsa

Fwd: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji,

Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition

and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me

just by my name

and not with a -ji. Pranam.

Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's

tastes. I myself have

Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My

lagna has Ju in

it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well.

But only

occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked

with little spices

and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V)

and debilitated

in 2H giving indications that food will can be

non-vegetarian

although gradually I feel I no longer like

non-vegetarian food.

My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet

by graha dristi

but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.

Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with

*both* lagna and

lagnesha having strong association with Mars,

liking hot tea. Mars

symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature

and not

necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both

Mars and Saturn

truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is

tikta or bitter. In

Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we

find these indicators.

Of course as you said, there is possibility of

much more information

from prashna chart.

I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to

see more of his

research and theoretical interpretations.

Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H

? In your e-mail

you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter

substances and hence

tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the

choice as tea).

Pranam and regards,

Sourav

===============================================================

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` ïI ra " veNÔ gué_yae

nm>

>

> om çré räghavendra gurubhyo

namaù

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Sourav Ji,

> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart

regarding his food habits.

> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and

watery sign and Lagna

lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking

is clean.He likes

more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its

lord ( Shani

indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord

Shukra and 6th lord

Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including

sweets !! But

anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana

Prashna we can

find out some more clues about the different types

of food one

consumes.

> I hope this helps.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas rao.

>

> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna

||

>

> Dear Utpal-bhai,

>

Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

> Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in

the Part Two of the

> book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna

(Query related to

> Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to

what/how/how

much/with

> whom etc the food is taken.

>

> Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma

and Ve is defeated in

the

> grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What

are the avasthas of

> these two planets ?

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

>

====================================================================

>

> sohamsa , Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> >

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

wrote:vedic-

> astrology

> > Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700

(PDT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

> (Hot Tea & Mars)

> >

> > Dear Srinivas,

> >

> > Thanks for you erply & input. first

of all let me clear one

thing

> that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default

in any of our

> astrological discussions even if the mention

of it is not there.

> >

> > I have a Mars & Venus combination

& i am a very fast eater. i

> finish my food very fast.

> >

> > Now i rememered one more chart who has a

Strong Influence of

Mars

> on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it

when he has written

> following line in a recent mail..

> >

> > " There are no charges but students

are expected to buy coffee

for

> Pt.Rath "

> >

> > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is

also habitual with

Tea/cofee.

> >

> > regards,

> > utpal

> >

> > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > Interesting discussion on

food!! The point to be noted or

> analysed

> > is 2H, 2HL and its

aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> Ascendant,

> > here implies, some finishing his / her

food fast!!! Mars is a

> action

> > oriented planet and he has little

patience !!! Venus is a " slow

> > eater " . One has to apply

" Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such cases.

> > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies "

taking non-vegetarian food and

> > drinking liquor " . This is ok

in indian context. When seen from

> an

> > european or western concept, it

makes no meaning.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > srinivas

> >

> > vedic astrology ,

Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Dear Utpal,

> > > You wrote:

" Generally food/drinking habits can be known

from

> > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of

Mars with Lagna &

Lagnesh

> > has a definite veto " .

> > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna

lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or

coffee in my life. I do

not

> > like the smell.

> > >

> > > Devika.

> > >

> > > utpal pathak

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > All of a sudden the above topic

cropped up in my mind when i

was

> > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > >

> > > Generally food/drinking habits can

be known from 2nd house,

its

> > lord

> > > etc...But Connection of Mars with

Lagna & Lagnesh has a

definite

> > veto

> > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people

in general start with a cup

> of

> > tea

> > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day

but there are some who almost

> > have

> > > obsession with tea & that too

taking it when it is very hot. I

> am

> > one

> > > of those few having Mars in Lagna

exchanging house with

Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Now while trying to co-relate it to

Jyotisha Principles, it

> seems

> > to

> > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried

to recollect charts of few

> > people

> > > and found one guy who was my

ex-colleague having Mars in

Scorpio

> > > Lagna with Venus and we both are

compulsive Tea-drinker. You

can

> > > offer it any time, no matter how

many times, we still won't

say

> NO.

> > >

> > > The above examples are not adequate

to form a firm opinion

hence

> > > members can see for themselves and

try to verify or disprove

if

> at

> > > all it has some truth in it.

> > >

> > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO

LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT

OF

> > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> > >

> > > What is your opinion?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > utpal pathak

> > >

> > > PS: This is just to sharpen our

predictive power in correctly

> > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak.

Part-2 will be of Non-veg

&

> > > Alcoholic drinks

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine

on us .......

> > >

> > > || Om Tat

Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > >

September 5, 2005

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Sourav,

Tea is more bitter than Coffee.That is why I wrote tea.2nd to 2nd house is 3rd house and this gives the taste of one eats or drinks.2nd house gives an indication what is one's favourite but 3rd house gives which food one takes considering the planets therein and aspects to that house. You can refer to Bhavartha Ratnakara.

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji, Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me just by my name and not with a -ji. Pranam.Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's tastes. I myself have Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My lagna has Ju in it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well. But only occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked with little spices and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V) and debilitated in 2H giving indications that food will can be non-vegetarian although gradually I feel I no longer like non-vegetarian food.My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet

by graha dristi but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with *both* lagna and lagnesha having strong association with Mars, liking hot tea. Mars symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature and not necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both Mars and Saturn truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is tikta or bitter. In Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we find these indicators.Of course as you said, there is possibility of much more information from prashna chart. I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to see more of his research and theoretical interpretations.Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H ? In your e-mail you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter substances and hence tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the choice as tea). Pranam and

regards,Sourav===============================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm> > > om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sourav Ji,> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart regarding his food habits.> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and watery sign and Lagna lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking is clean.He likes more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its lord ( Shani indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord Shukra and 6th lord Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including sweets !! But anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana Prashna we can

find out some more clues about the different types of food one consumes.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas rao.> > Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108> wrote:> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear Utpal-bhai,> Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with > whom etc the food is taken.> > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in the > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of > these two planets ?> > Best Regards,> > Sourav>

====================================================================> > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> > wrote:> > > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-> astrology > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 > (Hot Tea & Mars)> > > > Dear Srinivas,> > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our > astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.> > > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i > finish my food very fast.> > > > Now i

rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written > following line in a recent mail..> > > > "There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for > Pt.Rath :)"> > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with Tea/cofee.> > > > regards,> > utpal> > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:> > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or > analysed > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries > Ascendant, > > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a > action > > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a "slow > > eater". One has to apply "Desh, Kaal Patra" in all such

cases. > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and > > drinking liquor". This is ok in indian context. When seen from > an > > european or western concept, it makes no meaning. > > > > With regards,> > > > srinivas > > > > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Utpal,> > > You wrote: "Generally food/drinking habits can be known from > > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh > > has a definite veto ". > > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not > > like the smell.> > > > > > Devika.> >

> > > > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > Dear Friends,> > > Namaste,> > > > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was > > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.> > > > > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its > > lord > > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite > > veto > > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup > of > > tea > > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost > > have > > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I > am > > one > > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.> > > > > > Now

while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it > seems > > to > > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few > > people > > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio > > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You can > > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say > NO.> > > > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence > > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if > at > > > all it has some truth in it.> > > > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT OF > > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.> > > > > > > > > What is your opinion?> > > > >

> best regards,> > > utpal pathak > > > > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly > > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg & > > > Alcoholic drinks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > > > > > >

September 5, 2005

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So Sanjay Ji was drinking more tea till Shani- Shukra period which ended on 31/3/1989 ( using 360 Savana days per year ).You wrote you saw Sanjay Ji drinking 3 times tea in a day,then how many times coffee he was drinking those times ? Now if we see the Navamsha chart,Chandra has moved to Common sign of Meena Rashi which is a watery sign.So slowly he has stopped drinking beverages and started drinking water more.but as I see his chart,he may consume Aurvedic Kashaaya ( a kind of liquid Ayurvedic Medicine ).

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav and Ramadas, Namaskar

Sanjayji almost never takes tea these days. In my time with him i’ve only seen him drink tea 3 times. Otherwise its coffee... but he used to like Tea alot when he was in service.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury05 September 2005 19:03sohamsa Subject: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji, Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me just by my name and not with a -ji. Pranam.Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's tastes. I myself have Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My lagna has Ju in it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well. But only occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked with little spices and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V) and debilitated in 2H giving indications that food will can be non-vegetarian although gradually I feel I no longer like non-vegetarian food.My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet by graha dristi but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with *both* lagna and lagnesha having strong

association with Mars, liking hot tea. Mars symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature and not necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both Mars and Saturn truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is tikta or bitter. In Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we find these indicators.Of course as you said, there is possibility of much more information from prashna chart. I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to see more of his research and theoretical interpretations.Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H ? In your e-mail

you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter substances and hence tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the choice as tea). Pranam and regards,Sourav===============================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm> > > om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sourav Ji,> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart regarding his food habits.> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and watery sign and Lagna lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking is clean.He likes more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its lord ( Shani indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord Shukra and 6th lord Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including sweets !! But anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana Prashna we can find out some more clues about the different types of food one consumes.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas rao.> > Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108> wrote:> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear Utpal-bhai,> Namaskar. In the

context of food do read Prashna > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with > whom etc the food is taken.> > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in the > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of > these two planets ?> >

Best Regards,> > Sourav> ====================================================================> > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> > wrote:> > > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-> astrology > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700

(PDT)> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 > (Hot Tea & Mars)> > > > Dear Srinivas,> > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our > astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.> > > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i > finish my food very fast.> > > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written > following line in a recent mail..> > > > "There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for > Pt.Rath :)"> > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with Tea/cofee.> > > > regards,> > utpal> > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:> > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or > analysed > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries > Ascendant, > > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a > action > > oriented planet and he has little patience

!!! Venus is a "slow > > eater". One has to apply "Desh, Kaal Patra" in all such cases. > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and > > drinking liquor". This is ok in indian context. When seen from > an > > european or western concept, it makes no meaning. > > > > With regards,> > > > srinivas > > > > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Utpal,> > > You wrote: "Generally food/drinking habits can be known from > > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh > > has a definite veto ". > > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not > > like the smell.> > > > > > Devika.> > > > > > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > Dear Friends,> > > Namaste,> > > > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was > > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.> > > > > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its > > lord > > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite > > veto > > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup > of > > tea > > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost > > have > > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I > am > > one > > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.> > > > > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it > seems > > to > > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few > > people > > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio > > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You can > > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say > NO.> > > > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence > > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if > at > > > all it has some truth in it.> > > > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT OF > > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.> > > > > > > > > What is your opinion?> > > > > > best regards,> > > utpal pathak > > > > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly > > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg & > > > Alcoholic drinks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

September 5, 2005

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Ramadas, Namaskar

I’ve

been following Sanjay around since 2002/2003. so in 2/3 years, i’ve only

seen him drink tea three times... in total. I like your work on Bhojana

prasna... please continue it.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and

articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao

05 September 2005 20:35

sohamsa

RE: Fwd: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

` ïI

ra " veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré

räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So Sanjay Ji was drinking more tea

till Shani- Shukra period which ended on 31/3/1989 ( using 360 Savana days per

year ).You wrote you saw Sanjay Ji drinking 3 times tea in a day,then how many

times coffee he was drinking those times ? Now if we see the Navamsha

chart,Chandra has moved to Common sign of Meena Rashi which is a watery sign.So

slowly he has stopped drinking beverages and started drinking water more.but as

I see his chart,he may consume Aurvedic Kashaaya ( a kind of liquid Ayurvedic

Medicine ).

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Visti Larsen

<visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav

and Ramadas, Namaskar

Sanjayji

almost never takes tea these days. In my time with him i’ve only seen him

drink tea 3 times. Otherwise its coffee... but he used to like Tea alot when he

was in service.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury

05 September 2005 19:03

sohamsa

Fwd: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji,

Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition

and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me

just by my name

and not with a -ji. Pranam.

Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's

tastes. I myself have

Su and Ve

aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My lagna has Ju in

it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well.

But only

occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked

with little spices

and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V)

and debilitated

in 2H giving indications that food will can be

non-vegetarian

although gradually I feel I no longer like

non-vegetarian food.

My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet

by graha dristi

but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.

Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with

*both* lagna and

lagnesha having strong association with Mars,

liking hot tea. Mars

symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature

and not

necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both

Mars and Saturn

truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is

tikta or bitter. In

Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we

find these indicators.

Of course as you said, there is possibility of

much more information

from prashna chart.

I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to

see more of his

research and theoretical interpretations.

Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H

? In your e-mail

you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter

substances and hence

tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the

choice as tea).

Pranam and regards,

Sourav

===============================================================

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` ïI ra " veNÔ gué_yae

nm>

>

> om çré räghavendra gurubhyo

namaù

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Sourav Ji,

> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart

regarding his food habits.

> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and

watery sign and Lagna

lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking

is clean.He likes

more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its

lord ( Shani

indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord

Shukra and 6th lord

Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including

sweets !! But

anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana

Prashna we can

find out some more clues about the different types

of food one

consumes.

> I hope this helps.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas rao.

>

> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Utpal-bhai,

>

Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

> Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in

the Part Two of the

> book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna

(Query related to

> Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to

what/how/how

much/with

> whom etc the food is taken.

>

> Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma

and Ve is defeated in

the

> grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What

are the avasthas of

> these two planets ?

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

>

====================================================================

>

> sohamsa , Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> >

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

wrote:vedic-

> astrology

> > Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700

(PDT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

> (Hot Tea & Mars)

> >

> > Dear Srinivas,

> >

> > Thanks for you erply & input. first

of all let me clear one

thing

> that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default

in any of our

> astrological discussions even if the mention

of it is not there.

> >

> > I have a Mars & Venus combination

& i am a very fast eater. i

> finish my

food very fast.

> >

> > Now i rememered one more chart who has a

Strong Influence of

Mars

> on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it

when he has written

> following line in a recent mail..

> >

> > " There are no charges but students

are expected to buy coffee

for

> Pt.Rath "

> >

> > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is

also habitual with

Tea/cofee.

> >

> > regards,

> > utpal

> >

> > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > Interesting discussion on

food!! The point to be noted or

> analysed

> > is 2H, 2HL and its

aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> Ascendant,

> > here implies, some finishing his / her

food fast!!! Mars is a

> action

> > oriented planet and he has little

patience !!! Venus is a " slow

> > eater " . One has to apply

" Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such cases.

> > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies "

taking non-vegetarian food and

> > drinking liquor " . This is ok

in indian context. When seen from

> an

> > european or western concept, it

makes no meaning.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > srinivas

> >

> > vedic astrology ,

Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Dear Utpal,

> > > You wrote:

" Generally food/drinking habits can be known

from

> > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of

Mars with Lagna &

Lagnesh

> > has a definite veto " .

> > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna

lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or

coffee in my life. I do

not

> > like the smell.

> > >

> > > Devika.

> > >

> > > utpal pathak

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > All of a sudden the above topic

cropped up in my mind when i

was

> > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > >

> > > Generally food/drinking habits can

be known from 2nd house,

its

> > lord

> > > etc...But Connection of Mars with

Lagna & Lagnesh has a

definite

> > veto

> > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people

in general start with a cup

> of

> > tea

> > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day

but there are some who almost

> > have

> > > obsession with tea & that too

taking it when it is very hot. I

> am

> > one

> > > of those few having Mars in Lagna

exchanging house with

Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Now while trying to co-relate it to

Jyotisha Principles, it

> seems

> > to

> > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried

to recollect charts of few

> > people

> > > and found one guy who was my

ex-colleague having Mars in

Scorpio

> > > Lagna with Venus and we both are

compulsive Tea-drinker. You

can

> > > offer it any time, no matter how

many times, we still won't

say

> NO.

> > >

> > > The above examples are not adequate

to form a firm opinion

hence

> > > members can see for themselves and

try to verify or disprove

if

> at

> > > all it has some truth in it.

> > >

> > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO

LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT

OF

> > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.

> > >

> > > What is your opinion?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > utpal pathak

> > >

> > > PS: This is just to sharpen our

predictive power in correctly

> > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak.

Part-2 will be of Non-veg

&

> > > Alcoholic drinks

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine

on us .......

> > >

> > > || Om Tat

Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > >

September 6, 2005

||om brihaspataye namah||

Dear Sri Ramadas, namaste

Further inputs to what Visti gave: Nowadays Sanjay almost never takes tea. He takes tea only when the coffee is so bad or not available.

He likes fairly strong & hot coffee (always cafe au lait; thats coffee with milk; very rarely black coffee) and occasionally with a little vanilla or caramel thrown in. He has very good memories of how I prepared coffee for him, LOL. Ugh! is the word that would come to his tongue.

Of course, coffee contains more caffeine than tea and there is always the nicotine to keep his mind on the intellectual planes....Jagannath not withstanding. The addiction to coffee is described by the aspect of Saturn on lagna in Sanjays chart....my chart is a counterexample in this regard.

regards

Hari

On 9/6/05, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ramadas, Namaskar

I've been following Sanjay around since 2002/2003. so in 2/3 years, i've only seen him drink tea three times... in total. I like your work on Bhojana prasna... please continue it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

September 6, 2005

Lakhmi Bahen

Namaste,

yours case seems to be a rare exception :-)

regards,

utpal

sohamsa , lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Utpal ji,

>

> I have Mars (in 6th house) influencing my lagna/

> chandra lagna, lagna/chandra lagna lord and 2nd lord

> too. Yet, till 10 years back, I never touched either

> coffee or tea. Even now i drink only one/two

> (occasionally) cups of tea per day and haven't tasted

> coffee till now and i am 45!

>

> Howzzat?

>

> :--))

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

> --- utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

>

> > Dear Sourav,

> > Namaste,

> >

> > My logic goes as follows:

> > Tea/Cofee in morning is quite common stuff with most

> > people. but what

> > standsout is Habit of it & taking it in HOT state.

> > so i feel that

> > Mars influence over 'Thee' (Lagna) & It's Lord both

> > is erquired to

> > really influnce the person's Habit of having Hot

> > Tea/cofee...

> >

> > Here you are now aware that i am overlooking 2nd

> > house & it's lord

> > (which carries the actual Portfolio) and projecting

> > only Lagna & it's

> > lord because the fact that the planet which

> > influences Lagna & it;s

> > lord strongly has a definate say over matters

> > connected to it's

> > natural significations and i am trying to findout

> > weather or not Mars

> > is related to Hot Stuffs like Tea/cofee etc.

> >

> > At present i have got 3 examples which proves above

> > right

> > 1) Utpal Pathak - Mars in Lagna with venus +

> > exchange with Mercury

> > (Lagna lord)

> > 2) Bhaskaran (My ex-professional mate) - Mars+Venus

> > i scorpio Lagna

> > 3) Kamalesh (from VA List) - Mars in 6th with Lagna

> > lord Sun &

> > Strongly influencing Lagna

> >

> > Now i erquest opinion of Shri Sanja Rathji, who also

> > has Strong

> > influence of Mars on Lagna + it's lord guru.

> >

> > best regards,

> >

> > utpal

> >

> > sohamsa , " Sourav Chowdhury "

> > <souravc108>

> > wrote:

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Utpal-bhai,

> > > Namaskar. Ok, I understand. But why

> > both Lagna and

> > > Lagnesh? I suspect only Lagna or Lagna lord is

> > suffice if at all

> > > that be the case. And don't forget to bring in the

> > connection to

> > the

> > > 2H/L when it comes to food/speech

> > >

> > > I would need your chart to look into it more.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> >

> =============================================================

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " utpal pathak "

> > <vedic_pathak>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Sourav Dada,

> > > >

> > > > After a long break, we are talking again.

> > > >

> > > > as i said in my email, Food Habits will be

> > discussed in Part-2.

> > > and i

> > > > think you mistakenly took my Mars+Venus in 2nd

> > house. actually

> > > they

> > > > are in Lagna & Mars is defeated.

> > > >

> > > > furthermore if you go thro' my original mail, I

> > have said that

> > > Though

> > > > 2nd house & lord is the indicator of

> > Food,Drinking habits in

> > > general

> > > > BUT Strong Influence of Mars on Lagna AND

> > Lagnesh both creates

> > HOT

> > > > TEA drinking habits.

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards after a long break

> > > >

> > > > utpal pathak

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " Sourav

> > Chowdhury "

> > > <souravc108>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Utpal-bhai,

> > > > > Namaskar. In the context of

> > food do read

> > Prashna

> > > > > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in

> > the Part Two of

> > > the

> > > > > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna

> > (Query related to

> > > > > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to

> > what/how/how

> > > much/with

> > > > > whom etc the food is taken.

> > > > >

> > > > > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and

> > Ve is defeated

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What

> > are the avasthas of

> > > > > these two planets ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sourav

> > > > >

> > >

> >

> ====================================================================

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak

> > <vedic_pathak>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:To:

> > vedic-

> > > > > astrology

> > > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

> > > > > > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

> > Food+Drinking Habits PART-

> > 1

> > > > > (Hot Tea & Mars)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Srinivas,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all

> > let me clear one

> > > thing

> > > > > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default

> > in any of our

> > > > > astrological discussions even if the mention

> > of it is not there.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a

> > very fast eater. i

> > > > > finish my food very fast.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a

> > Strong Influence of

> > > Mars

> > > > > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when

> > he has written

> > > > > following line in a recent mail..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " There are no charges but students are

> > expected to buy coffee

> > > for

> > > > > Pt.Rath "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also

> > habitual with

> > > > Tea/cofee.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > utpal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > > > > > Interesting discussion on food!! The point

> > to be noted or

> > > > > analysed

> > > > > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H

> > for an Aries

> > > > > Ascendant,

> > > > > > here implies, some finishing his / her food

> > fast!!! Mars is a

> > > > > action

> > > > > > oriented planet and he has little patience

> > !!! Venus is

> > > a " slow

> > > > > > eater " . One has to apply " Desh, Kaal Patra "

> > in all such

> > > cases.

> > > > > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking

> > non-vegetarian

> === message truncated ===

>

September 12, 2005

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So as per your informations it is very clear,that Sanjay Ji is not addicted either to Tea or Coffee.Because 3 times drinking tea in a day is not called as addiction.Now if you see me, as I am working in shifts here,i take 1 cup of coffee in the morning before going to duty and 2 times tea,1 around 9 AM and another cup at around 4-30 PM.In night shifts, I take 2 cups of tea to control sleep only.Addiction means one taking tea or coffee continuously ,say 4-5 times a day.Here most of the Kuwaitis drink tea about 5-6 times in a 8 Hr.shift duty.That also black tea.Is this not addiction ?

As per my knowledge addiction is caused by Rahu and his association with other planets in Jala tattwa or Vaayu tattwa.

So this confirms that Sanjay Ji is not addicted to tea or coffee.

At the moment I am writing some important notes about Vivaha Prashna and as soon as it completes, then I will be taking up Bhojana Prashna.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ramadas, Namaskar

I’ve been following Sanjay around since 2002/2003. so in 2/3 years, i’ve only seen him drink tea three times... in total. I like your work on Bhojana prasna... please continue it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao05 September 2005 20:35sohamsa Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So Sanjay Ji was drinking more tea till Shani- Shukra period which ended on 31/3/1989 ( using 360 Savana days per year ).You wrote you saw Sanjay Ji drinking 3 times tea in a day,then how many times coffee he was drinking those times ? Now if we see the Navamsha chart,Chandra has moved to Common sign of Meena Rashi which is a watery sign.So slowly he has stopped drinking beverages and started drinking water more.but as I see his chart,he may consume Aurvedic Kashaaya ( a kind of liquid Ayurvedic Medicine ).

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav and Ramadas, Namaskar

Sanjayji almost never takes tea these days. In my time with him i’ve only seen him drink tea 3 times. Otherwise its coffee... but he used to like Tea alot when he was in service.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury05 September 2005 19:03sohamsa Subject: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji, Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me just by my name and not with a -ji. Pranam.Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's

tastes. I myself have Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My lagna has Ju in it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well. But only occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked with little spices and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V) and debilitated in 2H giving indications that food will can be non-vegetarian although gradually I feel I no longer like non-vegetarian food.My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet by graha dristi but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.Utpal-bhai has an argument about

native, with *both* lagna and lagnesha having strong association with Mars, liking hot tea. Mars symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature and not necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both Mars and Saturn truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is tikta or bitter. In Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we find these indicators.Of course as you said, there is possibility of much more information from prashna chart. I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to see more of his research and theoretical

interpretations.Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H ? In your e-mail you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter substances and hence tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the choice as tea). Pranam and regards,Sourav===============================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm> > > om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sourav Ji,> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart regarding his food habits.> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and watery sign and Lagna lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking is clean.He likes more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its lord ( Shani indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord Shukra and 6th lord

Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including sweets !! But anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana Prashna we can find out some more clues about the different types of food one consumes.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas rao.> > Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108> wrote:> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear

Utpal-bhai,> Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with > whom etc the food is taken.> > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in the > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the

avasthas of > these two planets ?> > Best Regards,> > Sourav> ====================================================================> > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> > wrote:> > > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic->

astrology > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 > (Hot Tea & Mars)> > > > Dear Srinivas,> > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our > astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not

there.> > > > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i > finish my food very fast.> > > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written > following line in a recent mail..> > > > "There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for > Pt.Rath :)"> > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is

also habitual with Tea/cofee.> > > > regards,> > utpal> > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:> > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or > analysed > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries > Ascendant, > > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a > action

> > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a "slow > > eater". One has to apply "Desh, Kaal Patra" in all such cases. > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and > > drinking liquor". This is ok in indian context. When seen from > an > > european or western concept, it makes no meaning. > > > > With regards,> > > > srinivas > >

> > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Utpal,> > > You wrote: "Generally food/drinking habits can be known from > > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh > > has a definite veto ". > > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not

> > like the smell.> > > > > > Devika.> > > > > > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > Dear Friends,> > > Namaste,> > > > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was > > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.> > > > > >

Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its > > lord > > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite > > veto > > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup > of > > tea > > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost > > have > > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I > am

> > one > > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.> > > > > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it > seems > > to > > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few > > people > > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio > > > Lagna with Venus and we both are compulsive Tea-drinker. You

can > > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say > NO.> > > > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence > > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if > at > > > all it has some truth in it.> > > > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES

LOT OF > > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.> > > > > > > > > What is your opinion?> > > > > > best regards,> > > utpal pathak > > > > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly > > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg & > > > Alcoholic drinks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info: vedic->

astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

September 12, 2005

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Ramadas Rao, Namaskar

Please

read carefully. In the three years that i have known Sanjay, i have only seen

him drink Tea three times... not in a day but in three years. In other words ‘one

cup per year’, at most. As for Coffee, he drinks always one in the

morning, two in the afternoon, and maybe also two at night on a hectic day,

otherwise its three times a day. I can’t say that he is addicted, but he takes

alot of care to ensure that he gets it. His smoking on the other hand is a

different matter.

Please

with your notes present chart examples, otherwise the notes are of no use, as

you know.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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articles visit:

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sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of

Ramadas Rao

12 September 2005 18:25

sohamsa

RE: Fwd: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

` ïI

ra " veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré

räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So as per your informations it is

very clear,that Sanjay Ji is not addicted either to Tea or Coffee.Because 3

times drinking tea in a day is not called as addiction.Now if you see me, as I

am working in shifts here,i take 1 cup of coffee in the morning before going to

duty and 2 times tea,1 around 9

AM and another cup at around 4-30 PM.In night shifts, I take 2 cups

of tea to control sleep only.Addiction means one taking tea or coffee

continuously ,say 4-5 times a day.Here most of the Kuwaitis drink tea about 5-6

times in a 8 Hr.shift duty.That also black tea.Is this not addiction ?

As per my knowledge addiction is caused by Rahu and his

association with other planets in Jala tattwa or Vaayu tattwa.

So this confirms that Sanjay Ji is not addicted to tea or

coffee.

At the moment I am writing some important notes about

Vivaha Prashna and as soon as it completes, then I will be taking up Bhojana Prashna.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Visti Larsen

<visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Ramadas, Namaskar

I’ve

been following Sanjay around since 2002/2003. so in 2/3 years, i’ve only

seen him drink tea three times... in total. I like your work on Bhojana

prasna... please continue it.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and

articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao

05 September 2005 20:35

sohamsa

RE: Fwd: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

` ïI ra " veNÔ

gué_yae

nm>

om çré

räghavendra gurubhyo

namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So Sanjay Ji was drinking more tea

till Shani- Shukra period which ended on 31/3/1989 ( using 360 Savana days per

year ).You wrote you saw Sanjay Ji drinking 3 times tea in a day,then how many

times coffee he was drinking those times ? Now if we see the Navamsha

chart,Chandra has moved to Common sign of Meena Rashi which is a watery sign.So

slowly he has stopped drinking beverages and started drinking water more.but as

I see his chart,he may consume Aurvedic Kashaaya ( a kind of liquid Ayurvedic

Medicine ).

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Visti Larsen

<visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav

and Ramadas, Namaskar

Sanjayji

almost never takes tea these days. In my time with him i’ve only seen him

drink tea 3 times. Otherwise its coffee... but he used to like Tea alot when he

was in service.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury

05 September 2005 19:03

sohamsa

Fwd: Re:

[vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji,

Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition

and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me

just by my name

and not with a -ji. Pranam.

Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's

tastes. I myself have

Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My

lagna has Ju in

it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well.

But only

occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked

with little spices

and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V)

and debilitated

in 2H giving indications that food will can be

non-vegetarian

although gradually I feel I no longer like

non-vegetarian food.

My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet

by graha dristi

but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.

Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with

*both* lagna and

lagnesha having strong association with Mars,

liking hot tea. Mars

symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature

and not

necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both

Mars and Saturn

truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is

tikta or bitter. In

Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we

find these indicators.

Of course as you said, there is possibility of

much more information

from prashna chart.

I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to

see more of his

research and theoretical interpretations.

Can you kindly let us know more about food and 2H

? In your e-mail

you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter

substances and hence

tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the

choice as tea).

Pranam and regards,

Sourav

===============================================================

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` ïI ra " veNÔ gué_yae

nm>

>

> om çré räghavendra gurubhyo

namaù

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Sourav Ji,

> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart

regarding his food habits.

> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and

watery sign and Lagna

lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking

is clean.He likes

more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its

lord ( Shani

indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord

Shukra and 6th lord

Surya.He also likes sour and hot curries including

sweets !! But

anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana

Prashna we can

find out some more clues about the different types

of food one

consumes.

> I hope this helps.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas rao.

>

> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Utpal-bhai,

>

Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna

> Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in

the Part Two of the

> book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna

(Query related to

> Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to

what/how/how

much/with

> whom etc the food is taken.

>

> Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma

and Ve is defeated in

the

> grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What

are the avasthas of

> these two planets ?

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

>

====================================================================

>

> sohamsa , Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> wrote:

> >

> > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>

wrote:vedic-

> astrology

> > Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak>

> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700

(PDT)

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re:

Food+Drinking Habits PART-1

> (Hot Tea & Mars)

> >

> > Dear Srinivas,

> >

> > Thanks for you erply & input. first

of all let me clear one

thing

> that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default

in any of our

> astrological discussions even if the mention

of it is not there.

> >

> > I have a Mars & Venus combination

& i am a very fast eater. i

> finish my food very fast.

> >

> > Now i rememered one more chart who has a

Strong Influence of

Mars

> on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it

when he has written

> following line in a recent mail..

> >

> > " There are no charges but students

are expected to buy coffee

for

> Pt.Rath "

> >

> > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is

also habitual with

Tea/cofee.

> >

> > regards,

> > utpal

> >

> > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:

> > Interesting discussion on

food!! The point to be noted or

> analysed

> > is 2H, 2HL and its

aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries

> Ascendant,

> > here implies, some finishing his / her

food fast!!! Mars is a

> action

> > oriented planet and he has little

patience !!! Venus is a " slow

> > eater " . One has to apply

" Desh, Kaal Patra " in all such cases.

> > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies "

taking non-vegetarian food and

> > drinking liquor " . This is ok

in indian context. When seen from

> an

> > european or western concept, it

makes no meaning.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > srinivas

> >

> > vedic astrology ,

Devika Dhillon

> > <devikadhillon> wrote:

> > > Dear Utpal,

> > > You wrote:

" Generally food/drinking habits can be known

from

> > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of

Mars with Lagna &

Lagnesh

> > has a definite veto " .

> > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna

lord Mars is in 2nd house

> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or

coffee in my life. I do

not

> > like the smell.

> > >

> > > Devika.

> > >

> > > utpal pathak

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > > Dear Friends,

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > All of a sudden the above topic

cropped up in my mind when i

was

> > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.

> > >

> > > Generally food/drinking habits can

be known from 2nd house,

its

> > lord

> > > etc...But Connection of Mars with

Lagna & Lagnesh has a

definite

> > veto

> > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people

in general start with a cup

> of

> > tea

> > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day

but there are some who almost

> > have

> > > obsession with tea & that too

taking it when it is very hot. I

> am

> > one

> > > of those few having Mars in Lagna

exchanging house with

Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Now while trying to co-relate it to

Jyotisha Principles, it

> seems

> > to

> > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried

to recollect charts of few

> > people

> > > and found one guy who was my

ex-colleague having Mars in

Scorpio

> > > Lagna with Venus and we both are

compulsive Tea-drinker. You

can

> > > offer it any time, no matter how

many times, we still won't

say

> NO.

> > >

> > > The above examples are not adequate

to form a firm opinion

hence

> > > members can see for themselves and

try to verify or disprove

if

> at

> > > all it has some truth in it.

> > >

> > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO

LAGNA & IT'S LORD CREATES LOT

OF

> > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA &

SPICY FOOD.

> > >

> > > What is your opinion?

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > utpal pathak

> > >

> > > PS: This is just to sharpen our

predictive power in correctly

> > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak.

Part-2 will be of Non-veg

&

> > > Alcoholic drinks

> > >

> > > Group info: vedic-

> astrology/info.html

> > >

> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

> >

> > >

> > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine

on us .......

> > >

> > > || Om Tat

Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

> > >

September 13, 2005

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Chi.Visti,

Thanks for your mail.Now regarding my notes,most of the people come with charts asking for marriage.If anybody asks Prashna related to marriage,then I can add such Prashna charts.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar

Please read carefully. In the three years that i have known Sanjay, i have only seen him drink Tea three times... not in a day but in three years. In other words ‘one cup per year’, at most. As for Coffee, he drinks always one in the morning, two in the afternoon, and maybe also two at night on a hectic day, otherwise its three times a day. I can’t say that he is addicted, but he takes alot of care to ensure that he gets it. His smoking on the other hand is a different matter.

Please with your notes present chart examples, otherwise the notes are of no use, as you know.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao12 September 2005 18:25sohamsa Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So as per your informations it is very clear,that Sanjay Ji is not addicted either to Tea or Coffee.Because 3 times drinking tea in a day is not called as addiction.Now if you see me, as I am working in shifts here,i take 1 cup of coffee in the morning before going to duty and 2 times tea,1 around 9 AM and another cup at around 4-30 PM.In night shifts, I take 2 cups of tea to control sleep only.Addiction means one taking tea or coffee continuously ,say 4-5 times a day.Here most of the Kuwaitis drink tea about 5-6 times in a 8 Hr.shift duty.That also black tea.Is this not addiction ?

As per my knowledge addiction is caused by Rahu and his association with other planets in Jala tattwa or Vaayu tattwa.

So this confirms that Sanjay Ji is not addicted to tea or coffee.

At the moment I am writing some important notes about Vivaha Prashna and as soon as it completes, then I will be taking up Bhojana Prashna.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ramadas, Namaskar

I’ve been following Sanjay around since 2002/2003. so in 2/3 years, i’ve only seen him drink tea three times... in total. I like your work on Bhojana prasna... please continue it.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao05 September 2005 20:35sohamsa Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm>

om çré räghavendra gurubhyo namaù

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Visti,

Thanks for your mail.So Sanjay Ji was drinking more tea till Shani- Shukra period which ended on 31/3/1989 ( using 360 Savana days per year ).You wrote you saw Sanjay Ji drinking 3 times tea in a day,then how many times coffee he was drinking those times ? Now if we see the Navamsha chart,Chandra has moved to Common sign of Meena Rashi which is a watery sign.So slowly he has stopped drinking beverages and started drinking water more.but as I see his chart,he may consume Aurvedic Kashaaya ( a kind of liquid Ayurvedic Medicine ).

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav and Ramadas, Namaskar

Sanjayji almost never takes tea these days. In my time with him i’ve only seen him drink tea 3 times. Otherwise its coffee... but he used to like Tea alot when he was in service.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sourav Chowdhury05 September 2005 19:03sohamsa Subject: Fwd: Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 (Hot Tea & Mars)

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Dear Guru Ramdas Rao-ji, Namaskar. I am a student of SJC tradition and hence a student of you as well. Kindly call me just by my name and not with a -ji. Pranam.Yes you are absolutely right about Sanjay-ji's tastes. I myself have

Su and Ve aspecting the lagna by rasi drishti. My lagna has Ju in it. I myself life spicy food and sweets as well. But only occassionally. I prefer simple satvik food cooked with little spices and relish that kind of food most. I have Mars (V) and debilitated in 2H giving indications that food will can be non-vegetarian although gradually I feel I no longer like non-vegetarian food.My lagna-lord and AK is not aspected by any planet by graha dristi but only Ma aspects it by rasi-drishti.Utpal-bhai has an argument about native, with *both* lagna and lagnesha having strong association with Mars, liking hot tea. Mars symbolizes hot substances (in terms of temperature and not necessarily in terms of spices) but either/both Mars and Saturn truely bring in the 'tea' connections and tea is tikta or bitter. In Prashna Marga, Chapter XXVII Stanza 18 & 19 we find these indicators.Of course as you said, there is possibility of much more information from prashna chart. I am not refuting Utpal-bhai's idea but I want to see more of his research and theoretical interpretations.Can you kindly let us know more

about food and 2H ? In your e-mail you talked about Shani as indicator of bitter substances and hence tea (could be coffee as well unless Ju makes the choice as tea). Pranam and regards,Sourav===============================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` ïI ra"veNÔ gué_yae nm> > > om çré räghavendra gurubhyo

namaù > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Sourav Ji,> You are discussing Sanjay Ji's chart regarding his food habits.> In his chart, Lagna is a common sign and watery sign and Lagna lord Guru is there itself.So the food he is taking is clean.He likes more of tea as Shani (V) aspects Lagna and its lord ( Shani indicates bitter ) and also aspects 3rd lord Shukra and 6th lord Surya.He also likes sour and

hot curries including sweets !! But anyhow he likes more tea in a day.But in a Bhojana Prashna we can find out some more clues about the different types of food one consumes.> I hope this helps.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas rao.> > Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108> wrote:> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear Utpal-bhai,> Namaskar. In the context of food do read Prashna > Maarga/ Dr. B. V. Raman Chapter XXVII (27) in the Part Two of the > book. Although it relates to Bhojana Prashna (Query related to > Food), it gives a wealth of indicators as to what/how/how much/with > whom etc the food is taken.> > Incidentally, in your 2H, which amongst Ma and Ve is defeated in the > grahayuddha ? Any of them retrograde ? What are the avasthas of > these two planets ?> > Best Regards,> > Sourav> ====================================================================> > sohamsa , Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> > wrote:> > > > > > Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:vedic-> astrology >

> Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak>> > Mon, 5 Sep 2005 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT)> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Food+Drinking Habits PART-1 > (Hot Tea & Mars)> > > > Dear Srinivas,> > > > Thanks for you erply & input. first of all let me clear one thing > that Desh/Kaal/Paatra principle is by default in any of our > astrological discussions even if the mention of it is not there.> >

> > I have a Mars & Venus combination & i am a very fast eater. i > finish my food very fast.> > > > Now i rememered one more chart who has a Strong Influence of Mars > on Lagna as well Lagnesh. I remembered it when he has written > following line in a recent mail..> > > > "There are no charges but students are expected to buy coffee for > Pt.Rath :)"> > > > i am not aware if Shri Sanjay Rath is also habitual with Tea/cofee.> > > > regards,> > utpal> > > > Sre_eram <sreeram64@s...> wrote:> > Interesting discussion on food!! The point to be noted or > analysed > > is 2H, 2HL and its aspects. LL-Mars in 2H for an Aries > Ascendant, > > here implies, some finishing his / her food fast!!! Mars is a > action > > oriented planet and he has little patience !!! Venus is a "slow > > eater". One has to apply "Desh, Kaal Patra" in all such cases. > > Rahu aspect on 2H also implies " taking non-vegetarian food and > > drinking liquor". This is ok in indian context. When seen from > an > > european or western concept, it makes no meaning. > > > > With regards,> > > > srinivas > > > > vedic astrology , Devika Dhillon > > <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Utpal,> > > You wrote: "Generally food/drinking habits can be known from > > 2nd house, its lord...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh > > has a definite veto ". > > > I am Aries ascendant and my lagna lord Mars is in 2nd house> > (Taurus). I have never had any tea or coffee in my life. I do not > > like the smell.> > > > > > Devika.> > > > > > > > > utpal pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:> > > Dear Friends,> > > Namaste,> > > > > > All of a sudden the above topic cropped up in my mind when i was > > > enjoying a cup of very hot tea.> > > > > > Generally food/drinking habits can be known from 2nd house, its > > lord > > > etc...But Connection of Mars with Lagna & Lagnesh has a definite > > veto > > > as far as `Chay' goes. Many people in general start with a cup > of > > tea > > > and mostly take 1 or 2 cup a day but there are some who almost > > have > > > obsession with tea & that too taking it when it is very hot. I > am > > one > > > of those few having Mars in Lagna exchanging house with Lagnesh.> > > > > > Now while trying to co-relate it to Jyotisha Principles, it > seems > > to > > > me that Mars is the focus. I tried to recollect charts of few > > people > > > and found one guy who was my ex-colleague having Mars in Scorpio > > > Lagna with Venus and we both are

compulsive Tea-drinker. You can > > > offer it any time, no matter how many times, we still won't say > NO.> > > > > > The above examples are not adequate to form a firm opinion hence > > > members can see for themselves and try to verify or disprove if > at > > > all it has some truth in it.> > > > > > MARS HAVING STRONG RELATION TO LAGNA

& IT'S LORD CREATES LOT OF > > > ATTACHMENTS TO HOT TEA & SPICY FOOD.> > > > > > > > > What is your opinion?> > > > > > best regards,> > > utpal pathak > > > > > > PS: This is just to sharpen our predictive power in correctly > > > analyzing specific habits of Jatak. Part-2 will be of Non-veg & > > > Alcoholic drinks> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:

vedic-> astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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