Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Tijiana, Namaskar. Thankyou for your compliments, and i hope everything is good and well in Serbia. Answers to your questions, point by point. Yes, it works both ways. This is more useful when we use dasas such as vimshottari. Based on planets in the bhavas, we develope a certain attitude towards that area of life. Among those bhavas, the kendras and trikonas always have a vital say. The trikonas come under the domain of the Sun God, and relate to the self or atman, whilst the kendras come under the domain of the Moon and the mana. Hence among the kendras, the lagna is that part of the Mana which is our own, or inherited mana from previous existances, because it is also a trine. The four remaining are parts of the mana which are influenced due to our childhood (fourth house), relationships (seventh house) and occupation (tenth house), i.e. circumstances. The Sambandha between the lagna/lagnesh and the planets in the bhavas, will show whether these ‘experiences’ are liked by the person or not. This is why the special warning; worship of grahas (in the fifth house) which are inimical towards the lagnesh can destroy the children. Similarly this is the case for other bhavas also. This only relates to graha worship. So this means the lagna is dominating over the guiding principles, and can influence the experience of other bhavas, as you said. However even more important than the lagna is the tenth house, who is the most strongest house in the horoscope, as it is Indra and rules the Indriyas or senses... this is considered the throne in the horoscope. Planets in the tenth house can have a serious impact on the affairs of all other houses, example: If Rahu is placed in the tenth house, the bhava occupied by the Sun will be eclipsed, as Rahu eclipses the Sun. Similarly Ketu is said to cause the eclipse of the Moon – this is based on the vara chakra. As for the example you gave, this is a classic example of Kapata Yoga, where a person having good nature, character and ideals (lagna) is subject to cheating by others (malefics in the fourth). So here the benefic in the lagna did not remove the experience. I hope this answers your question. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of tijanadamjanovic 29 August 2005 09:47 sohamsa Jyotisha fundamentals Om Namah Shivaya Greetings from Serbia to everyone on Sohamsa list! A special one to Mr. Visti Larsen and my compliments for the book! I`ve got a chance to read it only now and I`m sory I`ve missed a chance to share my impressions with You while You were here. Basics are something that we are coming to on and on and realizing that many things are not so simply and clear as they seem. I have two questions for Vistiji. 1. On the page 157 You wrote: " If the lagna has krura grahas, the native will become krura afer the age of maturity of that graha in lagna " . My question is - does the same stand for saumya grahas? 2.The same page- " A person`s nature may change (...) depending on the planets occupying the kendras. " I have some doubts about this for a long time and hope that You`ll have time and patience to direct my thoughts. The way I see kendras 1,4,7,10 - material existance, state of mind( that we tend to qualify by quantity of happiness),interaction with others and karma; the last being the strongest and that is confirmed with the fact that everything we do is karma and our future (life) is based on it. Theese are ever PRESENT influances of the material existance=we can not avoid strong infl. of the grahas in kendras. But I don`t think that grahas in 4,7,10 will change the nature. Here I see as a crucial to see what the word used by Maharisi Parasara EXACTLY means. A simple example I have in mind for considering the nature of a person. Let`s say a person has Guru in lagna and krura grahas in 4. and 7. (I`m not taking Sarpa yoga into account now). This person tends to OVERCOME krura infl. due to dhi shakti he has and it is inherent to his nature. Sani in lagna, for example, will give lack of dhi shakti and can make a person ignorant about the causes that stand behind kendra`s (and other) good/bad infl. Ignorance here makes a man krura, he will tend to punish, blame...the world (for the fruits of his own past actions)... The point is-I think that nature won`t change, it will respond differently to supporting or inimical energies in life in accordance with the krura/saumya nature and STRENGHT of a lagna? I hope this long mail of mine won`t be boring for You. Sincerely, Tijana D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Guruji, Pranaam For such a Kapata Yoga, how do we determine what kind of people the person will be cheated by? Do we look at the houses lorded by the malefics, or the chara karakatwa of the malefics? Thank you, Samir At 14:34 01/09/2005, you wrote: ______________________ Message: 1 Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:43:24 +0200 " Visti Larsen " <visti RE: Jyotisha fundamentals ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Tijiana, Namaskar. Thankyou for your compliments, and i hope everything is good and well in Serbia. Answers to your questions, point by point. 1. Yes, it works both ways. This is more useful when we use dasas such as vimshottari. 2. Based on planets in the bhavas, we develope a certain attitude towards that area of life. Among those bhavas, the kendras and trikonas always have a vital say. The trikonas come under the domain of the Sun God, and relate to the self or atman, whilst the kendras come under the domain of the Moon and the mana. Hence among the kendras, the lagna is that part of the Mana which is our own, or inherited mana from previous existances, because it is also a trine. The four remaining are parts of the mana which are influenced due to our childhood (fourth house), relationships (seventh house) and occupation (tenth house), i.e. circumstances. a. The Sambandha between the lagna/lagnesh and the planets in the bhavas, will show whether these 'experiences' are liked by the person or not. This is why the special warning; worship of grahas (in the fifth house) which are inimical towards the lagnesh can destroy the children. Similarly this is the case for other bhavas also. This only relates to graha worship. b. So this means the lagna is dominating over the guiding principles, and can influence the experience of other bhavas, as you said. However even more important than the lagna is the tenth house, who is the most strongest house in the horoscope, as it is Indra and rules the Indriyas or senses... this is considered the throne in the horoscope. Planets in the tenth house can have a serious impact on the affairs of all other houses, example: If Rahu is placed in the tenth house, the bhava occupied by the Sun will be eclipsed, as Rahu eclipses the Sun. Similarly Ketu is said to cause the eclipse of the Moon - this is based on the vara chakra. c. As for the example you gave, this is a classic example of Kapata Yoga, where a person having good nature, character and ideals (lagna) is subject to cheating by others (malefics in the fourth). So here the benefic in the lagna did not remove the experience. I hope this answers your question. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: < http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or < http://astrovisti.com> http://astrovisti.com *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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