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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear

Sanjay ji,

Namaste

 

 

I

have just received the July - September 2005 Jyotish Digest and refer to the

following points written by Mr. V.V. Divekar in the “Letters†section on page 7.

The gentleman has written that birth details were not furnished and requests

him to refer to the Jan-Mar 2005 issue of JD on page 50 where all names,

including birth data were provided. On Muhurtas and their inviolate nature, Mr.

V.V. Divekar’s protraction on Chandrashekhar Sharma’s  disdain on ParaçÄra’s

teachings were unnecessary.

It

is my believe that Chandrashekharji would ever claim to have derived a “new

system†of looking at Bhava bala but more than likely, he  strictly adheres on the method of ancients

than on Çripati or Keçava systems, (which came into practice at a much later

date).

Without

prejudice, I reiterate that anyone who has been a member on the Vedic Astrology

list is very aware of the fact that Chandrashekharji is a purist in maintaining

Jyotiña in its original form.

 

Muhurta Rationale:

 

On

the purported remarks of Chandrashekharji on Muhurtas that are not being drawn

up for taking Pravrajya in Çankara Açram with birth details of Çankaracaryas,

these are two separate matters. Going over the same article, you will note the

following rationale:

a) One relates

to an action or a ceremony, which is in the domain of Muhurta

b) The second

is with regards to the birth of a living being (person).

 

So

what is muhurta all about? Is every muhurta (which is recommended by the sages)

to be excluded in Sanskaras (religious rites and other ceremonies) inviolate as

is being made out? Having read many scriptures and astrological texts, this

appears to be rather unlikely.

Let

us begin with marriage Muhurtas, as seems to be the controversy.

Even

a beginner of astrology has heard about Simhastha Guru being one of the

excluded times for the performance of marriage and other religious ceremonies.

So is this entire year or so of the time of Guru’s residence in Simha rasi

really to be excluded? Is this the only time related to Guru that is excluded

for these ceremonies?

Let

us see what is said about the ceremonies for which Simhastha Guru is to be

considered as a muhurta to avoid:

 

Muhurta

Chintamani

vaPyaramtfagkªpÉvnarMÉàitóe ìta==rMÉaeTsgRvxUàveznmhadanain saemaòke,

gaedana¢y[àpaàwmkaepakmR vedìt< nIlaeÖahmwaitpÚizzus<Skaran!

surSwapnm!.46.

väpyärämataòägaküpabhavanärambhapratiñöhe vratä

'rambhotsargavadhüpraveçanamahädänäni somäñöake|

godänägrayaëaprapäprathamakopäkarma vedavrataà

nélodvähamathätipannaçiçusaàskärän surasthäpanam||46||

 

Meaning:

Construction of lakes, gardens, dams, wells, laying of foundation ceremony,

beginning and end of Vratas, entry of bride, great Danas ( of 16 mahaadana)

soma yaaga, añtakÄ

çraòha, giving cow in dÄna,

feeding the child for the first time, setting up of water dispensing for the

thirsty, çrÄvaìi

karma beginning, matter related to Vedas (there vratas like upanishada etc.),

setting a bull free, religious ceremonies of a child, setting up idol of Gods,

dI]amaEiÃivvahmu{fnmpUv¡ devtIweR][< s<Nyasai¶pir¢haE

n & pitsNdzaR=iÉ;ekaE gmm!,

dékñämauïjivivähamuëòanamapürvaà devatérthekñaëaà sannyäsägniparigrahau

nåpatisandarçä'bhiñekau gamam|

 

Meaning:

Receiving /giving dékçÄ,

Maunja sanskara, marriage, tonsuring, first time darçana of Deva or a holy

place (Tértha), taking sannyÄsa, holding of

agnihotra, visiting or seeing the King, coronation of King, special (religious)

travels.

catumaRSysmav & it ïv[yaeveRx< prI]a< TyjedÅ“ v & ÉTvaStizzuTv

#JyistyaeNyuRnaixmase twa.47.

cäturmäsyasamävåti çravaëayorvedhaà parékñäà tyajed våddhtvästaçiçutva

ijyasitayornyunädhimäse tathä||47||

 

Meaning:

CaturmÄsa

yagïyÄ,

finishing studies, ear piercing, specific assessments e.g. examinations or

tests should be given up (may not be carried out) when Guru or Çukra are old or

combust as also during Kñaya masa and adhimasa.

 

The

author of (Muhurta Chintamani) goes on to say that besides these times the

above work are not to be done when:   

ASte vJy¡ is<hn³SwjIve vJy¡ keicÖ³ge caitcare,

guvaRidTye ivñ " ôe=ip p]e àaecuStÖÎNtrÆaidÉU;am!.48.

aste varjyaà siàhanakrasthajéve varjyaà kecidvakrage cäticäre|

gurväditye viçvaghastre'pi pakñe procustadvaddantaratnädibhüñäm||48||

 

When

Guru is combust or occupying Simha and Makara rasi all above said matter should

not be conducted. Some learned are of the opinion that these auspicious

ceremonies should not be performed when Guru is retrograde or aticÄri

( in fast motion).

 

If

we go by the logic of applying çlokas in isolation, no çiçyas would have been

accepted nor Jyotiña Conferences and various other religious rites/events of

such nature should take place during Guru’s entire transit in Siṃha

especially during the period from 2nd August, 2003-26th

August, 2004. Wading through my old mail, I realize that both the Puri and the

Nagpur Jyotiña Conferences were held during this “barred†period. Like in any

sort of “evilsâ€, there are also antidotes as taught in Chapter 12 of BÃ¥hatpÄraçahoraçaçtra.

Likewise, the section on Muhurtas in Naraòa PurÄëa as well

as Muhurata Chintamani etc. also provided exceptions to the rule. These are

based on not the planetary position as is being projected but only on Geographical/regional

locations. Muhurta Chintamani and also other ancient texts say:

is<he guraE is<hlve ivvahae neòae=w gaedaeÄrtí yavt!,

ÉaigrwIyaMytq< ih dae;ae naNyÇ deze tpne=ip me;e.49.

siàhe gurau siàhalave viväho neñöo'tha godottarataçca yävat|

bhägirathéyämyataöaà hi doño nänyatra deçe tapane'pi meñe||49||

 

Meaning: Guru is to be considered

with blemish for above ceremonies when in Siàha rasi and Siàha navamça and the

doça is applicable only for the area between northern shore of Godavari river and

the southern shore of GangÄ river. This

Guru is not to be treated with blemishes for other parts of the country.

 

The

sages also give other areas where this is permissible to perform the ceremonies

and also the region where it is specifically prohibited to perform these

rituals.

me;ekeR sn! ìtaeÖahae g¼agaedaNtre=ip c,

svR> is<hguêvRJyR> kil¼e gaEfgujRre.51.

meñerke san vratodväho gaìgägodäntare'pi ca|

sarvaù siàhagurürvarjyaù kaliìge gauòagurjare||51||

 

Meaning: If Sun is in Meça rasi, maunja, marriages

can be performed even in the area between Godavari and GangÄ, In Kalinga (Orissa), Gauda (part of bengal) and

Gurjara (Gujarat) province Guru in simha rasi

is totally prohibited.

 

It is further said:

revapuveR g{fkIpiíme c zae[syaedGdi][e nIc #Jy>,

vJyaeR nay< kaE»[e magxe c gaEfe isNxaE vjRnIy> zuÉe;u.52.

reväpurve gaëòaképaçcime ca çoëasyodagdakñiëe néca ijyaù|

varjyo näyaà kauìkaëe mägadhe ca

gauòe sindhau varjanéyaù çubheñu||52||

 

To the east of Narmada river, west of gandaka river, north of river Son,

and in southern states debilitated Guru doça is not applicable. It is

applicable to Kaunkada, Magadha, Gauda and Sindhu deça.

 

Now

applying the parameters with these exceptions, I feel we at may have also

flouted the rules. But I personally know that this was not the case with my

visit and dÄrñana

I have the the Çré

Jagannatha Temple.

 

For

the benefit of others, let us see what is so special about the Dasahara Day, in

other words, during VijayÄ Daçamé when

Chandrashekharji’s marriage took place which was on 25th October

1974.

 

#;mais ista dzmI ivjya zuÉkmRsu isiÃkrI mta,

iñamäsi sitä daçamé vijayä çubhakarmasu siddhikaré matä|

 

The

Çukla Daçami (10th tithi of bright lunar fortnight) called Vijaya

Daçamé gives success in auspicious ceremonies.

 

It

is well known that three and half Muhurtas (3.5 muhurta) are said to be

auspicious in all auspicious matters. I would expect that all purohits and at

least the more erudite jyotiña to know the basic facts about muhurta which are

stated below:

 

1) Akçaya tritiya,

 

2) Bali Pratipada,

3) VijayÄ Daçami

(Dasahara Day) which lasts from sunrise to sunrise,

4) and Padwa

i.e. Caitra Çuòha PrÄtipada which is called Half muhurta in

which the first half of the day is being treated as wholly auspicious.

 

Are

we to exclude marriages on CaturmÄsa (4 months), also a well known fact

discussed in the saçtras and Naraòa PurÄna that

CaturmÄsa begins and ends during different tithis regionally in

Bharat. As I would suspect, the reason why it is considered regionally during

caturmÄsa is mainly due to weather conditions as

the entire year is not excluded during Siàhastha Guru.

 

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109

बà¥à¤°à¤¹à¥à¤®à¤¦à¥‡à¤µà¤®à¤¨à¥‹à¤°à¥à¤®à¤¾à¤¨ पितà¥à¤°à¥à¤¯à¤‚ सौरं च सावनमà¥à¥¤

चानà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤®à¤¾à¤°à¥à¤•à¥à¤·à¤‚ गà¥à¤°à¥‹à¤°à¥à¤®à¤¾à¤¨à¤®à¤¿à¤¤à¤¿ मानानि वै नवः॥५६।१०९

brahmadevamanormÄna

pitryaá¹ sauraá¹ ca sÄvanam|

cÄndramÄrká¹£aá¹ gurormÄnamiti mÄnÄni vai navaḥ||56|109

 

Meaning:

Measures of Time which are nine, being BrahmÄ, Deva, Manu, PitÃ¥ya, Saura, SÄvana, Candra, Ärkña and Guru.

 

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110

 

à¤à¤¤à¥‡à¤·à¤¾à¤‚ नवमानानां वà¥à¤¯à¤µà¤¹à¤¾à¤°à¥‹ तà¥à¤° पषà¥à¤šà¤­à¤¿à¤ƒà¥¤

तेषां पृथकà¥à¤ªà¥ƒà¤¥à¤•à¥à¤•ारà¥à¤¯à¤‚ वकà¥à¤·à¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡ वà¥à¤¯à¤µà¤¹à¤¾à¤°à¤¤à¤ƒà¥¥à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥¦

eteá¹£Äá¹

navamÄnÄnÄá¹ vyavahÄro 'tra paá¹£cabhiḥ|

teá¹£Äá¹ pá¹›thakpá¹›thakkÄryaá¹ vaká¹£yate

vyavahÄrataḥ||56|110

 

Meaning: From among these nine measures, practical reckoning

is done only through five which is set out here.

 

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111

 

गà¥à¤°à¤¹à¤¾à¤£à¤¾à¤‚ निखिलशà¥à¤šà¤¾à¤°à¥‹ गॄहà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡ सौर मानतः।

वृषà¥à¤Ÿà¥‡à¤°à¥à¤µà¤¿à¤§à¤¾à¤¨à¤‚ सà¥à¤¤à¥à¤°à¥€à¤—रà¥à¤­à¤ƒ सावनेनैव गृहà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡à¥¥à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥§

grahÄṇÄá¹

nikhilaÅ›cÄro gá¹hyate saura mÄnataḥ|

vṛṣṭervidhÄnaá¹ strÄ«garbhaḥ sÄvanenaiva gá¹›hyate||56|111

 

Meaning:

Planetary motion is reckoned through Solar Measure – Saura-MÄna. The reckoning of the rainy season and pregnancy of

women is through the civil measure – SÄvana-MÄna.

 

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112a

 

पà¥à¤°à¤µà¤°à¥à¤·à¤£à¤¾à¤‚ समे गरà¥à¤­à¥Œà¤‚ नाकà¥à¤·à¤¤à¥à¤°à¥‡à¤£ पà¥à¤°à¤—ृहà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡à¥¤à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥¨à¤…

pravará¹£aṇÄá¹ same garbhauá¹ nÄká¹£atreṇa pragá¹›hyate|56|112a

 

Meaning:

Rains and pregnancy of clouds are reckoned through the sidereal measure – NÄkñatra-MÄna

 

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112b-113a

 

यातà¥à¤°à¥‹à¤¦à¥à¤µà¤¾à¤¹à¤µà¥à¤°à¤¤à¤•à¥à¤·à¥Œà¤°à¥‡ तिथिवरà¥à¤·à¥‡à¤¶à¤¨à¤¿à¤°à¥à¤£à¤¯à¤ƒà¥¥à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥¨

परà¥à¤µà¤µà¤¾à¤¸à¥à¤¤à¥‚पवासादि कृतà¥à¤¸à¥à¤¨à¤‚ चानà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¥‡à¤£ गृहà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡à¥¤à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥©à¤…

yÄtrodvÄhavrataká¹£aure

tithivarṣeśanirṇayaḥ||56|112

parvavÄstÅ«pavÄsÄdi ká¹›tsnaá¹ cÄndreṇa gá¹›hyate|56|113a

 

Meaning:

Times that are fixed through the lunar measure – CÄndra-MÄna which are used for setting out on a religious

pilgrimage (YÄtrÄ), marriage, vratas, religious

tonsure, lords of the tithi, the year, the day of the syzygies, (setting up a

house/home (gåhapraveça) and the observance of religious

fasts.

 

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113b-114

 

गृहà¥à¤¯à¤¤à¥‡ गà¥à¤°à¥à¤®à¤¾à¤¨à¥‡à¤¨ पà¥à¤°à¤­à¤µà¤¾à¤¦à¥à¤¯à¤¬à¥à¤¦à¤²à¤•à¥à¤·à¤£à¤®à¥à¥¥à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥©

ततà¥à¤¤à¤¨à¥à¤®à¤¾à¤¸à¥ˆà¤°à¥à¤¦à¥à¤µà¤¾à¤¦à¤¶à¤­à¤¿à¤¸à¥à¤¤à¤¤à¥à¤¤à¤¦à¤·à¥à¤Ÿà¥Œ भवेतà¥à¤¤à¤¤à¤ƒà¥¤

गà¥à¤°à¥à¤®à¤§à¥à¤¯à¤®à¤šà¤¾à¤°à¥‡à¤£à¤·à¤·à¥à¤Ÿà¥à¤¯à¤¬à¥à¤¦à¤¾à¤ƒ पà¥à¤°à¤­à¤¾à¤µà¤¾à¤¦à¤¯à¤ƒà¥¥à¥«à¥¬à¥¤à¥§à¥§à¥ª

gá¹›hyate

gurumÄnena prabhavÄdyabdalaká¹£aṇam||56|113

tattanmÄsairdvÄdaÅ›abhistattadaṣṭau

bhavettataḥ|

gurumadhyamacÄreṇaá¹£aṣṭyabdÄḥ

prabhÄvÄdayaḥ||56|114

 

Meaning: The years beginning with Prabhava etc., are reckoned

from Jovian measure – Guru-MÄna, which is made up of twelve months of that measure

and is with the mean motion of Jupiter (Guru).

However,

there will always be different opinions amongst the writers of muhurta texts

and it is likely  that those who are bent

on creating controversy, one author would be held above other. The following is

a quote from Naraòa Saàhita.

vaiNhke k…êdeze c yiSmNdeze n Ë;[m!,

itwyae masdGxaOya dGxl¶ain taNyip.80.

vänhike kurüdeçe ca yasmindeçe na düñaëam|

tithayo mäsadagdhäkhyä dagdhalagnäni tänyapi||80||

 

Meaning: Upagraha

doça is to be given up (not permitted) 

in Vanhika and Kuru province. MÄsa (month)

and dagdha tithi (Lunar day) and dagdha lagna is to be given up.

mXydeze ivvJyaRi[ n Ê:ya[itre;u c,

p<Gv<ka[l¶ain maszUNyaí razy>.81.

madhyadeçe vivarjyäëi na duñyäëétareñu ca|

paìgvaìkäëalagnäni mäsaçünyäçca räçayaù||81||

 

In Madhya

deça these are not doças in other places. Pangu, andha, kÄna, lagna

and mÄsa çunya and rasi-.

 

Thus

CaturmÄsa doça is viz a viz MÄsa doça is not

applicable throughout Bharat. The fact of CaturmÄsa at

different regions during different periods also indicates its connection with

the seasons in the concerned areas mentioned.

ìtaeiÖvahàya[Â ý<gizLpklaidkm!,

cr< iSwr< szaôaô< ktRVy< kamuRkaedye.9.

vratodvivähaprayäëaïca hyaìgaçilpakalädikam|

caraà sthiraà saçästrästraà kartavyaà kärmukodaye||9||

 

Meaning: Austerities, marriages, pilgrimages, bodily rituals, sculptures, arts,

changeable and fixed types of work, arms and projectile related matter should

be done when Dhanu lagna is rising.

svRÇ< àwm< l¶< ktuRí<Ôbl< tt>,

kNyaNy #NdaE bilin s<TyNye bilnae ¢ha>.19.

sarvatraà prathamaà lagnaà kartuçcandrabalaà tataù|

kanyänya indau balini santyanye balino grahäù||19||

At all times, strength of lagna is considered first

then the strength of moon. If moon is with strength, barring when in KanyÄ rasi all planets get strength.

 

l¶< svRgu[aepet< l_yte yid ten ih,

dae;aLpTv< gu[aixKy< b÷s<ttim:yte.23.

lagnaà sarvaguëopetaà labhyate yadi tena hi|

doñälpatvaà guëädhikyaà

bahusantatamiñyate||23||

 

Meaning: On getting lagna with

good indications, few blemishes (for a muhurta) remain and the good qualities

overrule.

 

Again, there are some muhurtas that overrule all other

doças. Here again there are muhurtas applicable in only certain geographical

locations where others are auspicious in all countries, and  these are:

 

ctuwRmiÉij‘¶mudy]aRtu sÃmm!,

gaexUilk< tÊÉy< ivvahe puÇpaEÇdm!.144.

caturthamabhijillagnamudayarkñätu saptamam|

godhülikaà tadubhayaà vivähe putrapautradam||144||

 

Meaning: The fourth lagna from sunrise is

Abhijét lagna and the 7th lagna is Godhulika lagna. Both these

lagnas are capable of giving sons and grand sons for marriages conducted on

these lagnas.

àaCyana< c kil<gana< muOy< gaexUilk< Sm & tm!,

AiÉijtTsvRdeze;u muOy< dae;ivnazk«t!.145

präcyänäà ca kaliìgänäà mukhyaà godhülikaà småtam|

abhijitatsarvadeçeñu mukhyaà doñavinäçakåt||145

 

Meaning: Godhulika lagna is the main lagna for those residing in the east and

for those belonging to Kalinga deça (Orissa). Abhijét lagna is the main lagna

for all regions and it destroys all doças.

mXy<idngte ÉanaE muøtaeR=iÉijtaþy>,

nazyTyiolaNdae;aiNpnakI iÇpur< ywa.146.

madhyandinagate bhänau muhürto'bhijitähvayaù|

näçayatyakhiländoñänpinäké tripuraà yathä||146||

 

Meaning: Abhijita muhurta is at the time of midday (when Sun is at its zenith).

It destroys all doças in a muhurta as the holder of PinÄki Bow

(Lord Mahadeva)  destroyed the Tripura

city of Tripuraasura.

mXy<idngte ÉanaE skl< dae;s<cym!,

kraeit dae;miÉijÄUlraizimvanl>.147.

madhyandinagate bhänau sakalaà doñasaïcayam|

karoti doñamabhijittülaräçimivänalaù||147||

 

Meaning:

Sun at its zenith gives rise to abhijét muhurta and it destroys all doças as

heap of cotton is destroyed by fire.

 

hETyekí mhadae;ae gu[l]mpIh s>,

pavne p<cgVy< tu pU[Rk…MÉ< suralym!.148.

haityekaçca mahädoño guëalakñamapéha saù|

pävane païcagavyaà tu

pürëakumbhaà surälayam||148||

 

Meaning : And a mahadosha

destroys lacs of gunÄs as the

full pot of the pious pancagavya  is rendered

afflicted by a drop of liquor.

 

There are many exceptions to the so called absolutely

taboo muhurtas. We should further note that the time and place for

Chandrashekhar ji’s marriage are both omitted in the letter. 

 

Another observation in the letter which in my opinion is

written without application of the mind. There are enough references in ancient

çaçtras to support the use of Savana year as the one for use in calculations of

Vimçottari daças. Both Naraòa and Padma PurÄëas made mention of the 360 savana

days very clearly and I recall a discussion involving myself, Chandrashekhar

and Andrew where the questions orginated from.

pÃ’ pura[

t & tIyae=Xyay.

padma puräëa

tåtéyo'dhyäya||

%TpÚ>

àaeCyteivÖaiÚTyvaepcart>,

injentSymanenayuvR;Rzt<Sm & tm!.3.

utpannaù

procyatevidvännityaevopacärataù|

nijenatasyamänenäayurvarñaçataàsmåtam||3||

Meaning: The

wise one who is born is only secondarily described to be eternal: By his own

measure, his life span is said to be one hundred years.

tTpraOy<praáctdápirkIitRtm!,

kaóap<cdzaOyatainme;an & psÄm.4.

tatparäkhyamparärddhaïcatadarddhamparikértitam|

käñöhäpaïcadaçäkhyätänimeñänåpasattama||4||

 

Meaning: O Best Prince, that is called ParÄ; half of it is said to be

parÄdha. Fifteen nimeñas are said to form one kÄñöhÄ.

kaóaiô<zTklaiÇ<zTklamaEøitRkaeivix>,

tavTs<OyErhaeraÇ<muøÄERmaRnu;< Sm & tm!.5

käñöhästriàçatkalätriàçatkalämauhürtikovidhiù|

tävatsaìkhyairahorätrammuhürttairmänuñaà småtam||5

Meaning:

Thirty kalÄs make one kÄñöhÄ

(nimiña), the period called muhürta. Muhürta equaling that number (which is 30)

form the human day and night (taken together).

AhaeraÇai[tav<itmas>

p]ÖyaTmk>,

tE:;fœ iÉryn<v;Rmynedi][aeÄre.6.

ahoräträëitävantimäsaù pakñadvayätmakaù|

taiññaò bhirayanaàvarñamayanedakñiëottare||6||

Meaning: As

many days and nights (which are 30) form a month having two fortnights. With

six of them an ayana is formed and a year has dakñiëa and üttara (i.e., a year

has two such ayanas).

Ayn<di][<raiÇdeRvanamuÄr<idnm!,

idVyEvR;RshôEStuk«tÇetaids<i}tm!.7.

ayanandakñiëaàrätrirdevänämuttarandinam|

divyairvarñasahastraistukåtatretädisaïjïitam||7||

 

 

Meaning: DakñiëÄyana is the

night of the Devas and the UttarÄyana is their day.

Without prejudice, I have noted that comments attributed

to Chandrashekharji do not appear to be his comments as many of us know him

well including his way of presentation which we have all witnessed on the Vedic

Astrology lists and the one I have personally experienced in the Puri

Conference.

 

It may perhaps be in order to ask others who were present

at his Mumbai lecture as to the reason Chandrashekharji felt frustrated with

the audience which I can see can only be attributed to their own lack of

understanding.

 

Unfortunately Chandrashekharji is currently not able to

respond to this sort of personal attack but I am certain he would have given an

apt reply with ample quotes from scriptures and ancient Jyotish texts.

 

Love,

 

 

Swee

 

 

 

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Dear Swee

I was not there in the room at the time the argument started and can only say what others told me...That the use of 360 days per year for vimsottari dasa was objected to by V V Diwekar ji initially and then other issues came into question. According to this theory, vimsottari dasa works out to 108 solar years. I wonder if this is what Parasara meant when he said 'vimsottari'. How many solar years do you se for vimsottari dasa?

 

Om muhurta, Diwekarji has questioned the use of Dasami as an auspicious marriage muhurta for which he has quoted the scriptures and proved. I was unable to find the counter argument from you. Can you show me where you have answered this? The argument that the marriage lasted is more due to the 7th house Jupiter in the chart of the lady and not due to the faulty muhurta choise has also not been answered.

 

Please keep this at a subject discussion only as both the people concerned are learned in the sastra and we should not be dishonoring either in out bias or statements. and I have found that the replies sent to the lists in the past were more emotional outbursts than any meaningful discussion. Please quote the portion of Divekar ji's letter which you find wrong as far as the shastra is concerned.

 

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee ChanSunday, August 28, 2005 5:43 AMsohamsa ; varahamihira Subject: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

Namaste

 

 

I have just received the July - September 2005 Jyotish Digest and refer to the following points written by Mr. V.V. Divekar in the “Letters†section on page 7. The gentleman has written that birth details were not furnished and requests him to refer to the Jan-Mar 2005 issue of JD on page 50 where all names, including birth data were provided. On Muhurtas and their inviolate nature, Mr. V.V. Divekar’s protraction on Chandrashekhar Sharma’s disdain on ParaçÄra’s teachings were unnecessary.

It is my believe that Chandrashekharji would ever claim to have derived a “new system†of looking at Bhava bala but more than likely, he strictly adheres on the method of ancients than on Çripati or Keçava systems, (which came into practice at a much later date).

Without prejudice, I reiterate that anyone who has been a member on the Vedic Astrology list is very aware of the fact that Chandrashekharji is a purist in maintaining Jyotiña in its original form.

 

Muhurta Rationale:

 

On the purported remarks of Chandrashekharji on Muhurtas that are not being drawn up for taking Pravrajya in Çankara Açram with birth details of Çankaracaryas, these are two separate matters. Going over the same article, you will note the following rationale:

a) One relates to an action or a ceremony, which is in the domain of Muhurta

b) The second is with regards to the birth of a living being (person).

 

So what is muhurta all about? Is every muhurta (which is recommended by the sages) to be excluded in Sanskaras (religious rites and other ceremonies) inviolate as is being made out? Having read many scriptures and astrological texts, this appears to be rather unlikely.

Let us begin with marriage Muhurtas, as seems to be the controversy.

Even a beginner of astrology has heard about Simhastha Guru being one of the excluded times for the performance of marriage and other religious ceremonies. So is this entire year or so of the time of Guru’s residence in Simha rasi really to be excluded? Is this the only time related to Guru that is excluded for these ceremonies?

Let us see what is said about the ceremonies for which Simhastha Guru is to be considered as a muhurta to avoid:

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

Namaste

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on

the matter.

Skimming through Caraka

samhita (for gemstones healing) the trio with Caraka saàhitÄ contains 120

chapters, so the simple aphorism on this is that,  each chapter equates to 1 year for the 120-year

life span for us mortals JJJJ

 

On a serious note and for academic

purposes, there are 9 measures of time according to NP Ch56.109

These are: brahmA,

deva, manu, pitrya, saura, sAvana, cAndra, aarkSa and guru.

 

With reference to Narada SaàhitÄ

chapter 56.113 evinces that a year is made up of 12 months

Chapter 54.65 The

number of Eastward revolutions in a kaliyuga= 432,000

In Chapter 54.72, it states that the

number of solar months in (Kali) yuga

= 5,184,000

 

Thus: 5,184,000/120 = 43,200

            viz a viz

        =43,200/360 (days)

                                    =

120 years

 

Chapter 56.111-114 – saura

mAna is used for reckoning of the motion of planets.

sAvana mAna – pregnancy (Jataka)

clouds and rains – nAkSatra mAna

religious fasts, tonsures, marriage travel etc – cAndra mAna

A year –

a year by each measure is reckoned through the mean motion of Jupiter.

 

Vivaha Muhurta

The sole purpose of choosing a good

muhurta is to ensure the safety and longevity (life span) of a couple,

especially for the man after mutual compatibilities of the couple’s “horror-scopeâ€

J for the

purpose of procreation so that the lineage is continued through the patrilineal consideration.

 

In a Vivaha

muhurta, NP chapter 56 shloka 429-430 ½  says that tithi

forms 1 fold of the 5 fold considerations which are:

Tithi, vAra, nakSatra, yoga, karana as well as potencies of the Sun + Jupiter

(propitiate them if weak in the male or female Jataka),

Moon and Venus.

 

Assuming cAndra

mAna  which is 30 days x 12 months = 360

days

 

Take the 1st tithi as shukla pratipat ref.NP Chapter 54.126

-127 and planets etc in combustion are also to be considered including avastha of Venus and Jupiter.

 

NP Chapter 56 shlokas

423 - 426

grastAste tridinaM pUrvaM pashcAdgrastodaye 'thavA|

saMdhyAyAM

tridinaM tadvannishIthe sapta eva ca||56.424||

 

Meaning: Avoid the three days after

their setting (combustion, infancy, old age) and three

days before their rise (again). As far as their dusks are concerned, three day

before setting and seven days before their rise should be avoided.

 

mAsAnte pa~nca divasAMstyajedriktAM

tathASTamIm|

vyatIpAtaM vaidhR^itiM ca saMpUrNaM parighArddhakam||56.425||

 

Meaning:

Five days towards the close of the (lunar) month i.e., Krishna

Ekadashi – Amavasya should

be avoided; also the 8th (Shukla Astami), and the riktA days (which

are Shukla Caturthi, Shukla NavamI, and Shukla Caturdashi). VyatIpAta and VaidhR^iti yoga

should be avoided in their entirety and half of parigha.

 

pauSNabhatryuttarAmaitramaru~ncandrArkapitryabhaiH|

samUlabhairaviddhaistaiH strIkaragraha iSyate||56.426||

 

Meaning: The following nakSatras are recommended of Vivaha

muhurta:

revatI, uttaraphalgunI, uttarASAdha, uttarabhAdrapada, AnurAdhA, svAtI, mR^igashIrSa, hasta, maghA and mUla when they are not in vedha (mutual affliction).

 

Abhijit and GodhUlikA Muhurta

 

caturthamabhijillagnamudayarkAS~nca saptamam|

godhUlikaM tadubhayaM vivAhe putrapautradam||56.512||

prAcyA na

ca kaliNgAnAM mukhyaM godhUlikaM smR^itam|

abhijitsarvadesheSu mukhyo doSavinAshakR^it||56.513||

 

Meaning: The fourth lagna from the

lagna at sunrise is called Abhijit and the seventh

lagna is called Godhulika. Both these are auspicious for

marriage and will bless them with sons and grandsons. Abhijit

is important for the people in the Eastern region (Bengal etc.,) and the people of Kalinga (Orissa),

Godhulika is important.

 

To conclude, if a muhurta is SOLELY

conducive to a long lasting and happy marriage, we are wrongly portraying to

the students that the mere choice (in a muhurta) over rides one’s natal “horror-scopeâ€.

 

In Chandrashekharji’s

chart, Dhanus rises. Jupiter the Lagnesha

is in upachaya conjunct Moon. Gurus the 7th house and

that vargaottama Saturn is in digbala

and exchanges place with the 7th Lord, which is also in Vargottama. Guru not only aspects Saturn and Mars but also

their mUltrikona house, viz

a viz, those planets also aspect Guru's mUltrikona House.

 

However, the most important point here is

the UL, which is Venus in its own sign. 2nd from UL is also aspected

by a powerful Jupiter.

 

Love,

Swee

p/s I am away again

this from this evening.

 

 

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om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Swee

The Rishi's say so. Honestly even I thought that there should be 30 types of years and not 5 but then the Rishi's say it is only five, so I take it at that.

This is based on the tithi at sunrise (see the Purana uses the word Prabhasa) on the day of the Mesha sankranti

samvatsara, TS1-S6

parivatsara, TS7-S12

idavatsara, TS13 - K3

anuvatsara TK4-K9

vatsara TK10 - Amavasya

That is the method of reckoning the samvatsara

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee ChanWednesday, September 07, 2005 1:43 PMsohamsa ; vedic astrology Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

 

Namaste

 

I have the books here with me…….so why are there only 5 types of (solar) years and not 12?

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay RathWednesday, September 07, 2005 6:46 PMsohamsa ; vedic astrology Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Swee

I will use only one stanza of the Bhagavatam to show how wrong translations can affect the thinking and reading of people and astrologers like your goodself can be totaly off the point. This is an extract of what you sent as replies to my questions and points raised.

Swee wrote :

Maitreya in Bhagavata PurÄëa Skaëòha III on the concept of Time Chapter 11: Text 14, 18, 19 and 20

 

saMvatsaraH parivatsara iDA-vatsara eva ca|anuvatsaro vatsarash ca viduraivaM prabhASyate||11.14

 

Meaning: The period of (the solar/tropical year) is called Saàvatsara. [for the time that it takes the sun, thus speeding slow, fast or moderate, to move entirely through the spheres above and below, is indeed with its passage, to the descriptions of the scholars, spoken of a samvatsara ref SB Canto 5 Ch 22 text 7)

 

You see this sloka clearly speaks of the five types of solar years that are to be followed and this has nothing to do with the *speed of the sun* nor with any *special sphere*. The general term for the solar year is samvatsara and the five types of years based on the tithi at sankranti is samvatsara, parivatsara, idavatsara, anuvatsara and vatsara. This is precisely what the sloka states. The word vidura refers to the knowledge about these five types of solar years that are used in Jyotish which are reckoned on the basis of tithi on mesha sankranti or what we call in Orissa - panaa sankranti.

 

Where did you get this translation? Would you like to make any comments on the translations that you quote in your mail? Did you actually read them?

 

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

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15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

 

Replies directly below the other 2 (mails).

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay RathFriday, September 02, 2005 9:45 AMvarahamihira ; SohamsaRE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

 

om bhurbhuva svaħ břhaspataye namaħ

Dear Swee

1.What is the year for Manu? We are Manusya

2. Saura masa is different from savana maasa - one is transit of sun through a sign and the other is the simple count of 30 days

3. You seem to be supporting the point of Dwivekar ji that the natal chart of Chandrasekhar ji is the reason for the long marriage and not the bad muhurta chosen. Is this correct or am I getting this wrong?

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

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Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay

ji,

Namaste

 

The cycle of

the 5 which makes up a Yuga are the 5 things to be considered. This Yuga is

different from the (maha Yugas we have been discussing).

 

Prabhasa is

used to describe the Sun’s entry into its exaltation sign. This has nothing to

do with Samvatsara.

Note that

Prabhava is used to describe the majestic dignity of the year for Jupiter from

Karttika. The cycles here are most likely the following:

The 60 year

cycle of Jupiter, the names of the years are given according to the names of

the 12 lunar months (with their special connotations) reckoned from Karttika.

So from Karttika, Margashirsa, Pausa and Magha, each of these have 2

nakshatras. The 5th month, Phalguna will have 3 nakshatras and the

next 5 months will have 2 nakshatras each while the 11th and 12th

month will have 3 nakshatras each, thus completing the 27 nakshatras.

 

In Srimad

Bhagvatam Ch 21 on The Movements of the Sun, the entire kAla cakra (wheel of

time) is established on the wheel of Aditya Deva’s chariot and this wheel is

known as Samvatsara. (Text 13).

 

Sunrise to sunrise is bhumi-sAvana-vAsara (a terrestrial civil day).

(Narada Purana II.54.70)

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay Rath

Thursday, September 08, 2005

5:02 PM

sohamsa

RE: Muhurata

Rationale

 

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Swee

The Rishi's say so. Honestly even I

thought that there should be 30 types of years and not 5 but then the Rishi's

say it is only five, so I take it at that.

This is based on the tithi at sunrise

(see the Purana uses the word Prabhasa) on the day of the Mesha sankranti

samvatsara,

TS1-S6

parivatsara,

TS7-S12

idavatsara,

TS13 - K3

anuvatsara

TK4-K9

vatsara

TK10 - Amavasya

That is the method of reckoning the

samvatsara

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

* * *

Sri Jagannath Center®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

* * *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan

Wednesday, September 07,

2005 1:43 PM

sohamsa ;

vedic astrology

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay

ji,

 

Namaste

 

I have the

books here with me…….so why are there only 5 types of (solar) years and not 12?

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay Rath

Wednesday, September 07,

2005 6:46 PM

sohamsa ;

vedic astrology

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [vedic astrology]

RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Swee

I will use only one stanza of the

Bhagavatam to show how wrong translations can affect the thinking and reading

of people and astrologers like your goodself can be totaly off the point. This

is an extract of what you sent as replies to my questions and points raised.

Swee wrote :

Maitreya

in Bhagavata PurÄëa Skaëòha III on the concept of Time Chapter 11: Text 14, 18, 19 and 20

 

saMvatsaraH

parivatsara iDA-vatsara eva ca|

anuvatsaro

vatsarash ca viduraivaM prabhASyate||11.14

 

Meaning: The period of

(the solar/tropical year) is called Saàvatsara. [for the

time that it takes the sun, thus speeding slow, fast or moderate, to move entirely

through the spheres above and below, is indeed with its passage, to the

descriptions of the scholars, spoken of a samvatsara ref SB Canto 5 Ch 22 text

7)

 

You see this sloka clearly speaks of

the five types of solar years that are to be followed and this has nothing to

do with the *speed of the sun* nor with any *special sphere*. The general term

for the solar year is samvatsara and the five types of years based on the tithi

at sankranti is samvatsara, parivatsara, idavatsara, anuvatsara and vatsara.

This is precisely what the sloka states. The word vidura refers to the

knowledge about these five types of solar years that are used in Jyotish which

are reckoned on the basis of tithi on mesha sankranti or what we call in Orissa

- panaa sankranti.

 

Where did you get this translation?

Would you like to make any comments on the translations that you quote in your

mail? Did you actually read them?

 

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

* * *

Sri Jagannath Center®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

* * *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan

Wednesday, September 07,

2005 7:01 AM

sohamsa ;

varahamihira ; vedic astrology

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

 

Replies directly below the other 2

(mails).

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay Rath

Friday, September 02, 2005

9:45 AM

varahamihira ;

Sohamsa

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

 

om

bhurbhuva svaħ břhaspataye namaħ

Dear Swee

1.What is the year for Manu? We are

Manusya

2. Saura masa is different from savana

maasa - one is transit of sun through a sign and the other is the simple count

of 30 days

3. You seem to be supporting the point

of Dwivekar ji that the natal chart of Chandrasekhar ji is the reason for

the long marriage and not the bad muhurta chosen. Is this correct or am I

getting this wrong?

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

* * *

Sri Jagannath Center®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com,

+91-11-25717162

* * *

 

 

 

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Resending……….

apologies if you have received this, but I have not see n it in my inbox.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

Swee Chan [swee]

 

Friday, September 09, 2005

11:13 AM

'sohamsa '

Re: Muhurata

Rationale

 

 

Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay

ji,

Namaste

 

The cycle of

the 5 which makes up a Yuga are the 5 things to be considered. This Yuga is

different from the (maha Yugas we have been discussing).

 

Prabhasa is used

to describe the Sun’s entry into its exaltation sign. This has nothing to do

with Samvatsara.

Note that

Prabhava is used to describe the majestic dignity of the year for Jupiter from

Karttika. The cycles here are most likely the following:

The 60 year

cycle of Jupiter, the names of the years are given according to the names of

the 12 lunar months (with their special connotations) reckoned from Karttika.

So from Karttika, Margashirsa, Pausa and Magha, each of these have 2

nakshatras. The 5th month, Phalguna will have 3 nakshatras and the

next 5 months will have 2 nakshatras each while the 11th and 12th

month will have 3 nakshatras each, thus completing the 27 nakshatras.

 

In Srimad

Bhagvatam Ch 21 on The Movements of the Sun, the entire kAla cakra (wheel of

time) is established on the wheel of Aditya Deva’s chariot and this wheel is

known as Samvatsara. (Text 13).

 

Sunrise to sunrise is bhumi-sAvana-vAsara (a terrestrial civil day).

(Narada Purana II.54.70)

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay Rath

Thursday, September 08, 2005

5:02 PM

sohamsa

RE: Muhurata

Rationale

 

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Swee

The Rishi's say so. Honestly even I

thought that there should be 30 types of years and not 5 but then the Rishi's

say it is only five, so I take it at that.

This is based on the tithi at sunrise

(see the Purana uses the word Prabhasa) on the day of the Mesha sankranti

samvatsara,

TS1-S6

parivatsara,

TS7-S12

idavatsara,

TS13 - K3

anuvatsara

TK4-K9

vatsara

TK10 - Amavasya

That is the method of reckoning the

samvatsara

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

* * *

Sri Jagannath Center®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

* * *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan

Wednesday, September 07,

2005 1:43 PM

sohamsa ;

vedic astrology

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

Jaya

Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay

ji,

 

Namaste

 

I have the

books here with me…….so why are there only 5 types of (solar) years and not 12?

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay Rath

Wednesday, September 07,

2005 6:46 PM

sohamsa ;

vedic astrology

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate vasudevaya

Dear Swee

I will use only one stanza of the

Bhagavatam to show how wrong translations can affect the thinking and reading

of people and astrologers like your goodself can be totaly off the point. This

is an extract of what you sent as replies to my questions and points raised.

Swee wrote :

Maitreya

in Bhagavata PurÄëa Skaëòha III on the concept of Time Chapter 11: Text 14, 18, 19 and 20

 

saMvatsaraH

parivatsara iDA-vatsara eva ca|

anuvatsaro

vatsarash ca viduraivaM prabhASyate||11.14

 

Meaning: The period of

(the solar/tropical year) is called Saàvatsara. [for the

time that it takes the sun, thus speeding slow, fast or moderate, to move

entirely through the spheres above and below, is indeed with its passage, to

the descriptions of the scholars, spoken of a samvatsara ref SB Canto 5 Ch 22

text 7)

 

You see this sloka clearly speaks of

the five types of solar years that are to be followed and this has nothing to

do with the *speed of the sun* nor with any *special sphere*. The general term

for the solar year is samvatsara and the five types of years based on the tithi

at sankranti is samvatsara, parivatsara, idavatsara, anuvatsara and vatsara.

This is precisely what the sloka states. The word vidura refers to the

knowledge about these five types of solar years that are used in Jyotish which

are reckoned on the basis of tithi on mesha sankranti or what we call in Orissa

- panaa sankranti.

 

Where did you get this translation?

Would you like to make any comments on the translations that you quote in your

mail? Did you actually read them?

 

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

* * *

Sri Jagannath Center®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162

* * *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Swee Chan

Wednesday, September 07,

2005 7:01 AM

sohamsa ;

varahamihira ; vedic astrology

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

 

Replies directly below the other 2

(mails).

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Guru Sanjay Rath

Friday, September 02, 2005

9:45 AM

varahamihira ;

Sohamsa

RE: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[vedic astrology] RE: Muhurata Rationale

 

 

 

om

bhurbhuva svaħ břhaspataye namaħ

Dear Swee

1.What is the year for Manu? We are

Manusya

2. Saura masa is different from savana

maasa - one is transit of sun through a sign and the other is the simple count

of 30 days

3. You seem to be supporting the point

of Dwivekar ji that the natal chart of Chandrasekhar ji is the reason for

the long marriage and not the bad muhurta chosen. Is this correct or am I

getting this wrong?

With best wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay Rath

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