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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay, Namaste

 

I came across your Tripod Rule which is supported by Parashara. So, with the discussion around Jupiter I would like establish if there is any merit in reckoning effects from Jupiter - are there any scriptures or texts that refer to this.

 

Now according to the scriptures(will have to find the relevant verses), we understand that we have a physical body and a non-physical body. The non-physical body is made up of the soul and the subtle energies encompassing the Mind, Intelligence and False Ego.

 

When dilineating a chart then we comonly look at the effects of the planets as reckoned from Lagna (Body), Sun (soul), Moon (Mind), AL (False Ego). Intelligence is represented by Jupiter.

 

One of the purposes of Jyotish is to understand our purpose in Life and we know that when one leaves one's body, the soul together with the subtle energies imbedded in it, tranmigrates to the new being. Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

 

Having said this, is there any merit in reckoning the effects of planets from Jupiter representing intelligence to fully understand one's soul's purpose. Any chance of having a 'Quad" rule

 

I have read in the forum somewhere that Ju 5th from Mo is very benefic. Would Mo being 9th from Jup not be a better explanation from this.

 

All the Best

 

Bipin

 

 

 

 

 

 

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|| Jaya Jagannatha ||

Dear Bipin,

 

> Now according to the scriptures(will have to find the relevant

verses), we understand that we have a physical body and a non-physical

body. The non-physical body is made up of the soul and the subtle

energies encompassing the Mind, Intelligence and False Ego.

 

 

Sanjay P: Actually the body is divided into 5 Layers, Called Pancha

Kosha (Kosha=Containers). Do a small search in the web and you can get

the list of all the Pancha Kosha.

 

Sanskrit Translation

Anna-maya Kosha Food-full Gross Physical Body

Prana-maya Kosha Energy-full Subtle Body

Mana-maya Kosha Instinctive-mind-full Perceptual Body

Vigyana-maya Kosha Understanding-full Consciousness Body

Ananda-maya Kosha Bliss-full Transcendental Body

 

This is further simplified into 3 Koshas.

 

I think for Exact understanding we should use 5 References in Chart.

Which will give Direct Correlation to Panchanga, And show how

Time(Kaala) really acts on individuals.

 

Each Kosha acts on different Time levels(Zones or Time Compression).

Soul takes longest time (when seen from material world) and Physical

Body made of food (Anna Maaya) takes the shortest time for changes.

This is represented in 3 speed motions, Sun (1Yr/cyc), Moon(27.3d/cyc)

and Lagna(24Hr/Cyc).

 

Actually We should be looking for 5 References, I hope Guru Sanjayji

will some more clues.

 

To Understand further the Speed, Division of space is done and we do

have 5 Levels of Divisionals.

 

D1 to D12 AnnaMaaya

D12 to D24 PraanaMaaya

D24 to D36 ManoMaaya

D36 to D48 VignyaanaMaaya

D48 to D60 AnandaMaaya

 

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

> When dilineating a chart then we comonly look at the effects of the

planets as reckoned from Lagna (Body), Sun (soul), Moon (Mind), AL

(False Ego). Intelligence is represented by Jupiter.

>

> One of the purposes of Jyotish is to understand our purpose in Life

and we know that when one leaves one's body, the soul together with

the subtle energies imbedded in it, tranmigrates to the new being.

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.

>

> Having said this, is there any merit in reckoning the effects of

planets from Jupiter representing intelligence to fully understand

one's soul's purpose. Any chance of having a 'Quad " rule

>

> I have read in the forum somewhere that Ju 5th from Mo is very

benefic. Would Mo being 9th from Jup not be a better explanation from

this.

>

> All the Best

>

> Bipin

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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay P, Namaste

 

Thanks for adding another perspective to all of this. I guess Sanjay R will eloquently present some of his wisdom on this

 

Regards

 

Bipin

 

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sanjayprabhakaran

sohamsa

Monday, August 22, 2005 5:00 PM

Re: Rath's Tripod Rule

|| Jaya Jagannatha ||Dear Bipin,> Now according to the scriptures(will have to find the relevantverses), we understand that we have a physical body and a non-physicalbody. The non-physical body is made up of the soul and the subtleenergies encompassing the Mind, Intelligence and False Ego.Sanjay P: Actually the body is divided into 5 Layers, Called PanchaKosha (Kosha=Containers). Do a small search in the web and you can getthe list of all the Pancha Kosha. Sanskrit Translation Anna-maya Kosha Food-full Gross Physical BodyPrana-maya Kosha Energy-full Subtle BodyMana-maya Kosha Instinctive-mind-full Perceptual BodyVigyana-maya Kosha Understanding-full Consciousness BodyAnanda-maya Kosha Bliss-full Transcendental BodyThis is further simplified into 3 Koshas.I think for Exact understanding we should use 5 References in Chart.Which will give Direct Correlation to Panchanga, And show howTime(Kaala) really acts on individuals.Each Kosha acts on different Time levels(Zones or Time Compression).Soul takes longest time (when seen from material world) and PhysicalBody made of food (Anna Maaya) takes the shortest time for changes. This is represented in 3 speed motions, Sun (1Yr/cyc), Moon(27.3d/cyc)and Lagna(24Hr/Cyc).Actually We should be looking for 5 References, I hope Guru Sanjayjiwill some more clues.To Understand further the Speed, Division of space is done and we dohave 5 Levels of Divisionals.D1 to D12 AnnaMaayaD12 to D24 PraanaMaayaD24 to D36 ManoMaayaD36 to D48 VignyaanaMaayaD48 to D60 AnandaMaayaWarm RegardsSanjay P> When dilineating a chart then we comonly look at the effects of theplanets as reckoned from Lagna (Body), Sun (soul), Moon (Mind), AL(False Ego). Intelligence is represented by Jupiter.> > One of the purposes of Jyotish is to understand our purpose in Lifeand we know that when one leaves one's body, the soul together withthe subtle energies imbedded in it, tranmigrates to the new being. Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.> > Having said this, is there any merit in reckoning the effects ofplanets from Jupiter representing intelligence to fully understandone's soul's purpose. Any chance of having a 'Quad" rule> > I have read in the forum somewhere that Ju 5th from Mo is verybenefic. Would Mo being 9th from Jup not be a better explanation fromthis.> > All the Best> > Bipin> > > > > > > *******************************************************************> > The e-mail and attachments are confidential and intended only forselected recipients. If you have received it in error, you may not inany way disclose or rely on the contents. You may not keep, copy ordistribute the e-mail. Should you receive it, immediately notify thesender of the error and delete the e-mail.Also note that this form ofcommunication is not secure, it can be intercepted, and may notnecessarily be free of errors and viruses in spite of reasonableefforts to secure this medium.> > *******************************************************************

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... hamsasso.aham ..

 

I hope you don’t mind a small

vedantic digression.

 

Most translations of the koshas give us

the mental picture of a set of layered physical sheaths which are ‘full

of’ xyz. However, as I have been taught, ‘maya’ is not being

interpreted correctly. Too much emphasis is being given to ‘kosha’

and not enough to ‘maya’. annamaya-kosha does not mean a ‘container

which is full of food’. It means ‘of the very nature (essence) of

food, a sheath’.

 

Generally, we are told that the sheaths

envelop one another. i.e. the anandamaya-kosha is “inside” the

vigyanamaya-kosha and so on. Every work tells us that ‘the subtle body

consists of the pranamaya, manomaya and vijyanamaya kosha’. However, if

each kosha were truly contained in another, the standard works would simply say

that ‘the subtle body consists of the pranamaya kosha’ and the rest

would be obvious. But, I have not come across this statement.

 

IMO, the concept of layered containers is

easy for beginners, but, ultimately incorrect.

 

Guru (akasha) is not contained by Saturn

(vayu)…..in fact, as akasha is all enveloping, in a sense it is the

opposite. So also, a ‘subtle kosha’ is not contained by a ‘gross

one’….in a sense, it is actually the opposite.

 

ajit

 

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of sanjayprabhakaran

Monday, August 22, 2005 8:01

AM

sohamsa

Re: Rath's

Tripod Rule

 

 

|| Jaya Jagannatha ||

Dear Bipin,

 

> Now

according to the scriptures(will have to find the relevant

verses), we

understand that we have a physical body and a non-physical

body.

The non-physical body is made up of the soul and the subtle

energies

encompassing the Mind, Intelligence and False Ego.

 

 

Sanjay P:

Actually the body is divided into 5 Layers, Called Pancha

Kosha (Kosha=Containers).

Do a small search in the web and you can get

the list of

all the Pancha Kosha.

 

Sanskrit

Translation

Anna-maya

Kosha Food-full

Gross Physical Body

Prana-maya

Kosha Energy-full

Subtle Body

Mana-maya

Kosha Instinctive-mind-full

Perceptual Body

Vigyana-maya

Kosha

Understanding-full Consciousness Body

Ananda-maya

Kosha Bliss-full

Transcendental Body

 

This is

further simplified into 3 Koshas.

 

I think for

Exact understanding we should use 5 References in Chart.

Which will

give Direct Correlation to Panchanga, And show how

Time(Kaala)

really acts on individuals.

 

Each Kosha

acts on different Time levels(Zones or Time Compression).

Soul takes

longest time (when seen from material world) and Physical

Body made of

food (Anna Maaya) takes the shortest time for changes.

This is

represented in 3 speed motions, Sun (1Yr/cyc), Moon(27.3d/cyc)

and

Lagna(24Hr/Cyc).

 

Actually We

should be looking for 5 References, I hope Guru Sanjayji

will some

more clues.

 

To

Understand further the Speed, Division of space is done and we do

have 5

Levels of Divisionals.

 

D1 to

D12 AnnaMaaya

D12 to D24

PraanaMaaya

D24 to D36

ManoMaaya

D36 to D48

VignyaanaMaaya

D48 to D60

AnandaMaaya

 

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

> When dilineating

a chart then we comonly look at the effects of the

planets as

reckoned from Lagna (Body), Sun (soul), Moon (Mind), AL

(False

Ego). Intelligence is represented by Jupiter.

>

> One of

the purposes of Jyotish is to understand our purpose in Life

and we know

that when one leaves one's body, the soul together with

the subtle

energies imbedded in it, tranmigrates to the new being.

Please

correct me if my understanding is wrong.

>

> Having

said this, is there any merit in reckoning the effects of

planets from

Jupiter representing intelligence to fully understand

one's soul's

purpose. Any chance of having a 'Quad " rule

>

> I have

read in the forum somewhere that Ju 5th from Mo is very

benefic.

Would Mo being 9th from Jup not be a better explanation from

this.

>

> All the

Best

>

> Bipin

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Respected friends,

 

I thought of sharing what i have learnt on the same subject from my guru.

 

There are five KOSAS - sheaths i.e.levels of function for the mind according to the domain of its activities.

 

1)Annamaya kosha - when the mind is engaged in the feeling and fulfilment of bodily needs including food etc

 

2)Manomaya kosha - when the mind is engaged in reflecting its habits/emotions

 

3)Pranamaya kosha -when the mind realises its base (origin), its existence, its function etc.

 

4)Vigyana maya kosha - when the mind realises the laws of nature including universal secrets

 

5)Anandamaya kosha - when the mind realises the truth (self realised state) & merges with it.

 

Above are the levels of consciousess and if our knowledge is operating in the first two levels i.e. Annamaya and manomaya kosha, it is said that soul is in "forgetfull state" or self-forgotton state (fully engaged in sensual pleasures i guess).

By practice of Yoga, one can progress from the lower levels to attain perfection/self-realisation which is the ultimate stage of ecstasy.

Apologise if the above is of irrelevent to the topic of interest.

thanks and regards

 

Muthu

 

 

Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan wrote:

 

 

 

... hamsasso.aham ..

 

I hope you don’t mind a small vedantic digression.

 

Most translations of the koshas give us the mental picture of a set of layered physical sheaths which are ‘full of’ xyz. However, as I have been taught, ‘maya’ is not being interpreted correctly. Too much emphasis is being given to ‘kosha’ and not enough to ‘maya’. annamaya-kosha does not mean a ‘container which is full of food’. It means ‘of the very nature (essence) of food, a sheath’.

 

Generally, we are told that the sheaths envelop one another. i.e. the anandamaya-kosha is “inside” the vigyanamaya-kosha and so on. Every work tells us that ‘the subtle body consists of the pranamaya, manomaya and vijyanamaya kosha’. However, if each kosha were truly contained in another, the standard works would simply say that ‘the subtle body consists of the pranamaya kosha’ and the rest would be obvious. But, I have not come across this statement.

 

IMO, the concept of layered containers is easy for beginners, but, ultimately incorrect.

 

Guru (akasha) is not contained by Saturn (vayu)…..in fact, as akasha is all enveloping, in a sense it is the opposite. So also, a ‘subtle kosha’ is not contained by a ‘gross one’….in a sense, it is actually the opposite.

 

ajit

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of sanjayprabhakaranMonday, August 22, 2005 8:01 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Rath's Tripod Rule

 

|| Jaya Jagannatha ||Dear Bipin,> Now according to the scriptures(will have to find the relevantverses), we understand that we have a physical body and a non-physicalbody. The non-physical body is made up of the soul and the subtleenergies encompassing the Mind, Intelligence and False Ego.Sanjay P: Actually the body is divided into 5 Layers, Called

PanchaKosha (Kosha=Containers). Do a small search in the web and you can getthe list of all the Pancha Kosha. Sanskrit Translation Anna-maya Kosha Food-full Gross Physical BodyPrana-maya Kosha Energy-full Subtle BodyMana-maya Kosha

Instinctive-mind-full Perceptual BodyVigyana-maya Kosha Understanding-full Consciousness BodyAnanda-maya Kosha Bliss-full Transcendental BodyThis is further simplified into 3 Koshas.I think for Exact understanding we should use 5 References in Chart.Which will give Direct Correlation to Panchanga, And show howTime(Kaala) really acts on individuals.Each Kosha acts on different Time levels(Zones or Time Compression).Soul takes longest time (when seen from material world) and PhysicalBody made of food (Anna Maaya) takes the shortest time for changes. This is represented in 3 speed motions, Sun (1Yr/cyc), Moon(27.3d/cyc)and Lagna(24Hr/Cyc).Actually We should be looking for 5 References, I hope Guru Sanjayjiwill some more clues.To Understand further the Speed, Division of space is done and we dohave 5 Levels of Divisionals.D1 to D12 AnnaMaayaD12 to D24 PraanaMaayaD24 to D36 ManoMaayaD36 to D48 VignyaanaMaayaD48 to D60 AnandaMaayaWarm RegardsSanjay P> When dilineating a chart then we comonly look at the effects of theplanets as reckoned from Lagna (Body), Sun (soul), Moon (Mind), AL(False Ego). Intelligence is represented by Jupiter.> > One of the purposes of Jyotish is to understand our purpose in

Lifeand we know that when one leaves one's body, the soul together withthe subtle energies imbedded in it, tranmigrates to the new being. Please correct me if my understanding is wrong.> > Having said this, is there any merit in reckoning the effects ofplanets from Jupiter representing intelligence to fully understandone's soul's purpose. Any chance of having

a 'Quad" rule> > I have read in the forum somewhere that Ju 5th from Mo is verybenefic. Would Mo being 9th from Jup not be a better explanation fromthis.> > All the Best> > Bipin

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