Lesson 8A Vimsotari Qst. 2,3,4 & 5

July 31, 2000

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

Namaste Gurudeva,

Q2: What is the reason for calculating these three types of Vimsottari Dasa

based on the longitude of the Moon instead of Lagna?

Moon is the Overlord of all constellations, so the longitude for these

Nakshatras, it is considered from the Moon.

Q3: Determine the period of death of at least two persons related to you (in

any manner) using divisional charts.

Here: I considering my Normal Vimsottari dasa calculated based on Moon

Naksatra (Because I am not very sure about my Tara dasa calculation).

My Father: In D-12, lagna is in Sg. 9th from lagna falls in Le. Considering

Le as my father's lagna. 2nd from Le is Vi occupied by its lord Mercury and

7th from Le is Aq. occupied by Jupiter the 5th and 8th lord.

So, his death can be during Mercury dasa - Jupiter antardasa. But, that is

coming at his 100th year. In between, Saturn dasa Mercury antardasa can be

the period of his death. But, Saturn is well placed in 5th from Lagna and

9th from the Father's lagna i.e. Le. Similarly, Mercury is the Chara

PitriKaraka and placed in its house and in its own nakshatra. So, I am

confused here.

My wife: In Navamsa, the seventh house in Sc, 2nd from this is Sg. and 7th

is Ta. Ta lord Venus is in 6th house from Lagnamsa and 12th from Sc. And

Venus is afflicted by Rahu. So, Venus can cause death. But, Venus is the

Chara Darakaraka and Naisargika Kalathrakaraka.

The Second Lord from the 7th house, is Jupiter is placed in the 7th house

with MaranaKaraka Saturn. Saturn aspects the 7th from 7th i.e Lagna. So,

Death can be in Saturn Dasa Jupiter Antardasa.

I considered, the 2nd and 7th & 8th Houses from the signifying houses for

the relatives. I cannot imagine how to apply other death inflicting rules to

the Divisional charts.

Q4: Why are planets associated with the 2/7houses death inflictors? Show at

least one case where this has proved to be correct. What remedy does

Parasara prescribe for this position or ownership of planets?

Ans: 7th house is the 12th house from 8th Ayus house and 2nd house is the

8th from the death inflicting 7th house.

In case of Lt.Rajiv Gandhi, Ex PM of India. His 7th lord is Rh placed in

inimical 12th house. His second lord is Mercury. He died during his Rahu

dasa-Mercury antardasa.

I have to get and read BPHS and Vedic Remidies in Astrology for the remedial

measures.

Q5: What is the importance of the Moon in averting Balarishta? What are the

ages of Balarishta,

Yogarishta, Alpa Ayus, Madhya Ayus and Poorna Ayus?

I don't get the right answer. If it is Saturn, OK it is the Naisargika Ayur

karaka. If it is Lagna Lord, OK it is the Lagna the body that is involved in

Ayus. How is Moon is involved in Balarishta. There must be an epic behind

this. But, I will attempt.

Amatyakarak - Moon as it is Vishnu who takes care of us and it is the mother

who takes care of child till it becomes strong enough. So, the Moon is

involved in taking care of us until we are strong and we can be on our own.

Thus, Moon's importance is there in averting Balarishta.

Balarishtha - 0 to 12 years

Yogarishtha - 2 to 20 years

Alpa Ayus indicates - 20-36

Madhya Ayus - 36-72

Purna Ayus - 72-120

Thanks

Your sisya

Solai Kannan

PS: MY CHART IS ATTACHED

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free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it

from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net.

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Date of Birth: November 21, 1964

Time of Birth: 1:35:15 pm

Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 78 E 50

Latitude of Birth: 9 N 23

Lunar month (maasa): Karthika

Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Dwitiya

Tithi balance: 0.0472

Nakshatra balance: 0.5654

Sun-Moon Yoga: Siddha

Sun-Moon Karana: Garija

Vara (weekday): Saturday

Sunrise = 6:10 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

Ayanamsa = 23-21-43

Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

Planet Position Pada CharaK

Ascdt 25 Aq 30 Poo.Bhaa. 2 -

Sun 5 Sc 41 Anuradha 1 PK

Moon 29 Ta 07 Mrigasira 2 AmK

Mars 14 Le 20 Poo.Pha. 1 PiK

Mercury 25 Sc 09 Jyeshtha 3 MK

Jupiter ® 26 Ar 37 Bharani 4 BK

Venus 2 Li 04 Chitra 3 DK

Saturn 5 Aq 19 Dhanishtha 4 GK

Rahu 0 Ge 46 Mrigasira 3 AK

Ketu 0 Sg 46 Moola 1 -

BhavaLg 26 Aq 31 Poo.Bhaa. 2 -

HoraLg 17 Ge 39 Aardra 4 -

GhatiLg 21 Ta 05 Rohini 4 -

Dhooma 19 Pi 01 Revathi 1 -

Vyati 10 Ar 58 Aswini 4 -

Pari 10 Li 58 Swathi 2 -

I.Chapa 19 Vi 01 Hastha 3 -

Upaketu 5 Li 41 Chitra 4 -

Kaala 14 Sg 45 Poo.Shaa. 1 -

Mrityu 28 Cp 37 Dhanishtha 2 -

ArthaPr 23 Aq 22 Poo.Bhaa. 2 -

YamaGha 19 Pi 01 Revathi 1 -

Mandi 14 Sc 39 Anuradha 4 -

Gulika 4 Sc 33 Anuradha 1 -

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| | | GL | Rah |

| | | Moo | HL |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| Sat | | |

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| Asc | | |

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| BL | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

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| | | Mar |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| Ket | | Ven | |

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| | | Asc | |

| HL | Ket | | |

| | | BL | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Mer | | GL |

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|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | Mar |

| | | |

| | | Glk |

| | | |

| | | Sun |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Rah | |

| | Mnd | | Moo |

| | | Ven | |

| | Sat | | |

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Vimsottari Dasa:

Mars 1964-11-21 Merc 1965-05-07

Ketu 1966-05-04 Venu 1966-09-30 Sun 1967-11-30 Moon

1968-04-06

Rahu 1968-11-05 Jupi 1971-07-19 Satu 1973-12-12 Merc 1976-10-18 Ketu

1979-05-07

Venu 1980-05-25 Sun 1983-05-25 Moon 1984-04-18 Mars

1985-10-18

Jupi 1986-11-05 Satu 1988-12-24 Merc 1991-07-07 Ketu 1993-10-12 Venu

1994-09-18

Sun 1997-05-19 Moon 1998-03-07 Mars 1999-07-07 Rahu

2000-06-12

Satu 2002-11-05 Merc 2005-11-08 Ketu 2008-07-18 Venu 2009-08-27 Sun

2012-10-27

Moon 2013-10-09 Mars 2015-05-10 Rahu 2016-06-18 Jupi

2019-04-25

Merc 2021-11-05 Ketu 2024-04-03 Venu 2025-03-31 Sun 2028-01-30 Moon

2028-12-05

Mars 2030-05-06 Rahu 2031-05-04 Jupi 2033-11-20 Satu

2036-02-26

Ketu 2038-11-05 Venu 2039-04-03 Sun 2040-06-02 Moon 2040-10-08 Mars

2041-05-09

Rahu 2041-10-05 Jupi 2042-10-24 Satu 2043-09-30 Merc

2044-11-08

Venu 2045-11-05 Sun 2049-03-06 Moon 2050-03-06 Mars 2051-11-05 Rahu

2053-01-04

Jupi 2056-01-05 Satu 2058-09-05 Merc 2061-11-05 Ketu

2064-09-04

Sun 2065-11-05 Moon 2066-02-22 Mars 2066-08-24 Rahu 2066-12-30 Jupi

2067-11-23

Satu 2068-09-11 Merc 2069-08-24 Ketu 2070-06-30 Venu

2070-11-05

Moon 2071-11-05 Mars 2072-09-04 Rahu 2073-04-05 Jupi 2074-10-05 Satu

2076-02-04

Merc 2077-09-05 Ketu 2079-02-04 Venu 2079-09-05 Sun

2081-05-06

Ashtottari Dasa:

Venu 1964-11-21 Rahu 1966-07-08

Sun 1968-11-06 Moon 1969-03-08 Mars 1970-01-06 Merc 1970-06-17 Satu

1971-05-28

Jupi 1971-12-17 Rahu 1973-01-06 Venu 1973-09-06

Moon 1974-11-06 Mars 1976-12-06 Merc 1978-01-16 Satu 1980-05-28 Jupi

1981-10-17

Rahu 1984-06-07 Venu 1986-02-05 Sun 1989-01-06

Mars 1989-11-06 Merc 1990-06-10 Satu 1991-09-13 Jupi 1992-06-10 Rahu

1993-11-06

Venu 1994-09-27 Sun 1996-04-17 Moon 1996-09-26

Merc 1997-11-06 Satu 2000-07-10 Jupi 2002-02-05 Rahu 2005-02-02 Venu

2006-12-23

Sun 2010-04-14 Moon 2011-03-25 Mars 2013-08-03

Satu 2014-11-06 Jupi 2015-10-10 Rahu 2017-07-14 Venu 2018-08-24 Sun

2020-08-03

Moon 2021-02-22 Mars 2022-07-14 Merc 2023-04-11

Jupi 2024-11-06 Rahu 2028-03-10 Venu 2030-04-20 Sun 2033-12-30 Moon

2035-01-19

Mars 2037-09-09 Merc 2039-02-05 Satu 2042-02-02

Rahu 2043-11-06 Venu 2045-03-07 Sun 2047-07-07 Moon 2048-03-07 Mars

2049-11-06

Merc 2050-09-26 Satu 2052-08-16 Jupi 2053-09-26

Venu 2055-11-06 Sun 2059-12-06 Moon 2061-02-05 Mars 2064-01-06 Merc

2065-07-27

Satu 2068-11-15 Jupi 2070-10-27 Rahu 2074-07-07

Kalachakra Dasa:

Ar 1964-11-21 Ge 1965-07-18 Ta 1966-04-22 Ar 1967-08-28

Sg 1968-03-30 Cp 1969-02-01 Aq 1969-06-05 Pi 1969-10-06

Ta 1970-08-10 Ge 1973-09-10 Ta 1975-06-05 Ar 1978-07-06 Sg 1979-11-11

Cp 1981-10-15 Aq 1982-07-23 Pi 1983-05-01 Ar 1985-04-04

Ge 1986-08-10 Le 1987-07-24 Cn 1988-02-02 Vi 1990-04-24 Li 1991-04-07

Sc 1992-12-16 Pi 1993-09-13 Aq 1994-10-05 Cp 1995-03-08

Le 1995-08-10 Cn 1995-11-25 Vi 1997-02-19 Li 1997-08-31 Sc 1998-08-10

Pi 1999-01-07 Aq 1999-08-10 Cp 1999-11-04 Ge 2000-01-29

Cn 2000-08-09 Vi 2005-10-17 Li 2008-01-07 Sc 2011-12-21 Pi 2013-09-13

Aq 2016-03-03 Cp 2017-02-27 Ge 2018-02-23 Le 2020-05-15

Vi 2021-08-09 Li 2022-07-23 Sc 2024-04-02 Pi 2024-12-29 Aq 2026-01-20

Cp 2026-06-23 Ge 2026-11-25 Le 2027-11-08 Cn 2028-05-19

Li 2030-08-10 Sc 2033-08-14 Pi 2034-12-08 Aq 2036-10-25 Cp 2037-07-27

Ge 2038-04-28 Le 2040-01-07 Cn 2040-12-16 Vi 2044-11-29

Sc 2046-08-09 Pi 2047-03-08 Aq 2048-01-03 Cp 2048-05-02 Ge 2048-08-30

Le 2049-05-28 Cn 2049-10-26 Vi 2051-07-19 Li 2052-04-15

Pi 2053-08-09 Aq 2054-10-13 Cp 2055-04-03 Ge 2055-09-22 Le 2056-10-12

Cn 2057-05-15 Vi 2059-11-04 Li 2060-11-24 Sc 2062-10-13

Aq 2063-08-10 Cp 2063-10-17 Ge 2063-12-25 Le 2064-05-28 Cn 2064-08-22

Vi 2065-08-18 Li 2066-01-19 Sc 2066-10-21 Pi 2067-02-19

Cp 2067-08-10 Ge 2067-10-17 Le 2068-03-20 Cn 2068-06-14 Vi 2069-06-10

Li 2069-11-12 Sc 2070-08-14 Pi 2070-12-12 Aq 2071-06-02

Ashtakavarga Tables (before reduction):

Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi

Sun 4 4 2 4 5 6 3 4* 4 2 5 5

Moon 6 4* 5 5 3 3 3 4 4 5 4 3

Mars 3 3 1 2 4* 6 2 3 2 3 4 6

Merc 3 4 3 3 5 6 5 6* 4 2 6 7

Jupi 3* 4 7 6 5 4 2 7 3 4 6 5

Venu 5 4 6 4 3 5 5* 4 5 5 3 3

Satu 3 3 4 5 4 4 3 2 4 1 3* 3

Total 27 26 28 29 29 34 23 30 26 22 31 32

Ashtakavarga Tables (after reduction):

Ar Ta Ge Cn Le Vi Li Sc Sg Cp Aq Pi

Sun 0 2 0 0 1 4 1 0 0 0 3 1

Moon 3 1 2 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0

Mars 1 0 0 0 2 3 1 1 0 0 3 4

Merc 0 2 0 0 2 4 2 3 1 0 3 1

Jupi 0 0 5 1 2 0 0 2 0 0 4 0

Venu 2 0 3 1 0 0 2 1 2 1 0 0

Satu 0 2 1 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0

Total 1 4 5 0 3 5 0 1 0 0 8 3

Sodya Pindas:

RasiP GrahaP SodyaP Rasi Nakshatra

Sun 102 40 142 Pi Swathi

Moon 88 50 138 Vi Aasresha

Mars 138 58 196 Cn Punarvasu

Merc 152 85 237 Vi Jyeshtha

Jupi 124 56 180 Pi Revathi

Venu 87 44 131 Sg Swathi

Satu 55 18 73 Cn Sravanam

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| | | Glk |

| | | Sun |

| | | Mnd |

| | | Asc BL |

|-------------| H O R A |-------------|

| | | GL Moo |

| | | Rah Mar |

| | | |

| | | Ven Mer |

| | | Ket Sat |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| Mnd | | | Rah |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| Sat | | Mer |

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|-------------| D - 3 |-------------|

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| GL | | |

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| Moo | | |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | Glk | HL Ven | |

| Mar | | | |

| | Sun | Asc BL | |

| Ket | | | |

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| | | | Rah |

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| Moo | | |

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| Mnd | | |

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| Sat | | |

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| JupR | | Mer |

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| HL | | | |

| | Glk Sun | Ven | |

| Ket | | | |

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| | Rah Ven | Glk | |

| Mnd | | | |

| | Ket Sat | Sun | |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| GL | | |

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| HL | Moo | | |

| | | Asc | |

| Mar | Mer | | |

| | | BL | |

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| | Rah | | |

| Moo | | | |

| | Ven | Sat | Mar |

| Mer | | | |

| | Ket | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| GL | | HL |

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|-------------| D - 6 |-------------|

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| Mnd | Sun | Glk | Asc |

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| | | | BL |

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| | | | Rah |

| GL | | | |

| | | Moo | Glk |

| Sat | | | |

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| | | BL |

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| Ket | Mar | | |

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| Mar | | | Mer |

| | Ven | GL | |

| Mnd | | | Asc |

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| | | Moo |

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| | | BL |

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|-------------| D - 8 |-------------|

| Glk | | |

| | | Rah |

| Sun | | |

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| Sat | | |

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| HL | JupR | | |

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| Mer | | | |

| | | | Rah |

| Sat | | | |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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|-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------|

| | | GL |

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| | | Glk |

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| | | Sun |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | HL | Moo Ven | |

| Mar | | | |

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| Ket | | | |

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| Asc | | | |

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| BL | | | |

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| Rah | | |

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| JupR | | HL |

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| Moo | | Ket |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| | Sun | Ven | |

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| | Mnd | | Rah |

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| | Sat | | |

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| JupR | | |

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|-------------| D - 1 2 |-------------|

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| GL HL | | |

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| Mar Sun | | |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| | | Ven | Mer |

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| Mar | | | |

| | | Ven | JupR |

| Mnd | | | |

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|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

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| | | GL |

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|-------------| D - 1 6 |-------------|

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| | | Glk | HL |

| Rah | Moo | | |

| | | Sat | Mer |

| Ket | Sun | | |

| | | BL | Asc |

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| Mer | Asc | | |

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August 1, 2000

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

Namaste Mr.Gauranga Das,

First, thanks for your wonderful answers for the Lesson 8A. It shows the students, how a reply to the assignment should be.

Thanks for correcting my answers. Right from the beginning I was confused with the application of the vimshottari dasa in my case.

1.As per the given criteria, Ashtotari dasa will be applicable in my case. If this is true, then whatever, I answer based on Tara or Vimshottari will not be accurate. So, I didn't know whether, I have to answer or not. But, I worked out on Vimshotari as it is an assignment.

2.When I started to do the Vimshotari, then Taradasa is applicable in my case. Again, here first I arrived at one set of sequence, I am not sure about the accuracy of it. Then I asked Gurudeva to enlighten me on the strength of the planets. Finally, as per his Moola dasa lesson and as per the example on Mooladasa, given by Mr.Narasimha I worked out my Taradasa and attached to my answer to 1st question of Lesson 8A. As I am not sure about the order, I cannot make accurate predictions on the assignment questions. That is why I took the normal Vimshotari dasa, which I know I should not do.

Even, I am not happy about your Taradasa sequence. Let me give my reasons for selecting the order of the Tara dasa.

Out of the five planets in Kendra Saturn, Moon, Mars, Sun and Mercury.

1st strength rule is Planets conjoined with more planets are stronger.

So, Mercury and Sun. First, I thought Sun is stronger as it is stronger in 10th house as per dhig bala.

Then, I applied the longitude rule and Chosen Mercury as stronger than Sun

Other order matches, what you have mentioned.

So, the final order as per me is: Mercury, Sun, Moon, Saturn, Mars, Rahu, Ketu, Venus, Jupiter.

Then about the longitude decision between Lagna and Moon. I took Lagna, because, Lagna lord is in Lagna. So the strength is 2, whereas Moon is alone.

Please, let me know, whether these calculations are correct?

But, One important question. FOR TARA DASA, The sequence will be same for all Kshema, Utpanna and Adhana Vimshotari dasa. Then, the longitude is also same. So, the dasa calculation will be same for all these three dasa. Is it correct? or do we have to calculate the Vimshotari dasa without considering the taradasa for these three dasas? (In fact if Moon is stronger than lagna, then all 4 dasa, Janma, Kshema, Utpanna, Adhana dasas will be same). [in the above paragraph, I am referring to your answer "........I think that it is important to use Tara dasa in this case and this should be used for allfour dasas erected........"]

In case of Gurudeva's example also taradasa is applicable, but, he calculated the three dasas separately based on the Nakshatra lord and normal Vimshotari dasa sequence.

Thanks

Your sisya

Solai Kannan

Gauranga Das [gauranga]Monday, July 31, 2000 8:53 PMvarahamihira (AT) Egroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: [sri Guru] Lesson 8A Vimsotari Qst. 2,3,4 & 5JAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Solai,Namaste.> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH> JAYA JAGANNATHA>> Namaste Gurudeva,>> Q2: What is the reason for calculating these three types of Vimsottari Dasa> based on the longitude of the Moon instead of Lagna?>> Moon is the Overlord of all constellations, so the longitude for these> Nakshatras, it is considered from the Moon.I think that this is not to the point. If we follow your logic, then it should have beenapplicable to the Lagna Nakshatra as will, which is not the case. Please see my answer.> Q3: Determine the period of death of at least two persons related to you (in> any manner) using divisional charts.>> Here: I considering my Normal Vimsottari dasa calculated based on Moon> Naksatra (Because I am not very sure about my Tara dasa calculation).I think that it is important to use Tara dasa in this case and this should be used fro allfour dasas erected. The order of dasas for movable signs are Venus, Jupiter, for fixedMoon, Saturn, Mercury, Sun, Mars, and for dual Rahu and Ketu. There may be some disputeover the relative strength of Sun and Mercury, as Sun's sadbala is stronger whileMerciry's residential strength is also stronger, so I request others to comment on thiscase. I have taken Mercury to be stronger as he is out of the combustion belt, and thusgains immense strength from the Sun.> My Father: In D-12, lagna is in Sg. 9th from lagna falls in Le. Considering> Le as my father's lagna. 2nd from Le is Vi occupied by its lord Mercury and> 7th from Le is Aq. occupied by Jupiter the 5th and 8th lord.>> So, his death can be during Mercury dasa - Jupiter antardasa. But, that is> coming at his 100th year. In between, Saturn dasa Mercury antardasa can be> the period of his death. But, Saturn is well placed in 5th from Lagna and> 9th from the Father's lagna i.e. Le. Similarly, Mercury is the Chara> PitriKaraka and placed in its house and in its own nakshatra. So, I am> confused here.I recommend to try Tara dasa order as above, maybe to reveals more accurate results,> My wife: In Navamsa, the seventh house in Sc, 2nd from this is Sg. and 7th> is Ta. Ta lord Venus is in 6th house from Lagnamsa and 12th from Sc. And> Venus is afflicted by Rahu. So, Venus can cause death. But, Venus is the> Chara Darakaraka and Naisargika Kalathrakaraka.>> The Second Lord from the 7th house, is Jupiter is placed in the 7th house> with MaranaKaraka Saturn. Saturn aspects the 7th from 7th i.e Lagna. So,> Death can be in Saturn Dasa Jupiter Antardasa.I think it's better to find out someone, whose time of death is already known, i.e. who isdead. siblings or grandparents may be seen.> I considered, the 2nd and 7th & 8th Houses from the signifying houses for> the relatives. I cannot imagine how to apply other death inflicting rules to> the Divisional charts.Take the respective divisional chart as indicated in the lesson, and see the housespertaining. In D-12 for example see the 4th for mother (or the 10th whihcever is strongeror aspected by more malefics). For father take the 9th or 3rd. for patrenal garndfatherthe 9th from 9th. i.e. the 5th should be considered, etc. So find the house and see the2nd and 7th from them. The dasas of the planets influencing them may bring the death ofthe relative. Also see the dasas of the Rudras, i.e. stroger of the fixed significator.> Q4: Why are planets associated with the 2/7houses death inflictors? Show at> least one case where this has proved to be correct. What remedy does> Parasara prescribe for this position or ownership of planets?> Ans: 7th house is the 12th house from 8th Ayus house and 2nd house is the> 8th from the death inflicting 7th house.Oops, I have overlooked this question in my answer regarding the remedial measures. Theremedial measures recommended by Maharishi Parashara for propitiating the planets givinginauspicious effects are as follows:Puja (worship of the idol of the planet)Mantra (chanting the pappropriate mantras of the Grahas)Havan (fire ascrifice to the planetary Deities)Bhojanam (feeding brahmins with the foods attributed to the different planets)Daanam (giving in donation the appropriate items ).> Q5: What is the importance of the Moon in averting Balarishta? What are the> ages of Balarishta, > Yogarishta, Alpa Ayus, Madhya Ayus and Poorna Ayus?Baalaristha is death upto 8 yearsYogaristha upto 20Alpayus 32Madhyayu 64Poornayu 108 or 120 (Deergahyu) according to Parashara. Others change Alpa and Madhya to36 and 72 respectively.The Moon is the lord of the first year in Naisargika Dasa. So a weak Moon will indicateBalaristha while a strong Moon will avert it. No Balaristha will take effects if the childis born under full Moon, or the Moon is otherwise strong, ocuppies benefic Vargas,conjuncts benefic planets or ha their aspect.Yours, Gauranga dasOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html

August 1, 2000

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Solai,

Namaste.

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Mr.Gauranga Das,

>

> First, thanks for your wonderful answers for the Lesson 8A. It shows the

> students, how a reply to the assignment should be.

>

> Thanks for correcting my answers. Right from the beginning I was confused

> with the application of the vimshottari dasa in my case.

>

> 1.As per the given criteria, Ashtotari dasa will be applicable in my case.

> If this is true, then whatever, I answer based on Tara or Vimshottari will

> not be accurate. So, I didn't know whether, I have to answer or not. But, I

> worked out on Vimshotari as it is an assignment.

That is true, Astottari is more applicable in your case for Phalita, but

comparing

Vimsottari dasas reckoned from the 4 different stars you would still get

indications for

longevity.

> 2.When I started to do the Vimshotari, then Taradasa is applicable in my

> case. Again, here first I arrived at one set of sequence, I am not sure

> about the accuracy of it. Then I asked Gurudeva to enlighten me on the

> strength of the planets. Finally, as per his Moola dasa lesson and as per

> the example on Mooladasa, given by Mr.Narasimha I worked out my Taradasa and

> attached to my answer to 1st question of Lesson 8A. As I am not sure about

> the order, I cannot make accurate predictions on the assignment questions.

> That is why I took the normal Vimshotari dasa, which I know I should not do.

>

> Even, I am not happy about your Taradasa sequence. Let me give my reasons

> for selecting the order of the Tara dasa.

>

> Out of the five planets in Kendra Saturn, Moon, Mars, Sun and Mercury.

>

> 1st strength rule is Planets conjoined with more planets are stronger.

>

> So, Mercury and Sun. First, I thought Sun is stronger as it is stronger in

> 10th house as per dhig bala.

> Then, I applied the longitude rule and Chosen Mercury as stronger than Sun

>

> Other order matches, what you have mentioned.

>

> So, the final order as per me is: Mercury, Sun, Moon, Saturn, Mars, Rahu,

> Ketu, Venus, Jupiter.

I accept. You are right. I was just caught by seeing Moon being exalted.

> Then about the longitude decision between Lagna and Moon. I took Lagna,

> because, Lagna lord is in Lagna. So the strength is 2, whereas Moon is

> alone.

>

> Please, let me know, whether these calculations are correct?

Yes, they are correct.

> But, One important question. FOR TARA DASA, The sequence will be same for

> all Kshema, Utpanna and Adhana Vimshotari dasa. Then, the longitude is also

> same. So, the dasa calculation will be same for all these three dasa. Is it

> correct? or do we have to calculate the Vimshotari dasa without considering

> the taradasa for these three dasas? (In fact if Moon is stronger than lagna,

> then all 4 dasa, Janma, Kshema, Utpanna, Adhana dasas will be same). [in the

> above paragraph, I am referring to your answer " ........I think that it is

> important to use Tara dasa in this case and this should be used for all

> four dasas erected........ " ]

This is only true if all four stars fall into the same category of rasis (fixed,

movable

etc.) Lagna is in fixed sign, so planets in fixed sign initiate. Kshema Tara is

in Cancer,

so planets in movable signs initiate the dasa. Utpanna Tara is again in fixed

Leo, so it's

the same as Lagna dasa. Adhana Tara is in dual Virgo, so planets in dual rasis

initiate

the dasa. he kshema, Utpanna and Adhana Taras are always counted from the Janma

Tara

(Moon's Naksatra). So there will never be a case where all four fal into the

same category

of rasis (either Lagna or Moon is taken for the fourth dasa). But if two

coincide then the

dasa shasams indicated by them are of course dangerous, especially if the dasa

lords are

otherwise also indicated as malefic planets. There may be a case that Lagna and

Adhana

Tara fall in the same category of signs while Kshema and Utpanna also fall into

same but

different from the other pair. Then we have two pairs of dasas which are similar

between

themselves. If there is a dasa sesham which coincides in both pairs, it will

definitely

cause death or near-death situation.

This is my understanding, may Gurudeva correct me if I'm wrong.

Yours, Gauranga das

August 2, 2000

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

Namaste Mr.Gauranga das,

Thanks for the excellent answers. It cleared the clouds around my

understanding.

Thanks

Your sisya

Solai Kannan

Gauranga Das [gauranga]

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:42 PM

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Re: [sri Guru] Lesson 8A Vimsotari Qst. 2,3,4 & 5

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Solai,

Namaste.

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Mr.Gauranga Das,

>

> First, thanks for your wonderful answers for the Lesson 8A. It shows the

> students, how a reply to the assignment should be.

>

> Thanks for correcting my answers. Right from the beginning I was confused

> with the application of the vimshottari dasa in my case.

>

> 1.As per the given criteria, Ashtotari dasa will be applicable in my case.

> If this is true, then whatever, I answer based on Tara or Vimshottari will

> not be accurate. So, I didn't know whether, I have to answer or not. But,

I

> worked out on Vimshotari as it is an assignment.

That is true, Astottari is more applicable in your case for Phalita, but

comparing

Vimsottari dasas reckoned from the 4 different stars you would still get

indications for

longevity.

> 2.When I started to do the Vimshotari, then Taradasa is applicable in my

> case. Again, here first I arrived at one set of sequence, I am not sure

> about the accuracy of it. Then I asked Gurudeva to enlighten me on the

> strength of the planets. Finally, as per his Moola dasa lesson and as per

> the example on Mooladasa, given by Mr.Narasimha I worked out my Taradasa

and

> attached to my answer to 1st question of Lesson 8A. As I am not sure about

> the order, I cannot make accurate predictions on the assignment questions.

> That is why I took the normal Vimshotari dasa, which I know I should not

do.

>

> Even, I am not happy about your Taradasa sequence. Let me give my reasons

> for selecting the order of the Tara dasa.

>

> Out of the five planets in Kendra Saturn, Moon, Mars, Sun and Mercury.

>

> 1st strength rule is Planets conjoined with more planets are stronger.

>

> So, Mercury and Sun. First, I thought Sun is stronger as it is stronger in

> 10th house as per dhig bala.

> Then, I applied the longitude rule and Chosen Mercury as stronger than Sun

>

> Other order matches, what you have mentioned.

>

> So, the final order as per me is: Mercury, Sun, Moon, Saturn, Mars, Rahu,

> Ketu, Venus, Jupiter.

I accept. You are right. I was just caught by seeing Moon being exalted.

> Then about the longitude decision between Lagna and Moon. I took Lagna,

> because, Lagna lord is in Lagna. So the strength is 2, whereas Moon is

> alone.

>

> Please, let me know, whether these calculations are correct?

Yes, they are correct.

> But, One important question. FOR TARA DASA, The sequence will be same for

> all Kshema, Utpanna and Adhana Vimshotari dasa. Then, the longitude is

also

> same. So, the dasa calculation will be same for all these three dasa. Is

it

> correct? or do we have to calculate the Vimshotari dasa without

considering

> the taradasa for these three dasas? (In fact if Moon is stronger than

lagna,

> then all 4 dasa, Janma, Kshema, Utpanna, Adhana dasas will be same). [in

the

> above paragraph, I am referring to your answer " ........I think that it

is

> important to use Tara dasa in this case and this should be used for all

> four dasas erected........ " ]

This is only true if all four stars fall into the same category of rasis

(fixed, movable

etc.) Lagna is in fixed sign, so planets in fixed sign initiate. Kshema Tara

is in Cancer,

so planets in movable signs initiate the dasa. Utpanna Tara is again in

fixed Leo, so it's

the same as Lagna dasa. Adhana Tara is in dual Virgo, so planets in dual

rasis initiate

the dasa. he kshema, Utpanna and Adhana Taras are always counted from the

Janma Tara

(Moon's Naksatra). So there will never be a case where all four fal into the

same category

of rasis (either Lagna or Moon is taken for the fourth dasa). But if two

coincide then the

dasa shasams indicated by them are of course dangerous, especially if the

dasa lords are

otherwise also indicated as malefic planets. There may be a case that Lagna

and Adhana

Tara fall in the same category of signs while Kshema and Utpanna also fall

into same but

different from the other pair. Then we have two pairs of dasas which are

similar between

themselves. If there is a dasa sesham which coincides in both pairs, it will

definitely

cause death or near-death situation.

This is my understanding, may Gurudeva correct me if I'm wrong.

Yours, Gauranga das

OM TAT SAT

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