Guest guest Posted July 12, 2000 Report Share Posted July 12, 2000 Om Vishnave Namah Dear Karu, I like your spirit. You work very hard and have learnt well. Yes, planets conjoining can change this. The Saptamsa given by You is as follows. My question is how did you get a girl child after correction?? Mars the fifth lord is in leo showing a male birth. Even if we take the ninth Lord Sun, this is in fruitful Cancer (Male) with Rahu (Male) and Moon (Female) showing male birth!! On the other hand, for Capricorn the ninth lord is Mercury (Female) and is placed in Gemini (Female). However, even this is NOT CORRECT. Ketu is in Capricorn and we have to count in the reverse (be careful when Ketu is present) of the reverse and this can indicate Taurus as the ninth house. Now, the Lord of Taurus is venus in exaltation (Male) with saturn (Female) in Pisces (Male). Conjunction dominates and female would be born. Also note the parivartana yoga of Venus with Jupiter, bith in male signs. thus whatever chances of a male child are lost and female shall be born (Be very very careful when Parivartana Yoga is present). Thus due to the Parivartana Jupiter gets the PAKA LAGNA power from Venus. from Jupiter we have the Sun in the tenth house to indicate the Tithi as Pratipad. Very tricky case indeed.So, the birth time of 6:15 was correct and there is no need to change it. Just confirm that the Pranapada Lagna is in trines to Moon or Lagna in Navamsa. Blessings Sanjay Rath +----------------------+ | | | | | | Ven | | | MerR | | | GL | | | | SatR | | | Glk | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | Sun | | | | | | | | Moo | | | | | | | | Rah | |-------------| D - 7 |-------------| | | | | | Ket | | HL | | | | | | BL | | Mar | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | Asc | | Jup | Mnd | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Blessings Sanjay - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Saturday, July 08, 2000 3:39 PM [sri Guru] Saptamsa Jaya Jagannath, Namasthe Gurudeva Sanjay, Sarat and all, I am doing one of my case study about children. But I have a question about the date the child born, if any one can kindly help me. Please note, the given time was 6.15PM but I changed it to 6.10 as only Danu Saptamsa shows a female birth. She has only one daughter born in 1978 when Rahu- Saturn- Mercury ruling periods. The vedic date she born was 1st titi. 1st titi is ruling Sun, but Sun having no relationship with 10th from paka lagna of child. According to the chart (7D) 10th from paka lagna is Aries and Mars should indicate the vedic date. But mars ruling 3rd and 11th titi. So why the birth took on a 1st titi.? After many struggle only point I could find was the combustion of Mars and Sun become the lord of the 10th from paka lagna. Is this correct ? Thanks in advance, Hare Krshna Karu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2000 Report Share Posted July 12, 2000 Jaya Jaya Jagannath, Namasthe Gurudeva Sanjay, Many thanks for your light and I understood my mistake. In my first *case study* I was able to pick the parivartana yoga up, but I failed this time. Since you have clearly proved that rules are applicable universally,I should go back for other SAPTAMASA case studies, which I kept away while ago. Waiting for your answers for last lesson, Rajayoga. Hare Krishna, Karu >Om Vishnave Namah >Dear Karu, >I like your spirit. You work very hard and have learnt well. Yes, planets >conjoining can change this. The Saptamsa given by You is as follows. My >question is how did you get a girl child after correction?? Mars the fifth >lord is in leo showing a male birth. Even if we take the ninth Lord Sun, >this is in fruitful Cancer (Male) with Rahu (Male) and Moon (Female) showing >male birth!! On the other hand, for Capricorn the ninth lord is Mercury >(Female) and is placed in Gemini (Female). However, even this is NOT >CORRECT. > > Ketu is in Capricorn and we have to count in the reverse (be careful >when Ketu is present) of the reverse and this can indicate Taurus as the >ninth house. Now, the Lord of Taurus is venus in exaltation (Male) with >saturn (Female) in Pisces (Male). Conjunction dominates and female would be >born. Also note the parivartana yoga of Venus with Jupiter, bith in male >signs. thus whatever chances of a male child are lost and female shall be >born (Be very very careful when Parivartana Yoga is present). Thus due to >the Parivartana Jupiter gets the PAKA LAGNA power from Venus. from Jupiter >we have the Sun in the tenth house to indicate the Tithi as Pratipad. > >Very tricky case indeed.So, the birth time of 6:15 was correct and there is >no need to change it. Just confirm that the Pranapada Lagna is in trines to >Moon or Lagna in Navamsa. >Blessings >Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2000 Report Share Posted July 13, 2000 Dear Karu or Sanjay ji, I am have a question when you say as follows: On the other hand, for Capricorn the ninth lord is Mercury >(Female) and is placed in Gemini (Female). However, even this is NOT >CORRECT. > > Ketu is in Capricorn and we have to count in the reverse (be careful >when Ketu is present) of the reverse and this can indicate Taurus as the >ninth house. Now, the Lord of Taurus is venus in exaltation (Male) with >saturn (Female) in Pisces (Male). Conjunction dominates and female would be >born. Since Capricorn is an even sign, shouldn't the counting naturally be in reverse, from Capricorn to Taurus to reach the ninth? Then with Ketu in Capricorn, the count switches to the direct count to Virgo as the ninth? Then that rules out the Sun tithi and so disqualifies itself; but is reverse counting in saptamsa and drekkana for even sign lagnas not a steadfast rule? may I ask Karu where have we found out about the 10th from paka lagna of the child in saptamsa matching the tithi, is it in the archives. Thank you, Sat Nam Sat Siri Kaur Karu wrote: > Jaya Jaya Jagannath, > Namasthe Gurudeva Sanjay, > > Many thanks for your light and I understood my mistake. In my first > *case study* I was able to pick the parivartana yoga up, but I failed this > time. > Since you have clearly proved that rules are applicable universally,I should > go back for other SAPTAMASA case studies, which I kept away while ago. > > Waiting for your answers for last lesson, Rajayoga. > > Hare Krishna, > Karu > > >Om Vishnave Namah > >Dear Karu, > >I like your spirit. You work very hard and have learnt well. Yes, planets > >conjoining can change this. The Saptamsa given by You is as follows. My > >question is how did you get a girl child after correction?? Mars the fifth > >lord is in leo showing a male birth. Even if we take the ninth Lord Sun, > >this is in fruitful Cancer (Male) with Rahu (Male) and Moon (Female) > showing > >male birth!! On the other hand, for Capricorn the ninth lord is Mercury > >(Female) and is placed in Gemini (Female). However, even this is NOT > >CORRECT. > > > > Ketu is in Capricorn and we have to count in the reverse (be careful > >when Ketu is present) of the reverse and this can indicate Taurus as the > >ninth house. Now, the Lord of Taurus is venus in exaltation (Male) with > >saturn (Female) in Pisces (Male). Conjunction dominates and female would be > >born. Also note the parivartana yoga of Venus with Jupiter, bith in male > >signs. thus whatever chances of a male child are lost and female shall be > >born (Be very very careful when Parivartana Yoga is present). Thus due to > >the Parivartana Jupiter gets the PAKA LAGNA power from Venus. from Jupiter > >we have the Sun in the tenth house to indicate the Tithi as Pratipad. > > > >Very tricky case indeed.So, the birth time of 6:15 was correct and there is > >no need to change it. Just confirm that the Pranapada Lagna is in trines to > >Moon or Lagna in Navamsa. > >Blessings > >Sanjay Rath > > ------ > Lonely? Get Firetalk! > Free, unlimited calls anywhere in the world. > Free voice chat on hundreds of topics. > http://click./1/5477/9/_/2192/_/963400004/ > ------ > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2000 Report Share Posted July 13, 2000 >may I ask Karu where have we found out about the 10th from paka lagna of the >child in >saptamsa matching the tithi, is it in the archives. Jaya Jaya Jagannath, Dear Sat Siri, Please find details in page 327 , COVA. Hare Krishna Karu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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