[Jagannath] Transcript of ISKCON Reading part 3

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At 6. 4. 2000 21:44:00, you wrote:

>The final installment of Pandit Sanjay's Reading on ISKCON

>Part 3

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>Why am I not having a doubt about Krishna? Because He is pure, He Himself is

>completely pure.

>

>There is a particular time when Gajaraja, the elephant king went to drink

>water and a powerful crocodile caught his legs. Gaja means elephant, raja

>means king. The crocodile is makara. Makara means Capricorn. Gajaraj means

>Jupiter, the elephant king. Gajaraja, Jupiter fought and struggled with the

>crocodile too much. He tried to come out, but the crocodile was not leaving

>him. The crocodile was in the water, his own place. Sani is in Makara.

>

>It is the debility of Jupiter that troubles the leaders of ISKCON. If you

>see the dashamsha D-10 the Jupiter is troubled in the 10th house of leaders,

>and Sani has caught hold of Gajaraja. That is why the leaders, the gurus,

>the good leaders, real gurus, they are really in trouble. These gurus are

>real tapasvis, in the house of Sani.

>

>ISKCON is very fortunate it has some of the best tapasvis. When this period

>or sub period of Sani comes the crocodile will catch the Gurus.

>

>When is the period of Sani? From August 99 to March 2001. During this period

>the Gurus will be in distress, they will want to go away. Another period

>sometime between 92-93, there would have been problems. The crocodile will

>catch some of the Gurus. Between 92 and 93 also there would have been

>problems. Look back!

>

 

Jay Radhe

 

Interesting. In 1984 in Venus dasa Saturn bhukti Tripurari Maharaja left ISKCON.

I've heard he was for four years with Srila Sridhara Maharaja

who left his body in 1988 so it must be this period of Venus-Saturn between

March 1982 and May 1985.

 

Also in 1984 Paramadvaiti Maharaja with 20 or so of SouthAmerican temples left,

and founded a mission, Vrinda. He now has a hundred of temples and he

actually revived the World Vaisnava Association idea, he was the main moving

force behind it.

I've also found, in the meantime, the date and place of WVA starting. It is 18

November 1994, Vrindavan.

 

Zavisa

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>>The final installment of Pandit Sanjay's Reading on ISKCON

>>Part 3

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>>Why am I not having a doubt about Krishna? Because He is pure, He Himself is

>>completely pure.

>>

>>There is a particular time when Gajaraja, the elephant king went to drink

>>water and a powerful crocodile caught his legs. Gaja means elephant, raja

>>means king. The crocodile is makara. Makara means Capricorn. Gajaraj means

>>Jupiter, the elephant king. Gajaraja, Jupiter fought and struggled with the

>>crocodile too much. He tried to come out, but the crocodile was not leaving

>>him. The crocodile was in the water, his own place. Sani is in Makara.

>>

>>It is the debility of Jupiter that troubles the leaders of ISKCON. If you

>>see the dashamsha D-10 the Jupiter is troubled in the 10th house of leaders,

>>and Sani has caught hold of Gajaraja. That is why the leaders, the gurus,

>>the good leaders, real gurus, they are really in trouble. These gurus are

>>real tapasvis, in the house of Sani.

>>

>>ISKCON is very fortunate it has some of the best tapasvis. When this period

>>or sub period of Sani comes the crocodile will catch the Gurus.

>>

>>When is the period of Sani? From August 99 to March 2001. During this period

>>the Gurus will be in distress, they will want to go away. Another period

>>sometime between 92-93, there would have been problems. The crocodile will

>>catch some of the Gurus. Between 92 and 93 also there would have been

>>problems. Look back!

>>

>

 

Jay Jay Sri Narasimha,

Jay Radhe,

 

What about ISKCON Moon-Jupiter period from April 1998 to Aug 1999. As far as I

remember in summer 1998 Harikesa Swami Visnupada left.

Srila Prabhupada did call him the most important granddisciple of

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. He was leading all in this area and was a main figure

in ISKCON. Having thousands of disciples, and being main mover in the field of

book distribution. Possibly Jup could also give these results

of leaving.

 

I have also decided that I did not want to associate with ISKCON during July

1998 after I read the book from Paramadvaiti Swami The Search for Purity

where I learned how GBC treated Srila Sridhara Maharaja. I could not tolerate

that and than it switched in my head and then I started to search for my guru

outside of ISKCON.

<http://www.vrindavan.org/English/Books/Search/search.rtf.zip>

Only in October that year did I start associating with Gaudiya Matha.

 

Yours sisya,

 

Zavisa

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Zavisa,

A good Jyotisha is always compassionate and most tolerant of all. These

are vaishnava traits. The leaving cannot be triggered by Jupiter as it is

the Lord of Lagna of ISKCON. Check the antardasa to confirm the period of

his leaving.

 

Why should the leaving of one person or the other have any influence on

you? Check your own chart for sensitivity and see the lordship of the Moon.

If this is negative then you will easily be influenced by the lives of

others and may react in excess to situations. People come and people go.

ISKCON is but an organisation, this World is also a bigger organisation of

His.

 

Saturn in the fourth is the real bane of ISKCON and they sould do some

permanenet UPAYA by repairing old temples of Sri Krishna like the one in

Dwarka or make some effort to repair and maintain the Puri temple. If they

do this then saturn will be easily pacified as it is in the fourth house and

in trines to Badhakesh Mercury.

 

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

>

> Jay Jay Sri Narasimha,

> Jay Radhe,

>

> What about ISKCON Moon-Jupiter period from April 1998 to Aug 1999. As far

as I remember in summer 1998 Harikesa Swami Visnupada left.

> Srila Prabhupada did call him the most important granddisciple of

Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati. He was leading all in this area and was a main

figure

> in ISKCON. Having thousands of disciples, and being main mover in the

field of book distribution. Possibly Jup could also give these results

> of leaving.

>

> I have also decided that I did not want to associate with ISKCON during

July 1998 after I read the book from Paramadvaiti Swami The Search for

Purity

> where I learned how GBC treated Srila Sridhara Maharaja. I could not

tolerate that and than it switched in my head and then I started to search

for my guru

> outside of ISKCON.

> <http://www.vrindavan.org/English/Books/Search/search.rtf.zip>

> Only in October that year did I start associating with Gaudiya Matha.

>

> Yours sisya,

>

> Zavisa

>

>

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Gurudeva,

 

Pranaams.

 

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Transcript of ISKCON Reading

part 3

 

 

OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Zavisa,

A good Jyotisha is always

compassionate and most

tolerant of all. These

are vaishnava traits. The

leaving cannot be triggered by

Jupiter as it is

the Lord of Lagna of ISKCON.

Check the antardasa to confirm

the period of

his leaving.

 

Why should the leaving of

one person or the other have

any influence on

you? Check your own chart for

sensitivity and see the

lordship of the Moon.

If this is negative then you

will easily be influenced by

the lives of

others and may react in excess

to situations. People come and

people go.

ISKCON is but an organisation,

this World is also a bigger

organisation of

His.

 

Saturn in the fourth is

the real bane of ISKCON and

they sould do some

permanenet UPAYA by repairing

old temples of Sri Krishna

like the one in

Dwarka or make some effort to

repair and maintain the Puri

temple. If they

do this then saturn will be

easily pacified as it is in

the fourth house and

in trines to Badhakesh

Mercury.

 

Thank You very much for the

suggestion. My Guru Maharaja

is very much intent on things

like this. I know that

ISKCON's devotees from

Bhuvaneshvar halped repairing

eithet the Alarnath or the

Konarak temple in Puri. My

Guru Mhararaja is in charge of

a project development in Danda

Bhanga (Kamalpur, near Puri),

where Lord Nityananda broke

Lord Chaitanya's Danda.

According to the scriptutres

thisi is a very important

tirtha, and it's now being

renovated by ISKCON. I have

been there, there is a nice

temple of Kapotesvara

Mahadeva, from the times of

Lord Ramacandra, there is also

Bhrigu Muni's Ashram, who met

Lord Caitanya there, and a

Deity of Danda Bhanga

Goopinath, established by

Maharaj Pratatparudra after

Lord Caitanya's disappearance.

ISKCON also renovated Vrinda

Kunda, the place of vrindadevi

Tulsaidevi, and My Guru

Maharaja is sonsoring a tempel

in Mamgacchi, Navadvipa. I

will give this message to him,

and hopefully ISKCON will be

bent on more nadm more

porjects like this.

 

Your shishya, Gauranga das

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In a message dated 4/10/00 11:07:51 PM India Standard Time,

gauranga writes:

 

<< ISKCON also renovated Vrinda

Kunda, the place of vrindadevi

Tulsaidevi, >>

Vrinda Trust has also done renovation work at Jawat, Radharani's summer home.

The walls were crumbling and we restored them. Also at Shyama kund is a

tree called tamal tala. Lord Chaitanya sat under this tree. We helped build

an enclosure to protect it from the monkeys, but unfortunately the tree left

it's body there. We are building a temple for Vrinda devi at Vrinda Kund.

The plans for Vrinda-devi's temple can be seen at:

<A HREF= " http://members.aol.com/kushamata/vrinda.htm#contents " >Vrinda Trust</

A>--the url is: http://hometown.aol.com/kushamata/vrinda.htm

 

Note the link to SJVC on this site.

 

Yours in Sri Caitanya's seva, Kusha devi dasi