[Jagannath] Moola Dasa

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Dear kARU,

GOOD ATTEMPT AND THE POINT ABOUT RETROGRESSION IS WELL MADE. IT IS VERY VALID IN MOOLA DASA AS IT SHOWS THE UNFULFILLED DESIRES OF LAST BIRTH OR THE CARRY OVER OF THE ACTIONS OF THE PAST. SATURN IN RETROGRESSION...EXCELLENT POINT INDEED. NOW THINK ABOUT NARADA MUNI, JUPITER AND READ ABOUT CURSES FROM BRIHAT PARASARA HORA SHASTRA. THEN ATTEMPT THIS AGAIN

Best WishesSanjay Rath

- Karu <heen

<varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>

Monday, April 17, 2000 1729 S Rath

[Jagannath] Moola Dasa

Jaya Jaya Jagannath,Om Gurave Namah, Namasthe Gurudeva, In related latest lesson, could you please translate the sloka in Saravali chapter 41- Moola Dasa Phaladdyaya, sloka 68 ? "Wakro pragasya hi dasa- Bramayathi cha kulalachakrawath purushamVyasanathi ripu virodam- karothi papsya na shubasya " I am having "Saravali" in my language but, interpretation of this sloka is not clear.So far my understanding is, "Retrograted Malefic giving Hard time" ! I jsut want to follow Saturn period of Sri Rama's Chart. If my above mentioned understanding correct, was it the reason for Rama's Vanvas ? Hare Krishna Your Sishya- Karu

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Dear Gurudev,

My respectful obeisances. Jaya Jagannath.

 

> 1. Jupiter - Janma

> 2. Moon - Shiksha & Janaki Vivaha, and

> 3. Mars - Diksha (by Vishwamitra)

> 4. Saturn - Dandakaranya (Vanvas)

> 5. Sun - Simhasana

> 6. Venus - Mantra Pada (Sita is banished and birth of sons - Luv

> & Kush)

> 7. Rahu - End of all Rakshasha/demons

> 8. Ketu - Establishment of 'Eka Patni Dharma' in the world 9.

> Mercury - Dharma (establishment of dharma in the world)

 

I am wondering about the sequence of events: why the end of the Raksasas

came after the Simhasana. Didn't it happen before, during the fight? What is

meand by the end of the Raksasa? Do you mean Vibhisana?

 

 

> Assignment

> 1. Which Yoga/ planets have contributed to the undying fame of Bhagavan

> Sri Rama?

 

Exalted Sun in A10

 

> 2. Explain the enemies of Sri Ram and which planets contribute to their

> rise and which planets contribute to their destruction?

 

Gauranga explained nicely - Saturn for Kaikeyi and Rahu for Ravana. Jupiter

(dharma) is in the 8th from Rahu. And Mercury (Bharata who condemned his

mother) is in the 8th from Saturn.

 

> 3. Which is the single most important Dharma lesson taught by Sri Rama

> which has become the a rule for almost all religions?

 

Gauranga replied

 

> 4. What was the curse in past life or existence that Sri Rama had to

> suffer for? Show this curse in the birth chart and explain the remedial

> measure necessary.

 

I forget the story, but it was a curse from Narada Muni to Visnu to have

problems with his wife. Curses from the sages are seen from afflictions to

Jupiter by malefics. In this case it is Mars in the 7th aspecting Jupiter.

Hanuman was the " remedial measure " who dearly served Mother Sita.

 

> 5. Why was there so much gap between marriage and birth of children?

> Explain the twin birth and the place & circumstances of their birth.

 

One explaination is that Saturn causes virodhargala on the 5th - so there

were no childern at that time. And Saturn generally does not like children.

Also Saturn aspects Upapada Lagna (grahadristi) which is also not conducice

to family affairs. A5 is in Pisces with Venus exalted. Asram of Valmiki

Muni. Venus in 12th from AL and UL - Sita bahished. Dual sign - twins.

 

> 6. Explain Sooparnaka the sister of Ravana and her desire to marry Rama.

> How did this desire lead to the kidnapping of Sita and the end of Ravana?

 

Rahu in Sag stands for Raksasas. Aspects 2nd house - desire to marry Rama.

Aspects Upapada - kidnapping Sita (also permanent enimity betwee her and

Sita by mutual rasidristi). Jupiter is in the 8th from Rahu - end of Ravana

and others.

 

> 7. Why does Parasara give the planet " SUN " to represent Sri Rama?

 

The Sun is the strongest planet in the chart, being exalted in the 10th

house and giving life to all the Mahapurusa Yogas. In Sri Krishna's chart

Moon is the strongest being exalted in Lagna.

 

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Dear Chitra, Comments below:-

 

- Chitra Wijewickrama <chitra

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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1733 S Rath

[Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

Jaya Jagannath!!!Pranaams to Sanjay and Sarat,1.Which yoga/planets have contributed to the undying fame.Five planets in exaltation makes Sri Rama the extraordinary person that he was. There are four maha-purusha yogas and the Ruchaka yoga (Mars exalted in akendra from Lagna) gives him the name and fame through courageous deeds. Exalted Sun in the 10th is another factor for name and fame.

Rath: Good attempt about the Sun in the tenth. Pancha Mahapurusha Yoga make Him Bhagavan, but do not give fame as such. There is a specific combination for fame.

2.Explain the enemies of Sri RamTamasic Rahu occupies the 6th house of enemies. Rahu represents forigners and people who don't uphold darma. (RAvana). Arudha of 6th is 8th house, Aquarious. 8th lord is tamasic Saturn. Rahu and Saturn represents the enemies. Saturn in the 4th house is the home based enemy (step mother). Exalted Sun with dig bala opposing Saturn overcomes the enemies.

Rath: A superb reply. I am delighted to see this response.

3.The single most important darma lesson.This has to be "DETACHMENT" Giving up the sense objects you get a greater joy. I do not know how to see this from the chart.

Rath: No, Yasomatinandana has given the correct answer in the form of EKA-PATNI VRATA. That is one man shall have one wife and this is a common part of many religions now.

4.What was the past life curse. I am unable to answer this and the subsequent questions. 7. Why does parashara give the planet sun to represent sri Rama.Rama is the incarnation of Vishnu, the Narayana. Sun represents Vishnu as the leader and the cause of the planets and everything there in just as Vishnu is the cause of the universe. This is my feeble attempt and I 'll wait for your elucidation of Sri Rama's chart to learn.Your sisyaChitraRath: Good job Chitra. Those who attempt will be the ones who will ever learn anything. I am waiting for others.

Best WishesSanjay Rath

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear ynd,

 

- Yasomatinandana (das) GKG (IC Moscow - R) <yasomatinandana.gkg

<varahamihira >

Tuesday, April 18, 2000 1242 S Rath

Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

> Dear Gurudev,> My respectful obeisances. Jaya Jagannath.> > > 1. Jupiter - Janma> > 2. Moon - Shiksha & Janaki Vivaha, and> > 3. Mars - Diksha (by Vishwamitra)> > 4. Saturn - Dandakaranya (Vanvas)> > 5. Sun - Simhasana> > 6. Venus - Mantra Pada (Sita is banished and birth of sons - Luv> > & Kush)> > 7. Rahu - End of all Rakshasha/demons> > 8. Ketu - Establishment of 'Eka Patni Dharma' in the world 9.> > Mercury - Dharma (establishment of dharma in the world)> > I am wondering about the sequence of events: why the end of the Raksasas> came after the Simhasana. Didn't it happen before, during the fight? What is> meand by the end of the Raksasa? Do you mean Vibhisana?> RATH: NO THE RAKSHASHA IN LANKA WERE KILLED AND THE DHARMIC ONES UNDER VIBHISANA CONTINUED TO LIVE THERE. THE PRESENT COUNTRY IS "SRI LANKA" AND NOT JUST "LANKA" HAVING GOT THE SRI OR AISHWARYA FROM THE DHARMA OF VIBHISANA.> > Assignment> > 1. Which Yoga/ planets have contributed to the undying fame of Bhagavan> > Sri Rama?> > Exalted Sun in A10RATH: NO WAY. A10 IS IN LAGNA, BUT THE SUN EXALTED IN 10TH GIVES FAME.

> > 2. Explain the enemies of Sri Ram and which planets contribute to their> > rise and which planets contribute to their destruction?> > Gauranga explained nicely - Saturn for Kaikeyi and Rahu for Ravana. Jupiter> (dharma) is in the 8th from Rahu. And Mercury (Bharata who condemned his> mother) is in the 8th from Saturn.

 

RATH: YOU GOT THIS VERY WELL ABOUT BHARATA AS MERCURY IS THE THIRD LORD FROM ARUDHA LAGNA AND SHOWS BHARATA. MERCURY ASPECTED BY MARS SHOWS LAKSHMANA (SHORT TEMPERED) ETC. BEING THE 12TH LORD (FEET) FROM LAGNA MERCURY (BHARATA) ASKED FOR RAMA'S SLIPPERS TO RULE ON HIS BEHALF AND THE SLIPPERS REPRESENTED RAMA FOR HIM...HE WANTED THE FEET OF THE LORD. SMART PERSON AS RAMA IS THE NATURAL ATMAKARAKA ND THE 12TH FROM HIM IS THE PLACE OF MOKSHA.

KAIKEYI AND THE HUNCHBACK MAID ARE REPRESENTED BY SATURN.> > > 3. Which is the single most important Dharma lesson taught by Sri Rama> > which has become the a rule for almost all religions?> > Gauranga replied> > > 4. What was the curse in past life or existence that Sri Rama had to> > suffer for? Show this curse in the birth chart and explain the remedial> > measure necessary.> > I forget the story, but it was a curse from Narada Muni to Visnu to have> problems with his wife. Curses from the sages are seen from afflictions to> Jupiter by malefics. In this case it is Mars in the 7th aspecting Jupiter.> Hanuman was the "remedial measure" who dearly served Mother Sita.RATH: YOU GOT IT RIGHT. DO I ALSO HAVE A CURSE FROM A GREAT MUNI IN MY HOROSCOPE? WHAT ARE WE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT HANUMANJI BEING THE REMEDIAL MEASURE?

 

> > 5. Why was there so much gap between marriage and birth of children?> > Explain the twin birth and the place & circumstances of their birth.> > One explaination is that Saturn causes virodhargala on the 5th - so there> were no childern at that time. And Saturn generally does not like children.> Also Saturn aspects Upapada Lagna (grahadristi) which is also not conducice> to family affairs. A5 is in Pisces with Venus exalted. Asram of Valmiki> Muni. Venus in 12th from AL and UL - Sita bahished. Dual sign - twins.

RATH: PERFECT ABOUT THE PLACE OF BIRTH OF CHILDREN ..REPLY FOR TWINS IS NOT CORRECT.> > > 6. Explain Sooparnaka the sister of Ravana and her desire to marry Rama.> > How did this desire lead to the kidnapping of Sita and the end of Ravana?> > Rahu in Sag stands for Raksasas. Aspects 2nd house - desire to marry Rama.> Aspects Upapada - kidnapping Sita (also permanent enimity betwee her and> Sita by mutual rasidristi). Jupiter is in the 8th from Rahu - end of Ravana> and others.RATH: NO YND, PLEASE RECONSIDER.

> > 7. Why does Parasara give the planet "SUN" to represent Sri Rama?> > The Sun is the strongest planet in the chart, being exalted in the 10th> house and giving life to all the Mahapurusa Yogas. In Sri Krishna's chart> Moon is the strongest being exalted in Lagna.

 

RATH: WHY NOT JUPITER BEING EXALTED IN LAGNA?

Best WishesSanjay Rath

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Jaya Jaya Jagannatha,

 

Pranam Gurudeva Sanjay and Sarat,

 

I was failed to find about Curses in BPHS. Could you give me little hint to find it.

 

Some of my thoughts are, Saturn indicate some unfulfiled desires regarding 4th house, mother.

Past life is seen from 5th house. Saturn is load of the 4th from 5th. So, curses from Narada muni

( Jupiter in the 9th from 5th) act this life against Rama, in related some bad desires about 4th house matters- Mother or residence.

 

The past karma act as his enemy in this life by having the ownership of Satru pada. And by occupying in the 4th- residence- Rama had difficulties in Saturn dasa. Probably he troubled his mother in his residence in past life ??

 

Rama- Rawana story only heard when I was very little. Can someone kind enough to give us some web sites to read about this ?

 

Hare Krishna,

Your Sishya

 

Karu

 

 

Dear kARU,

GOOD ATTEMPT AND THE POINT ABOUT RETROGRESSION IS WELL MADE. IT IS VERY VALID IN MOOLA DASA AS IT SHOWS THE UNFULFILLED DESIRES OF LAST BIRTH OR THE CARRY OVER OF THE ACTIONS OF THE PAST. SATURN IN RETROGRESSION...EXCELLENT POINT INDEED. NOW THINK ABOUT NARADA MUNI, JUPITER AND READ ABOUT CURSES FROM BRIHAT PARASARA HORA SHASTRA. THEN ATTEMPT THIS AGAIN

Best WishesSanjay Rath

- Karu <heen

<varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>

Monday, April 17, 2000 1729 S Rath

[Jagannath] Moola Dasa

Jaya Jaya Jagannath,Om Gurave Namah,Namasthe Gurudeva,In related latest lesson, could you please translate the sloka in Saravali chapter 41- Moola Dasa Phaladdyaya, sloka 68 ? " Wakro pragasya hi dasa- Bramayathi cha kulalachakrawath purushamVyasanathi ripu virodam- karothi papsya na shubasya " I am having " Saravali " in my language but, interpretation of this sloka is not clear.So far my understanding is, " Retrograted Malefic giving Hard time " ! I jsut want to follow Saturn period of Sri Rama's Chart. If my above mentioned understanding correct, was it the reason for Rama's Vanvas ? Hare KrishnaYour Sishya- Karu

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Gurudev,

My respectful obeisances. Jaya Jagannath!

 

 

> > > Assignment 1. Which Yoga/ planets have contributed to the undying fame

> > > of Bhagavan Sri Rama?

> >

> > Exalted Sun in A10

> RATH: NO WAY. A10 IS IN LAGNA, BUT THE SUN EXALTED IN 10TH GIVES FAME.

 

Thank you. This was a typo due to lack of attention.

 

 

 

> > I forget the story, but it was a curse from Narada Muni to Visnu to have

> > problems with his wife. Curses from the sages are seen from afflictions

> > to Jupiter by malefics. In this case it is Mars in the 7th aspecting

> > Jupiter. Hanuman was the " remedial measure " who dearly served Mother

> > Sita.

> RATH: YOU GOT IT RIGHT. DO I ALSO HAVE A CURSE FROM A GREAT MUNI IN MY

> HOROSCOPE? WHAT ARE WE TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT HANUMANJI BEING THE REMEDIAL

> MEASURE?

 

Jupiter in trines (am I right or it should be in Lagna only) aspected by

malefics indicates should indicate the brahmin curse. You got Jupiter in

Lagna aspected by Mars from the 7th and Saturn from the 11th. Without going

into D-Chart (which, as I remember also shed a lot light, especially D-60),

it indicates the brahmin curse in relation to a girlfriend. Rahu (DK) is in

Gemini - dancing girl, Saturn in 11th indicates friendship and thus

relatively pure intention. Mars in the 7th - attachment.

 

BTW, could you please in short remind that storu of Narada Muni's cursing

Lord Visnu. It just got lost in my memory, I cannot recollect any details.

 

 

>

> > > 5. Why was there so much gap between marriage and birth of children?

> > > Explain the twin birth and the place & circumstances of their birth.

> >

> > One explaination is that Saturn causes virodhargala on the 5th - so

> > there were no childern at that time. And Saturn generally does not like

> > children. Also Saturn aspects Upapada Lagna (grahadristi) which is also

> > not conducice to family affairs. A5 is in Pisces with Venus exalted.

> > Asram of Valmiki Muni. Venus in 12th from AL and UL - Sita bahished.

> > Dual sign - twins.

> RATH: PERFECT ABOUT THE PLACE OF BIRTH OF CHILDREN ..REPLY FOR TWINS IS

> NOT CORRECT.

 

I don't have Saravali, so I will wait for the others to reply.

 

>

> > > 7. Why does Parasara give the planet " SUN " to represent Sri Rama?

> >

> > The Sun is the strongest planet in the chart, being exalted in the 10th

> > house and giving life to all the Mahapurusa Yogas. In Sri Krishna's

> > chart Moon is the strongest being exalted in Lagna.

>

> RATH: WHY NOT JUPITER BEING EXALTED IN LAGNA?

 

I thought the Midheaven is the strongest among all houses. It is also AL.

Sun has digbala in the 10th also.

 

Your shishya,

Yasomatinandana das

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Karu,

The answer to the first question is below: -

 

Effect of CURSE OF BRAHMIN

 

Jupiter in trines aspected by Mars and Saturn indicates a Curse from Last birth/existence. SATURN will indicate the nature of the curse and the houses owned by Saturn shall be the cause of sorrow and problems/worry. If Saturn is in strength and in a Chara rasi, then a Great Brahmin is indicated and "Rajas Guna" shows anger is high. If Saturn is in a fixed sign, then Tamas Guna is high and Sorrow is indicated, while in Dual signs, the effect of the curse is negligible.

 

In the horoscope of Bhagavan Sri Ram, Jupiter is in Lagna and is aspected by both Saturn and Mars (Note this aspect is on Jupiter in Lagna which is also the ninth Lord). Saturn is the Lord of the seventh house (wife) and eighth house (separation from wife). Saturn is placed in a movable sign showing that the curse is due to Rajas (Passion) and anger. Saturn is exalted and retrograde showing that the personality is a Muni or Brahmin of the highest order and a great renunciate (Narada Muni). Saturn aspects the Sun in the Arudha lagna and the tenth house from Lagna showing that it will deny or delay the Rajabhishek (Coronation). The curse worked just at the time of coronation of Sri Rama when due to the machinations of a hunchback maid servant (planets in the fourth house indicate personal maid servants also and hunch back is indicated by Saturn) his step mother was able to have Him banished for 14 years. The Curse WAS FULFILLED showing that Remedial measures cannot end the suffering and only help us to overcome it or face it with Divine help. But then it is through the suffering that we can come clean.In this manner the curse of the Brahmin can be deciphered from the horoscope.

 

Now read the episode of the desire of marriage of Narada Muni due to the arrow of love that was shot at him by his brother Kama Devata (Love God) as has been given by Zavisa.

 

Remedial Measure

Parasara states that the remedial measure for Saturn is to worship Shiva with the Mritunjaya Mantra. We have already seen that the curse of the Brahmin is seen from both Mars and saturn aspecting Jupiter and it is the debilitating aspect of Saturn which needs to be overcome. Thus, by worshipping Lord Shiva Bhagavan showed us the value of the words of Maharishi Parasara and the efficacy of the remedial measure. Lord Shiva, in answer to the prayer came as His ardent servant in the form of Hanuman (Thus, Lord Hanuman is none other than Shiva and is called Rudra Avatar where Rudra is one of the names of Shiva).

 

Mars is a Yogakaraka and is exalted in Capricorn and is capable of removing the evils of Saturn. Thus Mars aspected by Jupiter becomes a fully qualified sisya (fifth lord) to destroy the enemy (being second from the sixth house). That is why the seventh house is called Satru Marana (House of death of enmity).

 

The place where the remedial measure is to be perfromed is seen from the sign occupied by the Badhakesh (Lord of obstruction). Here the Badhakesh is Venus (for Cancer Lagna) and is placed in Pisces (Sea's/Ocean). Sri Rama carved a Jyotirlinga from the sands near the southern tip of India called Rameshwaram and worshipped Lord Shiva that resulted in the destruction of the Ravana and the end of the curse. Thus the establishment of a Shiva Linga (called Partiveswara Linga) and its worship in the place indicated by the Badhakesh removes the evils of Saturn.

 

Best WishesSanjay Rath

- Karu <heen

<varahamihira >

Wednesday, April 19, 2000 0218 S Rath

Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

Jaya Jaya Jagannatha,Pranam Gurudeva Sanjay and Sarat,I was failed to find about Curses in BPHS. Could you give me little hint to find it. Some of my thoughts are, Saturn indicate some unfulfiled desires regarding 4th house, mother.Past life is seen from 5th house. Saturn is load of the 4th from 5th. So, curses from Narada muni( Jupiter in the 9th from 5th) act this life against Rama, in related some bad desires about 4th house matters- Mother or residence.The past karma act as his enemy in this life by having the ownership of Satru pada. And by occupying in the 4th- residence- Rama had difficulties in Saturn dasa. Probably he troubled his mother in his residence in past life ??Rama- Rawana story only heard when I was very little. Can someone kind enough to give us some web sites to read about this ?Hare Krishna,Your SishyaKaru Dear kARU, GOOD ATTEMPT AND THE POINT ABOUT RETROGRESSION IS WELL MADE. IT IS VERY VALID IN MOOLA DASA AS IT SHOWS THE UNFULFILLED DESIRES OF LAST BIRTH OR THE CARRY OVER OF THE ACTIONS OF THE PAST. SATURN IN RETROGRESSION...EXCELLENT POINT INDEED. NOW THINK ABOUT NARADA MUNI, JUPITER AND READ ABOUT CURSES FROM BRIHAT PARASARA HORA SHASTRA. THEN ATTEMPT THIS AGAIN Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Monday, April 17, 2000 1729 S Rath [Jagannath] Moola Dasa Jaya Jaya Jagannath, Om Gurave Namah, Namasthe Gurudeva, In related latest lesson, could you please translate the sloka in Saravali chapter 41- Moola Dasa Phaladdyaya, sloka 68 ? "Wakro pragasya hi dasa- Bramayathi cha kulalachakrawath purusham Vyasanathi ripu virodam- karothi papsya na shubasya " I am having "Saravali" in my language but, interpretation of this sloka is not clear. So far my understanding is, "Retrograted Malefic giving Hard time" ! I jsut want to follow Saturn period of Sri Rama's Chart. If my above mentioned understanding correct, was it the reason for Rama's Vanvas ? Hare Krishna Your Sishya- Karu

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At 19. 4. 2000 21:19:00, you wrote:

>OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

>

>Dear Karu,

>The answer to the first question is below: -

>

>Effect of CURSE OF BRAHMIN

>

> Jupiter in trines aspected by Mars and Saturn indicates a Curse from Last

birth/existence.

SATURN will indicate the nature of the curse and the houses owned by Saturn

shall be the cause

of sorrow and problems/worry. If Saturn is in strength and in a C

>hara rasi, then a Great Brahmin is indicated and " Rajas Guna " shows anger is

high. If Saturn

is in a fixed sign, then Tamas Guna is high and Sorrow is indicated, while in

Dual signs, the

effect of the curse is negligible.

>

>

 

Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah

 

So for Kendra positions its not a curse?

 

Zavisa

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Karu,

 

Namaste.

 

I was failed to find about Curses in BPHS. Could you give me

little hint to find it.

 

It's towards the ending chapters. But I don't really

understand how to see curses realting not to childlessness,

as Parasara Risi speaks mainly about that.

 

Yours, Gauranga das

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JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Gurudeva,

 

Pranaams.

 

A few short questions:

 

Why does the 8th house show the separation from the wife?

 

Why does the 7th house show the death of the enemy?

 

How to find the Badhakesha for each Lagna?

 

Your shishya, Gauranga das

 

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Karu,

The answer to the first question is below: -

 

Effect of CURSE OF BRAHMIN

 

Jupiter in trines aspected by Mars and Saturn indicates

a Curse from Last birth/existence. SATURN will indicate the

nature of the curse and the houses owned by Saturn shall be

the cause of sorrow and problems/worry. If Saturn is in

strength and in a Chara rasi, then a Great Brahmin is

indicated and " Rajas Guna " shows anger is high. If Saturn is

in a fixed sign, then Tamas Guna is high and Sorrow is

indicated, while in Dual signs, the effect of the curse is

negligible.

 

In the horoscope of Bhagavan Sri Ram, Jupiter is in

Lagna and is aspected by both Saturn and Mars (Note this

aspect is on Jupiter in Lagna which is also the ninth Lord).

Saturn is the Lord of the seventh house (wife) and eighth

house (separation from wife). Saturn is placed in a movable

sign showing that the curse is due to Rajas (Passion) and

anger. Saturn is exalted and retrograde showing that the

personality is a Muni or Brahmin of the highest order and a

great renunciate (Narada Muni). Saturn aspects the Sun in

the Arudha lagna and the tenth house from Lagna showing that

it will deny or delay the Rajabhishek (Coronation). The

curse worked just at the time of coronation of Sri Rama when

due to the machinations of a hunchback maid servant (planets

in the fourth house indicate personal maid servants also and

hunch back is indicated by Saturn) his step mother was able

to have Him banished for 14 years. The Curse WAS FULFILLED

showing that Remedial measures cannot end the suffering and

only help us to overcome it or face it with Divine help. But

then it is through the suffering that we can come clean.In

this manner the curse of the Brahmin can be deciphered from

the horoscope.

 

Now read the episode of the desire of marriage of Narada

Muni due to the arrow of love that was shot at him by his

brother Kama Devata (Love God) as has been given by Zavisa.

 

Remedial Measure

Parasara states that the remedial measure for Saturn is to

worship Shiva with the Mritunjaya Mantra. We have already

seen that the curse of the Brahmin is seen from both Mars

and saturn aspecting Jupiter and it is the debilitating

aspect of Saturn which needs to be overcome. Thus, by

worshipping Lord Shiva Bhagavan showed us the value of the

words of Maharishi Parasara and the efficacy of the remedial

measure. Lord Shiva, in answer to the prayer came as His

ardent servant in the form of Hanuman (Thus, Lord Hanuman is

none other than Shiva and is called Rudra Avatar where Rudra

is one of the names of Shiva).

 

Mars is a Yogakaraka and is exalted in Capricorn and is

capable of removing the evils of Saturn. Thus Mars aspected

by Jupiter becomes a fully qualified sisya (fifth lord) to

destroy the enemy (being second from the sixth house). That

is why the seventh house is called Satru Marana (House of

death of enmity).

 

The place where the remedial measure is to be perfromed is

seen from the sign occupied by the Badhakesh (Lord of

obstruction). Here the Badhakesh is Venus (for Cancer Lagna)

and is placed in Pisces (Sea's/Ocean). Sri Rama carved a

Jyotirlinga from the sands near the southern tip of India

called Rameshwaram and worshipped Lord Shiva that resulted

in the destruction of the Ravana and the end of the curse.

Thus the establishment of a Shiva Linga (called Partiveswara

Linga) and its worship in the place indicated by the

Badhakesh removes the evils of Saturn.

 

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

-

Karu <heen

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Wednesday, April 19, 2000 0218 S Rath

Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

 

Jaya Jaya Jagannatha,

 

Pranam Gurudeva Sanjay and Sarat,

 

I was failed to find about Curses in BPHS. Could you give me

little hint to find it.

 

Some of my thoughts are, Saturn indicate some unfulfiled

desires regarding 4th house, mother.

Past life is seen from 5th house. Saturn is load of the 4th

from 5th. So, curses from Narada muni

( Jupiter in the 9th from 5th) act this life against Rama,

in related some bad desires about 4th house matters- Mother

or residence.

 

The past karma act as his enemy in this life by having the

ownership of Satru pada. And by occupying in the 4th-

residence- Rama had difficulties in Saturn dasa. Probably he

troubled his mother in his residence in past life ??

 

Rama- Rawana story only heard when I was very little. Can

someone kind enough to give us some web sites to read about

this ?

 

Hare Krishna,

Your Sishya

 

Karu

 

Dear kARU,

GOOD ATTEMPT AND THE POINT ABOUT RETROGRESSION IS WELL

MADE. IT IS VERY VALID IN MOOLA DASA AS IT SHOWS THE

UNFULFILLED DESIRES OF LAST BIRTH OR THE CARRY OVER OF THE

ACTIONS OF THE PAST. SATURN IN RETROGRESSION...EXCELLENT

POINT INDEED. NOW THINK ABOUT NARADA MUNI, JUPITER AND READ

ABOUT CURSES FROM BRIHAT PARASARA HORA SHASTRA. THEN ATTEMPT

THIS AGAIN

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

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Monday, April 17, 2000 1729 S Rath

[Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

 

Jaya Jaya Jagannath,

Om Gurave Namah,

 

Namasthe Gurudeva,

 

In related latest lesson, could you please translate the

sloka in Saravali chapter 41- Moola Dasa Phaladdyaya, sloka

68 ?

 

" Wakro pragasya hi dasa- Bramayathi cha kulalachakrawath

purusham

Vyasanathi ripu virodam- karothi papsya na shubasya "

 

I am having " Saravali " in my language but,

interpretation of this sloka is not clear.

So far my understanding is, " Retrograted Malefic giving

Hard time " !

 

I jsut want to follow Saturn period of Sri Rama's Chart.

If my above mentioned understanding correct, was it the

reason for Rama's Vanvas ?

 

Hare Krishna

 

Your Sishya- Karu

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Gauranga,

Those are the principles. Read them carefully and you will be able to

understand about their effects on other bhava as well.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

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Friday, April 21, 2000 12:47 AM

Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

 

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Karu,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I was failed to find about Curses in BPHS. Could you give me

> little hint to find it.

>

> It's towards the ending chapters. But I don't really

> understand how to see curses realting not to childlessness,

> as Parasara Risi speaks mainly about that.

>

> Yours, Gauranga das

>

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Dear Sanjay ji and class,

I would please like to add a correction about Sri Rama's stepmother---

since Kaikayi is the third of King Dasharatha's Queens, she should probably

be shown not as the 4th from the 4th, but as the third from the third from the

fourth,

two manduk ghatis after his actual mother. That would put Kaikeyi as the 8th

house, with the A6, and not anything like Sita.

Thank you Sat Nam, Sat Siri Kaur

 

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Dear Gurudev, Zavisa and Classmates:

 

> Gauranga, info about how to find Badhakesha is on

> page 59 of Jaimini Sutra.

> For movable signs the lord of 11th house becomes

> Badhakesha

> for fixed ---------lord of 9th -----becomes

> Badhakesha

> for dual signs - lord of 7th house -----becomes

> Badhakesha

 

 

Which signs are these? Are these Lagna Signs or Moon

Signs?

 

Jitendra

 

 

 

 

 

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At 21. 4. 2000 6:30:00, you wrote:

>Dear Gurudev, Zavisa and Classmates:

>

>> Gauranga, info about how to find Badhakesha is on

>> page 59 of Jaimini Sutra.

>> For movable signs the lord of 11th house becomes

>> Badhakesha

>> for fixed ---------lord of 9th -----becomes

>> Badhakesha

>> for dual signs - lord of 7th house -----becomes

>> Badhakesha

>

>

>Which signs are these? Are these Lagna Signs or Moon

>Signs?

>

>Jitendra

>

>

>

 

Jay Jagannatha,

 

As far as I know it can be seen from any house. If placed in 12th, obstacles are

removed or not

there. Like Mars in Cancer for Leo lagna.

 

Z

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Jitender,

Badha means obstruction and every house in a horoscope shall have a

Badhak sign that will obstruct its activities. The Badhak for Lagna is the

most important of these and you will find a Chapter on Vighneshwaroopadesa

in my new book to be out soon....

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

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Friday, April 21, 2000 7:00 PM

Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

 

> Dear Gurudev, Zavisa and Classmates:

>

> > Gauranga, info about how to find Badhakesha is on

> > page 59 of Jaimini Sutra.

> > For movable signs the lord of 11th house becomes

> > Badhakesha

> > for fixed ---------lord of 9th -----becomes

> > Badhakesha

> > for dual signs - lord of 7th house -----becomes

> > Badhakesha

>

>

> Which signs are these? Are these Lagna Signs or Moon

> Signs?

>

> Jitendra

>

>

>

>

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear zAVISA,

 

There is a lot of Difference between Rudra and Shiva although they are

the same in many ways. Shiva is represented by the Sun whereas Rudra is

represented by Mars. Both are the same as they have Agni Tatwa, but are very

different that Shiva gives light and illumination and is of Satwa Guna

whereas Rudra is of Rajas Guna. Shiva is calm and happiness (Shantam

Anandam..) whereas Rudra is full of Anger and death inflicting. Thus Shiva

is the great giver of all the desires of the heart and sits in the seventh

house in the form of a Linga whereas Rudra sits in the eighth house. Thus

the 2nd or 8th Lord becomes the Rudra which is different from the 7th Lord.

 

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

 

> Jay Jagannatha,

>

> Also I've got a further question. Lord of Seventh is said to be akin to

Rudra, destroyer. So

> benefic would not destroy, and malefic would? Or how does it work,

precisely?

>

> your sisya,

>

> Zavisa

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Dear Guruji,

Are your other books or others that you mention from

time to time available in Mumbai? That way I can ask

someone to pick them up and mail them to me.

Jitendra

 

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

> OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

>

> Dear Jitender,

> Badha means obstruction and every house in a

> horoscope shall have a

> Badhak sign that will obstruct its activities. The

> Badhak for Lagna is the

> most important of these and you will find a Chapter

> on Vighneshwaroopadesa

> in my new book to be out soon....

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

>

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> <varahamihira >

> Friday, April 21, 2000 7:00 PM

> Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

>

>

> > Dear Gurudev, Zavisa and Classmates:

> >

> > > Gauranga, info about how to find Badhakesha is

> on

> > > page 59 of Jaimini Sutra.

> > > For movable signs the lord of 11th house becomes

> > > Badhakesha

> > > for fixed ---------lord of 9th -----becomes

> > > Badhakesha

> > > for dual signs - lord of 7th house -----becomes

> > > Badhakesha

> >

> >

> > Which signs are these? Are these Lagna Signs or

> Moon

> > Signs?

> >

> > Jitendra

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Sat,

 

Namaste.

 

After reading other responses:

 

Why was Sita banished? I have heard there is a controversy over

whether this was due to some actual bad behavior by Sita or

because Sri Rama had to uphold the social conventions? I haven't

heard the whole story.

 

The second. He was going around Ayodhya in disgiuse and He heard

a man sending his wife away because she had slept in another

man's house. He said that he was not like Rama who accepted His

wife back after her staying in ravana's palace. therefore, to

uphold dhama, He had to banish her to the forest.

 

How can Sita a goddess be represented by all exalted planets when

the indicators for the womanly self are the debilitated planets?

The aspect of the debilitated nodes on Venus must be part of

this. Is this why society, and some religions, have ever since

treated woman as second class citizens.

 

Sita was not an ordinary woman. She was goddess Laxmi herself.

Laxmi can never be signified by debilitated planets. By the way,

where do you get this dictum from?

 

Why did Lord Rama say he was not going to observe the Eka Patni

Vrata in his future incarnation?

 

He appeared as Krishna, who had 16108 wives in Dvaraka. therefore

he did not observe Eka Patni Vrata.

 

Yours, Gauranga das

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Dear Gauranga Das,

Sat Nam

thanks for replying to me. Please forgive my ignorance about so much.

 

Just as regarding the point about debilitated planets, this is not " a

dictum. "

Since studying Sanjay's edition of Upadesa Sutra of Maharishi Jaimini I

am seeing a wider application of debilitation. It does not necessarily just

mean the planet is weak/miserable or whatever projection one automatically

thinks of hearing a

planet is debilitated. It is also one part of a polarity, the polarity

existing between exalted/debilitated which can be an analogy to the polarity

male/female among

many other things. Thus debilitation in the drekkana or saptamsa is an

indicator of gender. This is a neutral concept, not a pejorative.

Similarly in reading wealth,

with the Shri lagna, debilitated planets can bring large wealth because, as

Sanjay

explained, they remove wealth from the other and in some zero-sum

wealth-related situation might give largesse to the native, for example. I

think now that in various vargas debilitation can mean various things, for

instance I've noticed in the D-10 of presidential candidate Al Gore the D-10

tenth lord Jupiter is debilitated in the 8th house. That seems perfectly

emblematic of the role of vice president--at the opposite end of the

polarity of power from the President-- and in a waiting situation, there in

case of death--8th house--of the president. So I have been trying to

see debilitated planets in this new non-pejorative light. So in Lord Rama's

chart I was thinking, and I dont really know of what (!!) exactly, but that

Sita's indicators all being exalted might have something to do with the

tragedies she had to face.....but anyway, it was a lame thought.

 

Sincerely............. Sat Siri Kaur

 

Gauranga Das wrote:

 

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Sat,

>

> Namaste.

>

> After reading other responses:

>

> Why was Sita banished? I have heard there is a controversy over

> whether this was due to some actual bad behavior by Sita or

> because Sri Rama had to uphold the social conventions? I haven't

> heard the whole story.

>

> The second. He was going around Ayodhya in disgiuse and He heard

> a man sending his wife away because she had slept in another

> man's house. He said that he was not like Rama who accepted His

> wife back after her staying in ravana's palace. therefore, to

> uphold dhama, He had to banish her to the forest.

>

> How can Sita a goddess be represented by all exalted planets when

> the indicators for the womanly self are the debilitated planets?

> The aspect of the debilitated nodes on Venus must be part of

> this. Is this why society, and some religions, have ever since

> treated woman as second class citizens.

>

> Sita was not an ordinary woman. She was goddess Laxmi herself.

> Laxmi can never be signified by debilitated planets. By the way,

> where do you get this dictum from?

>

> Why did Lord Rama say he was not going to observe the Eka Patni

> Vrata in his future incarnation?

>

> He appeared as Krishna, who had 16108 wives in Dvaraka. therefore

> he did not observe Eka Patni Vrata.

>

> Yours, Gauranga das

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OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Sat Siri,

Which sign are you taking to be the Moolatrikona of Mercury?

Best Wishes

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Tuesday, April 25, 2000 11:19 PM

[Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

 

> Sat Nam

>

> Dear Sanjay ji,

> In computing Moola Dasa does the dasa of Mercury exalted in Virgo

> count as 13 or 12 years to be subtracted from Mercury's Vimsottari dasa

> of 17 years?

> Thank you

> Sincerely, Sat Siri Kaur

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Dear Vijay.

Jaya Jagannath

 

Yes..ypu are right.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

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Tuesday, April 25, 2000 8:10 AM

Re: [Jagannath] Moola Dasa

 

 

> Dear Gurudev,

> My respectful obeisances. Jaya Jagannath!

>

> I remember your were commenting someplace about debilitated retrograde

> planets. Am I correct that the signification is strong but does not

manifest

> itself so easily? Or was it something else?

>

> Your shishya,

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