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Dear Sanjay Rath,

 

With all due respects where they are due.

 

I realise this is a minor issue on the path of learning Jyotish. But as I

feel this minor assault on my privacy may result in something bigger, let me

attempt to defend it to the best of my abilities.

 

I sincerely apologise for lacking the belief that you all somehow have

chosen to share, in the utopian promise of the new communication

technologies among other beliefs.

 

At 00:15 17/04/00 +0530, you wrote:

>SANJAY RATH wrote: >I am sorry, but then Vesco will have to go if he has

>problems about openly associating with SJVC.

 

Since when not submitting a personal picture has anything to do with openly

associating with anything? Did anybody inform me at the time of enrolling in

the course about this 'minor' extra requirement? And who knows what other

'minor' requirements will emerge in the process of the course? Why wasn't I

allowed to hide under convenient excuses for not submitting the pix as

apparently other members have been allowed for quite some time?

 

BTW if you could talk to my non-cyber circle of friends you would instantly

know that I associated as freely as my personality allows me and that I was

quite excited about starting this course. Not all of us want to be prophets,

gurus, public proponents of whatever. Some of us may not have the

capabilities, others may not have the strength anymore. I have to add that I

am interested in learning Jyotish and do try to disassociate myself from any

particular school or guru excentricities as soon as I sense them, to the

best of my abilities - that's my way.

 

>SANJAY RATH wrote: >If he has so many problems about his picture when the

entire learning is going to be free, then I cannot help.

 

'Problems' is not the right term and would lead astray the readers who do

not know the history of the e-mail exchange on the topic between Sanjai and

me. I can only say here that I was afraid the pictures could strengthen

certain narcissistic tendencies which I was trying to work through for quite

some time. I never said I was never going to submit a picture. Plus there is

the issue that although I have lurked on the list for 3-4 months, I still

did not know what I was getting into. Anybody with a bit of self-respect and

self-awareness will admit that there is no help on the SJVC site for a

complete complete newcomer to Jyotish to orient himself. There is no help on

any other Jyotish site that I know of, and I've put my months of going over

them. All of them are almost exclusively window displays for selling

something, free or not so free. All of them assume knowledge of Hindu

culture or at least gullibility from the knowledgeless.

 

Why is the alleged 'free' status of the course used as the not so subtle

stick to force a person into things that the person may not currently be

comfortable with? Isn't this bordering on disrespect to God's plan?

 

Don't we all know that 'free' learning (or anything else) is always more

expensive than the paid one ... that's one of the reasons for money to be so

popular, especially if one gets into the symbolic (and ritual) meaning(s)

the means of exchange have held throughout history on our little planet ...

 

If I pay, can I continue on the course without submitting my picture?

(I guess after all this the price will be prohibitive even for somebody way

above my humble means of existence.)

 

>SANJAY RATH wrote: >In any case this is one thing I never understood. See

>if you can speak to him.

 

That's the bit I fail to understand. You are the guru. You have my chart.

You know what's causing these 'problems'. Why wasn't I sent the mantra or

whatever other yagya to rectify the situation first before my disobedience

was punished in front of the whole class ... The guru wants to be my

spiritual father but refuses to give me the minimal love that even a bad

father feels towards his off-spring, instead compensates with more stick ...

should i continue with the psychological profile of the person behind the

guru title ...

 

In certain cultures the way I was treated in the situation is called

harassment. You pull fast, Sanjaiji, and maybe this is what keeps you on top

in these days of the still Wild Wild Web, but you have to work on your

marksmanship. Sorry, I do not carry guns, I am a vegetarian

 

It's not fair, Sanjayji, to blow in the open something which was meant for

your private use. You've lost my respect. You still have a chance to regain

it though ... if you decide to stay with what you are good at, organising

the teaching of Jyotish ...

 

let Krshna give power to my message,

 

Vesco

 

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I've noticed that periodically members on this and similar lists like to

indulge in power sparring like the present one which more often than not

results in strengthening the grip of the ego over one's faculties instead of

gradually loosening it. (I am not comfortable yet with the Vedic terminology

but I hope readers can translate it for themselves.) I do apologise for

involving any casual observers and wasting your time. But I felt it was my

duty to expose the method, however insignificant the trigger incident was.

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