Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 >Dear Karu do not feel sorry for your query or inquisitiveness. Even I was >like that, but slowly I have learnt to be patient and do the readings and >take the things gradually as they come and, believe me, they will come. >Sanjayji will teach everything gradually and surely. As they come, I will >make the notes for the benefit of all. It is good to be inquisitive but >don't take it on the high side to make you feel negative about self and >others in life. That was my message and request. Jaya Jaya Jaganath Om Gurave Namah. Dear Gurudeve Sarath and Sanjay, Thank you very much for your kind words in this regards. As I said earlier, I would have no doubt again, as I am still with you. Let us go back to lesson 2 Sarat, I have few things uncleared yet. It was clear me before Sudarshan Chakra comes to the mind, but I think I loose again. As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, Chandra Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could not see any thing related to lesson 2. But, trines can be explained many ways after study lesson 1 & 2, with the help of dasa.html, as SATVA, RAJAS and THAMAS. " Nara " according to me is human or animates. It is consist of beginning and end. Also completed with all three guna. To stay in this frame, one must have three guna. Narayana, not cleared as above. It is consist of Creation, Destroy, and Preserve. Still the same Guna. But how it is applicable in to four parts or divided in to four as I can see from quadrants ? At last, how I can apply all this to Sudarshan Chakra ? I never learn deep aspects or creation of sudarshan Chakra. I was trying to find some thing about my question last few days but I think I failed. Could you please give me some light about this ? Hare Krishna, With Respect, Your Sishya Karu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 >As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, >Chandra Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could >not see any thing related to lesson 2. I AM SORRY, THE LAST PART MUST BE RECTIFIED AS, " I COULD NOT SEE ANYTHNG RELATED TO SUDARSHAN CHAKRA " tHANKS, KARU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Dear Karu, Jaya Jagannath Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades all these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a part of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is present everywhere. The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in Kreta Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might to do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do anything and results will be tough to obtain. Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for the signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give some comments? Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Cc: Sarat Chander <saratchander Thursday, April 06, 2000 1705 S Rath Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > >Dear Karu do not feel sorry for your query or inquisitiveness. Even I was > >like that, but slowly I have learnt to be patient and do the readings and > >take the things gradually as they come and, believe me, they will come. > >Sanjayji will teach everything gradually and surely. As they come, I will > >make the notes for the benefit of all. It is good to be inquisitive but > >don't take it on the high side to make you feel negative about self and > >others in life. That was my message and request. > > Jaya Jaya Jaganath > Om Gurave Namah. > > Dear Gurudeve Sarath and Sanjay, > Thank you very much for your kind words in this regards. > As I said earlier, I would have no doubt again, as I am still with you. > > Let us go back to lesson 2 Sarat, I have few things uncleared yet. It was > clear me before Sudarshan Chakra comes to the mind, but I think I loose > again. > > As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, Chandra > Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could not > see any thing related to lesson 2. > But, trines can be explained many ways after study lesson 1 & 2, with the help > of dasa.html, as SATVA, RAJAS and THAMAS. > " Nara " according to me is human or animates. It is consist of beginning and > end. Also completed with all three guna. To stay in this frame, one must > have three guna. > Narayana, not cleared as above. It is consist of Creation, Destroy, and > Preserve. Still the same Guna. But how it is applicable in to four parts or > divided in to four as I can see from quadrants ? > At last, how I can apply all this to Sudarshan Chakra ? I never learn deep > aspects or creation of sudarshan Chakra. I was trying to find some thing > about my question last few days but I think I failed. > > Could you please give me some light about this ? > > Hare Krishna, > With Respect, > Your Sishya > > Karu > > > > > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955021345/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 I am currently running the dasa of Saturn , antaradasa of Venus In Rasi and navamsa, Saturn is in Virgo, prithvi rasi, Kali yuga In Rasi, Venus is in agni rasi, Kreta yuga In Navamsa, Venus is in prithvi rasi, Kali yuga Regarding tendency to inaction and ease of results: I agree on the overall tendency to inaction (all dasa periods so far have been in prithvi rasis) and to difficulty in achieving results. And Venus antaradasa has produced easy results. Each Venus antaradasa has been very productive of easy results so far. It is interesting that this is the only planet in agni rasi. Jupiter and rahu were in agni rasi in navamsa. All my major achievements were in these two dasas. I have noticed an increased disinclination to effort in sani dasa, possibly due to the vargottama placement in prithvi. Sani/sani was a difficult period both in tems of effort and results. - Sanjay Rath <srath <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Sunday, April 09, 2000 5:15 PM Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 Dear Karu, Jaya Jagannath Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades all these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a part of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is present everywhere. The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in Kreta Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might to do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do anything and results will be tough to obtain. Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for the signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give some comments? Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Cc: Sarat Chander <saratchander Thursday, April 06, 2000 1705 S Rath Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > >Dear Karu do not feel sorry for your query or inquisitiveness. Even I was > >like that, but slowly I have learnt to be patient and do the readings and > >take the things gradually as they come and, believe me, they will come. > >Sanjayji will teach everything gradually and surely. As they come, I will > >make the notes for the benefit of all. It is good to be inquisitive but > >don't take it on the high side to make you feel negative about self and > >others in life. That was my message and request. > > Jaya Jaya Jaganath > Om Gurave Namah. > > Dear Gurudeve Sarath and Sanjay, > Thank you very much for your kind words in this regards. > As I said earlier, I would have no doubt again, as I am still with you. > > Let us go back to lesson 2 Sarat, I have few things uncleared yet. It was > clear me before Sudarshan Chakra comes to the mind, but I think I loose > again. > > As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, Chandra > Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could not > see any thing related to lesson 2. > But, trines can be explained many ways after study lesson 1 & 2, with the help > of dasa.html, as SATVA, RAJAS and THAMAS. > " Nara " according to me is human or animates. It is consist of beginning and > end. Also completed with all three guna. To stay in this frame, one must > have three guna. > Narayana, not cleared as above. It is consist of Creation, Destroy, and > Preserve. Still the same Guna. But how it is applicable in to four parts or > divided in to four as I can see from quadrants ? > At last, how I can apply all this to Sudarshan Chakra ? I never learn deep > aspects or creation of sudarshan Chakra. I was trying to find some thing > about my question last few days but I think I failed. > > Could you please give me some light about this ? > > Hare Krishna, > With Respect, > Your Sishya > > Karu > > > > > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955021345/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > ------ Get paid for the stuff you know! Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955297177/ ------ HARE RAMA KRISHNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 Jaya Jaya Jaganth, Om Gurave Namah Dear Gurudev Sanjay, >Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of >the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades all >these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a part >of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is >present everywhere. I was very fortunate to go local ISKCON movement last night (first time) and discuss, also buy few books including Bagavad Geeta as it is. I could read few chapters of " The science of Self Realization " . This all clearly showed me the differant between Jeewatma and Paramatma, Sun as God or King of the planetory Cabinet and how indicate the suprime consciousness etc. Thanks, it is well cleared. > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi >rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in Kreta >Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some >effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might to >do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do >anything and results will be tough to obtain. > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for the >signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give >some comments? I am running Jupiter MD and Sub from end of 98. Jupiter is in Aquarius, 9th house with Sun and Venus. Being in a Vayu rasi indicate Dwapara must be bad time and hard works can be expected. In D9 again Jupiter in Libra still the same. But I wonder, this time was the time so far the best I had. My life changed, new learning, financial gains, more comfortable life, own a house etc. Only hard work is I do at the movement is learning Jyotish. God given me the opportunity to go correct path in this period. It is not clear with my chart, unless considering transits effect of Jupiter. Jupiter transits over Aries AGNI rasi. Looking for comments. Hare Krishna With respect- your Sishya Karu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 OM VISHNAVE NAMAH Dear Karu, The presence of Jupiter in the ninth in Aquarius is very good for Jyotish and Shiv Pujan also has this combination and is one of my best students. Vayu Rasi gives results to a much lesser extent than Agni or Jala and you will have to make some effort to get the result. Being Jupiter, the results will be good, but not the best. Take for example your joining this list this happened after you made some serious efforts. Others have made much less effort. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Monday, April 10, 2000 1635 S Rath Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > Jaya Jaya Jaganth, > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Gurudev Sanjay, > > > >Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of > >the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades > all >these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a > part > >of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is > >present everywhere. > > > I was very fortunate to go local ISKCON movement last night (first time) and > discuss, also buy few books including Bagavad Geeta as it is. I could read > few chapters of " The science of Self Realization " . > > This all clearly showed me the differant between Jeewatma and Paramatma, Sun > as God or King of the planetory Cabinet and how indicate the suprime > consciousness etc. Thanks, it is well cleared. > > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi > >rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in > Kreta > >Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some > >effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might > to > >do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > >anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for > the > >signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give > >some comments? > > > I am running Jupiter MD and Sub from end of 98. Jupiter is in Aquarius, 9th > house with Sun and Venus. Being in a Vayu rasi indicate Dwapara must be bad > time and hard works can be expected. In D9 again Jupiter in Libra still the > same. > > But I wonder, this time was the time so far the best I had. My life changed, > new learning, financial gains, more comfortable life, own a house etc. Only > hard work is I do at the movement is learning Jyotish. God given me the > opportunity to go correct path in this period. > It is not clear with my chart, unless considering transits effect of > Jupiter. Jupiter transits over Aries AGNI rasi. > > Looking for comments. > Hare Krishna > With respect- your Sishya > > Karu > > > > > > ------ > Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup > Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. > Install today: > http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955365004/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 OM VISHNAVE NAMAH Dear Nimmi, The best Upaya for planets in Prithvi Rasi is to worship Ganapati the lord of Prithvi Tatwa. Then the planets in Prithvi rasi start giving excellent results. Also worship Vishnu ruling the Akash tatwa which permeates all signs including the Prithvi tatwa. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 <varahamihira > Monday, April 10, 2000 0112 S Rath Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > I am currently running the dasa of Saturn , antaradasa of Venus > > In Rasi and navamsa, Saturn is in Virgo, prithvi rasi, Kali yuga > In Rasi, Venus is in agni rasi, Kreta yuga > In Navamsa, Venus is in prithvi rasi, Kali yuga > > Regarding tendency to inaction and ease of results: > > I agree on the overall tendency to inaction (all dasa periods so far have > been in prithvi rasis) and to difficulty in achieving results. And Venus > antaradasa has produced easy results. Each Venus antaradasa has been very > productive of easy results so far. It is interesting that this is the only > planet in agni rasi. > > Jupiter and rahu were in agni rasi in navamsa. All my major achievements > were in these two dasas. > > I have noticed an increased disinclination to effort in sani dasa, possibly > due to the vargottama placement in prithvi. Sani/sani was a difficult period > both in tems of effort and results. > > - > Sanjay Rath <srath > <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> > Sunday, April 09, 2000 5:15 PM > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > Dear Karu, > Jaya Jagannath > > Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of > the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades all > these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a part > of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is > present everywhere. > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi > rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in Kreta > Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some > effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might to > do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for the > signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give > some comments? > > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > > - > Karu <heen > <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> > Cc: Sarat Chander <saratchander > Thursday, April 06, 2000 1705 S Rath > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > > > >Dear Karu do not feel sorry for your query or inquisitiveness. Even I > was > > >like that, but slowly I have learnt to be patient and do the readings and > > >take the things gradually as they come and, believe me, they will come. > > >Sanjayji will teach everything gradually and surely. As they come, I > will > > >make the notes for the benefit of all. It is good to be inquisitive but > > >don't take it on the high side to make you feel negative about self and > > >others in life. That was my message and request. > > > > Jaya Jaya Jaganath > > Om Gurave Namah. > > > > Dear Gurudeve Sarath and Sanjay, > > Thank you very much for your kind words in this regards. > > As I said earlier, I would have no doubt again, as I am still with you. > > > > Let us go back to lesson 2 Sarat, I have few things uncleared yet. It was > > clear me before Sudarshan Chakra comes to the mind, but I think I loose > > again. > > > > As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, Chandra > > Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could > not > > see any thing related to lesson 2. > > But, trines can be explained many ways after study lesson 1 & 2, with the > help > > of dasa.html, as SATVA, RAJAS and THAMAS. > > " Nara " according to me is human or animates. It is consist of beginning > and > > end. Also completed with all three guna. To stay in this frame, one must > > have three guna. > > Narayana, not cleared as above. It is consist of Creation, Destroy, and > > Preserve. Still the same Guna. But how it is applicable in to four parts > or > > divided in to four as I can see from quadrants ? > > At last, how I can apply all this to Sudarshan Chakra ? I never learn deep > > aspects or creation of sudarshan Chakra. I was trying to find some thing > > about my question last few days but I think I failed. > > > > Could you please give me some light about this ? > > > > Hare Krishna, > > With Respect, > > Your Sishya > > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Get paid for the stuff you know! > > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955021345/ > > ------ > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955297177/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > ------ > @Backup- Protect and Access your data any time, any where on the net. > Try @Backup FREE and recieve 300 points from mypoints.com Install now: > http://click./1/2345/4/_/2192/_/955347602/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 At 9. 4. 2000 21:45:00, you wrote: >Dear Karu, >Jaya Jagannath > >Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of >the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades all >these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a part >of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is >present everywhere. > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi >rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in Kreta >Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some >effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might to >do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do >anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for the >signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give >some comments? > >Best Wishes >Sanjay Rath Jay Jay Sri Jaganatha, Jupiter Dasa in Kreta Yuga, 5th house. Except for a fack that I've got tranzit Saturn within 1 degree from that Jupiter things were nice ever since I got in Jup-Jup Prabhupada's Gita, and met devotees in Jup-Sat. So yes overall, I get to know many different gurus. But in Navamsa it is in 2nd in exchange with 3rd lor, so I get somewhat, in regards to my dharma, lazy sometimes due to that third house placement in Treta yuga. Venus antardasa is Kali's kali kali yuga so to speek. In 6th house sign Taurus of Kali ruling the house of moon all the time brings me in conttact with mentally disturbed women, from those that cannot sleep if they hear something that disturbes them, to serious cases, like from mental hospital, or cases that do not want to speak with me because I did not save them few files. Laughable. I cannot say that influences my mind beneficially and brings a lot of tamas. In Navamsa it is in Jala, Treta in 12th from AK so it did bring me in contact with meditators on pictures(Venus) that imagine Radha-Krishna lila and chant mantras, with some effort of imagination(Venus). Considering my jup aspect this, in exchange with moon and mars. Moon could engage the mind in this. But I do not do that, because guru has to give you the meditation and I will not approach Narayana Mj. But its nice to think of something while you chant. I also highly applaud this idea of Kusha and Gauranga for taped lectures. Have realised the benefit of transcribing when I did a lecture of BV Puri MJ. Also some lectures of Gaura Govinda Swami are waiting for me. You learn much more while you concentrate and transcribe slowly, than when you just listen. Regarding the laziness that coud come to some I think that can be counteracted by proper mental attitude. Have got a new idea, perhaps you could post these lectures on internet in Rael Audio, and then we could write and listen to them ourselves. Those that have a desire. yours sisya, Zavisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 Dear Zavisa, Jaya Jagannath So, you also agree to Vrinda devi's proposal (Vrida devi is our Kusha Devi..She is the closest we can get to Tulasi in this planet at present in Human form). I have to agree now. Will speak to Dinanath tomorrow. I have not liked the Venus in your chart...SHASTA SUKRA MARANA KARAKA...BEWARE OF THESE WOMEN..DO NOT GET TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, ELSE I SHALL BE A WORRIED MAN. Are you aware of the Marana Karaka places of all the planets? Venus in sixth or Jupiter in third are Marana Karaka. If these positions come from Arudha Lagna, then it shall be very bad. See the chart of srila Prabhupada and you will see how he was troubled by his wife. Of course, he never said anything. However as Lagna Lord, this shall not prevail, but this is not the case with your chart. Anyway, as a Jyotisha you will help them and that is why you are and shall continue to be my sisya...this is what I liked about you. You are caring for others. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath > > Jay Jay Sri Jaganatha, > > Jupiter Dasa in Kreta Yuga, 5th house. Except for a fack that I've got tranzit Saturn within 1 degree from that Jupiter things were nice ever since I got in Jup-Jup > Prabhupada's Gita, and met devotees in Jup-Sat. So yes overall, I get to know many different gurus. But in Navamsa it is in 2nd in exchange with 3rd lor, so I get > somewhat, in regards to my dharma, lazy sometimes due to that third house placement in Treta yuga. > > Venus antardasa is Kali's kali kali yuga so to speek. In 6th house sign Taurus of Kali ruling the house of moon all the time brings me in conttact with mentally > disturbed women, from those that cannot sleep if they hear something that disturbes them, to serious cases, like from mental hospital, or cases that do not want to > speak with me because I did not save them few files. Laughable. I cannot say that influences my mind beneficially and brings a lot of tamas. > In Navamsa it is in > Jala, Treta in 12th from AK so it did bring me in contact with meditators on pictures(Venus) that imagine Radha-Krishna lila and chant mantras, with some effort of > imagination(Venus). Considering my jup aspect this, in exchange with moon and mars. Moon could engage the mind in this. But I do not do that, because guru has > to give you the meditation and I will not approach Narayana Mj. But its nice to think of something while you chant. > > I also highly applaud this idea of Kusha and Gauranga for taped lectures. Have realised the benefit of transcribing when I did a lecture of BV Puri MJ. Also some > lectures of Gaura Govinda Swami are waiting for me. You learn much more while you concentrate and transcribe slowly, than when you just listen. > Regarding the laziness that coud come to some I think that can be counteracted by proper mental attitude. > > Have got a new idea, perhaps you could post these lectures on internet in Rael Audio, and then we could write and listen to them ourselves. > > Those that have a desire. > > yours sisya, > > Zavisa > > > ------ > Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup > Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. > Install today: > http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955377377/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 At 11. 4. 2000 1:15:00, you wrote: >Dear Zavisa, >Jaya Jagannath > > So, you also agree to Vrinda devi's proposal (Vrida devi is our Kusha >Devi..She is the closest we can get to Tulasi in this planet at present in >Human form). I have to agree now. Will speak to Dinanath tomorrow. > > I have not liked the Venus in your chart...SHASTA SUKRA MARANA >KARAKA...BEWARE OF THESE WOMEN..DO NOT GET TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, ELSE I >SHALL BE A WORRIED MAN. Are you aware of the Marana Karaka places of all the >planets? Venus in sixth or Jupiter in third are Marana Karaka. If these >positions come from Arudha Lagna, then it shall be very bad. See the chart >of srila Prabhupada and you will see how he was troubled by his wife. Of >course, he never said anything. However as Lagna Lord, this shall not >prevail, but this is not the case with your chart. Jay Gurudeva, I am not aware of all Maraka Karaka places for the planes. Could you name them? Also Srila Prabhupada's Venus in 6th from AL is neither the lagna lord, nor arudha lagna lord, so I cannot undersatand your statement. Or did you maybe say it only as a principle. What is behind that principle? yours sisya, Zavisa > > Anyway, as a Jyotisha you will help them and that is why you are and >shall continue to be my sisya...this is what I liked about you. You are >caring for others. >Best Wishes >Sanjay Rath > >> >> Jay Jay Sri Jaganatha, >> >> Jupiter Dasa in Kreta Yuga, 5th house. Except for a fack that I've got >tranzit Saturn within 1 degree from that Jupiter things were nice ever since >I got in Jup-Jup >> Prabhupada's Gita, and met devotees in Jup-Sat. So yes overall, I get to >know many different gurus. But in Navamsa it is in 2nd in exchange with 3rd >lor, so I get >> somewhat, in regards to my dharma, lazy sometimes due to that third house >placement in Treta yuga. >> >> Venus antardasa is Kali's kali kali yuga so to speek. In 6th house sign >Taurus of Kali ruling the house of moon all the time brings me in conttact >with mentally >> disturbed women, from those that cannot sleep if they hear something that >disturbes them, to serious cases, like from mental hospital, or cases that >do not want to >> speak with me because I did not save them few files. Laughable. I cannot >say that influences my mind beneficially and brings a lot of tamas. >> In Navamsa it is in >> Jala, Treta in 12th from AK so it did bring me in contact with meditators >on pictures(Venus) that imagine Radha-Krishna lila and chant mantras, with >some effort of >> imagination(Venus). Considering my jup aspect this, in exchange with moon >and mars. Moon could engage the mind in this. But I do not do that, because >guru has >> to give you the meditation and I will not approach Narayana Mj. But its >nice to think of something while you chant. >> >> I also highly applaud this idea of Kusha and Gauranga for taped lectures. >Have realised the benefit of transcribing when I did a lecture of BV Puri >MJ. Also some >> lectures of Gaura Govinda Swami are waiting for me. You learn much more >while you concentrate and transcribe slowly, than when you just listen. >> Regarding the laziness that coud come to some I think that can be >counteracted by proper mental attitude. >> >> Have got a new idea, perhaps you could post these lectures on internet in >Rael Audio, and then we could write and listen to them ourselves. >> >> Those that have a desire. >> >> yours sisya, >> >> Zavisa >> >> >> ------ >> Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup >> Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. >> Install today: >> http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955377377/ >> ------ >> >> HARE RAMA KRISHNA >> >> >> >> > > >------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955396384/ >------ > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Namaste Sanjayji, Releived to have heard that nothing more evil will come to Yugoslavia. I have personally thought the same when looking at chart.Mangal and Chandra are supposed to be good for parakrama when placed in 3.house feom arudha lagna.I've recently heard some alarming messages coming from Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,who didn't like the idea of Nato troops stationed in this territory.He said many years ago that people in former Yugoslavia were bound to lose freedom.That is why he insisted on creating Kavach in Yugoslavia. My chart. I am currently running budh mahadasha and guru antara. Rashi-Budh-prithivi(makar)-Kali, Navamsa-agni(mesh)-Kreta Budh mahadasha has so far been highly mixed,but mostly positive. Could it be by caused by navamsa placement? Budh is also retrograde,Does it reverse effects? Guru is in kanya(prithivi) but in mesh navamsa(treta),so far started badly but now becoming more pleasent/Guru is also retrogarde. Yours Zoran P.S.I wish I could help you out in your financial troubles.The only silly problem is no way to transfer money.Does anybody have a solution? Sanjay Rath wrote: > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi > rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in Kreta > Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some > effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might to > do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for the > signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give > some comments? > > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > > - > Karu <heen > <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> > Cc: Sarat Chander <saratchander > Thursday, April 06, 2000 1705 S Rath > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > > >Dear Karu do not feel sorry for your query or inquisitiveness. Even I > was > > >like that, but slowly I have learnt to be patient and do the readings and > > >take the things gradually as they come and, believe me, they will come. > > >Sanjayji will teach everything gradually and surely. As they come, I > will > > >make the notes for the benefit of all. It is good to be inquisitive but > > >don't take it on the high side to make you feel negative about self and > > >others in life. That was my message and request. > > > > Jaya Jaya Jaganath > > Om Gurave Namah. > > > > Dear Gurudeve Sarath and Sanjay, > > Thank you very much for your kind words in this regards. > > As I said earlier, I would have no doubt again, as I am still with you. > > > > Let us go back to lesson 2 Sarat, I have few things uncleared yet. It was > > clear me before Sudarshan Chakra comes to the mind, but I think I loose > > again. > > > > As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, Chandra > > Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could > not > > see any thing related to lesson 2. > > But, trines can be explained many ways after study lesson 1 & 2, with the > help > > of dasa.html, as SATVA, RAJAS and THAMAS. > > " Nara " according to me is human or animates. It is consist of beginning > and > > end. Also completed with all three guna. To stay in this frame, one must > > have three guna. > > Narayana, not cleared as above. It is consist of Creation, Destroy, and > > Preserve. Still the same Guna. But how it is applicable in to four parts > or > > divided in to four as I can see from quadrants ? > > At last, how I can apply all this to Sudarshan Chakra ? I never learn deep > > aspects or creation of sudarshan Chakra. I was trying to find some thing > > about my question last few days but I think I failed. > > > > Could you please give me some light about this ? > > > > Hare Krishna, > > With Respect, > > Your Sishya > > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Get paid for the stuff you know! > > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955021345/ > > ------ > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955297177/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Dear Sanjay, I have a great fondness for Ganapathi, and have two images of him in my room next to my desk. The humility and lack of arrogance that he imposes has always been very attractive to me. When I was young, I was very attracted to Shiva. At my mother's request that I light the lamp at sunset every day and put fresh water at the shrine, I used to then spend a few moments in meditation, and Shiva and Saraswati were my main focus. It is quite strange, but my mother came from a christian background, and during the time she was married to my father, was far keener on hinduism and knew more about it than my father. So I get my hindu leanings from my christian mother. After they divorced, she became a mormon, though one who believes in karma, which is quite unusual. She has a very interesting chart (scorpio lagna) with almost everything focused on the 5th house which has sun, moon, mars and rahu aspected by jupiter from the 9th and saturn from the 3rd. Actually, despite some of the practical and health problems at present, I feel inwardly quite happy these days, which to some extent surprises me as I am running saturn/venus and saturn is debilitated, transiting natal venus, and aspecting natal moon. In terms of personal contentment, I think saturn dasa has been better than jupiter dasa. Which is very strange given saturn's position in the 4th. Thank you for your suggestions about Ganapathi, I will try to do a daily meditation with him. Best regards Nimmi Ragavan - Sanjay Rath <srath <varahamihira > Monday, April 10, 2000 3:11 PM Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > OM VISHNAVE NAMAH > > Dear Nimmi, > > The best Upaya for planets in Prithvi Rasi is to worship Ganapati the > lord of Prithvi Tatwa. Then the planets in Prithvi rasi start giving > excellent results. Also worship Vishnu ruling the Akash tatwa which > permeates all signs including the Prithvi tatwa. > > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > > - > Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 > <varahamihira > > Monday, April 10, 2000 0112 S Rath > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > I am currently running the dasa of Saturn , antaradasa of Venus > > > > In Rasi and navamsa, Saturn is in Virgo, prithvi rasi, Kali yuga > > In Rasi, Venus is in agni rasi, Kreta yuga > > In Navamsa, Venus is in prithvi rasi, Kali yuga > > > > Regarding tendency to inaction and ease of results: > > > > I agree on the overall tendency to inaction (all dasa periods so far have > > been in prithvi rasis) and to difficulty in achieving results. And Venus > > antaradasa has produced easy results. Each Venus antaradasa has been very > > productive of easy results so far. It is interesting that this is the only > > planet in agni rasi. > > > > Jupiter and rahu were in agni rasi in navamsa. All my major achievements > > were in these two dasas. > > > > I have noticed an increased disinclination to effort in sani dasa, > possibly > > due to the vargottama placement in prithvi. Sani/sani was a difficult > period > > both in tems of effort and results. > > > > - > > Sanjay Rath <srath > > <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> > > Sunday, April 09, 2000 5:15 PM > > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > > > > > Dear Karu, > > Jaya Jagannath > > > > Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels > of > > the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades > all > > these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a > part > > of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is > > present everywhere. > > > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi > > rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in > Kreta > > Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs > some > > effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might > to > > do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > > anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for > the > > signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give > > some comments? > > > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > > > - > > Karu <heen > > <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> > > Cc: Sarat Chander <saratchander > > Thursday, April 06, 2000 1705 S Rath > > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Karu do not feel sorry for your query or inquisitiveness. Even I > > was > > > >like that, but slowly I have learnt to be patient and do the readings > and > > > >take the things gradually as they come and, believe me, they will come. > > > >Sanjayji will teach everything gradually and surely. As they come, I > > will > > > >make the notes for the benefit of all. It is good to be inquisitive > but > > > >don't take it on the high side to make you feel negative about self and > > > >others in life. That was my message and request. > > > > > > Jaya Jaya Jaganath > > > Om Gurave Namah. > > > > > > Dear Gurudeve Sarath and Sanjay, > > > Thank you very much for your kind words in this regards. > > > As I said earlier, I would have no doubt again, as I am still with you. > > > > > > Let us go back to lesson 2 Sarat, I have few things uncleared yet. It > was > > > clear me before Sudarshan Chakra comes to the mind, but I think I loose > > > again. > > > > > > As far as I know, SUDARSHAN CHAKRA is one chart indicating Lagna, > Chandra > > > Lagna, and Surya Lagana. If I stand on north pole of the earth, I could > > not > > > see any thing related to lesson 2. > > > But, trines can be explained many ways after study lesson 1 & 2, with the > > help > > > of dasa.html, as SATVA, RAJAS and THAMAS. > > > " Nara " according to me is human or animates. It is consist of beginning > > and > > > end. Also completed with all three guna. To stay in this frame, one must > > > have three guna. > > > Narayana, not cleared as above. It is consist of Creation, Destroy, and > > > Preserve. Still the same Guna. But how it is applicable in to four > parts > > or > > > divided in to four as I can see from quadrants ? > > > At last, how I can apply all this to Sudarshan Chakra ? I never learn > deep > > > aspects or creation of sudarshan Chakra. I was trying to find some thing > > > about my question last few days but I think I failed. > > > > > > Could you please give me some light about this ? > > > > > > Hare Krishna, > > > With Respect, > > > Your Sishya > > > > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > Get paid for the stuff you know! > > > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > > > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955021345/ > > > ------ > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Get paid for the stuff you know! > > Get answers for the stuff you don't. 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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Om Gurave Namah, Dear Gurudeva Sanjay, Yes, it is true, I had to spend more than a year. Perhaps, you started the list reasontly, while I am busy with other works but I remember I was trying to Join you from long long time. Ofcourse, it was my desire. Other material aspects were not my desires. They were my wife's desires. She was always made troubles to me to buy a house, she wanted a job etc. At last all changed as now. It is wonderful, after I read your mail I checked her chart, she is running Rahu MD which in Leo rasi and Aries D9 !. Both Agni. Sub period lord Sun (98-99) is in Leo again vargottama. Sub period Moon (99-01) Aries in rasi and Sagittaurius in navamsa. Kreta-Kreta. !!! If I understood correctly, the rule must be with DESIRES.! Is " Shiv Pujan " means Offering to Shiva ? Thanks for your advises. Hare Krishna Your Sishya Karu OM VISHNAVE NAMAH Dear Karu, The presence of Jupiter in the ninth in Aquarius is very good for Jyotish and Shiv Pujan also has this combination and is one of my best students. Vayu Rasi gives results to a much lesser extent than Agni or Jala and you will have to make some effort to get the result. Being Jupiter, the results will be good, but not the best. Take for example your joining this list this happened after you made some serious efforts. Others have made much less effort. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Monday, April 10, 2000 1635 S Rath Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > Jaya Jaya Jaganth, > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Gurudev Sanjay, > > > >Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels of > >the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades > all >these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also a > part > >of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is > >present everywhere. > > > I was very fortunate to go local ISKCON movement last night (first time) and > discuss, also buy few books including Bagavad Geeta as it is. I could read > few chapters of " The science of Self Realization " . > > This all clearly showed me the differant between Jeewatma and Paramatma, Sun > as God or King of the planetory Cabinet and how indicate the suprime > consciousness etc. Thanks, it is well cleared. > > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi > >rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in > Kreta > >Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some > >effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might > to > >do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > >anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for > the > >signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give > >some comments? > > > I am running Jupiter MD and Sub from end of 98. Jupiter is in Aquarius, 9th > house with Sun and Venus. Being in a Vayu rasi indicate Dwapara must be bad > time and hard works can be expected. In D9 again Jupiter in Libra still the > same. > > But I wonder, this time was the time so far the best I had. My life changed, > new learning, financial gains, more comfortable life, own a house etc. Only > hard work is I do at the movement is learning Jyotish. God given me the > opportunity to go correct path in this period. > It is not clear with my chart, unless considering transits effect of > Jupiter. Jupiter transits over Aries AGNI rasi. > > Looking for comments. > Hare Krishna > With respect- your Sishya > > Karu > > > > > > ------ > Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup > Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. > Install today: > http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955365004/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > ------ Get paid for the stuff you know! Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955391302/ ------ HARE RAMA KRISHNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 At 11. 4. 2000 1:15:00, you wrote: >Dear Zavisa, >Jaya Jagannath > > So, you also agree to Vrinda devi's proposal (Vrida devi is our Kusha >Devi..She is the closest we can get to Tulasi in this planet at present in >Human form). I have to agree now. Will speak to Dinanath tomorrow. > > I have not liked the Venus in your chart...SHASTA SUKRA MARANA >KARAKA...BEWARE OF THESE WOMEN..DO NOT GET TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, ELSE I >SHALL BE A WORRIED MAN. Are you aware of the Marana Karaka places of all the >planets? Venus in sixth or Jupiter in third are Marana Karaka. If these >positions come from Arudha Lagna, then it shall be very bad. See the chart >of srila Prabhupada and you will see how he was troubled by his wife. Of >course, he never said anything. However as Lagna Lord, this shall not >prevail, but this is not the case with your chart. > Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah What if person has got it as a ruler of lagna naksatra. Lets say if he is Poorvashadha, PurvaPhalguni, or Bharani. Does it influence mental plane then? Zavisa > Anyway, as a Jyotisha you will help them and that is why you are and >shall continue to be my sisya...this is what I liked about you. You are >caring for others. >Best Wishes >Sanjay Rath > >> >> Jay Jay Sri Jaganatha, >> >> Jupiter Dasa in Kreta Yuga, 5th house. Except for a fack that I've got >tranzit Saturn within 1 degree from that Jupiter things were nice ever since >I got in Jup-Jup >> Prabhupada's Gita, and met devotees in Jup-Sat. So yes overall, I get to >know many different gurus. But in Navamsa it is in 2nd in exchange with 3rd >lor, so I get >> somewhat, in regards to my dharma, lazy sometimes due to that third house >placement in Treta yuga. >> >> Venus antardasa is Kali's kali kali yuga so to speek. In 6th house sign >Taurus of Kali ruling the house of moon all the time brings me in conttact >with mentally >> disturbed women, from those that cannot sleep if they hear something that >disturbes them, to serious cases, like from mental hospital, or cases that >do not want to >> speak with me because I did not save them few files. Laughable. I cannot >say that influences my mind beneficially and brings a lot of tamas. >> In Navamsa it is in >> Jala, Treta in 12th from AK so it did bring me in contact with meditators >on pictures(Venus) that imagine Radha-Krishna lila and chant mantras, with >some effort of >> imagination(Venus). Considering my jup aspect this, in exchange with moon >and mars. Moon could engage the mind in this. But I do not do that, because >guru has >> to give you the meditation and I will not approach Narayana Mj. But its >nice to think of something while you chant. >> >> I also highly applaud this idea of Kusha and Gauranga for taped lectures. >Have realised the benefit of transcribing when I did a lecture of BV Puri >MJ. Also some >> lectures of Gaura Govinda Swami are waiting for me. You learn much more >while you concentrate and transcribe slowly, than when you just listen. >> Regarding the laziness that coud come to some I think that can be >counteracted by proper mental attitude. >> >> Have got a new idea, perhaps you could post these lectures on internet in >Rael Audio, and then we could write and listen to them ourselves. >> >> Those that have a desire. >> >> yours sisya, >> >> Zavisa >> >> >> ------ >> Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup >> Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. >> Install today: >> http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955377377/ >> ------ >> >> HARE RAMA KRISHNA >> >> >> >> > > >------ >Get paid for the stuff you know! >Get answers for the stuff you don’t. And get $10 to spend on the site! >http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955396384/ >------ > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Gurudeva, Pranaams. > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and Prithvi > >rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in > Kreta > >Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs some > >effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might > to > >do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > >anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for > the > >signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and give > >some comments? I am running Jupiter Mahadasa and Venus Antardasa from Dec. 1977 to Aug. 2000. Both are in Scorpio, Jala Rasi, Trete Yuga. I had to do some efforts, but the results were excellent: Getting a wife, a house, learning Jyotish and coming in contact with Gurudeva. In Navamsa Jupiter is in Agnitattwa Leo (Krita Yuga) and he gave excellet results in connection with dharma (I became a devotee in 1990, in the beginning of Jupiter's Mahadasa. However, Venus is in Virgo, Prithivi Tattwa and Kali Yuga, so it took quite an effort in her antardasa to upkeep my religious vows. And here comes the surprise: Pratyantar of Mercury was running from the end of January this year and lasts till June. Mercury is in Lagnamsha, which is Taurus (sign of Venus), and Mars Atmakarak is in Gemini. So Taurus with Merc. signifies my Ishta Devata who has come exactly in this period in the form of Salagrama and Giriraja. I hope that the Deities of Gaura Nitai will also come, as Merc. in Taurus would specifically denote Lord Chaitanya, who is Vishnu (Krishna) in the mood of Radha. Alrhough Taurus is Prithivi Tattwa, thus signifying Kali Yuga, Mercury is in Sagittarius in Rasi with the Sun, in the 5th, so this causes very good effects in Mercury's Pratyantar. Please comment, Gurudeva. Your shishya, Gauranga das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 OM VISHNAVE NAMAH Dear Zavisa, My father and a close friend (Who has become a minister in Orissa) has Taurus Lagna with Venus in sixth house. Here the solution lies in strengthening Jupiter. That friend wore a Pokhraj and finally became a Minister. Actually their own Buddhi is their enemy. They make major plans and have to back out in the last minute. They consult an astrologer and in the last minute make changes where they lose out. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Zavisa Nikac <zavisa.nikac <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1827 S Rath Re: Re: Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > At 11. 4. 2000 1:15:00, you wrote: > >Dear Zavisa, > >Jaya Jagannath > > > > So, you also agree to Vrinda devi's proposal (Vrida devi is our Kusha > >Devi..She is the closest we can get to Tulasi in this planet at present in > >Human form). I have to agree now. Will speak to Dinanath tomorrow. > > > > I have not liked the Venus in your chart...SHASTA SUKRA MARANA > >KARAKA...BEWARE OF THESE WOMEN..DO NOT GET TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT, ELSE I > >SHALL BE A WORRIED MAN. Are you aware of the Marana Karaka places of all the > >planets? Venus in sixth or Jupiter in third are Marana Karaka. If these > >positions come from Arudha Lagna, then it shall be very bad. See the chart > >of srila Prabhupada and you will see how he was troubled by his wife. Of > >course, he never said anything. However as Lagna Lord, this shall not > >prevail, but this is not the case with your chart. > > > > Sri Sri Guru Gauranga Jayatah > > What if person has got it as a ruler of lagna naksatra. Lets say if he is Poorvashadha, PurvaPhalguni, or Bharani. Does it influence mental plane then? > > Zavisa > > > Anyway, as a Jyotisha you will help them and that is why you are and > >shall continue to be my sisya...this is what I liked about you. You are > >caring for others. > >Best Wishes > >Sanjay Rath > > > >> > >> Jay Jay Sri Jaganatha, > >> > >> Jupiter Dasa in Kreta Yuga, 5th house. Except for a fack that I've got > >tranzit Saturn within 1 degree from that Jupiter things were nice ever since > >I got in Jup-Jup > >> Prabhupada's Gita, and met devotees in Jup-Sat. So yes overall, I get to > >know many different gurus. But in Navamsa it is in 2nd in exchange with 3rd > >lor, so I get > >> somewhat, in regards to my dharma, lazy sometimes due to that third house > >placement in Treta yuga. > >> > >> Venus antardasa is Kali's kali kali yuga so to speek. In 6th house sign > >Taurus of Kali ruling the house of moon all the time brings me in conttact > >with mentally > >> disturbed women, from those that cannot sleep if they hear something that > >disturbes them, to serious cases, like from mental hospital, or cases that > >do not want to > >> speak with me because I did not save them few files. Laughable. I cannot > >say that influences my mind beneficially and brings a lot of tamas. > >> In Navamsa it is in > >> Jala, Treta in 12th from AK so it did bring me in contact with meditators > >on pictures(Venus) that imagine Radha-Krishna lila and chant mantras, with > >some effort of > >> imagination(Venus). Considering my jup aspect this, in exchange with moon > >and mars. Moon could engage the mind in this. But I do not do that, because > >guru has > >> to give you the meditation and I will not approach Narayana Mj. But its > >nice to think of something while you chant. > >> > >> I also highly applaud this idea of Kusha and Gauranga for taped lectures. > >Have realised the benefit of transcribing when I did a lecture of BV Puri > >MJ. Also some > >> lectures of Gaura Govinda Swami are waiting for me. You learn much more > >while you concentrate and transcribe slowly, than when you just listen. > >> Regarding the laziness that coud come to some I think that can be > >counteracted by proper mental attitude. > >> > >> Have got a new idea, perhaps you could post these lectures on internet in > >Rael Audio, and then we could write and listen to them ourselves. > >> > >> Those that have a desire. > >> > >> yours sisya, > >> > >> Zavisa > >> > >> > >> ------ > >> Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup > >> Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. > >> Install today: > >> http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955377377/ > >> ------ > >> > >> HARE RAMA KRISHNA > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >------ > >Get paid for the stuff you know! > >Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > >http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955396384/ > >------ > > > >HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > You can win $1000! > Time-limited offer. Enter today at: > http://click./1/2864/4/_/2192/_/955454211/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 No, No Shiv Pujan is the name of one of my students out here. See his picture at www.sjvc.net/Jyotish_Class/jyotishs.htm Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - Karu <heen <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1401 S Rath Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > Om Gurave Namah, > Dear Gurudeva Sanjay, > > Yes, it is true, I had to spend more than a year. Perhaps, you started the > list reasontly, while I am busy with other works but I remember I was trying > to Join you from long long time. Ofcourse, it was my desire. > > Other material aspects were not my desires. They were my wife's desires. She > was always made troubles to me to buy a house, she wanted a job etc. At last > all changed as now. > > It is wonderful, after I read your mail I checked her chart, she is running > Rahu MD which in Leo rasi and Aries D9 !. Both Agni. Sub period lord Sun > (98-99) is in Leo again vargottama. Sub period Moon (99-01) Aries in rasi > and Sagittaurius in navamsa. Kreta-Kreta. !!! > > If I understood correctly, the rule must be with DESIRES.! > > Is " Shiv Pujan " means Offering to Shiva ? > > Thanks for your advises. > Hare Krishna > Your Sishya > > Karu > > > OM VISHNAVE NAMAH > > Dear Karu, > The presence of Jupiter in the ninth in Aquarius is very good for > Jyotish and Shiv Pujan also has this combination and is one of my best > students. Vayu Rasi gives results to a much lesser extent than Agni or Jala > and you will have to make some effort to get the result. Being Jupiter, the > results will be good, but not the best. > > Take for example your joining this list this happened after you made > some serious efforts. Others have made much less effort. > > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > > - > Karu <heen > <varahamihira (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> > Monday, April 10, 2000 1635 S Rath > Re: [Jagannath] Lesson 2 > > > > Jaya Jaya Jaganth, > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Gurudev Sanjay, > > > > > > >Draw the sudarshan Chakra of your own horoscope and see the three levels > of > > >the Body, Mind and soul which make up the self and how Narayana pervades > > all >these three as the Bha Chakra itself is Narayana as the Nara is also > a > > part > > >of Vishnu and Bhagavan pervades all bodies like the akash Tatwa that is > > >present everywhere. > > > > > > I was very fortunate to go local ISKCON movement last night (first time) > and > > discuss, also buy few books including Bagavad Geeta as it is. I could read > > few chapters of " The science of Self Realization " . > > > > This all clearly showed me the differant between Jeewatma and Paramatma, > Sun > > as God or King of the planetory Cabinet and how indicate the suprime > > consciousness etc. Thanks, it is well cleared. > > > > > The fourfold division also represents the Agni, Jala, Vayu and > Prithvi > > >rasi and the Yuga Kreta, Treta, Dwapara and Kali respectively. > > > Thus for example you will come across a dictum " If a planet is in > > Kreta > > >Yuga it gives excellent results very easily whereas one in Treta needs > some > > >effort, one in Dwapara will need a lot of the strength like Rudra's might > > to > > >do the work and give results while onee is Kali is most disinclined to do > > >anything and results will be tough to obtain. > > > Now will everybody in this list please check their own horoscope for > > the > > >signs in Rasi & Navamsa occupied by the Dasa and Antardasa planet and > give > > >some comments? > > > > > > I am running Jupiter MD and Sub from end of 98. Jupiter is in Aquarius, > 9th > > house with Sun and Venus. Being in a Vayu rasi indicate Dwapara must be > bad > > time and hard works can be expected. In D9 again Jupiter in Libra still > the > > same. > > > > But I wonder, this time was the time so far the best I had. My life > changed, > > new learning, financial gains, more comfortable life, own a house etc. > Only > > hard work is I do at the movement is learning Jyotish. God given me the > > opportunity to go correct path in this period. > > It is not clear with my chart, unless considering transits effect of > > Jupiter. Jupiter transits over Aries AGNI rasi. > > > > Looking for comments. > > Hare Krishna > > With respect- your Sishya > > > > Karu > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup > > Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. > > Install today: > > http://click./1/2344/4/_/2192/_/955365004/ > > ------ > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955391302/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA ------ > Get paid for the stuff you know! > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/955444781/ > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Jaya Jagannath !!! Dear Chitra, You will have to draw three concentric circles i.e., one overlapping the other. In the inner most circle write out your D1 (Rasi) chart beginning with your Ascendant i.e., Rasi Lagna. The second circle will begin with Chandra Lagna i.e., the Rasi dispositing Chandra will initiate this circle and the Chandra Lagna will be right above the Rasi Lagna. The third or outer circle will begin with Surya Lagna i.e., the Rasi dispositing Surya will initiate this circle and the Surya Lagna will be right above the Chandra Lagna. Thus, the three lagnas, Rasi, Chandra and Surya will all be in one single row. For example. My Ascendant is Gemini with Venus, Mars and Rahu; and Surya & Budh in Leo; Ketu in Dhanu; Shani in Kumbha; Chandra in Mesh and Brihaspati in Vrishabha. Thus my first/innner circle of the Sudarshan will begin from Gemini and the rest of the planets will be marked out as they are. The 2nd/middle circle will begin from Aries as it is Chandra lagna and the rest of the planets will be marked out as they are. The 3rd/outer circle will begin from Simha which houses Surya and Budh and the rest of the planets will be marked out as they are. I hope you understand the drawing of the Sudarshan Chakra. Now, try drawing your Sudarshan Chakra chart and let us know. Regards, Sarat. - Chitra Wijewickrama varahamihira Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:30 PM [Jagannath] Lesson 2 Jaya Jagannath! Could you please explain how to draw the sudarshan chakra. All I know is that you draw 3 circles , inner most one representing soul with Sun as ascendant, middle ring representing mind with Moon as ascendant and outer ring representing the body with ascendant. This wholething represents the Nara, Narayana or Kalapurusha with 12 limbs. What I do not understand is that how do you place the plants in the 12 signs in the 3 rings. I use parashara light and it draws the Sudarshanchakra with the1st house in the West for the innermost ring. 1st house in theEast in the middle ring, and 1st house somewhere else in the 3rd ring.I can not understand how you place the planets in the kalapurusha within each ring. My BPH has nothing on Sudarshana Chakra. I am running Saturn Dasha Rahu antar. Both Saturn and rahu are in Gemini,Vayu rasi in Rasi and that is Dwapara.So I have to work hard to get any results. This Saturn is retrograde. It retrogrades in to prithvi rasi.Does that lesson my work load? In the navamsa this Saturn is vargoththama. So it is still in Dwapara. Rahu in navamsa occupies Sagittarius, an agni rasi. it is in Kreta. How does this position of Rahu affect me as antar? It is contradictory to the rasi charts position . Do I get mixed results or as Saturn is vargoththama, and aspects Rahu, does it negate rahus work. I do work hard .I have to work full time and come home and cook afamily meal and then study astrology. Astrology is hard work and a solace too. Rahu in Sagittarius in navamsa gives me the Guru? or is it streching the imagination? Thank you for the great knowledge you share with us Pranaams Your sishya Chitra HARE RAMA KRISHNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Dear Pearl, I'll reply to the letter later. Try this www.hindunet.org/glossary/ for an online sanskrit dictionary. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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