Guest guest Posted April 2, 2000 Report Share Posted April 2, 2000 Dear Sanjay, I have read all the messages since my email, and now have a better understanding of what is going on. It is almost as if the ritviks have got caught up in the personality of Srila Prabhupada, rather than what he represented. Perhaps it is also their attachment to him personally that they are reluctant to leave behind. This is understandable too, but it doesn't help the ISKON movement. Regards, Nimmi - Sanjay Rath <srath <varahamihira > Sunday, April 02, 2000 2:51 AM [Jagannath] Re: Guru-Sisya > > OM VISHNAVE NAMAH > > Dear Nimmi, > > Every organisation has its " Sani related problems " . This shows up in the > form of loss of faith in the Guru and the methods to redefine the Guru-Sisya > Parampara. Ideally, every Ashram must have ONLY ONE HEAD till his death or > till he decides otherwise. This is strictly followed by the Sankaracharya in > Kanchi and other Ashrama/ Mutt (Spiritual Institutions). > > Every Spiritual organisation has two aspects: (1) The Sun representing > the Administration and (2) Jupiter representing the main line activity of > propagation of spiritual teaching. Problem arises when both these functions > overlap and people fail to distinguish between the two. Srila Prabhupada > established ISKCON and also the GBC to look after its affairs (implying > administrative matters), he also gave the Mahamantra and Spiritual knowledge > (Jupiter) to others for further propagation. The problem that has arisen is > that a group of people calling themselves RITVIKS are defying the Guru's who > have been given the Mahamantra and are duly authorised to pass this on. They > want that Srila alone should be considered the Guru as all learning is from > his books. This is an absurdity as they are actually UNDOING the good work > of Srila and are, in a sence negative to ISKCON. > > This is a narrow and confused view-point and is due to the period of > Saturn in the Chart of ISKCON. Other matters have been discussed with Kusha > Devi and she can add if she desires. > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > > > > - > Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 > <varahamihira > > Saturday, April 01, 2000 3:36 PM > [Jagannath] Re: Guru-Sisya > > > > I am sorry, but what or who are IRM? I tried to read the article on the > net > > but is definitely outside my range of knowledge. > > > > > > - > > Pt Sanjay Rath <guru > > Varaha Mihira Jyotish List <varahamihira > > > Saturday, April 01, 2000 10:31 AM > > [Jagannath] Guru-Sisya > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotisha, > > > Jaya Jagannath. > > > Please read the following link that was posted to me from Calcutta > today. > > > You all have the chart of ISKCON. Can anybody tell me why this is > > happening? > > > It looks like the IRM or IRS is hell bent on starting a system of > > " Ekalavya > > > type sisya " instead of " Arjuna " . I am writing this mail because one day > I > > > too shall pass away and many of you would have become bonafide Jyotisha > > > Guru's. > > > > > > The Mantra can ONLY BE PASSED VERBALLY OR THROUGH A WRITTEN MEDIUM > BY > > > THE ICCHA SHAKTI OF THE GURU. The correct method is verbal receipt. That > > is > > > why we brahmins have to take the Gayatri Mantra from one of our elders > and > > > cannot simply say that we are so advanced that we are receiving this > > > " DIRECTLY " from Maharshi Vishwamitra. > > > > > > I look forward to your comments on the chart of ISKCON. Although the > > > first round has gone in the favor of IRA as some interim order has been > > > passed, the real GBC shall move after Saturn enters Taurus and " JAYA > > > JAGANNATH " will prevail. > > > > > > http://www.irg.zetnet.co.uk/sastric_b.htm > > > > > > Please read the chart and I will comment later. > > > Best Wishes > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > 72% off on Name brand Watches! > > > Come and buy today and get free shipping! > > > http://click./1/2712/4/_/2192/_/954581860/ > > > > > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > > > -- /cal?listname=varahamihira & m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > ------ > > Get paid for the stuff you know! > > Get answers for the stuff you don't. And get $10 to spend on the site! > > http://click./1/2200/4/_/2192/_/954606235/ > > > > -- Talk to your group with your own voice! > > -- /VoiceChatPage?listName=varahamihira & m=1 > > > > > > > > > ------ > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > ------ > Ignorance is the problem. Be part of the solution. Help > us to educate hundreds of thousands of monthly visitors by > joining the discussion at ENN.com. Information is the tool > we use to better our world, share what you know. > http://click./1/2833/4/_/2192/_/954645933/ > > -- Talk to your group with your own voice! > -- /VoiceChatPage?listName=varahamihira & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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