Guest guest Posted November 6, 1999 Report Share Posted November 6, 1999 OM GURAVE NAMAH OM SRI GANESHAYA NAMAH HARE RAMA KRISHNA Dear list members, I've got a couple of question to ask and offer few thoughts. Otherwise I have thrown my modem away more than a year ago and follow the lists from National Library here in Zagreb and that impairs my ability of communication, and I consequently avoid it. So I'll jumble a lot of things in one mail. Sanjay has mentioned that charakarakas refer to soul cleansing, that is atmakaraka purifies the person from his sins from last life, amatyakaraka for sustenance(job).etc. As we know, different gurus in different spiritual processes always say that progress comes simultaneously with destruction of karma. Having that in mind and the fact that the D-9(Navamsa, Dharmamsa) is the main chart for religious processes, being the first(outer) 9thfold(dharmic) division of zodiac. So religious matters are seen from it and taking person's(soul's) karmic cleansing as lagna(AK) within Navamsa and seeing houses in reference to it, then we get that 12th from AK, 12 being last house of moksa houses, is the final ending of karma, that is realization through meditation(dhyana-it always comes that way, we all know that, Krishna is beyond the indriyas etc) of the soul, or realized meditation on the self freed of Karma.(being as already said in 12th form a planet that signifies Karmic purification in a religious chart Navamsa). So it can be seen that way. Any comments? Now, Sanjay somewhere mentioned that 8th(death) from 12th(that is 7th house) is the place of rebirth. Question is: do you see only from AK in D-9? Also other charakarakas than should be looked as karmic cleansing coming from other relatives, and then taking them as lagna in D-9 , 12th would again indicate same things for them. Amatyakaraka refers to job, business, sustenance. Worship(within D-9) of deity in 6th from AmK brings sustenance. Why 6th? It is an Upachaya house, however there are others. Perhaps as Amk is in 8th from it and can get " inheritance " from a deity, spiritually speaking, get a blessing for sustenance? And deity is served(6th) and it can also refer to Karma yoga Amk being the same as Moon that refers to sustaining status and 6th from Amk refers to place where you constantly(AmK=Moon) render service for spiritual uplifment of yourself or masses(It all happening in Dharmamsa), difference lying in combination that ultimately determines whether it'll be simply worshiping the deity for money, doing karma yoga, or nothing at all if there are impairing combinations on it or if it is not really activated outwardly. Bhartrikaraka as devatakaraka. Deity you like " being with " so its like a brother. Sakhyam. In a book of David Frawley 5th is explained as a place of Ishta Devata. Now 5th is PUTRA. That is the child you take care of, feed in different times of day, change clothes, have affection for, etc. Is that not analogous to worshiping a deity in a temple. Same things are being done. Can somebody tell me where would you look for it, in which chart D-1, D-9, D-20 ? Where are temple deities, 5th from 9th perhaps, or is there some other additional way to look for this? Gauranga referred in some mail that he would like to share his jyotish knowledge with bhaktas in a sense that he would advice them which of the 10 deities of Vishnu is feasible for them to worship. I am also interested in that, however I would like to expand it a little bit. How to see silas(salagrama and govardhana), how to see Gauranga, Nityananda, Gaura-Gadadhara, Gopiswara Mahadeva(for example my friend that is currently with Tripurari Maharaja's group has got exalted sun together with Venus in 12th from AK(Rahu) within Navamsa- I suggested him that he worships if he can Gopiswara Mahadeva, yet I don't have the knowledge of other combination for other planets, so if somebody would like me to enlighten me in that regard I would be most grateful). How is tulasi worship seen? To what it refers(5th, 6th from Amk, 12th from AK, BK, or perhaps based on the difference of combinations and corresponding person's " level " he is on in some of these different places? Yet what would be the planet involved for a plant? Lagna being in 12th from AK. 12th is meditation. Signification from lagna being there is that meditation(realization) permeates the body(jivan mukta-nirvikalpa samadhi etc). Also AK refers for soul purification, however conversely towards blessings also(isn't 12th from AK blessing really?) So a person feels as a result of his spiritual practices(12th from AK) that his body(lagna) is being worshiped also along. Any thoughts? Especially about this toughts on jivan-mukta-perhaps there should be a special combination for this or it can simply refer to seeing being worshipped? I only posses Hindu Predictive Astrology, How to judge a Horoscope 1 & 2, Upadesa Sutras, Crux, Kalaprakasika and that's basically it, so I cannot check for these things in different places, and it would be nice for others to hear the answers to these questions, so could somebody answer. Narasimha please? Jay Nitai-Gauranga, Zavisa p.s.s I almost forgot. In 1.2.70. Jaimini mentions that Ketu in 12th or 4th from Karakamsa grants emancipation. Moon(Krishna) or Venus(Radha) in 4th as a part of drig bala indicate the going into the direction of the soul, that is spiritual advancement. Could these things be realized in 4th(representing the heart) from AK. I know what is the siddhanta on these things within Gaudiya radition yet I am not clear how to link that to horoscope. Some thoughts on this? ===== Bid and sell for free at http://auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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