Guest guest Posted September 28, 1999 Report Share Posted September 28, 1999 Dear Gurudev, Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! It is already a week passed since you challenged us with a question regarding 7,8 and 9 planets as the Sthira, Chara and Naisargika karakas respectively. Seems it is above our head or those who know the answer are really humble persons and don't want to show up. I am humbly begging you to please enlighten us on this topic. Your sisyaYasomatinandana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 1999 Report Share Posted September 28, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATHDear Yasomati Nandana, You remembered! Your sincerity is divine. The real reason for my asking questions is that your Dhi Shakti is exercised. It is like doing physical exercises to invigorate the body, these spiritual-jyotish-questions of mine will stir the very base of your thinking and the Dhi Shakti will shine. STHIRA KARAKA There are seven sthira karaka as these Karaka are fixed and do not change at all. They are used for timing the death of self and near and dear ones. Hence the term Sthira is also akin to Death which comes when the Prana's become sthira. Since this is related to the end of the PHYSICAL BODY, only those planets which have physical bodies can be considered. hence ONLY seven planets from Sun to Saturn are considered and Rahu & Ketu are left out. CHARA KARAKA The birth of any being is due to the good or evil we have done in the past birth. Since we have not got Moksha is automatically implied in the fact that we sinners have taken birth. The only difference is in the quantum and the quality of the Sin (Paapa). This is also seen from the Kalachakra where only eight planets from the Sun to Rahu are used leaving out the Mokshakaraka Ketu. This is the fundamental basis of the Hindu religion as the eight Charakaraka are akin to the eight planets in the Kalachakra. The tithi's of the Vedic Month are also based on this eightfold division with the Sun ruling Pratipada & Navami (1 & 9), Moon Dwiteeya and Dasami (2 & 10), Mars Triteeya & ekadasi (3 & 11), and so on. Thus it is evident that the Charakaraka represent the cause of our births and are responsible for our punishment and spiritual growth. The Atmakaraka punishes the native and cleanses him and so on. Thus, there can be ONLY eight Chara Karaka. As regards the deities, the Vahana of the deities are in the seventh from the planets indicating them. Mahavishnu has been kept out of this Kalachakra as He is the only deity who LOVES one and all and transcends this Natural Law of rebirth while the other deities are involved in it. For example, Venus rules the tithi 6 (Snake) & 14 (Bull) and Shiva as Nageswara is worshipped on Shasti (6) and as Sambashiva riding a bull on Chaturdasi (14). Since the Sun is opposite to the Venus, the Sun represents Shiva. Similarly, Moon and Jupiter oppose eachother and Jupiter rules the tithi Panchami and the deity of the Moon is Devi or Shakti and on Panchami we celebrate Saraswati Pooja. In this manner, the deities and the days in which they were worshipped are determined astrologically. NAISARGIKA KARAKA The naisargika Karaka are the natural significators and are used in Phalita Jyotisha. Hence all the nine are used. They represent all creatures and bodies by the interactions of the signs, their divisions and the nine planets. Since they are a part and parcel of the creation of Brahma, they are also analogous to the Movable signs. CORRELATION I leave this correlation to your understanding for now. However, you will recall that I had spoken about Brahma and the Chakra in the sixth house. Now correlate this to the peculiar method of calculating Brahma Dasa from the sixth lord from the Dasa Rasi. In this manner, there must also be OTHER SECRET DASA IN THE REMAINING ADHYAYA OF JAIMINI WHERE THE BLESSINGS OF THE OTHER DEITIES ARE SEEN. Hare KrishnaSanjay Rath - YND Varahamihira Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:34 PM Charakarakas - SOS Dear Gurudev, Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! It is already a week passed since you challenged us with a question regarding 7,8 and 9 planets as the Sthira, Chara and Naisargika karakas respectively. Seems it is above our head or those who know the answer are really humble persons and don't want to show up. I am humbly begging you to please enlighten us on this topic. Your sisyaYasomatinandana das Click Here! eGroups.com home: varahamihirawww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 1999 Report Share Posted September 30, 1999 Namaste Gauranga, > > NAISARGIKA KARAKA > > The naisargika Karaka are the natural significators and are > used in > > Phalita Jyotisha. Hence all the nine are used. They represent all > creatures > > and bodies by the interactions of the signs, their divisions and > the nine > > planets. Since they are a part and parcel of the creation of > Brahma, they > > are also analogous to the Movable signs. > > Ihave a question. What is Phalita Jyotisha? > > You r shishya, > > Gauranga das There are two broad divisions in astrology: (1) analysis of " results " (phalita) when a person is alive (2) analysis of when a person dies and longevity. The former is called Phalita Jyotisha. Sanjay said that sthira karakas are used in longevity matters and naisargika karakas are used in general results. However, I found chara karakas also useful in Phalita Jyotisha. Pratyantardasa or sookshma dasa as per navamsa Narayana dasa at the time of marriage usually belongs to chara dara karaka. So it occurs to me that chara karakas also have use in Phalita Jyotisha. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 1999 Report Share Posted September 30, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Gauranga & Narasimha, That was a broad classification of mine. Look carefully at what fruits the worship of Lord Shiva can give and these matters will be fruitful (Narayana Dasa) in the period of the concerned Chara Karaka. This is the REAL Classification. Hare Krishna Sanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao <pvr <varahamihira > Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:26 AM Re: Charakarakas - SOS > Namaste Gauranga, > > > > NAISARGIKA KARAKA > > > The naisargika Karaka are the natural significators and are > > used in > > > Phalita Jyotisha. Hence all the nine are used. They represent all > > creatures > > > and bodies by the interactions of the signs, their divisions and > > the nine > > > planets. Since they are a part and parcel of the creation of > > Brahma, they > > > are also analogous to the Movable signs. > > > > Ihave a question. What is Phalita Jyotisha? > > > > You r shishya, > > > > Gauranga das > > There are two broad divisions in astrology: (1) analysis of " results " > (phalita) when a person is alive (2) analysis of when a person dies and > longevity. The former is called Phalita Jyotisha. > > Sanjay said that sthira karakas are used in longevity matters and > naisargika karakas are used in general results. > > However, I found chara karakas also useful in Phalita Jyotisha. > Pratyantardasa or sookshma dasa as per navamsa Narayana dasa at the time > of marriage usually belongs to chara dara karaka. So it occurs to me > that chara karakas also have use in Phalita Jyotisha. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > > ------ > OM TAT SAT > Jaya Jagannatha Mahaprabhu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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