Guest guest Posted September 18, 1999 Report Share Posted September 18, 1999 Namaste Gauranga, > I'm not sure about Gjati Karak. Waht would it mean? GC Sahma gives it > a Jaati-karak, meaning the caste significator. Others say Jnaati-karak > - significator fo knowledge. Still others say Gnati -karak, which > would menat hte significator of cousins. Could you please elaborate on > this? " Jnaati " does not mean " knowledge " . The root " jnaa " means " to know " . That's why Mercury is referred to as " jnaha " in astro-literature. The word " jnaana " means " knowledge " . The word " gnaati " can be literally translated as " known one " . The sound " jn " here is tricky. Here j is the normal j, but n is not the normal n as in " man " . It is the anunaasika - nasal - that usually comes before ch and j, as an " anjali " . The sound " jn " is pronounced by some people as " gn " , some people as " gy " and some people as " gny " . Try to get a feel for the nasal between " a " and " j " by pronouncing " anjali " repeatedly and then try to pronounce that nasal just *after* j. You will understand it. The summary is: whether one writes " jnati " or " gnati " , one refers to the same word. They are simply different transliterations of the same word. The word literally means a near relative (typically used for the paternal side). Many astrologers use this karaka as the karaka of 6th. They use this significator to see enemies, accidents, diseases etc (depending on the divisional chart in question). May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 1999 Report Share Posted September 18, 1999 Gauranga, Is it G C Sharma in Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra? That is supposed to be the best!!! I can now understand the collosal work in front of us. Hare Rama Krishna Sanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao <pvr <varahamihira > Saturday, September 18, 1999 7:59 PM Gnati/jnati karaka > Namaste Gauranga, > > > I'm not sure about Gjati Karak. Waht would it mean? GC Sahma gives it > > a Jaati-karak, meaning the caste significator. Others say Jnaati-karak > > - significator fo knowledge. Still others say Gnati -karak, which > > would menat hte significator of cousins. Could you please elaborate on > > this? > > " Jnaati " does not mean " knowledge " . The root " jnaa " means " to know " . > That's why Mercury is referred to as " jnaha " in astro-literature. The > word " jnaana " means " knowledge " . The word " gnaati " can be literally > translated as " known one " . > > The sound " jn " here is tricky. Here j is the normal j, but n is not the > normal n as in " man " . It is the anunaasika - nasal - that usually comes > before ch and j, as an " anjali " . The sound " jn " is pronounced by some > people as " gn " , some people as " gy " and some people as " gny " . Try to get > a feel for the nasal between " a " and " j " by pronouncing " anjali " > repeatedly and then try to pronounce that nasal just *after* j. You will > understand it. > > The summary is: whether one writes " jnati " or " gnati " , one refers to the > same word. They are simply different transliterations of the same word. > The word literally means a near relative (typically used for the > paternal side). > > Many astrologers use this karaka as the karaka of 6th. They use this > significator to see enemies, accidents, diseases etc (depending on the > divisional chart in question). > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > > ------ > 250 FREE HOURS on America Online! America's most popular online > service! Try AOL *risk free* for 250 HOURS! > CLICK HERE http://clickhere./click/912 > > > > eGroups.com home: varahamihira > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 1999 Report Share Posted September 19, 1999 Dear Sanjay Prabhu. Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! >Is it G C Sharma in Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra? That is supposed to be the >best!!! I can now understand the collosal work in front of us. I was just going to ask you, after you complete you next book, to take up a great task of writting a consistent and CONCLUSIVE commentary on BPHS - the one which would contain no 'maybe' and 'perhaps'. I understand that we can never measure the depth of this work but it will be a great contribution to the cause of re-establishing the genuine Jyotish parampara in this confused world. you sisya Yasomatinandana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Share Posted September 21, 1999 Namaste Gauranga, Do You mean to say that Jaati karak as caste significator is a speculation by sharma? I feel all right with the other two however as proprsed by Narasimha Rao Prabhu. Is this Your conclusion as well? I only have Santhanam's version. If G.C. Sharma wrote "jaati karaka", it is either a typo or an inexplicable liberty taken by GC Sharma. I've found a few vague places in CG Sharma's edition. I've heard saying that he isn't a Sanskrit scholar really, so he was presenting the whole work on the basis of some Hindu editions. Is this true? If yes than I'm even more desparately olnging to have Your translations and explanations. I think that Lord Jagannath wants You to take up the job. Have You done a Prashna to find this out? I too join you in impressing on Sanjay the need for a better commentary on BPHS. (Note: I am not using the word "translation". I am using the word "commentary"!) Definitely a more definitive commentary on BPHS is needed. The current translations have too many failings. However, Gauranga, let us not put pressure. There is no hurry. When it is written does not matter in the long run. What matters is the quality of the commentary! Sanjay will continue to produce brilliant books throughout his Mercury dasa. Sometime around 2011-2012, Jupiter antardasa in Mercury's Vimsottari dasa and Pisces antardasa as per Kalachakra dasa will run. A most memorable contribution to the world of astrology will come from Sanjay around that timeframe. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Share Posted September 21, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATHDear Gauranga & Narasimha, You faith can move mountains and I am but a small man. I hope that with the blessings of Sri sri Jagannatha Mahaprabhu i will be able to come out with that commentary. I think it should be in Mercury Dasa Venus Antardasa. Venus is involved in a perfect Tapaswi Yoga in my Navamsa and this should be the time to seek His blessings and work. While the presence of both these planets is a booster in the D-24 for this work, actually I am waiting the Narayana Dasa of the atmakaraka in the 11th house. Hare Rama KrishnaSanjay Rath - Narasimha Rao varahamihira Tuesday, September 21, 1999 7:10 AM Re: Gnati/jnati karaka Namaste Gauranga, Do You mean to say that Jaati karak as caste significator is a speculation by sharma? I feel all right with the other two however as proprsed by Narasimha Rao Prabhu. Is this Your conclusion as well?I only have Santhanam's version. If G.C. Sharma wrote "jaati karaka", it is either a typo or an inexplicable liberty taken by GC Sharma. I've found a few vague places in CG Sharma's edition. I've heard saying that he isn't a Sanskrit scholar really, so he was presenting the whole work on the basis of some Hindu editions. Is this true? If yes than I'm even more desparately olnging to have Your translations and explanations. I think that Lord Jagannath wants You to take up the job. Have You done a Prashna to find this out?I too join you in impressing on Sanjay the need for a better commentary on BPHS. (Note: I am not using the word "translation". I am using the word "commentary"!) Definitely a more definitive commentary on BPHS is needed. The current translations have too many failings. However, Gauranga, let us not put pressure. There is no hurry. When it is written does not matter in the long run. What matters is the quality of the commentary! Sanjay will continue to produce brilliant books throughout his Mercury dasa. Sometime around 2011-2012, Jupiter antardasa in Mercury's Vimsottari dasa and Pisces antardasa as per Kalachakra dasa will run. A most memorable contribution to the world of astrology will come from Sanjay around that timeframe. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Click Here! eGroups.com home: varahamihirawww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Share Posted September 21, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Gauranga, Yes of course Narasimha is right. This is really shocking. Everybody knows that this is GNAATI KARAKA. Normally the dasa of this planet is most beneficial. See the chart of Hitler to understand the effect of the chara karaka i.e. Atma & Gnaati Karaka. Hare Rama Krishna Sanjay Rath - Gauranga Das <gauranga Varahamihira <varahamihira > Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:44 AM Re: Gnati/jnati karaka > ---------- > > Gauranga, > > Is it G C Sharma in Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra? That is supposed to be the > > best!!! I can now understand the collosal work in front of us. > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Sanjay Rath > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Sanjay Prabhu, > > Pranams. > > Do You mean to say that Jaati karak as caste significator is a speculation by sharma? I feel all right with the other two however as proprsed by Narasimha Rao Prabhu. Is this Your conclusion as well? > > I've found a few vague places in CG Sharma's edition. I've heard saying that he isn't a Sanskrit scholar really, so he was presenting the whole work on the basis of some Hindu editions. Is this true? If yes than I'm even more desparately olnging to have Your translations and explanations. I think that Lord Jagannath wants You to take up the job. Have You done a Prashna to find this out? > > Your shishya, > > Gauranga das > > > > > > ------ > > eGroups.com home: varahamihira > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 1999 Report Share Posted September 22, 1999 Dear Gurudev, Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! You faith can move mountains and I am but a small man. I hope that with the blessings of Sri sri Jagannatha Mahaprabhu i will be able to come out with that commentary. I think it should be in Mercury Dasa Venus Antardasa. Venus is involved in a perfect Tapaswi Yoga in my Navamsa and this should be the time to seek His blessings and work. While the presence of both these planets is a booster in the D-24 for this work, actually I am waiting the Narayana Dasa of the atmakaraka in the 11th house. Very good news! I pray to Lord Sri Krishna it will come true. It will be tremendous contribution. BTW may I ask you a question. Why Venus in 1st or 5th from Swamsa also forms Tapaswi-yoga jist like Ketu. Why does it give an ascetic here? What is included in Tapaswi in this context and why? your sisya YND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 1999 Report Share Posted September 22, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATHDear YND, Ketu alone cannot give the Tapaswi Yoga. All three of saturn, venus and Ketu are required for a good tapaswi. If only Saturn and Ketu are there, then the person will only wear the garb of a tapaswi and will not be sincere. Thus Venus gives sincerity, whether it be a love affair or love for God & Moksha (Venus+Ketu) or love for austerities (Venus+Saturn). The person is genuine. (Jaimini Sutra). Hare Rama KrishnaSanjay Rath - YND varahamihira Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:12 PM Re: Gnati/jnati karaka Dear Gurudev, Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! You faith can move mountains and I am but a small man. I hope that with the blessings of Sri sri Jagannatha Mahaprabhu i will be able to come out with that commentary. I think it should be in Mercury Dasa Venus Antardasa. Venus is involved in a perfect Tapaswi Yoga in my Navamsa and this should be the time to seek His blessings and work. While the presence of both these planets is a booster in the D-24 for this work, actually I am waiting the Narayana Dasa of the atmakaraka in the 11th house. Very good news! I pray to Lord Sri Krishna it will come true. It will be tremendous contribution. BTW may I ask you a question. Why Venus in 1st or 5th from Swamsa also forms Tapaswi-yoga jist like Ketu. Why does it give an ascetic here? What is included in Tapaswi in this context and why? your sisya YND Click Here! eGroups.com home: varahamihirawww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 1999 Report Share Posted September 23, 1999 Dear Sanjay Prabhu,. Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! Ketu alone cannot give the Tapaswi Yoga. All three of saturn, venus and Ketu are required for a good tapaswi. If only Saturn and Ketu are there, then the person will only wear the garb of a tapaswi and will not be sincere. Thus Venus gives sincerity, whether it be a love affair or love for God & Moksha (Venus+Ketu) or love for austerities (Venus+Saturn). The person is genuine. (Jaimini Sutra). Hare Rama KrishnaSanjay Rath YND: So, in your Navamsa, Venus is in the Ascendant, and Saturn is AK itself apected by Ketu. In mine Venus is in Navamsa Ascendant, Ketu - in the 5th from it. Saturn aspects it and is also in the 5th from Karakamsa. So it is no obstacle for Tapaswi Yoga that some of the factors are from N Lagna, and some - from Karakamsa? your sisya Yasomatinandana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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