John Travolta loses his son-To Zoran

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Respected Colleagues,

We have not discussed this topic much. It probably ended up in a

mistaken time of birth. Quite possible.

Indian astrologists have long believed the scrutiny of charts from

moon ascendant as more important than seen from rasi lagna. If we do

that in this case, the event is nearer to reality. The fifth house

fulfils its signification of fame for the actor, and at the same time

with lordship of Jupiter bodes ill for the progeny. And then Rahu's

placement in 5th and strong Saturn's aspect, both contribute to this

tragedy.Further the event also took place in fifth lord's MD.

I am trying to see the chart from the most elementary principles,

since in my opinion a tragedy like this should show up visibly in

John's chart

Your valuable comments please.

Pran Razdan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14

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> Wow, that was something I surely missed! Terrific Rafal.

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> --- On Tue, 6/1/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

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> Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: John Travolta loses his son-To

Zoran

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> Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 4:46 PM

om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

> Dear  Members ,

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> 1. For male & even lagna child house is ninth bhava.

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> 2. Cancer is utpata rasi for Thursday and it has A9!

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> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dear Zoran,

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> 4.SHani is further " bija " or the seed of the 5th house (count from

> Rashi placement of Shani till navamsa placement of Shani and you

> will get 5th house)

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> [Karu Heenkenda]

> Would you kindly explain this bit more ? What is that really

means ? Lets

> say another few planets are in 5th navamsa of the rasi, Like Aries-

Leo or

> Gemini-Libra etc, all those planets become " seed " for 5th house ?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Karu

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> 5.Now Guru has graha dristi on Mangal. Normally we would ask why

> Guru did not protect. Guru rules 6th house as well and being in

even

> sign he will promote more the odd sign which is 6th house. So As

6th

> lord in 11th house, it is a standard combination for sickness of a

> child. Guru is exalted in Navamsa yet, he is in Badhak. That

> indicates that Guru wanted to prevent death and protect the child,

> however due to the badhak, John must have not probably listened or

> ignored some very good and helping advice.Guru is sthira karaka for

> Children, and is strong however afflicted by Mandi.

> 6. There is Charakaraka replacment involving Putrakaraka, and the

> previous Putra SHula dasha was dasha of Rudra for children, yet due

> to Guru infelunce the child survived

> 7. Now, THE MOST IMPORTANT INDICATOR is Saptamsa. Lagnesha in 5th

> house indicates loss of a child. 5th lord is Budha and is placed in

> 6th house which is usual combination for death of a child. Here,

> Mangal is conjoined which is the 5th lord from Rashi chart. The

> dispositor of Budha as 5th lord is Chandra in 11th house which

> confirms the loss. Normally, the son who is indicated by Budha

> conjoined neecha Mangal would have had a serious heart failure

> (Chandra and Ketu Yoga in 11th).Further Guru is in Marana Karak

> Stana in this chart as Shubapati. Guru dasha started and marana

> karaka stana operated, in Rashi, Guru is in badhak and its

> dispositor is in 8th house of Both Rashi and Navamsa. IN navamsa

> Chart Guru is in 12th house, and shukra as PK is in Marana Karaka

> stana. So, as far as I am concerned, the event is unfortunatelly

> clear. Normally, I usually advise people having such combiantion in

> Saptamsa not to have children.

> Hope this has helped.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

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> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

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> > Dear Colleagues,

> > Here is one more instance where Vedic Astrology eludes us

> sometimes.

> >

> > John Travolta (DOB Feb. 18, 1954, TOB 14:53 POB Englewood

> > Cliffs,NJ,USA) lost his son from a fall in his bath room after a

> > seizure. John's chart shows little evidence of this event in his

> birth

> > chart. Mars the Yogkaraka for Moon ascendant is in his own house

> in

> > fifth. Jupiter the lord of ninth house aspects this house,

> something

> > that should have ironicaly given him a promising son.

> >

> > I wonder if afflicted Mars in his Saptamsa has any link with this

> > tragedy which incidentally happened in Jupiter dasa.

> >

> > Could gurus throw some light.

> >

> > Pran Razdan

> >

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