Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Namskar Sharad I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father but she will stay with her mother.. regard2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap Dear Members,Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whose parents are v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parents would have been better to study the prospects of them getting united/divorced, but because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, can this chart be used for prediction ? Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India. RegardsSharad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Dear Amit-ji, Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction? Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but in D-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2nd house. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the event a divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from the daughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ??? Regards Sharad , " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: > > Namskar Sharad > > > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father but she will > stay with her mother.. > > > regard > > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap > > > Dear Members, > > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whose parents are > > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parents would have > > been better to study the prospects of them getting united/divorced, but > > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, can this chart > > be used for prediction ? > > > > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India. > > > > Regards > > Sharad > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Namskar sharad let us start from the rashi chart first.. than for division chart then chk Al with sun in badhka sthana the 9th there from magal in own sign in mks along joining moon.. it shows the phyiscal father life is ok but she has to go away from father being sun in AL where as she will remain with mother being moon placement kendra from the lagna..d-12 doznt promise separation before her birth this is sure.. this is late night now will continue if still not cleared.. regardAmit puri2009/1/5 sharadsap <sharadsap Dear Amit-ji, Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction? Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but in D-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2nd house. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the event a divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from the daughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ??? Regards Sharad , " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: > > Namskar Sharad > > > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father but she will > stay with her mother.. > > > regard > > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap > > > Dear Members, > > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whose parents are > > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parents would have > > been better to study the prospects of them getting united/divorced, but > > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, can this chart > > be used for prediction ? > > > > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India. > > > > Regards > > Sharad > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Om Gurave Namah Dear Amit, Namaste As I remember, debilitated or exalted Sy on AL can lead to separation between native and parents (both). Right? This Surya is in own sign, on AL and on A9. It doesn't appear as separation... Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of her parents' marriage ?? Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:38 AM Namskar sharad let us start from the rashi chart first.. than for division chart then chk Al with sun in badhka sthana the 9th there from magal in own sign in mks along joining moon.. it shows the phyiscal father life is ok but she has to go away from father being sun in AL where as she will remain with mother being moon placement kendra from the lagna..d-12 doznt promise separation before her birth this is sure.. this is late night now will continue if still not cleared..regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 sharadsap <sharadsap (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Dear Amit-ji,Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction?Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but inD-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2ndhouse. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the eventa divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from thedaughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ???RegardsSharad, "Amit Puri" <amitpuri20@. ..> wrote:>> Namskar Sharad> > > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father butshe will> stay with her mother..> > > regard> > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap@.. .>> > > Dear Members,> > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whoseparents are> > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parentswould have> > been better to study the prospects of them gettingunited/divorced, but> > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, canthis chart> > be used for prediction ?> >> > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India.> >> > Regards> > Sharad> >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Dear maja and sharard namskar you are right maja that surya in own rashi but i think surya was in mesha ,exalted and digbala on Arudha lagna in the chart of lord shri rama .. Sharad if you are sure for d-12 lagna then the badhka which is 9th lord along with mars in the second bahva from lagna....i dont rembere the reference in case where second house having malefic planets can lead to abandon by parents In this case 9th lord (father) which is badhka placed here ...where as booth the 4th lord ( Rahu and shani )mother) from d-12 lagna holding lagna against surya you can say his father (karka) and second lagna lord ketu is in venus sign which 12th lord (9th from the 4th house) i.e maternal house.. .... now this shani and rahu are 4th lord in the rashi also which is placed in 4th from chander.. so i think let the mother lead for now to take care of her babby.. i dont deny complete denial of father rule in her life.. maja what do you think.. regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro Om Gurave Namah Dear Amit, Namaste As I remember, debilitated or exalted Sy on AL can lead to separation between native and parents (both). Right? This Surya is in own sign, on AL and on A9. It doesn't appear as separation... Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of her parents' marriage ?? Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:38 AM Namskar sharad let us start from the rashi chart first.. than for division chart then chk Al with sun in badhka sthana the 9th there from magal in own sign in mks along joining moon.. it shows the phyiscal father life is ok but she has to go away from father being sun in AL where as she will remain with mother being moon placement kendra from the lagna..d-12 doznt promise separation before her birth this is sure.. this is late night now will continue if still not cleared.. regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 sharadsap <sharadsap (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Dear Amit-ji,Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction?Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but inD-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2nd house. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the eventa divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from thedaughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ??? RegardsSharad, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20@. ..> wrote: >> Namskar Sharad> > > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father butshe will> stay with her mother..> > > regard> > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap@.. .>> > > Dear Members,> > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whoseparents are> > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parents would have> > been better to study the prospects of them gettingunited/divorced, but> > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, canthis chart> > be used for prediction ? > >> > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India.> >> > Regards> > Sharad> >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Dear Maja and Amit-ji, Let me first clarify that the divorce hasnt yet taken place. The parents have been living separately for almost 2 months now, and because the mother's birth time is not certain (father's time is available), so my original question was how do we use the daughter's chart to ascertain if the possibility of a divorce of her parents can be read from her chart. Secondly, I am not sure about D-12, because it changes at 37 seconds, and even though the time was recorded at the hospital, a variation of a minute or two cannot be ruled out. But in Rasi, if 12th from AL indicates what the native rejects, then in the daughter's case it houses the lord of the 4th house (saturn) and the 9th house(budh) - which I think are forming a powerful Raja-yoga. The father's details are 27th May, 1975, Hyderabad, 00:05pm. Kumbha is the Lagna and the UL is in the 10th house with a debilitated Rahu. The second from UL is Dhanu(11th house), the lord of which is in its own house in Meena rasi (2nd house). The 2nd from UL is therefore strong, but it has Moon in it which suffers from Gandanta Moola dosham. And the problem started during Moon antardasha - Moon mahadasha. The AL is 12th from the UL - does this indicate the native will be rejected by his wife? Or will the might Jupiter grant longevity to the marriage. Also Ma/Sa in 1/7 axis of the father's D9 indicates mental illness for the native's wife ??? Many thanks for your interest in this Prasna ! Kind regards Sharad , " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20 wrote: > > Dear maja and sharard namskar > > you are right maja that surya in own rashi but i think surya was in mesha > ,exalted and digbala on Arudha lagna in the chart of lord shri rama .. > > Sharad > > if you are sure for d-12 lagna then the badhka which is 9th lord along with > mars in the second bahva from lagna....i dont rembere the reference in case > where second house having malefic planets can lead to abandon by parents > In this case 9th lord (father) which is badhka placed here ... > > where as booth the 4th lord ( Rahu and shani )mother) from d-12 lagna > holding lagna against surya you can say his father (karka) and second lagna > lord ketu is in venus sign which 12th lord (9th from the 4th house) i.e > maternal house.. > > ... now this shani and rahu are 4th lord in the rashi also which is > placed in 4th from chander.. so i think let the mother lead for now to take > care of her babby.. i dont deny complete denial of father rule in her life.. > > maja what do you think.. > > > regard > Amit puri 2009/1/5 Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Amit, Namaste > > > > As I remember, debilitated or exalted Sy on AL can lead to separation > > between native and parents (both). Right? This Surya is in own sign, on AL > > and on A9. It doesn't appear as separation... > > > > Warm Regards, > > Maja Strbac > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20* wrote: > > > > > > Amit Puri <amitpuri20 > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of > > her parents' marriage ?? > > > > Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:38 AM > > > > > > Namskar sharad > > > > let us start from the rashi chart first.. than for division chart then chk > > Al with sun in badhka sthana the 9th there from magal in own sign in mks > > along joining moon.. it shows the phyiscal father life is ok but she has to > > go away from father being sun in AL where as she will remain with mother > > being moon placement kendra from the lagna..d-12 doznt promise separation > > before her birth this is sure.. this is late night now will continue if > > still not cleared.. > > > > regard > > > > Amit puri > > > > 2009/1/5 sharadsap <sharadsap (AT) (DOT) co.uk<http://us.mc01g.mail./mc/compose?to=sharadsap > > > > > > >> Dear Amit-ji, > >> Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction? > >> > >> Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but in > >> D-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2nd > >> house. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the event > >> a divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from the > >> daughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ??? > >> > >> Regards > >> Sharad > >> > >> @ . com<http://us.mc01g.mail./mc/compose?to=%40>\ , > >> " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20@ ..> wrote: > >> > > >> > Namskar Sharad > >> > > >> > > >> > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father but > >> she will > >> > stay with her mother.. > >> > > >> > > >> > regard > >> > > >> > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap@ .> > >> > > >> > > Dear Members, > >> > > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whose > >> parents are > >> > > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parents > >> would have > >> > > been better to study the prospects of them getting > >> united/divorced, but > >> > > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, can > >> this chart > >> > > be used for prediction ? > >> > > > >> > > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India. > >> > > > >> > > Regards > >> > > Sharad > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Om Gurave Namah Dear Amit, Namaste Can you, please give me a day or two? My connection is dead at the moment so this is temporary solution for web access (no JH soft. here ((( I would love to check this chart in more details and try sharing something if it can be of some use. Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of her parents' marriage ?? Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:24 PM Dear maja and sharard namskar you are right maja that surya in own rashi but i think surya was in mesha ,exalted and digbala on Arudha lagna in the chart of lord shri rama ..Sharad if you are sure for d-12 lagna then the badhka which is 9th lord along with mars in the second bahva from lagna....i dont rembere the reference in case where second house having malefic planets can lead to abandon by parents In this case 9th lord (father) which is badhka placed here ...where as booth the 4th lord ( Rahu and shani )mother) from d-12 lagna holding lagna against surya you can say his father (karka) and second lagna lord ketu is in venus sign which 12th lord (9th from the 4th house) i.e maternal house..... now this shani and rahu are 4th lord in the rashi also which is placed in 4th from chander.. so i think let the mother lead for now to take care of her babby.. i dont deny complete denial of father rule in her life..maja what do you think..regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > Om Gurave Namah Dear Amit, Namaste As I remember, debilitated or exalted Sy on AL can lead to separation between native and parents (both). Right? This Surya is in own sign, on AL and on A9. It doesn't appear as separation.. . Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of her parents' marriage ??Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:38 AM Namskar sharad let us start from the rashi chart first.. than for division chart then chk Al with sun in badhka sthana the 9th there from magal in own sign in mks along joining moon.. it shows the phyiscal father life is ok but she has to go away from father being sun in AL where as she will remain with mother being moon placement kendra from the lagna..d-12 doznt promise separation before her birth this is sure.. this is late night now will continue if still not cleared..regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 sharadsap <sharadsap (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Dear Amit-ji,Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction?Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but inD-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2ndhouse. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the eventa divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from thedaughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ???RegardsSharad, "Amit Puri" <amitpuri20@. ..> wrote:>> Namskar Sharad> > > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father butshe will> stay with her mother..> > > regard> > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap@.. .>> > > Dear Members,> > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whoseparents are> > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parentswould have> > been better to study the prospects of them gettingunited/divorced, but> > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, canthis chart> > be used for prediction ?> >> > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India.> >> > Regards> > Sharad> >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Namskar any time...2009/1/7 Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro Om Gurave Namah Dear Amit, Namaste Can you, please give me a day or two? My connection is dead at the moment so this is temporary solution for web access (no JH soft. here ((( I would love to check this chart in more details and try sharing something if it can be of some use. Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of her parents' marriage ?? Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:24 PM Dear maja and sharard namskar you are right maja that surya in own rashi but i think surya was in mesha ,exalted and digbala on Arudha lagna in the chart of lord shri rama .. Sharad if you are sure for d-12 lagna then the badhka which is 9th lord along with mars in the second bahva from lagna....i dont rembere the reference in case where second house having malefic planets can lead to abandon by parents In this case 9th lord (father) which is badhka placed here ...where as booth the 4th lord ( Rahu and shani )mother) from d-12 lagna holding lagna against surya you can say his father (karka) and second lagna lord ketu is in venus sign which 12th lord (9th from the 4th house) i.e maternal house.. .... now this shani and rahu are 4th lord in the rashi also which is placed in 4th from chander.. so i think let the mother lead for now to take care of her babby.. i dont deny complete denial of father rule in her life.. maja what do you think.. regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ > Om Gurave Namah Dear Amit, Namaste As I remember, debilitated or exalted Sy on AL can lead to separation between native and parents (both). Right? This Surya is in own sign, on AL and on A9. It doesn't appear as separation.. . Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Mon, 1/5/09, Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Amit Puri <amitpuri20 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Daughter's chart to predict the longevity of her parents' marriage ?? Monday, January 5, 2009, 8:38 AM Namskar sharad let us start from the rashi chart first.. than for division chart then chk Al with sun in badhka sthana the 9th there from magal in own sign in mks along joining moon.. it shows the phyiscal father life is ok but she has to go away from father being sun in AL where as she will remain with mother being moon placement kendra from the lagna..d-12 doznt promise separation before her birth this is sure.. this is late night now will continue if still not cleared.. regardAmit puri 2009/1/5 sharadsap <sharadsap (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Dear Amit-ji,Can you throw some light on your reasoning behind the prediction?Am a novice, so my reasoning could be completely offtrack - but inD-12, the 9th lord (moon) is along with the lagnesh (mars) in the 2nd house. Also, the PitruKaraka Venus is exalted in D12. So in the eventa divorce happens (which I am still unsure of how to deduce from thedaughter's chart) the daughter is likely to stay with her father ??? RegardsSharad, " Amit Puri " <amitpuri20@. ..> wrote: >> Namskar Sharad> > > I am sorry to say but the girl has to go away from his father butshe will> stay with her mother..> > > regard> > 2009/1/4 Sharad Agarwal <sharadsap@.. .> > > > Dear Members,> > Following are the birth particulars of a 3 year old girl, whoseparents are> > v close to getting divorced. Ofcourse, the chart of the parentswould have> > been better to study the prospects of them getting united/divorced, but> > because the particulars of the girl's mother are not correct, canthis chart> > be used for prediction ?> >> > Daughter - 25th Aug 2005, Time: 10-03am, Hyderabad, India. > >> > Regards> > Sharad> >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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