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visti jithanks a lot--- On Wed, 17/12/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 5:11 PM

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Manoj, Namaskar.

Your assesment is correct.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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manoj sharma skrev:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jai maa

 

Respected Visti ji

 

pranam

 

Guru ji in your writup you said if the parivartana between 6th &

9th lord happens then the gem of 6th lord will be helpful. in my chart

i have 2 parivartana,

1. lagnesh Bu with 11th lord Ma (also 6th lord)

2. 9th lord Sa with 2nd Lord Ch.

 

this means if i want to improve my health, then i have to wear Moonga

& for luck i have to wear Moti.

 

my dob is 23 apr 1976, 09:35 am Ludhiana (Punjab) india.

 

thanks

 

--- On Wed, 17/12/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal

charts ?

 

Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 12:14 AM

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Maja, Namaskar.

Again Gunachakra. Sun, Moon and Jupiter are sattvic hence their

gemstones are used to establish sattva in the ninth house.

 

 

 

Remedy->

 

Sun (padmaraga)

 

Moon (mukta)

 

Jupiter (pushparaga)

 

 

 

Malefic in ninth->

 

Saturn

 

Mars

 

Rahu (or Ketu)

 

 

 

 

The given table shows the link. With Ketu in ninth we can however

settle with wearing a Gold ring on the right hand ring finger. In all

cases the remedy graha is worn on the right hand ring finger.

Hope this clarifies.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Maja Å trbac skrev:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

 

I was wondering about this:

 

Malefics placed in

the ninth

house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised.

 

Can you

please explain this "reversal"? Because I can catch up with Rahu/Guru

and Sani/Surya pairs if we are using opposite directions for Grahas in

Digchakra, but I can not fit remaining pair Chandra/Mangal in any way

to this same logic.

 

 

What is the principle

that we are using here in first place?

 

 

Warm

Regards,

Maja

Strbac

 

Hari Om

Tat Sat

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal

charts ?

 

Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one

learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to

share.

I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will

be republished on my website for reference):

 

The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of

Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to

advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them

to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect

the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body, hence one should advise these wisely.

Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean

gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is

derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or

riches. (Monier-Williams)

 

The word ratna

specifically

refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la

(clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidūrya (cats eye),

vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the

word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has

been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta,

2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga

can be regarded as equal to the indranīla

(sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la

(Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be

regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence,

whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranīla the

colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of

wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana

in this regard.

 

The Deva are supposed to

reside in the

particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in

it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

 

RatnakÄraka

Ratna comes under the various

metals

known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among

them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn

over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the

rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and

divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the

most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the

Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the

Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones.

Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it.

Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used

to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

The Moon signifying all

gemstones is

also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna

or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis

other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other

purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained further below.

Which finger to wear the

gemstone on can

be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The

four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for

the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The

following table has been culled out of the same work.

Table 2: Finger

and Ratna (Rath)

 

 

 

 

Ratna

 

 

Finger

 

 

 

 

Ruby

 

 

Ring (3rd

from index)

 

 

 

 

Pearl

 

 

Ring or Little finger (3rd

or 4th from index)

 

 

 

 

Coral

 

 

Middle or ring finger (2nd

or 3rd from index)

 

 

 

 

Emerald

 

 

Middle or little fingers

(2nd

or 4th from index)

 

 

 

 

Yellow Topaz/Yellow

Sapphire

 

 

Ring (3rd

from index)

 

 

 

 

Diamond

 

 

Ring (3rd

from index)

 

 

 

 

Blue Sapphire

 

 

Middle or little finger

(2nd

or 4th from index)

 

 

 

 

Hessonite

 

 

Middle or little finger

(2nd

or 4th from index)

 

 

 

 

Cats eye

 

 

Middle or ring finger (2nd

or 3rd from index)

 

 

 

 

 

Garuda Purana states that

gemstones can

do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or

pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear

a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of

gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given

in Garuda Purana.

Table 3: Ratna

and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

 

Ratna

 

 

Translation

 

 

 

 

Sun

 

 

PadmarÄga

 

 

Ruby

 

 

 

 

Moon

 

 

Mukta

 

 

Pearl

 

 

 

 

Mars

 

 

Vidruma

 

 

Coral

 

 

 

 

Mercury

 

 

Marakata

 

 

Emerald

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

PushparÄga

 

 

Yellow Topaz

 

 

 

 

Venus

 

 

Vajra

 

 

Diamond

 

 

 

 

Saturn

 

 

Indranīla

 

 

Blue Sapphire

 

 

 

 

Rahu

 

 

Gomeda

 

 

Hessonite

 

 

 

 

Ketu

 

 

Vaidūrya

 

 

Cats eye

 

 

 

 

 

Tradition is everything when

it comes to

applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have

gathered from my teacher.

Ratna should be advised based

on the

first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are

the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of

life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth

protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and

hence the native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone

for disease in particular parts of the body.

Malefics placed in the ninth

house cause

misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised.

 

 

 

 

 

Graha in 9th

 

 

Gemstone advised

 

 

 

 

Saturn

 

 

Ruby (pink ruby for

ladies)

 

 

 

 

Rähu

 

 

Yellow Sapphire or

Yellow Topaz

 

 

 

 

Ketu

 

 

Gold ring

 

 

 

 

Mars

 

 

Pearl

 

 

 

 

Gemstones of the

sixth,

eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife,

disease and loss respectively and should not be worn.

To both the above there are

exceptions

which occur on account of Yoga.

 

 

Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

The graha give their effects

by

affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma,

artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth

pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the

gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

Similarly when a graha is yuti

another

graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which

three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the

two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined

Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should

Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and

further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after

being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’

dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the

moksha-ayana (watery).

If three or more graha join

then the

interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and

Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will

interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange

results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas.

The two remaining Sambandha,

viz.

Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this

purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana

of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events.

VÄrachakra

Table 4:

Varachakra

 

 

 

 

#

 

 

Graha

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

Sun

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

Moon

 

 

 

 

3

 

 

Mars

 

 

 

 

4

 

 

Mercury

 

 

 

 

5

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

 

 

6

 

 

Venus

 

 

 

 

7

 

 

Saturn

 

 

 

 

8

 

 

Rähu

 

 

 

 

9

 

 

Ketu

 

 

 

 

 

In some cases the gemstones of

the

sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are

causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another

graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given

the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth

and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native

was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on

account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies

the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th

in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the

order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha

from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native

will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of

the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars

is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter

will be hampered.

The Varachakra has many uses

in matters

of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu

Sutras.

 

 

 

 

Gunachakra

Table 1:

Gunachakra

 

 

 

 

#

 

 

Graha

 

 

Guna

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

Sun

 

 

Satva

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

Moon

 

 

 

 

3

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

 

 

4

 

 

Rähu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

 

 

Mercury

 

 

Rajas

 

 

 

 

6

 

 

Venus

 

 

 

 

7

 

 

Ketu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8

 

 

Saturn

 

 

Tamas

 

 

 

 

9

 

 

Mars

 

 

 

 

 

Gunachakra is applied somewhat

differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can

choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh

graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha

from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to

remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya

mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as

Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter

is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas.

Should a graha already be

blocking the

native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha)

is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in

Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of

wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be

deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nīcha bhanga then a

Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon

in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this

regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this

is what I have to share.

 

 

 

 

 

Somanatha Drekkana

Having ascertained the

gemstone as per

the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana.

Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the

body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the

sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner.

Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar

fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising

the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and

advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the

lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this

advice intelligently.

 

 

Hope this helps to share

insight.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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chandan486 skrev:

 

 

||aum namah shivaya||

 

dear visti,

namaste.

 

Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu

Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is

mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real

parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!

 

however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction

actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do

they give each others effects in the dasha ?

 

and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does

parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then

whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

 

humble regards,

Chandan S sabarwal.

 

@

. com, Visti Larsen <visti

wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but

through his

> third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was

not

> until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out

clearly

> that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect

advise...

> Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can

> astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a

> remedial measure?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> www: http://srigaruda. com

> @: visti

>

> Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >

> > dear swee and visti,

> > namaste !

> >

> > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also

being

> > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually

came

came

> > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and

associates

> > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the

briefcase ,

in

> > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> >

> > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being

advised to

worn

> > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House

,

merc

> > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory

behind

> > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your

website

where

> > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange

of

houses

> > and not simply conj....

> >

> > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but

actual

> > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi /

Dasamasa !

> >

> > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon

 

rasi and

> > not even consider damasa , especially when career is

concerend ?

> > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case ,

 

somehow

> > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he

should

have

> > worn and not the red coral ...

> >

> > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once

again

emerald.

> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad

swee

bought

> > it up !!

> >

> > humbly yours,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

If i answer this i would be repeating myself, please see my answer

again.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti

 

 

Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

Ok, you say yuti also, Zoran says Parivartana only so, what is the

Upadesa from Parampara, here?

 

If yuti also why Neelam would be bad for my example - it gives effects

of 9L and gem based on 9L is best.

 

Maybe to avoid ninth bhava confussion lets go to Meena Lagna Surya and

Moon yuti - so we should perscribe

Ruby right? Or if Moti how Coral could be good for Narasimha?

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you

will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the

ninth house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with

ninth lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya.

That was related to the example you presented.

Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by

Guruji reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the

strength of Parampara.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

 

The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or

parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now

Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani

its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will

work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which

is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

 

 

 

How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you

perscribe 6L gem?

 

Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems

can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. "

 

How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

 

Or I have missed something?

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising

here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

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@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

ahimsavm skrev:

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

www.siva-edu.info

www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

 

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal

>

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter

in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

 

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

 

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

 

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

 

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

 

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

 

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

 

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

 

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

 

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

 

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

 

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

 

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

 

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

 

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

> >>> >

> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going

to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red

coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and

Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana

is actual

exhange of

> >>> houses

> >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >

> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

 

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing

with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

> >>

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Dear Guruji , Namaskar

 

So for ninth lord parivartana, but for any other else we use also yuti?

So my example with Meena and choosing Ruby for Surya Moon yuti is right?

 

Regards,

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rafal

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

If i answer this i would be repeating myself, please see my answer

again.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

Ok, you say yuti also, Zoran says Parivartana only so, what is the

Upadesa from Parampara, here?

 

If yuti also why Neelam would be bad for my example - it gives effects

of 9L and gem based on 9L is best.

 

Maybe to avoid ninth bhava confussion lets go to Meena Lagna Surya and

Moon yuti - so we should perscribe

Ruby right? Or if Moti how Coral could be good for Narasimha?

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you

will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the

ninth house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with

ninth lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya.

That was related to the example you presented.

Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by

Guruji reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the

strength of Parampara.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

 

The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or

parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now

Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani

its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will

work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which

is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

 

 

 

How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you

perscribe 6L gem?

 

Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems

can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. "

 

How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

 

Or I have missed something?

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising

here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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ahimsavm skrev:

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

www.siva-edu.info

www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

 

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal

>

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter

in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

 

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

 

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

 

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

 

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

 

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

 

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

 

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

 

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

 

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

 

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

 

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

 

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

 

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

 

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

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> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going

to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red

coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and

Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana

is actual

exhange of

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> >>> > > and not simply conj....

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> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

 

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing

with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

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Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,Namaste.........and I guess Mars is the only graha who is absolved of his "technicoloured spectacles" being combust. So WHO gets the first position in digbala? Sun, being the King or combust Mars the commander in digbala?love,SweeOn 20 Dec 2008, at 12:20, Visti Larsen wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Thanks for the clarification reg. Topaz. I did read one of your old mails reg. the same recently.Please publish your emails reg. the gemstones somewhere so that we can make references to them in future publications as had I referred to your email in my write-up it would amount to pure hearsay as its difficult to refer to emails with some credibility.Reg. PV's chart, do see my recent email to Rafal and Chandan. Both Mars and Sun have Digbala in his chart btw.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti Swee Chan skrev:Jaya JagannathaDear Chandan,NamasteThanks for making my laugh for the day :)) Mistakes/misunderstandings are my own................Your analysis is absolutely correct and the reason why there are 12 signs, each with our own ascendant lords to contend and problems are compounded the 6th, 8th and 12th and their lords to "work" on so as to better ourselves. The deities who "own" those houses especially the 8th are obviously not happy with us. This is especially so if there is rasi drishti. Annulment or buoyancy and appeasement of the deity is possible if those planets in the navamsa are not detrimental.Coming to the various anecdotes in the various khandas of the Padma Purana about Indra versus Bala asura, I will attempt my own analysis:Bhumikhanda : Bala asura offered his daily meditation close to the sea - Sign is Pisces. Bala asura who was oblivious to Indra's presence, was immediately killed with Indra's vajra. Analogy: The annulment of the malfeasance of a malefic in the 12th house or in the sign Pisces, can be annulled by the presence of a benefic (Indra-Brihaspati ie Jupiter, since it is stated that Brihaspati was a plenary portion of Indra.) Uttarakhanda: The subsequent anecdote on the war between suras and asuras, Varuna, the overlord and deity over gemstones came into the picture. According to Mahabharata, Varuna fathered Bala asura. Being one of the Adityas, he is the naisargika karaka for the 4th/Karka and Indra is the lord of the 5th/Simha. The 5th from the 4th is Vrischikha (in male progeny) where Bala asura's penances and transformations took place and different parts of his body turned into gem seeds which were "taken" by different entities - good and bad. According to Garuda Purana, only some of these gems have intrinsic virtues and it goes on to list 10 major ones - Navagraha + Lagna. The transformation of Bala asura's body parts are different from the ones given in Garuda Purana.In another chapter, we also read about the instant death of Bala asura. Never once do we see his revival. The fact that bala asura's wife turned into a river (nadi) after merging with Bala asura and gems "flowed" through her waters for the benefit of mankind.SUMMARYSince BOTH Padma Purana (Lagna/Mesha/Mangal/Narasimha) and Garuda Purana (5th/Simha/Surya/Aditya) agree that the reason people who can afford to adorn/own beautiful gems is due to their past religious merit, we are to simply understand that this implies the strength of the 9th house, its sign and the strength in Navamsa. We can hence say that the idiot proof method is that the deities lording the 6th, 8th and 12th is "angry" with us. The duplication of the story being that when Sukra eulogised (5th lord/ 5th house/Indra) Lord Siva, Lord Siva recalled Sukra's installation of the Ruby linga in Sukra's previous life, to Lord Siva.That the ignoble becomes a nobility due to past religious merit is indicated according to Sanjay Guru's analysis on PVN Rao's chart. - Sanjay ji, this requires your confirmation.That the 5th and 9th lords will shower their blessings naturally if in strength and attention is to be paid to those ignoble entities where gemstones are concerned.ie., Provided that the dusthana lords are well placed and have digbala, we can recommend the gemstone that pertains to them as this indicates the non displeasure of the the deity/entity lording that gem.That a natural and "functional" benefic if badly placed, can be helped with the wearing of a gemstone.Dear Visti,NamasteNatural Yellow Topaz is non existent and should be Yellow Sapphire. Even the Papadradscha is described in the same chapter of the Garuda Purana besides others. Hessonite is not the gemstone for Rahu. It might be the last of the gemstone I shall endeavour as I continue to write my articles regarding gemstones.PVN Rao's chart:We seem to have ignored the fact that Sun also has digbala that is, directional strength in the South/10th house. That retrograde Mercury is in vargottama, well placed in 11th and that Mars is in MARANA sthana in navamsa, the A12 with Jupiter in marana and afflicted by Rahu and Candra is unhappily displaced in Tula. May my mind be finally rest in peace and resolve to the fact that gems can be used for ALL Lords of the Zodiac.Vara cakra: We are taught to use the deities weapons. Can you please elaborate more on its use wrt gems, since we were taught to use gems in kalacakra??Have a good weekend. It's parties galore but instead I am sifting through the Vedas and their healing arts.love,SweeOn 20 Dec 2008, at 08:41, chandan486 wrote:||aum namah shivaya||Dear Visti,Namaste.Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life !So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!humble regards,Chandan s sabarwal.--- In  , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, NamaskarOk, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no yuti-exchange?If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its only parivartana as that is not clear?Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where this example is also cited yet from a different perspective.Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be intelligently applied.Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its gemstone by any chance.Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji  , Namaskar1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, strenghting the Lagnesh should be the caseas Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - enemy. You can say that thereare exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems as Sanjayji example is indicating.3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised that is the rule of Sanjayji basedon Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings.4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule for gems per your teachings.Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance.So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results.Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him.So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity.Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader.It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, NamaskarWhy in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated.Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly.Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health.Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity.If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone.So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Rajarishi   , NamaskarPage 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but stillthe choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Raoas it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples.Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalrajarshi nandy pisze:Dear RafalI have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said:// /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords/Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?-Regards Rajarshi/**The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra**/--- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote:    Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme    Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on    divisonal charts ?    To:      Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM    *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*    Dear Chandan, Namaskar    So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on    yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen    if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma    is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage,    progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for    materialists.    When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much    attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal    malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic    and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we    use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this    principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision.    Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its    dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and    tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship,    sambandha    and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.    More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits    in 2H in D3 (Sn).    What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad    which Mangal gives here?    OR    we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon    for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.    Regards,    Rafal Gendarz    ------------ --------- --------    Consultations and Pages:    http://rohinaa. com    rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com    chandan486 pisze:    ||aum namah shivaya||    Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,    Namaste.    I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal    and you    two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.    Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal    chart    analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i    seem to be    correct about the advise for a Red Coral.    1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which    can be seen    from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.    Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have    conjoined ,    Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones    adjacent to    it , those ayanas will get exchanged.    This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius -    Kama and    Pisces - Moksha.    Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones    adjacent to it    get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and    Cancer -    Moksha ..    The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to    yuti is    Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a    political leader    and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .    So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.    Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which    Zoran already    mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with    nothing to    obstruct.    Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which    anyways is    more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala    prevails.    2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is    Varki ..    Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good    idea , as it    only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is    best    choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.    I think i made a pretty neat assemement.    Comments Please !!    humble regards,    Chandan S Sabarwal.        <%40>, Rafal Gendarz    <starsuponme@ ...>    wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Zoranji , NamaskarPlease dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral    then the    answer was:Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do    gemstones.    Doesthat clarify?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.June 28, 1921Time: 12:49:00Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is    third and    eightlord, so the question is the same :a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon    and Surya    yutiwe perscribe Rubyorb) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for    Narasimha Rao?If there is no answer to this simple question then just    admit it    andplease dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@ahimsavm pisze:Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has    veryprecisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are    reversed,so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we    subsitute    thegem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing    theirsignification, since one pada of dharma remains    uninfluenced. So,parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in    Fullreversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji    recommending the    changeof a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th    house andShukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani    and Shukra.Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji    recommendedNeelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra    specifically. This    wasfurther very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. infowww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com    <%40><srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz    <starsuponme@ >wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, Zoranji, NamaskarThe whole disussion is about if we use the other gem    based on    yutiorparivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its    also foryuti, nowZoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth    lord is withShaniits durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the    yuti graha    Shaniwillwork, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the    yuti grahawhich is9L so getting out of durbhagya.How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha    sign ? How    canyouperscribe 6L gem?Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can    be done    ONLYinPARIVARTANA. "How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?Or I have missed something?Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>    <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>rafal@Visti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord?    That wouldgivedurbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points    that Zoki    isrising here.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> '>http://srigaruda.com/>    <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>@:'>http://srigaruda.com/>>@: visti@ahimsavm skrev:Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct.    However,    thissubstitution of gems can be done ONLY in    PARIVARTANA. If youhavelet us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I    would neverprescribeNeelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in    8th house.    Inthatcase I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.The better way out is to take Ruby because it    would block theShaniand improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja    should be    ingoodrealtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another    possibility is MOti(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good    for Mangal    andalso Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the    rise of badluck.Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement    in the    chart.Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. infowww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com    <%40><srijagannat h%40. com><srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal    Gendarz<starsuponme@ >wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji , NamaskarYes.Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I    should perscribeNeelamtogive effect of bhagyesh Mangal?Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>    <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>    <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/><http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>>rafal@Visti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.The final effect is the same, as had the    parivartana doneotherwisethen he would not have cancer.Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely    caused byJupiter inthiscase as we see Rahu involved in a curse of    mother from    pastlifeandinvolving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.Still the advise is the same.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com    <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com    <http://srigaruda.com/>><http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> '>http://srigaruda.com/>    <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>>@: visti@rajarshi nandy skrev:Dear VistiThank you for sharing that information.    Really wonderfulmail.I was seeing a chart of a person who has been    detected    withlivercancer and doctors have given him six months    time to    live.Inhischart jup is in exchance with venus. Should    he wear apokhrajinsteadof diamond?If you could kindly take a look and advice it    woiuld begreat..23rd march 197712:20 pmcalcuttamithun lagna, mesh rasi..-RegardsRajarshi/**The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava -    Shiva    Sutra**/--- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S    (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*wrote:Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing    gemstone ondivisonalcharts ?    <%40><srijagannat h%40. com><srijagannat h%40. com>Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PMOm Gurave NamahDear Visti Ji, NamasteWOW!As far as I am concerned, your email bellow    is a "MarryChristmasand a Happy New Year in advance".Thank you so much for shearing it with us!Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen    /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing    gemstone ondivisonal charts ?Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM??? ??? ?????Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my    last mail, Irealise no one learns if no one shares, so    here is whatIhave learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg.    gemstones withtime(this will be republished on my website for    reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones    belongs to theconcept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to    protectthebody. This is best to advise when a person may bemaking awrong decision and you want them to stick to    the rightone.Just as one can advise gemstones to protect    the body,thereare gemstones which can remove the protection    of thebody,hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but    does notliterallymean gemstone, but can also refer to    treasure, jewel,precious stone, and is derived from the word    /ra-/meaning agift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine    types oftreasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra(diamond),/padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz),    indrani-la(clear/stainless sapphire), marakata    (emerald), vaidu-rya(cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda    (hessonite). /For thesame reason the word /ratna/ also means nine    in vedicnumerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated    as Topaz bymost,however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p.    174) doesstatethat different colours of the /pushpara-ga    /can beregardedas equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or    /padmara-ga(ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la(Sapphire) /we mustinfer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can    be regardedasgiving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz).    Hence,whilstall sapphires fall in the same group of    /indrani-la/ thecolour of them being different also    differentiates theeffects of wearing them greatly. Details    should belearnedfrom the Garuda Purana in this regard.The Deva are supposed to reside in the    particle of a    ratnawhichis clear, bright, without cracks or lines in    it and has    nounusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a    ratna is    forthesake of keeping a Deva next to you and    protecting you.Ratnaka-rakaRatna comes under the various metals known as    Dhatu.    Moon,Mars,Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among    them Moonrules overRatna, whilst Mars rules over the earth,    Saturn over therawminerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu    rules over    theraremetals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon    is Ratna    ka-rakaand divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and    SomanathaNavamsha are the most important to judge the    effect ofgemstones.As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones    karma and    thisissignified by ones hands, the Somanatha    drekkana is apt    tojudgethe effects of gemstones. Specifically this    divisionalchartshows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong    ojas can    grantfame,and hence this divisional chart can be used    to see onespopularity as well as sexuality where ones    ojas is used.The Moon signifying all gemstones is also knownas /gunatmaka/,i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or    attributes.    Hence tounderstand the effects of a gemstone    vis-a-vis othergemstones weuse the gunachakra. This is also used for    other purposesand isan integral part of Vedic numerology. This    will beexplainedfurther below.Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be    understood    fromVedicRemedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The    four fingersrepresentmoksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively    for the    index,middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is    advised on    theindexfinger as it risks blocking moksha and    increasing    ahamkara.Thefollowing table has been culled out of the    same work.Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)RatnaFingerRubyRing (3^rd from index)PearlRing or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)CoralMiddle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)EmeraldMiddle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from    index)Yellow Topaz/Yellow SapphireRing (3^rd from index)DiamondRing (3^rd from index)Blue SapphireMiddle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)HessoniteMiddle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)Cats eyeMiddle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do    great good    forthehuman race and they have natural (Naisargika)characteristicswhich will benefit everyone. Example: a lady    wishing to    beamother would benefit greatly from wearing a    pushpara-ga(topaz)or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a    person havingcancershould wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya    mantra.    Thesenaturalindications of gemstones can be applied to    all thegemstones andthe effects are given in Garuda Purana.Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p.    1.55)GrahaRatnaTranslationSunPadmara-gaRubyMoonMuktaPearlMarsVidrumaCoralMercuryMarakataEmeraldJupiterPushpara-gaYellow TopazVenusVajraDiamondSaturnIndrani-laBlue SapphireRahuGomedaHessoniteKetuVaidu-ryaCats eyeTradition is everything when it comes to    applying anyadvice andhereunder is some of the advice that I have    gathered    frommyteacher.Ratna should be advised based on the first,    fifth and    ninthhouselords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the    best    gemstonesandwill support the native in their purpose of    life. The    firstlordprotects the head and intelligence, the fifth    protects    thehandsand torso, whilst the ninth protects the    legs, and hencethenative will always select the best path in    life if thegemstoneof the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth    lord is the    mostauspicious gemstone. This can also be used to    advise thebestgemstone for disease in particular parts of    the body.Malefics placed in the ninth house cause    misfortune,    and insuchcases reversal gems are advised.Graha in 9^thGemstone advisedSaturnRuby (pink ruby for ladies)RähuYellow Sapphire or Yellow TopazKetuGold ringMarsPearlGemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth    house lords    areinauspicious and cause strife, disease and lossrespectively andshould not be worn.To both the above there are exceptions which    occur onaccount ofYoga.Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)The graha give their effects by affecting the    four    ayana orgoalsof the person's life namely dharma, artha,    ka-ma and    mokshasymbolised by the first, second, third or    fourth pada    of anakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery    signsrespectively.When a graha is in parivartana yoga with    another, then    theothergraha will affect all four ayana of the    former graha.Therefore,if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the    sixth lord    thegemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha    it takes onthree ofthe four ayanas of the other graha. Which    three ayanadepends oni) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii)    the two signsadjacentthat particular sign. Example: If Sun is    joined Venus    thenSunwill give the effects of Venus. In such a    case should    Sunbeplaced in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it    would give    theeffects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in    an earthyNavamsha,and further as the Navamsha before is that of    a fiery    signandthat after being an airy sign, the Sun would    give theeffects ofVenus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana    (airy) as    well,butnot the moksha-ayana (watery).If three or more graha join then the    interchange of    effectswillbe decided based on the natural benefic/malefic    indicationsofthe graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and    Mercury join thenthehighest malefic and highest benefic will    interchangeresults,thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to    interchange resultswhilstMercury will give not give the results of    anyone.    Similarlyapplythis to conjunction of more grahas.The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and    Parivartanadristi are not taken into account for this    purpose as    theyonlyaffect two or one ayana among the full four    ayana of agraha, yetare still applied when timing events.Va-rachakraTable 4: Varachakra#Graha1Sun2Moon3Mars4Mercury5Jupiter6Venus7Saturn8Rähu9KetuIn some cases the gemstones of the sixth,    eighth or    twelfthlordsneeds to be given to as those graha are causing    excessiveproblems to the native. This occurs when    another graha    iscausingan eclipse on that graha and thus denying it    of itspositiveeffects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was    recalled to havegiven theadvice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as    Sun was in    thesixthand Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that    specific    scenariothenative was suffering on account of repeated    legal    battles.Thereason being on account of Rähu. This is further    explainedas:when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas    (10^th ,    1^st or5^thin that order) that graha causes an eclipse    on the thirdgraha inthe order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the    order of    weekdaysthethird graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when    Rähu is in    thetenthhouse the native will have problems on    account of the    houseplacement and lordship of the Sun in their life.    Similarlyifamong the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed    in the    fifthhousethen the placement and lordship of Jupiter    will behampered.The Varachakra has many uses in matters of    Jyotish, andthis isthe logic behind many principles in the    Brighu Sutras.GunachakraTable 1: Gunachakra#GrahaGuna1SunSatva2Moon3Jupiter4Rähu5MercuryRajas6Venus7Ketu8SaturnTamas9MarsGunachakra is applied somewhat differently    than theVarachakra.If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose    to lock orunlockits indications using the fourth or seventh    graha in thegunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and    tumours arecausedby a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the    body and issignified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the    Gunachakra thefourthgraha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the    spread ofcancer.Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond    is advisedalongwith Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can    cause nervoussystemissues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and    to block    thisissuea gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the    Mrtyunjayabijas.Should a graha already be blocking the native    in one    aspectoflife, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is    required. I.e.    ifforTaurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in    Libra, the    nativewillbe bothered by constant disease on account of    wrongapplicationof intelligence. Therefore the intellect can    be deemed    aslockedand wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.    Similarlyif Moonis very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga    then a    BlueSapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh    graha from    theMoonin weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the    Gunachakrain thisregard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been    presentedwiththem, this is what I have to share.Somanatha DrekkanaHaving ascertained the gemstone as per the    Rashi chart    itisworthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana.    Herein    grahalordingthe second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in    the body    andwillcurtail health and sexuality. This gemstone    is thereforenotadvised, and neither is the lord of the    twelfth as this    isthesixth lord from the seventh house causing    celibacy to    thepartner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords    affect thepartnerin a similar fashion and those gemstones should    preferablyalsobe avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can    increase    theperson's libido significantly and advising    this gemstoneshouldbe done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna    lord is the    bestandensures good health and fame. Apply this adviceintelligently.Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda./>'>http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev:||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into    troubles with theadvent ofRahuDasa , makes more sense now , but still you    haventanswered .. ismere conj enough to wear each other's    gemstones ? or    is itrealparivartana that fulfils the condition for    gemtsoneexchange !!however , first we need to really understand    , thatconjunctionactually makes planets behave like each other    completely ?oronly dothey give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each    other ? thenwhat doesparivartana do ? does it also do the same ?    if not thesame , thenwhats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal.<srijagannat h%40. com>,    Visti Larsen<visti@> wrote:??? ??? ?????Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues    and jail    time,butthrough histhird and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he wasuntouched. It wasnotuntil Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems,    hence    pointingoutclearlythat the wearing of the Coral during Mars    mahadasa    wasperfectadvise...Afterall he became Prime Minister after    wearing it!    Howmany canastrologers can boast of a client    attaining that oncefollowing aremedial measure?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- ---------    ----www: http://srigaruda.    <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/    <http://srigaruda.com/><http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>><http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> '>http://srigaruda.com/>    <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>@: visti@Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:||aum namah shivaya||dear swee and visti,namaste !swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha    going to jailand alsobeingheld up in litigation (6th house    effects) , thateventuallycamecameupon unto him , after some of his own    party membersandassociates(mercury), accused him of bribery and    even showed    thebriefcase ,inwhich he was actually deliveered INR 10    million .Visti - when you mentioned , that a red    coral is    beingadvised towornsimply based upon the conj of Mars and    Mercury in    10thHouse ,mercbeing lagnesha , i cannt somehow    comprehend the    basictheorybehindthis ... and i still remember reading    somehwere onyour websitewhereyou mentioned , only complete    parivartana is actualexhange ofhousesand not simply conj....conj simply gives results of each others inDasas's ... butactualpotency and maleficience / benificience    is based    uponRasi /Dasamasa !how could some one possibly advise a    gemstone justbased uponrasi andnot even consider damasa , especially    when career    isconcerend ?moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in    Narasimha'scase ,somehowmakes me believe , it should have been    the Emeraldthat heshouldhaveworn and not the red coral ...also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with    the Sun ,    soonce againemerald.i had always wanted to pick up this    thing with    out ,glad sweeboughtit up !!humbly yours,chandan s sabarwal.------------ --------- --------- ---------    --------- --------    --------------Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy!    Invite    themnow.    <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:    //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>    <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:    //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>    <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:    //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>    <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:    //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>om/invite/>------------ --------- --------- ---------    --------- ---------    --------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com    <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com    <http://www.avg.com/>><http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>    <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database:    270.9.18/1851 -    ReleaseDate:2008-12-16 08:53------------ --------- --------- ---------    --------- --------- --------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com    <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com    <http://www.avg.com/>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 -    Release    Date:2008-12-17 08:31------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------    --------- -    ------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 -    Release Date:    2008-12-17 08:31    ------        Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com     Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31------From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here. <http://in.rd./tagline_groups_10/*http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/> ------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release 2008-12-18 20:06------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release 2008-12-18 20:06------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release 2008-12-18 20:06------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1857 - Release Date: 2008-12-19 10:09---~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Chandan, Namaste

 

Sweetie... I don't have a Guruji.

 

Though I do have basic manners in behavior (thank you, mom!) so I respect people who are putting their effort to lead this list. Without them, where would people like you and me be when writing something here? Yes, they are mortals, but who in the world are you to suggest them anything? (Or better, how many people got a reply on their question from you?) Especially to suggest some practical experience, since your can no way compare to their (again, check the archive). Most friendly advice: be careful with your chart when you decide pointing at failures of Gurus.

 

I also have kind of a good habit to stick to one opinion for longer than a week.

 

I never said you rectified your chart incorrectly. By Prasna I made for you, this very much says about correct Lagna, and most probably fiery Lagnamsa, so Dhanu can fit there. I just like second opinion if there is a chance to get one. When I get a Guruji, I shall stick to my own opinion. Until then I will work like this.

 

 

After reading my previous email, have I convinced you that my birth time is precisely 01:15:00.00000000000000 AM (maybe I am exaggerating with seconds)? No way could I have written you something like that if my Lagna was Simha. Or to feel the need to write it. You do the homework why (it is also very useful for practical experience in Jyotish. The more you gain, sooner you will have the right to suggest it to someone).

 

You were saying:

 

Moreover , as far as my knowledge on the subject is concerned , i have no doubt about what i know and what i dont ! so maybe u should leave that unto me !

 

If you want your knowledge to be left to you, if you want to be the only one in the world judging it, if you are so sure in it and having no doubts: What in the world are you doing here asking questions?

 

Now I can come back to Ch across my AL, so relax.

 

You did not reply to any of my questions bellow about Ruby/Diamond/Yellow Sapphire/effects of 5th and 2nd/7th lord. If you decide to reply to me with avoiding this subject… better spend your time on something else.

 

 

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Maja Strbac

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

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chandan486 <wavelogix[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 PM

 

 

||aum namah shivaya||dear maja,namaste.All of the above makes complete sense , as someone really powerful from the jyotisa circle has re-validated the rectification of my chart yesterday and it indeed is mesha lagna.Moreover , as far as my knowledge on the subject is concerned , i have no doubt about what i know and what i dont ! so maybe u should leave that unto me !As far as giving suggestions is concenred , have i committed a crime ?You should not forget that the so called guruji's of yours are human mortals with limited intellect and intelligence! So anything and everything cannot be accpeted blindly expect that comes from the BHPS / Jaimini Sutras and other such texts.And for your kind information , rectifying ones own chart (also takes some skill for that btw ), is no offence and that did not require those in bracket comments with my birth

details.!!Thanks once again for those nice words which were really undue and not so welcome !humble regards,Chandan S Sabarwal., Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah>  > Dear Chandan, Namaste>  > At the end... are you wearing a Ruby? Or was it a Yellow Sapphire? Both? Maybe you could put Diamond again... why not, the more the merrier. :) Besides, it is Yoga Karaka for your D10. :)>  > So your idea is to be an... Experimental pet to yourself and try all the gemstones one by one for the purposes of gaining some personal experience, right? Okie... You know, it would be nice to

learn what there is about Gemstones first.>  > (Oops, you are trying to suggest some personal experience in Jyotish to a Jyotish Guru? At least try checking the archive of this list and then think again was this suggestion necessary. I am not surprised to read something like that in an email written by someone who has Guru as AK. You probably imagine yourself as competent to advice him better than his own Guruji Visti Larsen, right? :)>  > I see some contradiction in your writing. You wrote a whole neat novel (congratulations on patience) on exchange of effects for Grahas in Yuti (3/4 of Ayana), and then you are bringing up that wearing Ruby was perfect for you (which is contradiction to your emails from last week when Yellow sapphire was perfect for you from your "personal experience") as it gives results of 5th bhava... how come when it is giving

3/4 of Ayana for Sukra as you learned, which is Maraka for your chart, though there is a good side that Sukra is giving neecha banga to Surya in your chart. Do let me write your birth data again, a whole chart is a whole picture:>  > 01st November 1982> 17:44:39 PM (rectified by native)> 88 E 22; 22 N 34> Time zone 05:30 hours East of GMT>  > We have already determined that you have nothing against your Pravraja Yoga. So if you decide next week to wear a Yellow Sapphire as a "perfect choice" for you, do notice that this will give 3/4 of Ayana of Sani. Your idea was to solve Sani and Rahu Graha dristi on 9th bhava. What are we going to do with Grahas placed in 9th? Is Dristi stronger than this?>  > Of course, all this makes sense if you have rectified your own chart correctly.>  > Warm

Regards,> Maja Strbac> Â > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, chandan486 <wavelogix@. ..> wrote:> > > chandan486 <wavelogix@. ..>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?> > Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:56 PM> > > > > > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > dear rafal,> namaste.> > Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's > article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt > something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical > texts and concepts that directly

come from the *source*.> > So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i > too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of > us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones > purely based on yuti.> > Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are > still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of > Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood.> > Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun > ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase > i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there > always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !!> > trust me , personal experience is the best !> so based on yuti gemstone

exchange , i do not see diamond working for > me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect !> > thoughts please!> > humble regards,> Chandan S sabarwal.> > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Chandan, Namaskar> > > > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when > it > > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is > spiritual or > > not, after all dharma> > is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > progeny, > > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.> > > > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > attention > > Sanjayji places

towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal > is > > definitely temporal malefic> > and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising > Coral > > is quite unfortunate decision.> > > > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated > by > > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha > here. So > > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha> > and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.> > > > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H > in D3 > > (Sn).> > > > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which > Mangal > > gives here?> > > > OR> > > > we

accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for > Meena > > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.> > > > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > Consultations and Pages:> > http://rohinaa. com> > rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > chandan486 pisze:> > >> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > >> > > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,> > > Namaste.> > >> > > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you> > > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.> > > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart> > > analysis of PV Narasimha

Rao , im going to explain what i seem to > be> > > correct about the advise for a Red Coral.> > >> > > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be > seen> > > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.> > > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,> > > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to> > > it , those ayanas will get exchanged.> > > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama > and> > > Pisces - Moksha.> > >> > > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to > it> > > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -> > > Moksha ..> > >> > > The only Pada / ayana that does not

get exchanged due to yuti is> > > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political > leader> > > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .> > > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.> > > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran > already> > > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to> > > obstruct.> > >> > > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways > is> > > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.> > >> > > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..> > > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , > as it> > > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is

best> > > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.> > >> > > I think i made a pretty neat assemement.> > >> > > Comments Please !!> > >> > > humble regards,> > > Chandan S Sabarwal.> > >> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> > > >> > > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the> > > answer was:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > gemstones.> >

> Does> > > > that clarify?> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > > >> > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.> > > >> > > > June 28, 1921> > > > Time: 12:49:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> > > >> > > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and> > > eight> > > > lord, so the question is the same :> > > >> > > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and > Surya> > > yuti> > > > we perscribe Ruby> > > >> > > > or> > >

>> > > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha > Rao?> > > >> > > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it> > > and> > > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > ------------ --------- --------> > > > Consultations and Pages:> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > rafal@> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > ------------ --------- --------> > > > Consultations and Pages:> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > rafal@> > > >> > > >> > > > ahimsavm pisze:> > > > >> > > > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very> > > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are> > > reversed,> > > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > subsitute> > > the> > > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their> > > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. > So,> > > > > parivartana is stronger

than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full> > > > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the> > > change> > > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house > and> > > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and > Shukra.> > > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji> > > recommended> > > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > specifically. This> > > was> > > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.> > > > > Best wishes> > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > > www.siva-edu. info> > > > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > >> > > > > @

. com > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> > > > > >> > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based > on> > > yuti> > > > > or> > > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also > for> > > > > yuti, now> > > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is > with> > > > > Shani> > > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as

then the yuti graha> > > Shani> > > > > will> > > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti > graha> > > > > which is> > > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? > How> > > can> > > > > you> > > > > > perscribe 6L gem?> > > > > >> > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done> > > ONLY> > > > > in> > > > > > PARIVARTANA. "> > > > > >> > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?> > >

> > >> > > > > > Or I have missed something?> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------> > > > > > Consultations and Pages:> > > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > > > > rafal@> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > > >

> >> > > > > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That > would> > > > > give> > > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that > Zoki> > > is> > > > > > > rising here.> > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > > > @: visti@> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > However,> > > this> > > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If > you> > > > > have> > > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never> > > > > prescribe> > > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th > house.> > > In> > > > > that> > > >

> > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.> > > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would > block the> > > > > Shani> > > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should > be> > > in> > > > > good> > > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is > MOti> > > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for > Mangal> > > and> > > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of > bad> > > > > luck.> > > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the> > > chart.> > > > > > >> Best

wishes> > > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > > > >> www.siva-edu. info> > > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > > > >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > <starsuponme@ >> > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Yes.> > > > > >

>> >> > > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should > perscribe> > > > > Neelam> > > > > > >> to> > > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> > > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> > > > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>>>> > > > > > >> > rafal@> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana

> done> > > > > > >> otherwise> > > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> > > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by> > > > > Jupiter in> > > > > > >> this> > > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother > from> > > past> > > > > life> > > > > > >> and> > > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> > > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> > > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > >> > >

www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > <http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com>>>> > > > > > >> > > @: visti@> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi

nandy skrev:> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really > wonderful> > > > > mail.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > detected> > > with> > > > > > >> liver> > > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to> > > live.> > > > > In> > > > > > >> his> > > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear > a> > > > >

pokhraj> > > > > > >> instead> > > > > > >> > >> of diamond?> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > woiuld be> > > > > great..> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> > > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> > > > > > >> > >> calcutta> > > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> -Regards> > > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> >

>> /*> > > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva> > > Sutra*> > > > > > >> > >> */> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S> > > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > gemstone on> > > > > > >> divisonal> > > > > > >> > >> charts ?> > > > > > >> > >> To:

> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> WOW!> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is > a "Marry> > > > > > >>

Christmas> > > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> > > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti > Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > > >> com>/* wrote:> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >

>> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > gemstone on> > > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> > > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last > mail, I> > > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is > what> > > > > > >> I> >

> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> > > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones > with> > > > > > >> time> > > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > reference):> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to > the> > > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > protect> > > > > > >> the> > > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be> > > > > > >> making a> > > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick

to the > right> > > > > > >> one.> > > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the > body,> > > > > > >> there> > > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the> > > > > > >> body,> > > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> > > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not> > > > > > >> literally> > > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, > jewel,> > > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/> > > > > > >> meaning a> > > > > >

>> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types > of> > > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra> > > > > > >> (diamond),> > > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-> la> > > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), > vaidu-> > > > > > >> rya> > > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). /> > > > > > >> For the> > > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in

> vedic> > > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as > Topaz by> > > > > > >> most,> > > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does> > > > > > >> state> > > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be> > > > > > >> regarded> > > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-> ga> > > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la> > > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> > > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be > regarded> > > > > > >> as> >

> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,> > > > > > >> whilst> > > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-> la/ the> > > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates > the> > > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be> > > > > > >> learned> > > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a> > > ratna> > > > > > >> which> > > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright,

without cracks or lines in it and > has> > > no> > > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna > is> > > for> > > > > > >> the> > > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting > you.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.> > > Moon,> > > > > > >> Mars,> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them > Moon> > > > > > >>

rules over> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn > over the> > > > > raw> > > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules > over> > > the> > > > > > >> rare> > > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is > Ratna> > > ka-> > > > > > >> raka> > > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and> > > Somanatha> > > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect > of> > > > > > >> gemstones.> > > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma >

and> > > this> > > > > > >> is> > > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is > apt> > > to> > > > > > >> judge> > > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > divisional> > > > > chart> > > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can> > > grant> > > > > > >> fame,> > > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see > ones> > > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is > used.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>

The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known> > > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> > > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes.> > > Hence to> > > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other> > > > > > >> gemstones we> > > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other > purposes> > > > > > >> and is> > > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be> > > > > explained> > > > > > >> > >> further below.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be >

understood> > > from> > > > > > >> Vedic> > > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four > fingers> > > > > > >> represent> > > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the> > > index,> > > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised > on> > > the> > > > > > >> index> > > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing> > > ahamkara.> > > > > > >> The> > > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same > work.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > >

> > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Finger> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Coral> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd

or 4^th from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring

finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great > good> > > for> > > > > > >> the> > > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)> > > > > > >> characteristics> > > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > wishing to> > > be> > > > > a> > > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > pushpara-ga> > > > > > >> (topaz)> > > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person > having> > > > > > >> cancer> > >

> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.> > > These> > > > > > >> natural> > > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the> > > > > > >> gemstones and> > > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna> > > > >

> >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Translation> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mukta> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Vidruma> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >

>> > >> Coral> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Marakata> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>

Pushpara-ga> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Vajra> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Rahu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Gomeda> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying > any> > > > > > >> advice and> > > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the

advice that I have gathered> > > from> > > > > my> > > > > > >> > >> teacher.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth > and> > > ninth> > > > > > >> house> > > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best> > > gemstones> > > > > > >> and> > > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. > The> > > first> > > > > > >> lord> > > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > protects> > > the> > > > > > >> hands>

> > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and > hence> > > > > the> > > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if > the> > > > > > >> gemstone> > > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is > the> > > most> > > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > advise the> > > > > > >> best> > > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the > body.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune,> > > and in> > >

> > > >> such> > > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>

Rähu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Gold ring> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>

Pearl> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house > lords> > > are> > > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss> > > > > > >> respectively and> > > > > > >> > >> should not be worn.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur > on> > > > > > >> account of> > > > > > >> > >> Yoga.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Yoga

and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four> > > ayana or> > > > > > >> goals> > > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and> > > moksha> > > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth > pada> > > of a> > > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs> > > > > > >> respectively.> > > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, > then> > > the> > > > > > >> other> > > > > > >> > >>

graha will affect all four ayana of the former > graha.> > > > > > >> Therefore,> > > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth > lord> > > the> > > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it > takes on> > > > > > >> three of> > > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three > ayana> > > > > > >> depends on> > > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two > signs> > > > > > >> adjacent> > > >

> > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined > Venus> > > then> > > > > > >> Sun> > > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case > should> > > Sun> > > > > be> > > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would > give> > > the> > > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an > earthy> > > > > > >> Navamsha,> > > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a > fiery> > > sign> > > > > > >> and> > > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give > the>

> > > > > >> effects of> > > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) > as> > > well,> > > > > > >> but> > > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of> > > effects> > > > > > >> will> > > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic> > > indications> > > > > > >> of> > > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join > then> > > > > the> > > > > > >> > >> highest

malefic and highest benefic will interchange> > > > > > >> results,> > > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange > results> > > > > > >> whilst> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.> > > Similarly> > > > > > >> apply> > > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and> > > Parivartana> > > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose > as> > > they> > > > > > >> only> > > > > > >>

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana > of a> > > > > > >> graha, yet> > > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> #> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > >

> >> > >> 1> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 2> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 3> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > >

> > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 4> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 5> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 6> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 7> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 8> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 9> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or> > > twelfth> > > > > > >> lords> > > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing> > > excessive> > > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another > graha> > > is> > > > > > >> causing> > > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its> > > > > positive> > > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to > have>

> > > > > >> given the> > > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun > was in> > > the> > > > > > >> sixth> > > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific> > > scenario> > > > > > >> the> > > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal> > > battles.> > > > > > >> The> > > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further> > > explained> > > > > > >> as:> > > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,> > > 1^st or> > > > > > >>

5^th> > > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the > third> > > > > > >> graha in> > > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of> > > weekdays> > > > > > >> the> > > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu > is in> > > the> > > > > > >> tenth> > > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of > the> > > house> > > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.> > > Similarly> > > > > > >> if> > > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava

only Mars is placed in the> > > fifth> > > > > > >> house> > > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be> > > > > hampered.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, > and> > > > > > >> this is> > > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu > Sutras.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra> > > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> #> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Guna> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 1> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> >

>> Sun> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Satva> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 2> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 3> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >

>> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 4> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 5> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > >

> >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Rajas> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 6> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 7> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > >

> > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 8> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Tamas> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> 9> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the> > > > > > >> Varachakra.> > > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to > lock or> > > > > > >> unlock> > > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha > in the> > > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > tumours are> > > > > > >> caused> > > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body > and is> > > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the >

Gunachakra the> > > > > > >> fourth> > > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > spread of> > > > > > >> cancer.> > > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is > advised> > > > > > >> along> > > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause > nervous> > > > > > >> system> > > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to > block> > > this> > > > > > >> issue> > > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the> > > Mrtyunjaya> > > > > > >> bijas.> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one> > > aspect> > > > > > >> of> > > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. > I.e.> > > if> > > > > > >> for> > > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the> > > native> > > > > > >> will> > > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong> > > > > > >> application> > > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be > deemed> > > as> > > > > > >> locked> > >

> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.> > > Similarly> > > > > > >> if Moon> > > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a> > > Blue> > > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha > from> > > the> > > > > > >> Moon> > > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.> > > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the> > > Gunachakra> > > > > > >> in this> > > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > presented> > > > > with> > > > > >

>> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi > chart> > > it> > > > > is> > > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein> > > graha> > > > > > >> lording> > > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the > body> > > and> > > > > > >> will>

> > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is > therefore> > > > > not> > > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as > this> > > is> > > > > > >> the> > > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy > to> > > the> > > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > affect the> > > > > > >> partner> > > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should> > > preferably> > > > > > >> also> > > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > increase> >

> the> > > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this > gemstone> > > > > > >> should> > > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is > the> > > best> > > > > > >> and> > > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice> > > > > > >> intelligently.> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> > > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com> > > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >> > >>> dear visti,> > > > > > >> > >>> namaste.> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with > the> > > > > > >> advent of> > > > > > >> > >>> Rahu> > > > > > >> > >>>

Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent> > > > > > >> answered .. is> > > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? > or> > > is it> > > > > > >> real> > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone> > > > > > >> exchange !!> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that> > > > > > >> conjunction> > > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other> > > completely ?> > > > > > >> or> > > > > > >> > >>> only do>

> > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? > then> > > > > > >> what does> > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not > the> > > > > > >> same , then> > > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >> > >>> humble regards,> > > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >> > >>> ---

In > > > > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti > Larsen> > > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> > > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and > jail> > > time,> > > > > > >> but> > > > > > >> > >>> through his> > > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was> > > > > > >> untouched. It was> > > > > >

>> > >>> not> > > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence> > > pointing> > > > > > >> out> > > > > > >> > >>> clearly> > > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > mahadasa> > > was> > > > > > >> perfect> > > > > > >> > >>> advise...> > > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing > it!> > > How> > > > > > >> many can> > > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that > once> > > > > > >> following a> > > >

> > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> > > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda. com/ > > > <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/

<http://srigaruda. com/> > > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>>> > > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> > > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> > > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >

>> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to > jail> > > > > > >> and also> > > > > > >> > >>> being> > > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , > that> > > > > > >> eventually> > > > > > >> > >>> came> > > > > > >> > >>> came> > > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party > members> > > > > and> > > > > > >> > >>> associates> > > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even > showed> > > the> > > > > > >> >

>>> briefcase ,> > > > > > >> > >>> in> > > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > million .> > > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral > is> > > being> > > > > > >> > >>> advised to> > > > > > >> > >>> worn> > > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury > in> > > 10th> > > > > > >> House ,> > > > > > >> > >>> merc> > > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the> > > basic> > > > > > >> theory> > > > > > >> > >>> behind> > > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > somehwere on> > > > > > >> your website> > > > > > >> > >>> where> > > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is > actual> > > > > > >> exhange of> > > > > > >> > >>> houses> > > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> > > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in> > > > > >

>> Dasas's ... but> > > > > > >> > >>> actual> > > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is > based> > > upon> > > > > > >> Rasi /> > > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> > > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone > just> > > > > > >> based upon> > > > > > >> > >>> rasi and> > > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when > career> > > is> > > > > > >> > >>> concerend ?> > > > > > >> >

>>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in> > > Narasimha's> > > > > > >> case ,> > > > > > >> > >>> somehow> > > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the > Emerald> > > > > > >> that he> > > > > > >> > >>> should> > > > > > >> > >>> have> > > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the > Sun ,> > > so> > > > > > >> once again> > > > > > >> > >>>

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om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own

family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence

should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting

the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for

rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is

Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would

help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga

and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal

malefic for Budha and for Kanya.

 

b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa

case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in

AL

 

c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of

2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus

placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita.

 

d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting

Mangal..I am confused.

 

My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

Consultations and Pages:

http://rohinaa.com

 

rafal

 

 

Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar.

2 points need to be raised.

I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange.

II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So

in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra

Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known

for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You

cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak.

Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas

involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh.

Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined

the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly

strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his

Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv

Gandhi would suffer.

Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh

Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong

to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure

going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would

last his tenure as Prime Minister.

 

So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who

advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not

wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial

reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his

predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would

have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv.

I hope this clarifies once again.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

chandan486 skrev:

 

 

 

||aum namah shivaya||

 

Dear Visti,

Namaste.

 

Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im

aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as

VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to

gain..

 

So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like

killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is

that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these

gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next

life !

 

So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good

idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some

body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our

responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!

 

I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but

if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could

flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !

 

Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his

negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!

 

humble regards,

Chandan s sabarwal.

 

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji, Namaskar

>

> Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to

 

> Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no

 

> yuti-exchange?

>

> If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where

its

> only parivartana as that is not clear?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal

>

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes

and

> > previous lessons. For those who have access to the

Varahamihira

list

> > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson

5,

where

> > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective.

> >

> > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when

Narasimha

> > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very

sexually

> > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3?

Hence I

wrote

> > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3

need

to be

> > intelligently applied.

> >

> > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a

Kendra

> > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was

that

Mars

> > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence

another

> > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.

> >

> > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic

aspecting/joining

> > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear

its

> > gemstone by any chance.

> > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.

> >

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >

> >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> >>

> >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi

is

similar

> >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.

> >>

> >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives

rajayoga,

> >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case

> >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case),

not the

8L -

> >> enemy. You can say that there

> >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case

with

gems

> >> as Sanjayji example is indicating.

> >>

> >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord

is

advised

> >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based

> >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per

your

teachings.

> >>

> >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should

make it

> >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,

> >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native!

No yuti

rule

> >> for gems per your teachings.

> >>

> >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Rafal Gendarz

> >> -----------------------------

> >> Consultations and Pages:

> >> http://rohinaa.com

> >> rafal

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>

> >>> ??? ??? ?????

> >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is

occuring in

the

> >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing

that when

the

> >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his

Bhadra yoga

becomes

> >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it

is

conjoined

> >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance.

> >>>

> >>

> >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the

malificence of

the

> >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars

are the most

> >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will

exchange

results.

> >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe

affliction and

curse

> >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet

yoga on

> >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits

were launched

on him.

> >>>

> >>> So finally its because they do exchange results,

point is that

this

> >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic

house.

I.e.

> >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle

is that the

> >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so

if Mercury,

Mars

> >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he

personally

would

> >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.

> >>>

> >>> So finally the house placement must also be good.

Specifically

first

> >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity.

> >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend

falls.

Lagnesh

> >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the

remedy). And so

it

> >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through

which his

colleague

> >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics,

and they

all

> >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader.

> >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars

(also Varesha)

in

> >>> the tenth.

> >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> ----------

> >>> www: http://srigaruda.com

> >>> @: visti

> >>>

> >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >>>

> >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar

> >>>>

> >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still

dusthana lord

in

> >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.

> >>>>

> >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good

for Narasimha

Rao?

> >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Regards,

> >>>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>> -----------------------------

> >>>> Consultations and Pages:

> >>>> http://rohinaa.com

> >>>> rafal

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>>>

> >>>>> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always

good to give the

> >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems,

and we cannot do

so

> >>>>> blindly.

> >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun

joined for

Pisces

> >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun

in such a

combination

> >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house

problems depending

on

> >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave

if the two were

> >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house

then wearing a

Ruby

> >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is

born on a Monday

or

> >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health.

> >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house

it would prove

to be

> >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is

no doubt, i.e.

don't

> >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a

trikona by

wearing

> >>>>> the other grahas gemstone.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by

itself as if such a

> >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be

devastating to wear

such a

> >>>>> gemstone.

> >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>> ----------

> >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com

> >>>>> @: visti

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the

battle Sanjyaji

> >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here

Shukra

Lagnadhipati is

> >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still

> >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald

(Budha is 6L). Based

on

> >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule,

therefore we cant say

that

> >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao

> >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it

is opposite to

previous

> >>>>>> teachings and examples.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>> -----------------------------

> >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com

> >>>>>> rafal

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Rafal

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this

excahnge of mails and

getting

> >>>>>>> a little confused. You said:

> >>>>>>> //

> >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never

recommend gem based on

yuti

> >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti

between trikona lord and

any

> >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and

dusthana lord?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> -Regards

> >>>>>>> Rajarshi

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> /*

> >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is

Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >>>>>>> */

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz

/<starsuponme/*

wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

> >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing gemstone on

> >>>>>>> divisonal charts ?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008,

6:25 PM

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never

recommend gem based on

> >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords.

Its also hard to

seen

> >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after

all dharma

> >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality

but also to

marriage,

> >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big

parts of life for

> >>>>>>> materialists.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra

book then we know how

much

> >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so

called temporal

> >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely

temporal malefic

> >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra

and tenth bhava. If

we

> >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then

based solely on this

> >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite

unfortunate decision.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal

will hit it as its

> >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is

enemy in naisargika and

> >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its

badly placed by

lordship,

> >>>>>>> sambandha

> >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is

worst.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn)

giving poverty and

sits

> >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn).

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted

which conquers all the

bad

> >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> OR

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and

then Ruby for

Sun+Moon

> >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said

Sanjayji did it.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------

> >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com

> >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze:

> >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

> >>>>>>>> Namaste.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant

discussions between

rafal

> >>>>>>>> and you

> >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post

PV Narasimha Rao's

details.

> >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote

yesterday and my

personal

> >>>>>>>> chart

> >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im

going to explain

what i

> >>>>>>>> seem to be

> >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a

Red Coral.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti

exchanges 3/4 ayanas ,

which

> >>>>>>>> can be seen

> >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3

of 4 have exchanged.

> >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as

Mangal and Merc. have

> >>>>>>>> conjoined ,

> >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa ,

so based on the ones

> >>>>>>>> adjacent to

> >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get

exchanged.

> >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz.

Capricorn - Artha ,

Aquarius -

> >>>>>>>> Kama and

> >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies

Gemini , so the ones

> >>>>>>>> adjacent to it

> >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha

, Gemini - Kaama and

> >>>>>>>> Cancer -

> >>>>>>>> Moksha ..

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does

not get exchanged due

to

> >>>>>>>> yuti is

> >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are

prescribing gemstone for a

> >>>>>>>> political leader

> >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can

safely ingore this

ayana .

> >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and

should be advised.

> >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart ,

Mars has Dig bala which

> >>>>>>>> Zoran already

> >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th

house argala on GL , with

> >>>>>>>> nothing to

> >>>>>>>> obstruct.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has

Sukhagrala on

GL,which

> >>>>>>>> anyways is

> >>>>>>>> more powerful than the

virodhargals , so mangal argala

> >>>>>>>> prevails.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to

notice , lagnesha Merc is

> >>>>>>>> Varki ..

> >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a

Vakri planet is not a

good

> >>>>>>>> idea , as it

> >>>>>>>> only increases the power of

retrogression , hence

coral is

> >>>>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat

assemement.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Comments Please !!

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> humble regards,

> >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> @ .

com

> >>>>>>>> <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...>

> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool.

When I have asked why

Coral

> >>>>>>>> then the

> >>>>>>>> answer was:

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange

effects of conjoined Grahas

so do

> >>>>>>>> gemstones.

> >>>>>>>> Does

> >>>>>>>> > that clarify?

> >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again

that it is only for

parivartana.

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921

> >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00

> >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of

GMT)

> >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N

26' 00"

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any

parivartana and Mangal

is

> >>>>>>>> third and

> >>>>>>>> eight

> >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the

same :

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti

and then for Meena Lagna

Moon

> >>>>>>>> and Surya

> >>>>>>>> yuti

> >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > or

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana

and then why Coral for

> >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to

this simple question then

just

> >>>>>>>> admit it

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool

that I am repeating

myself.

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > ------------ ---------

--------

> >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > rafal@

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > ------------ ---------

--------

> >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > rafal@

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze:

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal,

> >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself

are saying is the same.

Visti has

> >>>>>>>> very

> >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained,

that with yuti Three pada

effects are

> >>>>>>>> reversed,

> >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is

remained uninfluenced. So,

if we

> >>>>>>>> subsitute

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet

conjoined, you are not fully

reversing

> >>>>>>>> their

> >>>>>>>> > > signification, since

one pada of dharma remains

> >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,

> >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger

than yuti, for ekapada.

Only in

> >>>>>>>> Full

> >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana)

, I have seen Sanjayji

> >>>>>>>> recommending the

> >>>>>>>> change

> >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person

was Makara Lagna with Shani

in 5th

> >>>>>>>> house and

> >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so

there was parivartana of

Shani

> >>>>>>>> and Shukra.

> >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly

hit in the second house,

Sanjayji

> >>>>>>>> recommended

> >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to

give the effects of Shukra

> >>>>>>>> specifically. This

> >>>>>>>> was

> >>>>>>>> > > further very wise

choice since Shani rules lagna

as well.

> >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes

> >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info

> >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1.

wordpress. com

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > @

. com

> >>>>>>>> <%40>

> >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>, Rafal

Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ >

> >>>>>>>> > > wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji,

Zoranji, Namaskar

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > The whole

disussion is about if we use the other

gem

> >>>>>>>> based on

> >>>>>>>> yuti

> >>>>>>>> > > or

> >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First

it was parivartana then you say

its

> >>>>>>>> also for

> >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now

> >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for

parivartana only again. If

ninth

> >>>>>>>> lord is with

> >>>>>>>> > > Shani

> >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but

in the period of 9L as then the

> >>>>>>>> yuti graha

> >>>>>>>> Shani

> >>>>>>>> > > will

> >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on

that using Neelam will strenghten

the

> >>>>>>>> yuti graha

> >>>>>>>> > > which is

> >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out

of durbhagya.

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be

good for Mangal if its lord

neecha

> >>>>>>>> sign ? How

> >>>>>>>> can

> >>>>>>>> > > you

> >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem?

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: "

However, this substitution of gems

can

> >>>>>>>> be done

> >>>>>>>> ONLY

> >>>>>>>> > > in

> >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. "

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral

could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed

something?

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > > > ------------

--------- --------

> >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and

Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa.

com

<http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal,

Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you

give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth

lord?

> >>>>>>>> That would

> >>>>>>>> > > give

> >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya

wouldn't it? Thats one of the main

points

> >>>>>>>> that Zoki

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here.

> >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours

sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------

--------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.

com

<http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm

skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah

Shivaya,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear

Rafal,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> What

Visti has written about Sambhanda is

correct.

> >>>>>>>> However,

> >>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in

> >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you

> >>>>>>>> > > have

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us

say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I

> >>>>>>>> would never

> >>>>>>>> > > prescribe

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or

Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed

in

> >>>>>>>> 8th house.

> >>>>>>>> In

> >>>>>>>> > > that

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I

would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for

health.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> The

better way out is to take Ruby because it

> >>>>>>>> would block the

> >>>>>>>> > > Shani

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

improve Mangal. However, in such a case

Surja

> >>>>>>>> should be

> >>>>>>>> in

> >>>>>>>> > > good

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another

> >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl),

which according to Veepreta is very

good

> >>>>>>>> for Mangal

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good

for Shani. Otherwise you may risk

the

> >>>>>>>> rise of bad

> >>>>>>>> > > luck.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually,

it will depend on Shani Mangal

placement

> >>>>>>>> in the

> >>>>>>>> chart.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best

wishes

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran

Radosavljevic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

www.siva-edu. info

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In

 

> >>>>>>>> <%40>

> >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

<srijagannat

h%40. com>,

Rafal

> >>>>>>>> Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om

namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear

Guruji , Namaskar

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets

say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I

> >>>>>>>> should perscribe

> >>>>>>>> > > Neelam

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give

effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

------------ --------- --------

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa.

com

<http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa.

com

<http://rohinaa.com/>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

rafal@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

The final effect is the same, as had the

> >>>>>>>> parivartana done

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

then he would not have cancer.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely

> >>>>>>>> caused by

> >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of

> >>>>>>>> mother from

> >>>>>>>> past

> >>>>>>>> > > life

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Still the advise is the same.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

------------ --------- --------- ---------

----

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>

<http://srigaruda.

com

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

@: visti@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Dear Visti

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Thank you for sharing that information.

> >>>>>>>> Really wonderful

> >>>>>>>> > > mail.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> I was seeing a chart of a person who has

been

> >>>>>>>> detected

> >>>>>>>> with

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> cancer and doctors have given him six

months

> >>>>>>>> time to

> >>>>>>>> live.

> >>>>>>>> > > In

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> his

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> chart jup is in exchance with venus.

Should

> >>>>>>>> he wear a

> >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of diamond?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> If you could kindly take a look and

advice it

> >>>>>>>> woiuld be

> >>>>>>>> > > great..

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 23rd march 1977

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 12:20 pm

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> calcutta

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> -Regards

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rajarshi

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> /*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is

Bhairava -

> >>>>>>>> Shiva

> >>>>>>>> Sutra*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> */

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

> >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@

>/*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> >>>>>>>> gemstone on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> charts ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> <%40>

> >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

<srijagannat

h%40. com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> WOW!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> As far as I am concerned, your email

bellow

> >>>>>>>> is a "Marry

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Thank you so much for shearing it with

us!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Warm Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Maja Strbac

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/*

wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> >>>>>>>> gemstone on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> divisonal charts ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Excuse me for not answering in full in my

> >>>>>>>> last mail, I

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> realise no one learns if no one shares,

so

> >>>>>>>> here is what

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> I

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> have learned and have to share.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> I have gathered the following rules reg.

> >>>>>>>> gemstones with

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> time

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (this will be republished on my website

for

> >>>>>>>> reference):

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The prescription of metals or gemstones

> >>>>>>>> belongs to the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi

meaning to

> >>>>>>>> protect

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> body. This is best to advise when a

person may be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> wrong decision and you want them to

stick to

> >>>>>>>> the right

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> one.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Just as one can advise gemstones to

protect

> >>>>>>>> the body,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> there

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> are gemstones which can remove the

protection

> >>>>>>>> of the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> body,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but

> >>>>>>>> does not

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> mean gemstone, but can also refer to

> >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> precious stone, and is derived from the

word

> >>>>>>>> /ra-/

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-

Williams)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to

nine

> >>>>>>>> types of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl),

vajra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond),

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga

(topaz),

> >>>>>>>> indrani-la

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata

> >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu-

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda

> >>>>>>>> (hessonite). /

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> same reason the word /ratna/ also means

nine

> >>>>>>>> in vedic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been

translated

> >>>>>>>> as Topaz by

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> most,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p.

> >>>>>>>> 174) does

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> state

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> that different colours of the /pushpara-

ga

> >>>>>>>> /can be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> as equal to the /indrani-la

(sapphire) /or

> >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

(Sapphire) /we must

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow)

can

> >>>>>>>> be regarded

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> as

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /

(topaz).

> >>>>>>>> Hence,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> all sapphires fall in the same group of

> >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> colour of them being different also

> >>>>>>>> differentiates the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> effects of wearing them greatly. Details

> >>>>>>>> should be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The Deva are supposed to reside in the

> >>>>>>>> particle of a

> >>>>>>>> ratna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> which

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> is clear, bright, without cracks or

lines in

> >>>>>>>> it and has

> >>>>>>>> no

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing

of a

> >>>>>>>> ratna is

> >>>>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and

> >>>>>>>> protecting you.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratnaka-raka

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna comes under the various metals

known as

> >>>>>>>> Dhatu.

> >>>>>>>> Moon,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and

among

> >>>>>>>> them Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth,

> >>>>>>>> Saturn over the

> >>>>>>>> > > raw

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-

hu

> >>>>>>>> rules over

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence,

Moon

> >>>>>>>> is Ratna

> >>>>>>>> ka-

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and divisional charts as Somanatha

Drekkana and

> >>>>>>>> Somanatha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Navamsha are the most important to judge

the

> >>>>>>>> effect of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> As specifically the Drekkana refers to

ones

> >>>>>>>> karma and

> >>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha

> >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt

> >>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the effects of gemstones. Specifically

this

> >>>>>>>> divisional

> >>>>>>>> > > chart

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> shows ones ojas and how one uses it.

Strong

> >>>>>>>> ojas can

> >>>>>>>> grant

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and hence this divisional chart can be

used

> >>>>>>>> to see ones

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> popularity as well as sexuality where

ones

> >>>>>>>> ojas is used.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The Moon signifying all gemstones is

also known

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> as

/gunatmaka/,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or

> >>>>>>>> attributes.

> >>>>>>>> Hence to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> understand the effects of a gemstone

> >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones

we

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> use the gunachakra. This is also used for

> >>>>>>>> other purposes

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> an integral part of Vedic numerology.

This

> >>>>>>>> will be

> >>>>>>>> > > explained

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> further below.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can

be

> >>>>>>>> understood

> >>>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath.

The

> >>>>>>>> four fingers

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma

respectively

> >>>>>>>> for the

> >>>>>>>> index,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem

is

> >>>>>>>> advised on

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> index

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> finger as it risks blocking moksha and

> >>>>>>>> increasing

> >>>>>>>> ahamkara.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> The

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> following table has been culled out of

the

> >>>>>>>> same work.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Finger

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ruby

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pearl

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from

index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Coral

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from

index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Emerald

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th

from

> >>>>>>>> index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Diamond

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Blue Sapphire

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th

from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hessonite

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th

from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Cats eye

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from

index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can

do

> >>>>>>>> great good

> >>>>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> human race and they have natural

(Naisargika)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

characteristics

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> which will benefit everyone. Example: a

lady

> >>>>>>>> wishing to

> >>>>>>>> be

> >>>>>>>> > > a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> mother would benefit greatly from

wearing a

> >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a

> >>>>>>>> person having

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> should wear a diamond and recite

mrtyunjaya

> >>>>>>>> mantra.

> >>>>>>>> These

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> indications of gemstones can be applied

to

> >>>>>>>> all the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones

and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita,

1992, p.

> >>>>>>>> 1.55)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Translation

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Padmara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ruby

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mukta

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pearl

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Vidruma

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Coral

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Marakata

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Emerald

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pushpara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yellow Topaz

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Vajra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Diamond

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Indrani-la

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Blue Sapphire

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rahu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gomeda

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hessonite

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Vaidu-rya

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Cats eye

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tradition is everything when it comes to

> >>>>>>>> applying any

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> hereunder is some of the advice that I

have

> >>>>>>>> gathered

> >>>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>> > > my

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> teacher.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna should be advised based on the

first,

> >>>>>>>> fifth and

> >>>>>>>> ninth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> house

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are

the

> >>>>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> gemstones

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> will support the native in their purpose

of

> >>>>>>>> life. The

> >>>>>>>> first

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> protects the head and intelligence, the

fifth

> >>>>>>>> protects

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the

> >>>>>>>> legs, and hence

> >>>>>>>> > > the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> native will always select the best path

in

> >>>>>>>> life if the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth

> >>>>>>>> lord is the

> >>>>>>>> most

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> auspicious gemstone. This can also be

used to

> >>>>>>>> advise the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> best

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gemstone for disease in particular parts

of

> >>>>>>>> the body.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause

> >>>>>>>> misfortune,

> >>>>>>>> and in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> such

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha in 9^th

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gemstone advised

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rähu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gold ring

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pearl

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth

> >>>>>>>> house lords

> >>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> inauspicious and cause strife, disease

and loss

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

respectively and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> should not be worn.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> To both the above there are exceptions

which

> >>>>>>>> occur on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yoga.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri

Classes)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The graha give their effects by

affecting the

> >>>>>>>> four

> >>>>>>>> ayana or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of the person's life namely dharma,

artha,

> >>>>>>>> ka-ma and

> >>>>>>>> moksha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> symbolised by the first, second, third or

> >>>>>>>> fourth pada

> >>>>>>>> of a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and

watery

> >>>>>>>> signs

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

respectively.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with

> >>>>>>>> another, then

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> other

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> graha will affect all four ayana of the

> >>>>>>>> former graha.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with

the

> >>>>>>>> sixth lord

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gemstone of the sixth lord should be

advised.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Similarly when a graha is yuti another

graha

> >>>>>>>> it takes on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which

> >>>>>>>> three ayana

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign

ii)

> >>>>>>>> the two signs

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is

> >>>>>>>> joined Venus

> >>>>>>>> then

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> will give the effects of Venus. In such a

> >>>>>>>> case should

> >>>>>>>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then

it

> >>>>>>>> would give

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to

being in

> >>>>>>>> an earthy

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and further as the Navamsha before is

that of

> >>>>>>>> a fiery

> >>>>>>>> sign

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> that after being an airy sign, the Sun

would

> >>>>>>>> give the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-

ayana

> >>>>>>>> (airy) as

> >>>>>>>> well,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> but

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> If three or more graha join then the

> >>>>>>>> interchange of

> >>>>>>>> effects

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> will

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic

> >>>>>>>> indications

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and

> >>>>>>>> Mercury join then

> >>>>>>>> > > the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> highest malefic and highest benefic will

> >>>>>>>> interchange

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> results,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to

> >>>>>>>> interchange results

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury will give not give the results of

> >>>>>>>> anyone.

> >>>>>>>> Similarly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.

Samdristi and

> >>>>>>>> Parivartana

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> dristi are not taken into account for

this

> >>>>>>>> purpose as

> >>>>>>>> they

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> only

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> affect two or one ayana among the full

four

> >>>>>>>> ayana of a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> are still applied when timing events.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Va-rachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> #

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 1

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 2

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 3

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 4

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 5

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 6

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 7

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 8

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rähu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 9

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth,

> >>>>>>>> eighth or

> >>>>>>>> twelfth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> needs to be given to as those graha are

causing

> >>>>>>>> excessive

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> problems to the native. This occurs when

> >>>>>>>> another graha

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> an eclipse on that graha and thus

denying it

> >>>>>>>> of its

> >>>>>>>> > > positive

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was

> >>>>>>>> recalled to have

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces

Lagna, as

> >>>>>>>> Sun was in

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that

> >>>>>>>> specific

> >>>>>>>> scenario

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> native was suffering on account of

repeated

> >>>>>>>> legal

> >>>>>>>> battles.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> The

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> reason being on account of Rähu. This is

further

> >>>>>>>> explained

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> as:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> when a graha occupies the Simhasana

bhavas

> >>>>>>>> (10^th ,

> >>>>>>>> 1^st or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> in that order) that graha causes an

eclipse

> >>>>>>>> on the third

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the

> >>>>>>>> order of

> >>>>>>>> weekdays

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence

when

> >>>>>>>> Rähu is in

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> house the native will have problems on

> >>>>>>>> account of the

> >>>>>>>> house

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> placement and lordship of the Sun in

their life.

> >>>>>>>> Similarly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> if

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is

placed

> >>>>>>>> in the

> >>>>>>>> fifth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> house

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> then the placement and lordship of

Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> will be

> >>>>>>>> > > hampered.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The Varachakra has many uses in matters

of

> >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the logic behind many principles in the

> >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gunachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> #

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Guna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 1

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Satva

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 2

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 3

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 4

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rähu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 5

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rajas

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 6

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 7

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 8

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tamas

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 9

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gunachakra is applied somewhat

differently

> >>>>>>>> than the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

Varachakra.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can

choose

> >>>>>>>> to lock or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> its indications using the fourth or

seventh

> >>>>>>>> graha in the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer

and

> >>>>>>>> tumours are

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in

the

> >>>>>>>> body and is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the

> >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can

block the

> >>>>>>>> spread of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing

diamond

> >>>>>>>> is advised

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> along

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars

can

> >>>>>>>> cause nervous

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> system

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes,

and

> >>>>>>>> to block

> >>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along

with the

> >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Should a graha already be blocking the

native

> >>>>>>>> in one

> >>>>>>>> aspect

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is

> >>>>>>>> required. I.e.

> >>>>>>>> if

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> for

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in

> >>>>>>>> Libra, the

> >>>>>>>> native

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> will

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be bothered by constant disease on

account of

> >>>>>>>> wrong

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

application

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect

can

> >>>>>>>> be deemed

> >>>>>>>> as

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is

advised.

> >>>>>>>> Similarly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha

bhanga

> >>>>>>>> then a

> >>>>>>>> Blue

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the

seventh

> >>>>>>>> graha from

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> in weekday order and can unlock these

negatives.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> There are undoubtedly more applications

of the

> >>>>>>>> Gunachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have

been

> >>>>>>>> presented

> >>>>>>>> > > with

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Having ascertained the gemstone as per

the

> >>>>>>>> Rashi chart

> >>>>>>>> it

> >>>>>>>> > > is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha

Drekkana.

> >>>>>>>> Herein

> >>>>>>>> graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the second house is a ma-raka to the

ojas in

> >>>>>>>> the body

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> will

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> curtail health and sexuality. This

gemstone

> >>>>>>>> is therefore

> >>>>>>>> > > not

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> advised, and neither is the lord of the

> >>>>>>>> twelfth as this

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> sixth lord from the seventh house causing

> >>>>>>>> celibacy to

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth

lords

> >>>>>>>> affect the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> in a similar fashion and those gemstones

should

> >>>>>>>> preferably

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> also

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be avoided. Advising the third lord's

gem can

> >>>>>>>> increase

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> person's libido significantly and

advising

> >>>>>>>> this gemstone

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> should

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the

lagna

> >>>>>>>> lord is the

> >>>>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ensures good health and fame. Apply this

advice

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

intelligently.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ------------ --------- --------- --------

- ----

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> www: http://srigaruda.

<http://srigaruda./>

com

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> chandan486 skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> dear visti,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> namaste.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Well , the point that he landed into

> >>>>>>>> troubles with the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Rahu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still

you

> >>>>>>>> havent

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered

... is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> mere conj enough to wear each other's

> >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or

> >>>>>>>> is it

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> real

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> parivartana that fulfils the condition

for

> >>>>>>>> gemtsone

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange

!!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> however , first we need to really

understand

> >>>>>>>> , that

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

conjunction

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> actually makes planets behave like each

other

> >>>>>>>> completely ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> only do

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> they give each others effects in the

dasha ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> and if conj makes planets behave like

each

> >>>>>>>> other ? then

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> parivartana do ? does it also do the

same ?

> >>>>>>>> if not the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> same ,

then

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> whats different abt a parivartana then

a conj ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> humble regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> <srijagannat h%40.

com>,

> >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal

issues

> >>>>>>>> and jail

> >>>>>>>> time,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> but

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> through his

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of

Mars he was

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

untouched. It was

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> not

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw

problems,

> >>>>>>>> hence

> >>>>>>>> pointing

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> out

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> clearly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > that the wearing of the Coral during

Mars

> >>>>>>>> mahadasa

> >>>>>>>> was

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> advise...

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister

after

> >>>>>>>> wearing it!

> >>>>>>>> How

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > astrologers can boast of a client

> >>>>>>>> attaining that once

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> following

a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > remedial measure?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> >>>>>>>> ----

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > www: http://srigaruda.

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./>

com <http://srigaruda.

com/

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda.

com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda.

com/

<http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > @: visti@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > namaste !

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > swee - you are right abt PV

Narasimha

> >>>>>>>> going to jail

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> being

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > held up in litigation (6th house

> >>>>>>>> effects) , that

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> came

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> came

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > upon unto him , after some of his

own

> >>>>>>>> party members

> >>>>>>>> > > and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> associates

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery

and

> >>>>>>>> even showed

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> briefcase ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > which he was actually deliveered

INR 10

> >>>>>>>> million .

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a

red

> >>>>>>>> coral is

> >>>>>>>> being

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> advised to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> worn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars

and

> >>>>>>>> Mercury in

> >>>>>>>> 10th

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> House ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> merc

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow

> >>>>>>>> comprehend the

> >>>>>>>> basic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> behind

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > this ... and i still remember

reading

> >>>>>>>> somehwere on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> your

website

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> where

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > you mentioned , only complete

> >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> houses

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > conj simply gives results of each

others in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's

.... but

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> actual

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > potency and maleficience /

benificience

> >>>>>>>> is based

> >>>>>>>> upon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi /

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Dasamasa !

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

> >>>>>>>> gemstone just

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> rasi and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > not even consider damasa ,

especially

> >>>>>>>> when career

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> concerend ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in

Lagna in

> >>>>>>>> Narasimha's

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> case ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> somehow

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > makes me believe , it should have

been

> >>>>>>>> the Emerald

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> should

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> have

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga

with

> >>>>>>>> the Sun ,

> >>>>>>>> so

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> emerald.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this

> >>>>>>>> thing with

> >>>>>>>> out ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> bought

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > it up !!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > humbly yours,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ------------ --------- --------- --------

-

> >>>>>>>> --------- --------

> >>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

------------

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Add more friends to your messenger and

enjoy!

> >>>>>>>> Invite

> >>>>>>>> them

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> now.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. /

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> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

 

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

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> >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>

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> >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg.

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> >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

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> >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 -

> >>>>>>>> Release

> >>>>>>>> > > Date:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

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> >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------

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> >>>>>>>> --------- --------- -

> >>>>>>>> > > -------

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > > No virus

found in this incoming message.

> >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by

AVG - http://www.avg.

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> >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>

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> >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > > Version:

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> >>>>>>>> Release

> >>>>>>>> Date:

> >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31

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> >>>>>>>> ------

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > No virus found in this

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> >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.

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<http://www.avg.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 /

Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 -

> >>>>>>>> Release Date:

> >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31

> >>>>>>>> > >

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> >>>>>>>> >

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> >>>>>>>> ----------------------

-----------------

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming

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> >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.

com

> >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus

Database: 270.9.19/1853 -

Release 2008-12-17 08:31

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Answers to each of your points.

 

a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk

to Sarajit.

Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in

Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow

otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we

say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the

Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin

with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural

significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of

Mercury a friend or colleague will fall.

Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article

you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga.

 

b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame

dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh

being known for his art but not really the rest of his life.

The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so

therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon

in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent

of this fame is a separate issue.

Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the

Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra).

 

c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I

have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its

usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as

others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as

that would clarify in more detail what the second house does.

 

d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would

fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e.

there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this

would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined

a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh

happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

www: http://srigaruda.com

@: visti

 

 

Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own

family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence

should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting

the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok

for

rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is

Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would

help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga

and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal

malefic for Budha and for Kanya.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa

case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra

is in

AL

 

c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of

2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus

placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita.

 

d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting

Mangal..I am confused.

 

My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

Consultations and Pages:

http://rohinaa.com

 

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar.

2 points need to be raised.

I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange.

II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So

in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra

Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known

for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You

cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak.

Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas

involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh.

Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined

the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly

strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his

Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv

Gandhi would suffer.

Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh

Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong

to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure

going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would

last his tenure as Prime Minister.

 

So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who

advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not

wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial

reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his

predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would

have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv.

I hope this clarifies once again.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

chandan486 skrev:

 

 

||aum namah shivaya||

 

Dear Visti,

Namaste.

 

Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im

aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as

VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to

gain..

 

So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like

killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is

that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these

gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next

life !

 

So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good

idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some

body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our

responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!

 

I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but

if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could

flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !

 

Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his

negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!

 

humble regards,

Chandan s sabarwal.

 

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji, Namaskar

>

> Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to

 

> Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no

 

> yuti-exchange?

>

> If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where

its

> only parivartana as that is not clear?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal

>

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes

and

> > previous lessons. For those who have access to the

Varahamihira

list

> > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson

5,

where

> > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective.

> >

> > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when

Narasimha

> > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very

sexually

> > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3?

Hence I

wrote

> > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3

need

to be

> > intelligently applied.

> >

> > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a

Kendra

> > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was

that

Mars

> > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence

another

> > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.

> >

> > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic

aspecting/joining

> > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear

its

> > gemstone by any chance.

> > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.

> >

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >

> >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> >>

> >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi

is

similar

> >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.

> >>

> >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives

rajayoga,

> >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case

> >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case),

not the

8L -

> >> enemy. You can say that there

> >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case

with

gems

> >> as Sanjayji example is indicating.

> >>

> >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord

is

advised

> >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based

> >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per

your

teachings.

> >>

> >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should

make it

> >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,

> >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native!

No yuti

rule

> >> for gems per your teachings.

> >>

> >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Rafal Gendarz

> >> -----------------------------

> >> Consultations and Pages:

> >> http://rohinaa.com

> >> rafal

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>

> >>> ??? ??? ?????

> >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is

occuring in

the

> >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing

that when

the

> >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his

Bhadra yoga

becomes

> >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it

is

conjoined

> >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance.

> >>>

> >>

> >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the

malificence of

the

> >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars

are the most

> >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will

exchange

results.

> >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe

affliction and

curse

> >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet

yoga on

> >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits

were launched

on him.

> >>>

> >>> So finally its because they do exchange results,

point is that

this

> >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic

house.

I.e.

> >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle

is that the

> >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so

if Mercury,

Mars

> >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he

personally

would

> >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.

> >>>

> >>> So finally the house placement must also be good.

Specifically

first

> >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity.

> >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend

falls.

Lagnesh

> >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the

remedy). And so

it

> >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through

which his

colleague

> >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics,

and they

all

> >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader.

> >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars

(also Varesha)

in

> >>> the tenth.

> >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> ----------

> >>> www: http://srigaruda.com

> >>> @: visti

> >>>

> >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >>>

> >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar

> >>>>

> >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still

dusthana lord

in

> >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.

> >>>>

> >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good

for Narasimha

Rao?

> >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated.

> >>>>

> >>>> Regards,

> >>>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>> -----------------------------

> >>>> Consultations and Pages:

> >>>> http://rohinaa.com

> >>>> rafal

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>>>

> >>>>> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always

good to give the

> >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems,

and we cannot do

so

> >>>>> blindly.

> >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun

joined for

Pisces

> >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun

in such a

combination

> >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house

problems depending

on

> >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave

if the two were

> >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house

then wearing a

Ruby

> >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is

born on a Monday

or

> >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health.

> >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house

it would prove

to be

> >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is

no doubt, i.e.

don't

> >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a

trikona by

wearing

> >>>>> the other grahas gemstone.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by

itself as if such a

> >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be

devastating to wear

such a

> >>>>> gemstone.

> >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>> ----------

> >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com

> >>>>> @: visti

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the

battle Sanjyaji

> >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here

Shukra

Lagnadhipati is

> >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still

> >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald

(Budha is 6L). Based

on

> >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule,

therefore we cant say

that

> >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao

> >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it

is opposite to

previous

> >>>>>> teachings and examples.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>> -----------------------------

> >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com

> >>>>>> rafal

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Dear Rafal

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this

excahnge of mails and

getting

> >>>>>>> a little confused. You said:

> >>>>>>> //

> >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never

recommend gem based on

yuti

> >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti

between trikona lord and

any

> >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and

dusthana lord?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> -Regards

> >>>>>>> Rajarshi

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> /*

> >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is

Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >>>>>>> */

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz

/<starsuponme/*

wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

> >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing gemstone on

> >>>>>>> divisonal charts ?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008,

6:25 PM

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never

recommend gem based on

> >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords.

Its also hard to

seen

> >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after

all dharma

> >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality

but also to

marriage,

> >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big

parts of life for

> >>>>>>> materialists.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra

book then we know how

much

> >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so

called temporal

> >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely

temporal malefic

> >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra

and tenth bhava. If

we

> >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then

based solely on this

> >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite

unfortunate decision.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal

will hit it as its

> >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is

enemy in naisargika and

> >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its

badly placed by

lordship,

> >>>>>>> sambandha

> >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is

worst.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn)

giving poverty and

sits

> >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn).

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted

which conquers all the

bad

> >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> OR

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and

then Ruby for

Sun+Moon

> >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said

Sanjayji did it.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------

> >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com

> >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze:

> >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

> >>>>>>>> Namaste.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant

discussions between

rafal

> >>>>>>>> and you

> >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post

PV Narasimha Rao's

details.

> >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote

yesterday and my

personal

> >>>>>>>> chart

> >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im

going to explain

what i

> >>>>>>>> seem to be

> >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a

Red Coral.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti

exchanges 3/4 ayanas ,

which

> >>>>>>>> can be seen

> >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3

of 4 have exchanged.

> >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as

Mangal and Merc. have

> >>>>>>>> conjoined ,

> >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa ,

so based on the ones

> >>>>>>>> adjacent to

> >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get

exchanged.

> >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz.

Capricorn - Artha ,

Aquarius -

> >>>>>>>> Kama and

> >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies

Gemini , so the ones

> >>>>>>>> adjacent to it

> >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha

, Gemini - Kaama and

> >>>>>>>> Cancer -

> >>>>>>>> Moksha ..

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does

not get exchanged due

to

> >>>>>>>> yuti is

> >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are

prescribing gemstone for a

> >>>>>>>> political leader

> >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can

safely ingore this

ayana .

> >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and

should be advised.

> >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart ,

Mars has Dig bala which

> >>>>>>>> Zoran already

> >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th

house argala on GL , with

> >>>>>>>> nothing to

> >>>>>>>> obstruct.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has

Sukhagrala on

GL,which

> >>>>>>>> anyways is

> >>>>>>>> more powerful than the

virodhargals , so mangal argala

> >>>>>>>> prevails.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to

notice , lagnesha Merc is

> >>>>>>>> Varki ..

> >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a

Vakri planet is not a

good

> >>>>>>>> idea , as it

> >>>>>>>> only increases the power of

retrogression , hence

coral is

> >>>>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat

assemement.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Comments Please !!

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> humble regards,

> >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> @ .

com

> >>>>>>>> <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...>

> >>>>>>>> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool.

When I have asked why

Coral

> >>>>>>>> then the

> >>>>>>>> answer was:

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange

effects of conjoined Grahas

so do

> >>>>>>>> gemstones.

> >>>>>>>> Does

> >>>>>>>> > that clarify?

> >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again

that it is only for

parivartana.

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921

> >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00

> >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of

GMT)

> >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N

26' 00"

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any

parivartana and Mangal

is

> >>>>>>>> third and

> >>>>>>>> eight

> >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the

same :

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti

and then for Meena Lagna

Moon

> >>>>>>>> and Surya

> >>>>>>>> yuti

> >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > or

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana

and then why Coral for

> >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to

this simple question then

just

> >>>>>>>> admit it

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool

that I am repeating

myself.

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > ------------ ---------

--------

> >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > rafal@

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > ------------ ---------

--------

> >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > rafal@

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze:

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal,

> >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself

are saying is the same.

Visti has

> >>>>>>>> very

> >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained,

that with yuti Three pada

effects are

> >>>>>>>> reversed,

> >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is

remained uninfluenced. So,

if we

> >>>>>>>> subsitute

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet

conjoined, you are not fully

reversing

> >>>>>>>> their

> >>>>>>>> > > signification, since

one pada of dharma remains

> >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,

> >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger

than yuti, for ekapada.

Only in

> >>>>>>>> Full

> >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana)

, I have seen Sanjayji

> >>>>>>>> recommending the

> >>>>>>>> change

> >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person

was Makara Lagna with Shani

in 5th

> >>>>>>>> house and

> >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so

there was parivartana of

Shani

> >>>>>>>> and Shukra.

> >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly

hit in the second house,

Sanjayji

> >>>>>>>> recommended

> >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to

give the effects of Shukra

> >>>>>>>> specifically. This

> >>>>>>>> was

> >>>>>>>> > > further very wise

choice since Shani rules lagna

as well.

> >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes

> >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info

> >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1.

wordpress. com

> >>>>>>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > @

. com

> >>>>>>>> <%40>

> >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>, Rafal

Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ >

> >>>>>>>> > > wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji,

Zoranji, Namaskar

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > The whole

disussion is about if we use the other

gem

> >>>>>>>> based on

> >>>>>>>> yuti

> >>>>>>>> > > or

> >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First

it was parivartana then you say

its

> >>>>>>>> also for

> >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now

> >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for

parivartana only again. If

ninth

> >>>>>>>> lord is with

> >>>>>>>> > > Shani

> >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but

in the period of 9L as then the

> >>>>>>>> yuti graha

> >>>>>>>> Shani

> >>>>>>>> > > will

> >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on

that using Neelam will strenghten

the

> >>>>>>>> yuti graha

> >>>>>>>> > > which is

> >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out

of durbhagya.

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be

good for Mangal if its lord

neecha

> >>>>>>>> sign ? How

> >>>>>>>> can

> >>>>>>>> > > you

> >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem?

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: "

However, this substitution of gems

can

> >>>>>>>> be done

> >>>>>>>> ONLY

> >>>>>>>> > > in

> >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. "

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral

could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed

something?

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > > > ------------

--------- --------

> >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and

Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa.

com

<http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal,

Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you

give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth

lord?

> >>>>>>>> That would

> >>>>>>>> > > give

> >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya

wouldn't it? Thats one of the main

points

> >>>>>>>> that Zoki

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here.

> >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours

sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------

--------- --------- --------- ----

> >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda.

com

<http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm

skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah

Shivaya,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear

Rafal,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> What

Visti has written about Sambhanda is

correct.

> >>>>>>>> However,

> >>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in

> >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you

> >>>>>>>> > > have

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us

say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I

> >>>>>>>> would never

> >>>>>>>> > > prescribe

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or

Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed

in

> >>>>>>>> 8th house.

> >>>>>>>> In

> >>>>>>>> > > that

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I

would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for

health.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> The

better way out is to take Ruby because it

> >>>>>>>> would block the

> >>>>>>>> > > Shani

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

improve Mangal. However, in such a case

Surja

> >>>>>>>> should be

> >>>>>>>> in

> >>>>>>>> > > good

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another

> >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl),

which according to Veepreta is very

good

> >>>>>>>> for Mangal

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good

for Shani. Otherwise you may risk

the

> >>>>>>>> rise of bad

> >>>>>>>> > > luck.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually,

it will depend on Shani Mangal

placement

> >>>>>>>> in the

> >>>>>>>> chart.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best

wishes

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran

Radosavljevic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In

 

> >>>>>>>> <%40>

> >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat

h%40. com>,

Rafal

> >>>>>>>> Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om

namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear

Guruji , Namaskar

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets

say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I

> >>>>>>>> should perscribe

> >>>>>>>> > > Neelam

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give

effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Rafal Gendarz

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

------------ --------- --------

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Consultations and Pages:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa.

com

<http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa.

com

<http://rohinaa.com/>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

rafal@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

The final effect is the same, as had the

> >>>>>>>> parivartana done

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

then he would not have cancer.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely

> >>>>>>>> caused by

> >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of

> >>>>>>>> mother from

> >>>>>>>> past

> >>>>>>>> > > life

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Still the advise is the same.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

------------ --------- --------- ---------

----

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>

<http://srigaruda.

com

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

@: visti@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Dear Visti

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Thank you for sharing that information.

> >>>>>>>> Really wonderful

> >>>>>>>> > > mail.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> I was seeing a chart of a person who has

been

> >>>>>>>> detected

> >>>>>>>> with

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> cancer and doctors have given him six

months

> >>>>>>>> time to

> >>>>>>>> live.

> >>>>>>>> > > In

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> his

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> chart jup is in exchance with venus.

Should

> >>>>>>>> he wear a

> >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of diamond?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> If you could kindly take a look and

advice it

> >>>>>>>> woiuld be

> >>>>>>>> > > great..

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 23rd march 1977

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 12:20 pm

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> calcutta

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> -Regards

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rajarshi

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> /*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is

Bhairava -

> >>>>>>>> Shiva

> >>>>>>>> Sutra*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> */

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

> >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@

>/*

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> >>>>>>>> gemstone on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> charts ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> <%40>

> >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> WOW!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> As far as I am concerned, your email

bellow

> >>>>>>>> is a "Marry

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Thank you so much for shearing it with

us!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Warm Regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Maja Strbac

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/*

wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Choosing

> >>>>>>>> gemstone on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> divisonal charts ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Excuse me for not answering in full in my

> >>>>>>>> last mail, I

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> realise no one learns if no one shares,

so

> >>>>>>>> here is what

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> I

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> have learned and have to share.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> I have gathered the following rules reg.

> >>>>>>>> gemstones with

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> time

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (this will be republished on my website

for

> >>>>>>>> reference):

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The prescription of metals or gemstones

> >>>>>>>> belongs to the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi

meaning to

> >>>>>>>> protect

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> body. This is best to advise when a

person may be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> wrong decision and you want them to

stick to

> >>>>>>>> the right

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> one.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Just as one can advise gemstones to

protect

> >>>>>>>> the body,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> there

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> are gemstones which can remove the

protection

> >>>>>>>> of the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> body,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but

> >>>>>>>> does not

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> mean gemstone, but can also refer to

> >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> precious stone, and is derived from the

word

> >>>>>>>> /ra-/

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-

Williams)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to

nine

> >>>>>>>> types of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl),

vajra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond),

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga

(topaz),

> >>>>>>>> indrani-la

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata

> >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu-

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda

> >>>>>>>> (hessonite). /

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> same reason the word /ratna/ also means

nine

> >>>>>>>> in vedic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been

translated

> >>>>>>>> as Topaz by

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> most,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p.

> >>>>>>>> 174) does

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> state

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> that different colours of the /pushpara-

ga

> >>>>>>>> /can be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> as equal to the /indrani-la

(sapphire) /or

> >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

(Sapphire) /we must

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow)

can

> >>>>>>>> be regarded

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> as

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /

(topaz).

> >>>>>>>> Hence,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> all sapphires fall in the same group of

> >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> colour of them being different also

> >>>>>>>> differentiates the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> effects of wearing them greatly. Details

> >>>>>>>> should be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The Deva are supposed to reside in the

> >>>>>>>> particle of a

> >>>>>>>> ratna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> which

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> is clear, bright, without cracks or

lines in

> >>>>>>>> it and has

> >>>>>>>> no

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing

of a

> >>>>>>>> ratna is

> >>>>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and

> >>>>>>>> protecting you.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratnaka-raka

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna comes under the various metals

known as

> >>>>>>>> Dhatu.

> >>>>>>>> Moon,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and

among

> >>>>>>>> them Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth,

> >>>>>>>> Saturn over the

> >>>>>>>> > > raw

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-

hu

> >>>>>>>> rules over

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence,

Moon

> >>>>>>>> is Ratna

> >>>>>>>> ka-

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and divisional charts as Somanatha

Drekkana and

> >>>>>>>> Somanatha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Navamsha are the most important to judge

the

> >>>>>>>> effect of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> As specifically the Drekkana refers to

ones

> >>>>>>>> karma and

> >>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha

> >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt

> >>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the effects of gemstones. Specifically

this

> >>>>>>>> divisional

> >>>>>>>> > > chart

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> shows ones ojas and how one uses it.

Strong

> >>>>>>>> ojas can

> >>>>>>>> grant

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and hence this divisional chart can be

used

> >>>>>>>> to see ones

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> popularity as well as sexuality where

ones

> >>>>>>>> ojas is used.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The Moon signifying all gemstones is

also known

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> as

/gunatmaka/,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or

> >>>>>>>> attributes.

> >>>>>>>> Hence to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> understand the effects of a gemstone

> >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones

we

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> use the gunachakra. This is also used for

> >>>>>>>> other purposes

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> an integral part of Vedic numerology.

This

> >>>>>>>> will be

> >>>>>>>> > > explained

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> further below.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can

be

> >>>>>>>> understood

> >>>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath.

The

> >>>>>>>> four fingers

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma

respectively

> >>>>>>>> for the

> >>>>>>>> index,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem

is

> >>>>>>>> advised on

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> index

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> finger as it risks blocking moksha and

> >>>>>>>> increasing

> >>>>>>>> ahamkara.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> The

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> following table has been culled out of

the

> >>>>>>>> same work.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Finger

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ruby

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pearl

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from

index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Coral

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from

index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Emerald

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th

from

> >>>>>>>> index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Diamond

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Blue Sapphire

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th

from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hessonite

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th

from index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Cats eye

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from

index)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can

do

> >>>>>>>> great good

> >>>>>>>> for

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> human race and they have natural

(Naisargika)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

characteristics

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> which will benefit everyone. Example: a

lady

> >>>>>>>> wishing to

> >>>>>>>> be

> >>>>>>>> > > a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> mother would benefit greatly from

wearing a

> >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a

> >>>>>>>> person having

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> should wear a diamond and recite

mrtyunjaya

> >>>>>>>> mantra.

> >>>>>>>> These

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> indications of gemstones can be applied

to

> >>>>>>>> all the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones

and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita,

1992, p.

> >>>>>>>> 1.55)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Translation

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Padmara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ruby

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mukta

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pearl

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Vidruma

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Coral

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Marakata

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Emerald

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pushpara-ga

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yellow Topaz

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Vajra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Diamond

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Indrani-la

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Blue Sapphire

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rahu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gomeda

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hessonite

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Vaidu-rya

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Cats eye

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tradition is everything when it comes to

> >>>>>>>> applying any

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> hereunder is some of the advice that I

have

> >>>>>>>> gathered

> >>>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>> > > my

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> teacher.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ratna should be advised based on the

first,

> >>>>>>>> fifth and

> >>>>>>>> ninth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> house

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are

the

> >>>>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> gemstones

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> will support the native in their purpose

of

> >>>>>>>> life. The

> >>>>>>>> first

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> protects the head and intelligence, the

fifth

> >>>>>>>> protects

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the

> >>>>>>>> legs, and hence

> >>>>>>>> > > the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> native will always select the best path

in

> >>>>>>>> life if the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth

> >>>>>>>> lord is the

> >>>>>>>> most

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> auspicious gemstone. This can also be

used to

> >>>>>>>> advise the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> best

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gemstone for disease in particular parts

of

> >>>>>>>> the body.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause

> >>>>>>>> misfortune,

> >>>>>>>> and in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> such

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha in 9^th

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gemstone advised

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rähu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gold ring

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Pearl

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth

> >>>>>>>> house lords

> >>>>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> inauspicious and cause strife, disease

and loss

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

respectively and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> should not be worn.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> To both the above there are exceptions

which

> >>>>>>>> occur on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yoga.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri

Classes)

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The graha give their effects by

affecting the

> >>>>>>>> four

> >>>>>>>> ayana or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of the person's life namely dharma,

artha,

> >>>>>>>> ka-ma and

> >>>>>>>> moksha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> symbolised by the first, second, third or

> >>>>>>>> fourth pada

> >>>>>>>> of a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and

watery

> >>>>>>>> signs

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

respectively.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with

> >>>>>>>> another, then

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> other

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> graha will affect all four ayana of the

> >>>>>>>> former graha.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with

the

> >>>>>>>> sixth lord

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gemstone of the sixth lord should be

advised.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Similarly when a graha is yuti another

graha

> >>>>>>>> it takes on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which

> >>>>>>>> three ayana

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign

ii)

> >>>>>>>> the two signs

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is

> >>>>>>>> joined Venus

> >>>>>>>> then

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> will give the effects of Venus. In such a

> >>>>>>>> case should

> >>>>>>>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > be

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then

it

> >>>>>>>> would give

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to

being in

> >>>>>>>> an earthy

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and further as the Navamsha before is

that of

> >>>>>>>> a fiery

> >>>>>>>> sign

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> that after being an airy sign, the Sun

would

> >>>>>>>> give the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-

ayana

> >>>>>>>> (airy) as

> >>>>>>>> well,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> but

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> If three or more graha join then the

> >>>>>>>> interchange of

> >>>>>>>> effects

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> will

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic

> >>>>>>>> indications

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and

> >>>>>>>> Mercury join then

> >>>>>>>> > > the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> highest malefic and highest benefic will

> >>>>>>>> interchange

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> results,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to

> >>>>>>>> interchange results

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury will give not give the results of

> >>>>>>>> anyone.

> >>>>>>>> Similarly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.

Samdristi and

> >>>>>>>> Parivartana

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> dristi are not taken into account for

this

> >>>>>>>> purpose as

> >>>>>>>> they

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> only

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> affect two or one ayana among the full

four

> >>>>>>>> ayana of a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> are still applied when timing events.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Va-rachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> #

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 1

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 2

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 3

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 4

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 5

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 6

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 7

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 8

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rähu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 9

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth,

> >>>>>>>> eighth or

> >>>>>>>> twelfth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> needs to be given to as those graha are

causing

> >>>>>>>> excessive

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> problems to the native. This occurs when

> >>>>>>>> another graha

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> an eclipse on that graha and thus

denying it

> >>>>>>>> of its

> >>>>>>>> > > positive

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was

> >>>>>>>> recalled to have

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces

Lagna, as

> >>>>>>>> Sun was in

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that

> >>>>>>>> specific

> >>>>>>>> scenario

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> native was suffering on account of

repeated

> >>>>>>>> legal

> >>>>>>>> battles.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> The

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> reason being on account of Rähu. This is

further

> >>>>>>>> explained

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> as:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> when a graha occupies the Simhasana

bhavas

> >>>>>>>> (10^th ,

> >>>>>>>> 1^st or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> in that order) that graha causes an

eclipse

> >>>>>>>> on the third

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the

> >>>>>>>> order of

> >>>>>>>> weekdays

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence

when

> >>>>>>>> Rähu is in

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> house the native will have problems on

> >>>>>>>> account of the

> >>>>>>>> house

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> placement and lordship of the Sun in

their life.

> >>>>>>>> Similarly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> if

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is

placed

> >>>>>>>> in the

> >>>>>>>> fifth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> house

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> then the placement and lordship of

Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> will be

> >>>>>>>> > > hampered.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> The Varachakra has many uses in matters

of

> >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the logic behind many principles in the

> >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gunachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> #

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Guna

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 1

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sun

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Satva

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 2

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 3

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Jupiter

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 4

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rähu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 5

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mercury

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Rajas

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 6

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Venus

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 7

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Ketu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 8

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Saturn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Tamas

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> 9

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Mars

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Gunachakra is applied somewhat

differently

> >>>>>>>> than the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

Varachakra.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can

choose

> >>>>>>>> to lock or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> its indications using the fourth or

seventh

> >>>>>>>> graha in the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer

and

> >>>>>>>> tumours are

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in

the

> >>>>>>>> body and is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the

> >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can

block the

> >>>>>>>> spread of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing

diamond

> >>>>>>>> is advised

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> along

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars

can

> >>>>>>>> cause nervous

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> system

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes,

and

> >>>>>>>> to block

> >>>>>>>> this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along

with the

> >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Should a graha already be blocking the

native

> >>>>>>>> in one

> >>>>>>>> aspect

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is

> >>>>>>>> required. I.e.

> >>>>>>>> if

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> for

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in

> >>>>>>>> Libra, the

> >>>>>>>> native

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> will

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be bothered by constant disease on

account of

> >>>>>>>> wrong

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

application

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect

can

> >>>>>>>> be deemed

> >>>>>>>> as

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is

advised.

> >>>>>>>> Similarly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha

bhanga

> >>>>>>>> then a

> >>>>>>>> Blue

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the

seventh

> >>>>>>>> graha from

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> in weekday order and can unlock these

negatives.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> There are undoubtedly more applications

of the

> >>>>>>>> Gunachakra

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have

been

> >>>>>>>> presented

> >>>>>>>> > > with

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Having ascertained the gemstone as per

the

> >>>>>>>> Rashi chart

> >>>>>>>> it

> >>>>>>>> > > is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha

Drekkana.

> >>>>>>>> Herein

> >>>>>>>> graha

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> the second house is a ma-raka to the

ojas in

> >>>>>>>> the body

> >>>>>>>> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> will

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> curtail health and sexuality. This

gemstone

> >>>>>>>> is therefore

> >>>>>>>> > > not

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> advised, and neither is the lord of the

> >>>>>>>> twelfth as this

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> sixth lord from the seventh house causing

> >>>>>>>> celibacy to

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth

lords

> >>>>>>>> affect the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> in a similar fashion and those gemstones

should

> >>>>>>>> preferably

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> also

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be avoided. Advising the third lord's

gem can

> >>>>>>>> increase

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> person's libido significantly and

advising

> >>>>>>>> this gemstone

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> should

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the

lagna

> >>>>>>>> lord is the

> >>>>>>>> best

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ensures good health and fame. Apply this

advice

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

intelligently.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> ------------ --------- --------- --------

- ----

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> www: http://srigaruda.

<http://srigaruda./>

com

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>> chandan486 skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> dear visti,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> namaste.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Well , the point that he landed into

> >>>>>>>> troubles with the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Rahu

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still

you

> >>>>>>>> havent

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered

... is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> mere conj enough to wear each other's

> >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or

> >>>>>>>> is it

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> real

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> parivartana that fulfils the condition

for

> >>>>>>>> gemtsone

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange

!!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> however , first we need to really

understand

> >>>>>>>> , that

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

conjunction

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> actually makes planets behave like each

other

> >>>>>>>> completely ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> or

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> only do

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> they give each others effects in the

dasha ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> and if conj makes planets behave like

each

> >>>>>>>> other ? then

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> parivartana do ? does it also do the

same ?

> >>>>>>>> if not the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> same ,

then

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> whats different abt a parivartana then

a conj ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> humble regards,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> <srijagannat

h%40.

com>,

> >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal

issues

> >>>>>>>> and jail

> >>>>>>>> time,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> but

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> through his

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of

Mars he was

> >>>>>>>> > > > >>

untouched. It was

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> not

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw

problems,

> >>>>>>>> hence

> >>>>>>>> pointing

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> out

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> clearly

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > that the wearing of the Coral during

Mars

> >>>>>>>> mahadasa

> >>>>>>>> was

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> advise...

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister

after

> >>>>>>>> wearing it!

> >>>>>>>> How

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > astrologers can boast of a client

> >>>>>>>> attaining that once

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> following

a

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > remedial measure?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > ------------ --------- --------- -----

----

> >>>>>>>> ----

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > www: http://srigaruda.

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./>

com <http://srigaruda.

com/

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda.

com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda.

com/

<http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > @: visti@

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > namaste !

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > swee - you are right abt PV

Narasimha

> >>>>>>>> going to jail

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> being

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > held up in litigation (6th house

> >>>>>>>> effects) , that

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> came

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> came

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > upon unto him , after some of his

own

> >>>>>>>> party members

> >>>>>>>> > > and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> associates

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery

and

> >>>>>>>> even showed

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> briefcase ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > which he was actually deliveered

INR 10

> >>>>>>>> million .

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a

red

> >>>>>>>> coral is

> >>>>>>>> being

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> advised to

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> worn

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars

and

> >>>>>>>> Mercury in

> >>>>>>>> 10th

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> House ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> merc

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow

> >>>>>>>> comprehend the

> >>>>>>>> basic

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> behind

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > this ... and i still remember

reading

> >>>>>>>> somehwere on

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> your

website

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> where

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > you mentioned , only complete

> >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> houses

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > conj simply gives results of each

others in

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's

.... but

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> actual

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > potency and maleficience /

benificience

> >>>>>>>> is based

> >>>>>>>> upon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi /

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> Dasamasa !

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

> >>>>>>>> gemstone just

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> rasi and

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > not even consider damasa ,

especially

> >>>>>>>> when career

> >>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> concerend ?

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in

Lagna in

> >>>>>>>> Narasimha's

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> case ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> somehow

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > makes me believe , it should have

been

> >>>>>>>> the Emerald

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> should

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> have

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga

with

> >>>>>>>> the Sun ,

> >>>>>>>> so

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> emerald.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this

> >>>>>>>> thing with

> >>>>>>>> out ,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> bought

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > it up !!

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > humbly yours,

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> > >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>> >

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

>>

> >>>>>>>> > > > >> >

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हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Swee, Namaskar.

Mars is most malefic and will transfer his energies to Mercury, hence

Mars becomes the first choice.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti

 

 

Swee Chan skrev:

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

 

Dear Visti,

Namaste

 

 

..........and I guess Mars is the only graha who is absolved of

his "technicoloured spectacles" being combust. So WHO gets the first

position in digbala? Sun, being the King or combust Mars the commander

in digbala?

 

 

love,

 

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

On 20 Dec 2008, at 12:20, Visti Larsen wrote:

 

हरे

राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Swee, Namaskar.

Thanks for the clarification reg. Topaz. I did read one of your old

mails reg. the same recently.

Please publish your emails reg. the gemstones somewhere so that we can

make references to them in future publications as had I referred to

your email in my write-up it would amount to pure hearsay as its

difficult to refer to emails with some credibility.

Reg. PV's chart, do see my recent email to Rafal and Chandan. Both Mars

and Sun have Digbala in his chart btw.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Swee Chan skrev:

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

 

Dear Chandan,

Namaste

 

 

Thanks for making my laugh for the day :)) 

 

 

Mistakes/misunderstandings are my own................

Your analysis is absolutely correct and the reason why there

are 12 signs, each with our own ascendant lords to contend and problems

are compounded the 6th, 8th and 12th and their lords to "work" on so as

to better ourselves. The deities who "own" those houses especially the

8th are obviously not happy with us. This is especially so if there is

rasi drishti. Annulment or buoyancy and appeasement of the deity is

possible if those planets in the navamsa are not detrimental.

 

 

Coming to the various anecdotes in the various khandas of

the Padma Purana about Indra versus Bala asura, I will attempt my own

analysis:

 

 

Bhumikhanda : Bala asura offered his daily meditation close

to the sea - Sign is Pisces. Bala asura who was oblivious to Indra's

presence, was immediately killed with Indra's vajra. 

Analogy: The annulment of the malfeasance of a malefic in

the 12th house or in the sign Pisces, can be annulled by the presence

of a benefic (Indra-Brihaspati ie Jupiter, since it is stated that

Brihaspati was a plenary portion of Indra.) 

 

 

Uttarakhanda: The subsequent anecdote on the war between

suras and asuras, Varuna, the overlord and deity over gemstones came

into the picture. According to Mahabharata, Varuna fathered Bala asura.

Being one of the Adityas, he is the naisargika karaka for the 4th/Karka

and Indra is the lord of the 5th/Simha. The 5th from the 4th is

Vrischikha (in male progeny) where Bala asura's penances and

transformations took place and different parts of his body turned into

gem seeds which were "taken" by different entities - good and bad.

According to Garuda Purana, only some of these gems have intrinsic

virtues and it goes on to list 10 major ones - Navagraha + Lagna. The

transformation of Bala asura's body parts are different from the ones

given in Garuda Purana.

In another chapter, we also read about the instant death of

Bala asura. Never once do we see his revival. The fact that bala

asura's wife turned into a river (nadi) after merging with Bala asura

and gems "flowed" through her waters for the benefit of mankind.

 

 

SUMMARY

Since BOTH Padma Purana (Lagna/Mesha/Mangal/Narasimha)

and Garuda Purana (5th/Simha/Surya/Aditya) agree that the reason

people who can afford to adorn/own beautiful gems is due to their past

religious merit, we are to simply understand that this implies the

strength of the 9th house, its sign and the strength in Navamsa. We can

hence say that the idiot proof method is that the deities lording the

6th, 8th and 12th is "angry" with us. The duplication of the story

being that when Sukra eulogised (5th lord/ 5th house/Indra) Lord Siva,

Lord Siva recalled Sukra's installation of the Ruby linga in Sukra's

previous life, to Lord Siva.

 

 

 

That the ignoble becomes a

nobility due to past religious merit is indicated according to Sanjay

Guru's analysis on PVN Rao's chart. - Sanjay ji, this requires your

confirmation.

 

 

That the 5th and 9th lords

will shower their blessings naturally if in strength and attention is

to be paid to those ignoble entities where gemstones are concerned.

 

ie., Provided that the dusthana lords are well placed and

have digbala, we can recommend the gemstone that pertains to them as

this indicates the non displeasure of the the

deity/entity lording that gem.

That a natural and "functional" benefic if badly placed,

can be helped with the wearing of a gemstone.

 

 

 

 

Dear Visti,

Namaste

 

 

Natural Yellow Topaz is non existent and should be Yellow

Sapphire. Even the Papadradscha is described in the same chapter of the

Garuda Purana besides others. Hessonite is not the gemstone for Rahu.

It might be the last of the gemstone I shall endeavour as I continue to

write my articles regarding gemstones.

 

 

 

 

PVN Rao's chart:

We seem to have ignored the fact that Sun also has digbala

that is, directional strength in the South/10th house. That retrograde

Mercury is in vargottama, well placed in 11th and that Mars is in

MARANA sthana in navamsa, the A12 with Jupiter in marana and afflicted

by Rahu and Candra is unhappily displaced in Tula. May my mind be

finally rest in peace and resolve to the fact that gems can be used for

ALL Lords of the Zodiac.

 

 

 

 

Vara cakra: We are taught to use the deities weapons. Can

you please elaborate more on its use wrt gems, since we were taught to

use gems in kalacakra??

 

 

Have a good weekend. It's parties galore but instead I am

sifting through the Vedas and their healing arts.

 

 

love,

 

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

On 20 Dec 2008, at 08:41, chandan486 wrote:

 

 

||aum namah shivaya||

 

 

Dear Visti,

Namaste.

 

 

Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As

far as im 

aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be

advised , as 

VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the

native to 

gain.. 

 

 

So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to

like 

killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non-

sattwic is 

that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all

these 

gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in

the next 

life !

 

 

So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY

is a good 

idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage

caused to some 

body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our 

responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!

 

 

I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao

became PM ,but 

if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY

could 

flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !

 

 

Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made

his 

negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!

 

 

 

 

humble regards,

Chandan s sabarwal.

 

 

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wrote:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

 

Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives

problem to 

Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so

there is no 

yuti-exchange?

 

 

If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it

and where 

 

its 

 

only parivartana as that is not clear?

 

 

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri

classes and 

previous lessons. For those who have access to the

Varahamihira 

 

 

list 

 

 

there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is

lesson 5, 

 

 

where 

 

 

this example is also cited yet from a different

perspective.

 

 

Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age

when 

 

 

Narasimha 

 

 

was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very

sexually 

active, hence of what concern is the second house in

S3? Hence I 

 

 

wrote 

 

 

in the end of my write up that these principles for

the S3 need 

 

 

to be 

 

 

intelligently applied.

 

 

Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join

in a 

 

 

Kendra 

 

 

they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the

chart was that 

 

 

Mars 

 

 

is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree.

Hence 

 

 

another 

 

 

reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen

Mars.

 

 

Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic

aspecting/joining 

ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do

not wear its 

gemstone by any chance.

Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.

 

 

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

Dear Guruji  , Namaskar

 

 

1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini

Rasi is 

 

 

 

similar 

 

 

 

to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.

 

 

2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives

rajayoga, 

strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case

as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous

case), not the 

 

 

 

8L - 

 

 

 

enemy. You can say that there

are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the

case with 

 

 

 

gems 

 

 

 

as Sanjayji example is indicating.

 

 

3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna

lord is 

 

 

 

advised 

 

 

 

that is the rule of Sanjayji based

on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems

per your 

 

 

 

teachings.

 

 

 

 

 

4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem

should make it 

stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,

so we should not strength the affliction but the

native! No yuti 

 

 

 

rule 

 

 

 

for gems per your teachings.

 

 

Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!

 

 

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is

occuring in 

 

 

 

 

the 

 

 

 

 

tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord

showing that when 

 

 

 

 

the 

 

 

 

 

Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his

Bhadra yoga 

 

 

 

 

becomes 

 

 

 

 

useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as

it is 

 

 

 

 

conjoined 

 

 

 

 

two malefics by lordships and natural significance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the

malificence of 

 

 

 

 

the 

 

 

 

 

VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars

are the most 

benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and

will exchange 

 

 

 

 

results.

 

 

 

 

Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe

affliction and 

 

 

 

 

curse 

 

 

 

 

which would end up giving the results of the

Vipareet yoga on 

himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits

were launched 

 

 

 

 

on him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So finally its because they do exchange results,

point is that 

 

 

 

 

this 

 

 

 

 

exchange of results would not be good if in a

malefic house. 

 

 

 

 

I.e. 

 

 

 

 

imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the

principle is that the 

lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer,

so if Mercury, 

 

 

 

 

Mars 

 

 

 

 

and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he

personally 

 

 

 

 

would 

 

 

 

 

suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.

 

 

So finally the house placement must also be good.

Specifically 

 

 

 

 

first 

 

 

 

 

and tenth will also benefit longevity.

Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend

falls. 

 

 

 

 

Lagnesh 

 

 

 

 

there threatens ones own fall also (hence the

remedy). And so 

 

 

 

 

it 

 

 

 

 

happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through

which his 

 

 

 

 

colleague 

 

 

 

 

Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in

politics, and they 

 

 

 

 

all 

 

 

 

 

looked to Narasimha as a leader.

It happened after his retirement because of Mars

(also Varesha) 

 

 

 

 

in 

 

 

 

 

the tenth.

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

 

Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still

dusthana lord 

 

 

 

 

 

in 

 

 

 

 

 

kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.

 

 

Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good

for Narasimha 

 

 

 

 

 

Rao? 

 

 

 

 

 

As the more mails the things are more

complicated.

 

 

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Now your getting it. See that its not always

good to give the 

conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems,

and we cannot do 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so 

 

 

 

 

 

 

blindly.

Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun

joined for 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pisces 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun

in such a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

combination 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can increase enmity and such sixth house

problems depending 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on 

 

 

 

 

 

 

placement. Therefore in the example you gave

if the two were 

joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house

then wearing a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ruby 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is a big NONO. Especially if the person is

born on a Monday 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday it would horrible for the health.

Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house

it would prove 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to be 

 

 

 

 

 

 

excellent and also increase longevity.

 

 

If the two are in planetary war then there is

no doubt, i.e. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

don't 

 

 

 

 

 

 

cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a

trikona by 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wearing 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the other grahas gemstone.

 

 

So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by

itself as if such a 

combination is badly placed it would be

devastating to wear 

 

 

 

 

 

 

such a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gemstone.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

Dear Rajarishi   ,

Namaskar

 

 

 

 

 

 

Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the

battle Sanjyaji 

perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here

Shukra 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lagnadhipati is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

conjoined Budha, but still

the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha

is 6L). Based 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that we see that yuti is not the rule,

therefore we cant say 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coral was good for Narasimha Rao

as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is

opposite to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

previous 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

teachings and examples.

 

 

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rajarshi nandy pisze:

 

 

 

Dear Rafal

 

 

I have been trying to follow this excahnge

of mails and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

getting 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a little confused. You said:

// 

/So far I have seen Sanjayji never

recommend gem based on 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yuti 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when it comes to trikona lords/

 

 

Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between

trikona lord and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

any 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

other lord OR only trikona and dusthana

lord?

 

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz

/<starsuponme/* 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme

    Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

    divisonal charts ?

    To: 

    Thursday, 18

December, 2008, 6:25 PM

 

 

    *om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya*

    Dear Chandan, Namaskar

 

 

    So far I have seen

Sanjayji never recommend gem based on

    yuti when it comes to

trikona lords. Its also hard to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

seen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    if person is spiritual or

not, after all dharma

    is not only connected to

spirituality but also to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

marriage,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    progeny, social values

etc - big parts of life for

    materialists.

 

 

    When we see examples in

Nakshatra book then we know how 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

much

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    attention Sanjayji places

towards so called temporal

    malefics - here Mangal is

definitely temporal malefic

    and it will give problems

to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

we

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    use only parivartana for

gems then based solely on this

    principle advising Coral

is quite unfortunate decision.

 

 

    Arudha will jump to tenth

and Mangal will hit it as its

    dominated by Budha and

Mangal is enemy in naisargika and

    tatkalika sambandha here.

So its badly placed by 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lordship,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    sambandha

    and placement from AL. So

Coral is worst.

 

 

    More to this Mangal is 8L

in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sits

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    in 2H in D3 (Sn).

 

 

    What special rule I have

omitted which conquers all the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    which Mangal gives here?

 

 

    OR

 

 

    we accept yuti principle

again..and then Ruby for 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun+Moon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    for Meena Lagna..but as I

never said Sanjayji did it.

 

 

 

 

    Regards,

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    chandan486 pisze:

 

    ||aum namah shivaya||

 

 

    Dear Rafal , Zoran and

Visti,

    Namaste.

 

 

    I have been reading the

constant discussions between 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rafal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    and you

    two and glad that rafal

did post PV Narasimha Rao's 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

details.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Based on the artcile

Visti wrote yesterday and my 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

personal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    chart

    analysis of PV Narasimha

Rao , im going to explain 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what i

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    seem to be

    correct about the advise

for a Red Coral.

 

 

    1.as Visti mentioned ,

Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

which

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    can be seen

    from Navamsa to determine

which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

    Now in this particular

case , as Mangal and Merc. have

    conjoined ,

    Mangal occupies an airy

namavsa , so based on the ones

    adjacent to

    it , those ayanas will

get exchanged.

    This gives us 3 ayanas

viz. Capricorn - Artha , 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aquarius -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Kama and

    Pisces - Moksha.

 

 

    Similarly for Merc. it

occupies Gemini , so the ones

    adjacent to it

    get exhanged , viz Tauras

- Artha , Gemini - Kaama and

    Cancer -

    Moksha ..

 

 

    The only Pada / ayana

that does not get exchanged due 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    yuti is

    Dharma and since we are

prescribing gemstone for a

    political leader

    and not a spiritualist ,

we can safely ingore this 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ayana .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    So , safely a Red Coral

can and should be advised.

    Moreover , in the Rasi

chart , Mars has Dig bala which

    Zoran already

    mentioned and it also has

7th house argala on GL , with

    nothing to

    obstruct.

 

 

    Also in Dasamsa, Mangal

again has Sukhagrala on 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

GL,which

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    anyways is

    more powerful than the

virodhargals , so mangal argala

    prevails.

 

 

    2. Also , maybe we missed

to notice , lagnesha Merc is

    Varki ..

    Recommending a gemstone

for a Vakri planet is not a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

good

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    idea , as it

    only increases the power

of retrogression , hence 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

coral is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    best

    choice ,both by Rasi and

Dasamsa.

 

 

    I think i made a pretty

neat assemement.

 

 

    Comments Please !!

 

 

    humble regards,

    Chandan S Sabarwal.

 

 

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    wrote:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

 

 

Please dont make me a fool. When I

have asked why 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coral

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    then the

    answer was:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Just as Dasas exchange effects of

conjoined Grahas 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemstones.

    Does

 

that clarify?

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Now you are stating again that it is

only for 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

parivartana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

June 28, 1921

Time: 12:49:00

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Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

 

 

In that chart I dont see any

parivartana and Mangal 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    third and

    eight

 

lord, so the question is the same :

 

 

a) either you say its yuti and then

for Meena Lagna 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    and Surya

    yuti

 

we perscribe Ruby

 

 

or

 

 

b) its only for parivartana and then

why Coral for

 

    Narasimha Rao?

 

 

 

If there is no answer to this simple

question then 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    admit it

    and

 

please dont make me a fool that I am

repeating 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ahimsavm pisze:

 

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti and myself are saying is

the same. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visti has

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    very

 

 

precisely explained, that with yuti

Three pada 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

effects are

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    reversed,

 

 

so one pada or leg is remained

uninfluenced. So, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if we

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    subsitute

    the

 

 

gem with planet conjoined, you are

not fully 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

reversing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    their

 

 

signification, since one pada of

dharma remains

 

 

    uninfluenced. So,

 

 

parivartana is stronger than yuti,

for ekapada. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Full

 

 

reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen

Sanjayji

 

 

    recommending the

    change

 

 

of a stone. A person was Makara

Lagna with Shani 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in 5th

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    house and

 

 

Shukra in 2nd house, so there was

parivartana of 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    and Shukra.

 

 

Since Shukra was badly hit in the

second house, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sanjayji

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    recommended

 

 

Neelam for Shani to give the effects

of Shukra

 

 

    specifically. This

    was

 

 

further very wise choice since Shani

rules lagna 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

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<srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gendarz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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wrote:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

 

 

The whole disussion is about if we

use the other 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gem

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    based on

    yuti

 

 

or

 

parivarta. First it was

parivartana then you say 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    also for

 

 

yuti, now

 

Zoran says its for parivartana

only again. If 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ninth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    lord is with

 

 

Shani

 

its durbhagya but in the period of

9L as then the

 

 

 

    yuti graha

    Shani

 

 

will

 

work, based on that using Neelam

will strenghten 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    yuti graha

 

 

which is

 

9L so getting out of durbhagya.

 

 

 

 

 

 

How Pearl can be good for Mangal

if its lord 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

neecha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    sign ? How

    can

 

 

you

 

perscribe 6L gem?

 

 

Zoran said: " However, this

substitution of gems 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    be done

    ONLY

 

 

in

 

PARIVARTANA. "

 

 

How then Coral could be good for

Narasimha Rao?

 

 

Or I have missed something?

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani

is yuti ninth 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lord?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    That would

 

 

give

 

 

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one

of the main 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

points

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    that Zoki

    is

 

 

 

 

rising here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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ahimsavm skrev:

 

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about

Sambhanda is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

correct.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    However,

    this

 

 

 

 

 

substitution of gems can be

done ONLY in

 

 

 

 

 

    PARIVARTANA. If you

 

 

have

 

 

 

let us say Mangal and Shani

yuti for Meena, I

 

 

 

 

 

    would never

 

 

prescribe

 

 

 

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless

Moon is placed 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    8th house.

    In

 

 

that

 

 

 

case I would prefer Light Blue

Sapphire for 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

health.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The better way out is to take

Ruby because it

 

 

 

 

 

    would block the

 

 

Shani

 

 

 

and improve Mangal. However,

in such a case 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Surja

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    should be

    in

 

 

good

 

 

 

realtionship with Lagnesha

Guru. Another

 

 

 

 

 

    possibility is MOti

 

 

 

 

 

(Pearl), which according to

Veepreta is very 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

good

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    for Mangal

    and

 

 

 

 

 

also Good for Shani. Otherwise

you may risk 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    rise of bad

 

 

luck.

 

 

 

Actually, it will depend on

Shani Mangal 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

placement

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    in the

    chart.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

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Rafal

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Gendarz

 

 

<starsuponme@ >

 

 

 

wrote:

 

 

 

*om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya*

Dear Guruji , Namaskar

 

 

Yes.

 

 

Lets say Meena Lagna Shani

yuti Mangal - I

 

 

 

 

 

 

    should perscribe

 

 

Neelam

 

 

 

to

 

give effect of bhagyesh

Mangal?

 

 

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Visti Larsen pisze:

 

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

The final effect is the

same, as had the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    parivartana done

 

 

 

 

 

otherwise

 

 

then he would not have

cancer.

Yet, i don't believe the

Cancer was solely

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    caused by

 

 

Jupiter in

 

 

 

this

 

 

case as we see Rahu

involved in a curse of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    mother from

    past

 

 

life

 

 

 

and

 

 

involving the sixth lord

(roga) Ketu.

Still the advise is the

same.

Yours sincerely, Visti

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rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

 

Dear Visti

 

 

Thank you for sharing

that information.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Really wonderful

 

 

mail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was seeing a chart of

a person who has 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

been

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    detected

    with

 

 

 

 

 

liver

 

 

 

cancer and doctors have

given him six 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

months

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    time to

    live.

 

 

In

 

 

 

his

 

 

 

chart jup is in exchance

with venus. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    he wear a

 

 

pokhraj

 

 

 

instead

 

 

 

of diamond?

 

 

If you could kindly take

a look and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advice it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    woiuld be

 

 

great..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

23rd march 1977

12:20 pm

calcutta

mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

 

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

/*

*The upsurge (of

consciousness) is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhairava -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Shiva

    Sutra*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*/

 

 

 

 

--- On *Tue, 16/12/08,

Maja S

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    (trbac

/<majastrbacastro@ >/*

 

 

 

 

 

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Maja S(trbac

<majastrbacastro@ >

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Choosing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemstone on

 

 

 

 

 

divisonal

 

 

 

charts ?

@

. com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    <%40>

 

 

<srijagannat h%40. com>

 

 

 

<srijagannat h%40. com>

 

 

 

Tuesday, 16

December, 2008, 8:47 PM

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

 

 

Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

 

 

WOW!

 

 

As far as I am

concerned, your email 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bellow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    is a "Marry

 

 

 

 

 

Christmas

 

 

 

and a Happy New Year in

advance".

 

 

Thank you so much for

shearing it with 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

us!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warm Regards,

Maja Strbac

 

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

--- On *Tue, 12/16/08,

Visti Larsen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

 

 

 

 

 

com>/* wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Choosing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemstone on

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

divisonal charts ?

@

. com

Tuesday, December

16, 2008, 7:09 AM

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

Excuse me for not

answering in full in my

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    last mail, I

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

realise no one learns if

no one shares, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    here is what

 

 

 

 

 

I

 

 

 

have learned and have to

share.

I have gathered the

following rules reg.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemstones with

 

 

 

 

 

time

 

 

 

(this will be

republished on my website 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    reference):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The prescription of

metals or gemstones

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    belongs to the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

concept of Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

meaning to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    protect

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

body. This is best to

advise when a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

person may be

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

making a

 

 

 

wrong decision and you

want them to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

stick to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the right

 

 

 

 

 

one.

 

 

 

Just as one can advise

gemstones to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

protect

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the body,

 

 

 

 

 

there

 

 

 

are gemstones which can

remove the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

protection

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    of the

 

 

 

 

 

body,

 

 

 

hence one should advise

these wisely.

Sanskrit word for

gemstone is r/atna/ but

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    does not

 

 

 

 

 

literally

 

 

 

mean gemstone, but can

also refer to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    treasure, jewel,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

precious stone, and is

derived from the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

word

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    /ra-/

 

 

 

 

 

meaning a

 

 

 

gift, goods, wealth or

riches. (Monier-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Williams)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The word /ratna/

specifically refers to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    types of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

treasure or jewels

namely mukta (pearl), 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vajra

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(diamond),

 

 

 

/padmara-ga/ (ruby),

/pushpara-ga 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(topaz),

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    indrani-la

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(clear/stainless

sapphire), marakata

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    (emerald), vaidu-

 

 

 

 

 

rya

 

 

 

(cats eye), vidruma

(coral) and gomeda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    (hessonite). /

 

 

 

 

 

For the

 

 

 

same reason the word

/ratna/ also means 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    in vedic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

numerology. Pushpara-ga

has been 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

translated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    as Topaz by

 

 

 

 

 

most,

 

 

 

however the Garuda

Purana (Suta, 2007, p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    174) does

 

 

 

 

 

state

 

 

 

that different colours

of the /pushpara-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    /can be

 

 

 

 

 

regarded

 

 

 

as equal to the

/indrani-la 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(sapphire) /or

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    /padmara-ga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(ruby)/. Therefore,

among the /indrani-la

 

 

 

(Sapphire) /we must

 

 

 

infer that certain

shades (i.e. yellow) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    be regarded

 

 

 

 

 

as

 

 

 

giving the effects of

/pushpara-ga /

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(topaz).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Hence,

 

 

 

 

 

whilst

 

 

 

all sapphires fall in

the same group of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    /indrani-la/ the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

colour of them being

different also

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    differentiates the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

effects of wearing them

greatly. Details

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    should be

 

 

 

 

 

learned

 

 

 

from the Garuda Purana

in this regard.

 

 

The Deva are supposed to

reside in the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    particle of a

    ratna

 

 

 

 

 

which

 

 

 

is clear, bright,

without cracks or 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lines in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    it and has

    no

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

unusual shades in it.

Hence, the wearing 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    ratna is

    for

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

sake of keeping a Deva

next to you and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    protecting you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ratnaka-raka

 

 

Ratna comes under the

various metals 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

known as

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Dhatu.

    Moon,

 

 

 

 

 

Mars,

 

 

 

Saturn and Ra-hu signify

the Dhatu and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

among

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    them Moon

 

 

 

 

 

rules over

 

 

 

Ratna, whilst Mars rules

over the earth,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Saturn over the

 

 

raw

 

 

 

 

 

 

minerals such as oil and

irons whilst Ra-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    rules over

    the

 

 

 

 

 

rare

 

 

 

metals such as Gold and

platinum. Hence, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    is Ratna

    ka-

 

 

 

 

 

raka

 

 

 

and divisional charts as

Somanatha 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drekkana and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Somanatha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Navamsha are the most

important to judge 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    effect of

 

 

 

 

 

gemstones.

 

 

 

As specifically the

Drekkana refers to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ones

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    karma and

    this

 

 

 

 

 

is

 

 

 

signified by ones hands,

the Somanatha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    drekkana is apt

    to

 

 

 

 

 

judge

 

 

 

the effects of

gemstones. Specifically 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    divisional

 

 

chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

shows ones ojas and how

one uses it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Strong

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    ojas can

    grant

 

 

 

 

 

fame,

 

 

 

and hence this

divisional chart can be 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

used

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    to see ones

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

popularity as well as

sexuality where 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ones

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    ojas is used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Moon signifying all

gemstones is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also known

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as /gunatmaka/,

 

 

 

i.e .the self in the

form of /guna/ or

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    attributes.

    Hence to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

understand the effects

of a gemstone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    vis-a-vis other

 

 

 

 

 

gemstones we

 

 

 

use the gunachakra. This

is also used for

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    other purposes

 

 

 

 

 

and is

 

 

 

an integral part of

Vedic numerology. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    will be

 

 

explained

 

 

 

 

 

 

further below.

 

 

Which finger to wear the

gemstone on can 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

be

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    understood

    from

 

 

 

 

 

Vedic

 

 

 

Remedies in Astrology,

by Sanjay Rath. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    four fingers

 

 

 

 

 

represent

 

 

 

moksha, artha, dharma

and ka-ma 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

respectively

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    for the

    index,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

middle, ring and little

fingers. No gem 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    advised on

    the

 

 

 

 

 

index

 

 

 

finger as it risks

blocking moksha and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    increasing

    ahamkara.

 

 

 

 

 

The

 

 

 

following table has been

culled out of 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    same work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Table 2: Finger and

Ratna (Rath)

 

 

Ratna

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finger

 

 

Ruby

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ring (3^rd from index)

 

 

Pearl

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ring or Little finger

(3^rd or 4^th from 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

index)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coral

 

 

 

 

 

 

Middle or ring finger

(2^nd or 3^rd from 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

index)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Emerald

 

 

 

 

 

 

Middle or little fingers

(2^nd or 4^th 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

from

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    index)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yellow Topaz/Yellow

Sapphire

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ring (3^rd from index)

 

 

Diamond

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ring (3^rd from index)

 

 

Blue Sapphire

 

 

 

 

 

 

Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

from index)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hessonite

 

 

 

 

 

 

Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

from index)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cats eye

 

 

 

 

 

 

Middle or ring finger

(2^nd or 3^rd from 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

index)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Garuda Purana states

that gemstones can 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    great good

    for

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

human race and they have

natural 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Naisargika)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

characteristics

 

 

 

which will benefit

everyone. Example: a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lady

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    wishing to

    be

 

 

a

 

 

 

 

 

 

mother would benefit

greatly from 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wearing a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    pushpara-ga

 

 

 

 

 

(topaz)

 

 

 

or pokhraj (yellow

sapphire). Similarly a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    person having

 

 

 

 

 

cancer

 

 

 

should wear a diamond

and recite 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mrtyunjaya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    mantra.

    These

 

 

 

 

 

natural

 

 

 

indications of gemstones

can be applied 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    all the

 

 

 

 

 

gemstones and

 

 

 

the effects are given in

Garuda Purana.

 

 

Table 3: Ratna and Graha

(Dikshita, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1992, p.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    1.55)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ratna

 

 

 

 

 

 

Translation

 

 

Sun

 

 

 

 

 

 

Padmara-ga

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ruby

 

 

Moon

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mukta

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pearl

 

 

Mars

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vidruma

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coral

 

 

Mercury

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marakata

 

 

 

 

 

 

Emerald

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pushpara-ga

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yellow Topaz

 

 

Venus

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vajra

 

 

 

 

 

 

Diamond

 

 

Saturn

 

 

 

 

 

 

Indrani-la

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blue Sapphire

 

 

Rahu

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gomeda

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hessonite

 

 

Ketu

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vaidu-rya

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cats eye

 

 

Tradition is everything

when it comes to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    applying any

 

 

 

 

 

advice and

 

 

 

hereunder is some of the

advice that I 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

have

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gathered

    from

 

 

my

 

 

 

 

 

 

teacher.

 

 

Ratna should be advised

based on the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

first,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    fifth and

    ninth

 

 

 

 

 

house

 

 

 

lords in the Rashi (D1)

chart. These are 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    best

    gemstones

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

will support the native

in their purpose 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    life. The

    first

 

 

 

 

 

lord

 

 

 

protects the head and

intelligence, the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fifth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    protects

    the

 

 

 

 

 

hands

 

 

 

and torso, whilst the

ninth protects the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    legs, and hence

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

native will always

select the best path 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    life if the

 

 

 

 

 

gemstone

 

 

 

of the ninth lord is

worn. Thus the ninth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    lord is the

    most

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

auspicious gemstone.

This can also be 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

used to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    advise the

 

 

 

 

 

best

 

 

 

gemstone for disease in

particular parts 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Malefics placed in the

ninth house cause

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    misfortune,

    and in

 

 

 

 

 

such

 

 

 

cases reversal gems are

advised.

 

 

Graha in 9^th

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gemstone advised

 

 

Saturn

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ruby (pink ruby for

ladies)

 

 

Rähu

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yellow Sapphire or

Yellow Topaz

 

 

Ketu

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gold ring

 

 

Mars

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pearl

 

 

Gemstones of the sixth,

eighth or twelfth

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    house lords

    are

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

inauspicious and cause

strife, disease 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and loss

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

respectively and

 

 

 

should not be worn.

 

 

To both the above there

are exceptions 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

which

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    occur on

 

 

 

 

 

account of

 

 

 

Yoga.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yoga and Sambandha

(reference: Atri 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Classes)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The graha give their

effects by 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

affecting the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    four

    ayana or

 

 

 

 

 

goals

 

 

 

of the person's life

namely dharma, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

artha,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    ka-ma and

    moksha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

symbolised by the first,

second, third or

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    fourth pada

    of a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nakshatra, or fiery,

earthy, airy and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

watery

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    signs

 

 

 

 

 

respectively.

 

 

 

When a graha is in

parivartana yoga with

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    another, then

    the

 

 

 

 

 

other

 

 

 

graha will affect all

four ayana of the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    former graha.

 

 

 

 

 

Therefore,

 

 

 

if the ninth lord is in

parivartana with 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    sixth lord

    the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gemstone of the sixth

lord should be 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advised.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Similarly when a graha

is yuti another 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

graha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    it takes on

 

 

 

 

 

three of

 

 

 

the four ayanas of the

other graha. Which

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    three ayana

 

 

 

 

 

depends on

 

 

 

i) the particular grahas

Navamsha sign 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ii)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the two signs

 

 

 

 

 

adjacent

 

 

 

that particular sign.

Example: If Sun is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    joined Venus

    then

 

 

 

 

 

Sun

 

 

 

will give the effects of

Venus. In such a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    case should

    Sun

 

 

be

 

 

 

 

 

 

placed in the Navamsha

of Capricorn then 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    would give

    the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

effects of Venus'

Artha-ayana due to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

being in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    an earthy

 

 

 

 

 

Navamsha,

 

 

 

and further as the

Navamsha before is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    a fiery

    sign

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

that after being an airy

sign, the Sun 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

would

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    give the

 

 

 

 

 

effects of

 

 

 

Venus' dharma-ayana

(fiery) and ka-ma-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ayana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    (airy) as

    well,

 

 

 

 

 

but

 

 

 

not the moksha-ayana

(watery).

 

 

If three or more graha

join then the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    interchange of

    effects

 

 

 

 

 

will

 

 

 

be decided based on the

natural 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

benefic/malefic

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    indications

 

 

 

 

 

of

 

 

 

the graha, viz. if

Jupiter, Saturn and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Mercury join then

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

highest malefic and

highest benefic will

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    interchange

 

 

 

 

 

results,

 

 

 

thus causing Saturn and

Jupiter to

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    interchange results

 

 

 

 

 

whilst

 

 

 

Mercury will give not

give the results of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    anyone.

    Similarly

 

 

 

 

 

apply

 

 

 

this to conjunction of

more grahas.

 

 

The two remaining

Sambandha, viz. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Samdristi and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Parivartana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dristi are not taken

into account for 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    purpose as

    they

 

 

 

 

 

only

 

 

 

affect two or one ayana

among the full 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

four

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    ayana of a

 

 

 

 

 

graha, yet

 

 

 

are still applied when

timing events.

 

 

 

 

Va-rachakra

 

 

Table 4: Varachakra

 

 

#

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun

 

 

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

 

 

3

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mars

 

 

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mercury

 

 

5

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

6

 

 

 

 

 

 

Venus

 

 

7

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saturn

 

 

8

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rähu

 

 

9

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ketu

 

 

In some cases the

gemstones of the sixth,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    eighth or

    twelfth

 

 

 

 

 

lords

 

 

 

needs to be given to as

those graha are 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

causing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    excessive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

problems to the native.

This occurs when

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    another graha

    is

 

 

 

 

 

causing

 

 

 

an eclipse on that graha

and thus 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

denying it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    of its

 

 

positive

 

 

 

 

 

 

effects. I.e. Sri

Kashinatha Rath was

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    recalled to have

 

 

 

 

 

given the

 

 

 

advice of wearing Ruby

to a Pisces 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lagna, as

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Sun was in

    the

 

 

 

 

 

sixth

 

 

 

and Rähu was placed in

the tenth. In that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    specific

    scenario

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

native was suffering on

account of 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

repeated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    legal

    battles.

 

 

 

 

 

The

 

 

 

reason being on account

of Rähu. This is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

further

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    explained

 

 

 

 

 

as:

 

 

 

when a graha occupies

the Simhasana 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bhavas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    (10^th ,

    1^st or

 

 

 

 

 

5^th

 

 

 

in that order) that

graha causes an 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

eclipse

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    on the third

 

 

 

 

 

graha in

 

 

 

the order of the

Varachakra. Viz. in the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    order of

    weekdays

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

third graha from Rähu is

the Sun, hence 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

when

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Rähu is in

    the

 

 

 

 

 

tenth

 

 

 

house the native will

have problems on

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    account of the

    house

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

placement and lordship

of the Sun in 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

their life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Similarly

 

 

 

 

 

if

 

 

 

among the Simhasana

Bhava only Mars is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

placed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    in the

    fifth

 

 

 

 

 

house

 

 

 

then the placement and

lordship of 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    will be

 

 

hampered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Varachakra has many

uses in matters 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Jyotish, and

 

 

 

 

 

this is

 

 

 

the logic behind many

principles in the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Brighu Sutras.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gunachakra

 

 

Table 1: Gunachakra

 

 

#

 

 

 

 

 

 

Graha

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guna

 

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun

 

 

 

 

 

 

Satva

 

 

2

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

 

 

3

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

4

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rähu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mercury

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rajas

 

 

6

 

 

 

 

 

 

Venus

 

 

7

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ketu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saturn

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tamas

 

 

9

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mars

 

 

Gunachakra is applied

somewhat 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

differently

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    than the

 

 

 

 

 

Varachakra.

 

 

 

If a Graha is

inauspicious then we can 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

choose

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    to lock or

 

 

 

 

 

unlock

 

 

 

its indications using

the fourth or 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

seventh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    graha in the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gunachakra respectively.

Example: cancer 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    tumours are

 

 

 

 

 

caused

 

 

 

by a malignant growth of

cancer-cells in 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    body and is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

signified by an

afflicted Jupiter. In the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Gunachakra the

 

 

 

 

 

fourth

 

 

 

graha from Jupiter is

Venus who can 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

block the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    spread of

 

 

 

 

 

cancer.

 

 

 

Thus to remedy such a

disease wearing 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

diamond

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    is advised

 

 

 

 

 

along

 

 

 

with Mrtyunjaya mantra.

Similarly Mars 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    cause nervous

 

 

 

 

 

system

 

 

 

issues such as

Parkinsons and the likes, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    to block

    this

 

 

 

 

 

issue

 

 

 

a gemstone of Jupiter is

advised along 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

with the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Mrtyunjaya

 

 

 

 

 

bijas.

 

 

 

 

 

Should a graha already

be blocking the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

native

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    in one

    aspect

 

 

 

 

 

of

 

 

 

life, then the unlocker

(7^th graha) is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    required. I.e.

    if

 

 

 

 

 

for

 

 

 

Taurus lagna the lord

Venus is placed in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Libra, the

    native

 

 

 

 

 

will

 

 

 

be bothered by constant

disease on 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

account of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    wrong

 

 

 

 

 

application

 

 

 

of intelligence.

Therefore the intellect 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    be deemed

    as

 

 

 

 

 

locked

 

 

 

and wearing a Yellow

Topaz/Sapphire is 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advised.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Similarly

 

 

 

 

 

if Moon

 

 

 

is very badly placed and

has no ni-cha 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

bhanga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    then a

    Blue

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sapphire is advised as

Saturn is the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

seventh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    graha from

    the

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

 

 

 

in weekday order and can

unlock these 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

negatives.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are undoubtedly

more applications 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Gunachakra

 

 

 

 

 

in this

 

 

 

regard, reg. gemstones,

yet until I have 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

been

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    presented

 

 

with

 

 

 

 

 

 

them, this is what I

have to share.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Somanatha Drekkana

 

 

Having ascertained the

gemstone as per 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Rashi chart

    it

 

 

is

 

 

 

 

 

 

worthwhile to check the

Somana-tha 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drekkana.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Herein

    graha

 

 

 

 

 

lording

 

 

 

the second house is a

ma-raka to the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ojas in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the body

    and

 

 

 

 

 

will

 

 

 

curtail health and

sexuality. This 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gemstone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    is therefore

 

 

not

 

 

 

 

 

 

advised, and neither is

the lord of the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    twelfth as this

    is

 

 

 

 

 

the

 

 

 

sixth lord from the

seventh house causing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    celibacy to

    the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

partner. Similarly the

sixth and eighth 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lords

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    affect the

 

 

 

 

 

partner

 

 

 

in a similar fashion and

those gemstones 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

should

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    preferably

 

 

 

 

 

also

 

 

 

be avoided. Advising the

third lord's 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gem can

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    increase

    the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

person's libido

significantly and 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advising

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    this gemstone

 

 

 

 

 

should

 

 

 

be done thoughtfully.

The gem of the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lagna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    lord is the

    best

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

ensures good health and

fame. Apply this 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advice

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

intelligently.

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps to share

insight.

Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

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chandan486 skrev:

 

 

 

||aum namah shivaya||

 

 

dear visti,

namaste.

 

 

Well , the point that

he landed into

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    troubles with the

 

 

 

 

 

advent of

 

 

 

 

Rahu

Dasa , makes more

sense now , but still 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    havent

 

 

 

 

 

answered .. is

 

 

 

 

mere conj enough to

wear each other's

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemstones ? or

    is it

 

 

 

 

 

real

 

 

 

 

parivartana that

fulfils the condition 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemtsone

 

 

 

 

 

exchange !!

 

 

 

 

 

 

however , first we

need to really 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

understand

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    , that

 

 

 

 

 

conjunction

 

 

 

 

actually makes planets

behave like each 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

other

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    completely ?

 

 

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

 

only do

they give each others

effects in the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dasha ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and if conj makes

planets behave like 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

each

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    other ? then

 

 

 

 

 

what does

 

 

 

 

parivartana do ? does

it also do the 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

same ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    if not the

 

 

 

 

 

same , then

 

 

 

 

whats different abt a

parivartana then 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a conj ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

humble regards,

Chandan S sabarwal.

 

 

@

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<srijagannat h%40. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

com>,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Visti Larsen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<visti@> wrote:

 

 

 

??? ??? ?????

Dear Chandan and

Swee, Namaskar.

PV Narasimha Rao did

see the legal 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

issues

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    and jail

    time,

 

 

 

 

 

but

 

 

 

 

through his

 

third and eighth

lord Maha Dasa of 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mars he was

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

untouched. It was

 

 

 

 

not

 

until Rahu Mahadasa

that he saw 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

problems,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    hence

    pointing

 

 

 

 

 

out

 

 

 

 

clearly

 

that the wearing of

the Coral during 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    mahadasa

    was

 

 

 

 

 

perfect

 

 

 

 

advise...

 

Afterall he became

Prime Minister 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

after

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    wearing it!

    How

 

 

 

 

 

many can

 

 

 

 

 

astrologers can

boast of a client

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    attaining that once

 

 

 

 

 

following a

 

 

 

 

 

remedial measure?

Yours sincerely,

Visti Larsen

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@: visti@

 

 

Chandan Ssabarwal

skrev:

 

||aum namah

shivaya||

 

 

dear swee and

visti,

namaste !

 

 

swee - you are

right abt PV 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Narasimha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    going to jail

 

 

 

 

 

and also

 

 

 

 

being

 

 

held up in

litigation (6th house

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    effects) , that

 

 

 

 

 

eventually

 

 

 

 

came

came

 

 

upon unto him ,

after some of his 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

own

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    party members

 

 

and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

associates

 

 

(mercury), accused

him of bribery 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    even showed

    the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

briefcase ,

in

 

 

which he was

actually deliveered 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

INR 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    million .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visti - when you

mentioned , that a 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

red

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    coral is

    being

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advised to

worn

 

 

simply based upon

the conj of Mars 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Mercury in

    10th

 

 

 

 

 

House ,

 

 

 

 

merc

 

 

being lagnesha , i

cannt somehow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    comprehend the

    basic

 

 

 

 

 

theory

 

 

 

 

behind

 

 

this ... and i

still remember 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

reading

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    somehwere on

 

 

 

 

 

your website

 

 

 

 

where

 

 

you mentioned ,

only complete

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    parivartana is actual

 

 

 

 

 

exhange of

 

 

 

 

houses

 

 

and not simply

conj....

 

 

conj simply gives

results of each 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

others in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dasas's ... but

 

 

 

 

actual

 

 

potency and

maleficience / 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

benificience

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    is based

    upon

 

 

 

 

 

Rasi /

 

 

 

 

Dasamasa !

 

 

 

 

how could some one

possibly advise a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    gemstone just

 

 

 

 

 

based upon

 

 

 

 

rasi and

 

 

not even consider

damasa , 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

especially

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    when career

    is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

concerend ?

 

 

moreover , that

Simhasana Yoga in 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lagna in

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    Narasimha's

 

 

 

 

 

case ,

 

 

 

 

somehow

 

 

makes me believe ,

it should have 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

been

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the Emerald

 

 

 

 

 

that he

 

 

 

 

should

have

 

 

worn and not the

red coral ...

 

 

also , mercury

forms a Nipuna Yoga 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

with

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    the Sun ,

    so

 

 

 

 

 

once again

 

 

 

 

emerald.

 

 

i had always

wanted to pick up this

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

    thing with

    out ,

 

 

 

 

 

glad swee

 

 

 

 

bought

 

 

it up !!

 

 

humbly yours,

chandan s sabarwal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram. 

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free

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