Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Pram, Namaskar Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Prem Chopra pisze: ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ Dear Rafal Ji Namaskaram Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the where the querier is ? This question help others too for clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to check presently position too which is different as well as if it changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Paul, Namaskar The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna for ourselves. I have drawn the prasna for you: November 22, 2008 Time: 10:03:33 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected to career 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ Dear Rafal Ji I really like your way of explainations always because it gives me Boost towards destiny of my ultimate goal to be foresight visioner so that nothing should be hidden from me and with the blessings of God and my hard work. Some time I able to see crystal clear but some time it get slipped may be I dont know to keep myself silent at the time of helping others. I have to win my emotional feelings but as you know sometime howmuch harder it is to get rid of that. Isn't it " AgniPariksha " that I have to depend on others will and wait for the their prayers of needy to catch the God's Grace to fulfill my Ultimate Goal. What I have to do is think positively and wait for the person who able to make things happen. What I can give is pure astro analysis from the Soul of my heart and skills learned from My Teacher. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Pram, Namaskar Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Prem Chopra pisze: ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ Dear Rafal Ji Namaskaram Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the where the querier is ? This question help others too for clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to check presently position too which is different as well as if it changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Paul, NamaskarThe advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna for ourselves. I have drawn the prasna for you: November 22, 2008 Time: 10:03:33Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected to career2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querryChattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release Date: 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal > > > > > > > > ------------------------- ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces); 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/Moon. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Dear Rafal In a prasna chart what will be the karaka for long travel within the country and travel outside the country? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Date: Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 6:20 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon.. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed.This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Crossing boundaries is for nodes, Shani for staying abroad, Shukra for travel. To check within or outside judge third vs. ninth/twelfth. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal In a prasna chart what will be the karaka for long travel within the country and travel outside the country? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 6:20 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon.. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar 1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done. Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard: example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008 Time: 15:49:10 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008 Time: 12:12:36 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, Poland Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it. 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. Hope this helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Dear Rafal Thank you for this mail and thanks to Maja for initiating this discussion The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa >Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 11:27 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, Namaskar1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture.This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done.Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard:example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008Time: 15:49:10Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person.example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008Time: 12:12:36Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, PolandAgain Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it.2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry.3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicableto do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist.Hope this helps.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Dear Rafal Thank you for this mail and thanks to Maja for initiating this discussion on prasna. When you mentioned Chattra rasi indicates remedy, I wanted to ask, in the Prasna pdf in the SJC website, it says if a planet is in Digbal from lagna, praying to the dikpala can give a positive result. So in any chart irrespective of CR, if there is a digbali planet then doing the specific puja can help? Secondly, for aquarius laga if rahu and shani are in lagna, can we go ahead with the question? Both being lagna lord. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa >Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 11:27 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, Namaskar1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture.This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done.Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard:example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008Time: 15:49:10Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person.example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008Time: 12:12:36Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, PolandAgain Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it.2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry.3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicableto do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist.Hope this helps.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar 1. Yes, even in natal it shows blessing from that devata. Own sign shows blessings from Tattva deva, Exalted from Vishnu. 2. Then still there is one Lagnesh and the other 'bad' graha will indicate that native is not honest. I remember that the exception comes when Su/Gu are in trikona, i think also seventh counts as this can give argala, but Guruji told me to skip that prashna even then. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal Thank you for this mail and thanks to Maja for initiating this discussion on prasna. When you mentioned Chattra rasi indicates remedy, I wanted to ask, in the Prasna pdf in the SJC website, it says if a planet is in Digbal from lagna, praying to the dikpala can give a positive result. So in any chart irrespective of CR, if there is a digbali planet then doing the specific puja can help? Secondly, for aquarius laga if rahu and shani are in lagna, can we go ahead with the question? Both being lagna lord. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa > Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 11:27 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar 1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done. Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard: example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008 Time: 15:49:10 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008 Time: 12:12:36 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, Poland Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it. 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. Hope this helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. 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Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Dear Rafal Very interesting. Thanks for explaining. I normally divide by 12 to find the AL and the graha from the quotient adding one. And the CR from there on. When you gave the example with number 13, you took rahu as planet, for rasi do you divide by 12 and take reminder? Have you ever tried doing prasnas for yourself and did they come out accurate? Just curious, I get tempted to do prasnas for myself he he. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Date: Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:19 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Rajarishi, Namaskar1. Yes, even in natal it shows blessing from that devata. Own sign shows blessings from Tattva deva, Exalted from Vishnu.2. Then still there is one Lagnesh and the other 'bad' graha will indicate that native is not honest. I remember that the exception comes when Su/Gu are in trikona, i think also seventh counts as this can give argala, but Guruji told me to skip that prashna even then.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal Thank you for this mail and thanks to Maja for initiating this discussion on prasna. When you mentioned Chattra rasi indicates remedy, I wanted to ask, in the Prasna pdf in the SJC website, it says if a planet is in Digbal from lagna, praying to the dikpala can give a positive result. So in any chart irrespective of CR, if there is a digbali planet then doing the specific puja can help? Secondly, for aquarius laga if rahu and shani are in lagna, can we go ahead with the question? Both being lagna lord. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna, "sohamsa" <sohamsa@ .com>Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 11:27 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, Namaskar1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture.This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done.Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard:example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008Time: 15:49:10Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person.example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008Time: 12:12:36Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, PolandAgain Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it.2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry.3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicableto do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist.Hope this helps.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. 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Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar 1. 13 is Aries. Countr from AL to L and the same number from Veeta Rasi to find Chattira. 2. Yes, I use it little bit differently. Only at the moment of some direct event coming to me, then I map nimittas. I cant draw it anytime like we do for others. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal Very interesting. Thanks for explaining. I normally divide by 12 to find the AL and the graha from the quotient adding one. And the CR from there on. When you gave the example with number 13, you took rahu as planet, for rasi do you divide by 12 and take reminder? Have you ever tried doing prasnas for yourself and did they come out accurate? Just curious, I get tempted to do prasnas for myself he he. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:19 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar 1. Yes, even in natal it shows blessing from that devata. Own sign shows blessings from Tattva deva, Exalted from Vishnu. 2. Then still there is one Lagnesh and the other 'bad' graha will indicate that native is not honest. I remember that the exception comes when Su/Gu are in trikona, i think also seventh counts as this can give argala, but Guruji told me to skip that prashna even then. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal Thank you for this mail and thanks to Maja for initiating this discussion on prasna. When you mentioned Chattra rasi indicates remedy, I wanted to ask, in the Prasna pdf in the SJC website, it says if a planet is in Digbal from lagna, praying to the dikpala can give a positive result. So in any chart irrespective of CR, if there is a digbali planet then doing the specific puja can help? Secondly, for aquarius laga if rahu and shani are in lagna, can we go ahead with the question? Both being lagna lord. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Sun, 23/11/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa@ ..com> Sunday, 23 November, 2008, 11:27 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar 1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done. Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard: example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008 Time: 15:49:10 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008 Time: 12:12:36 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, Poland Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it. 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. Hope this helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. 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Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, except how to find "navamsa related to the person" if client has given number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. Article is in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, Prasna Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra there… :-/ Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to use numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this procedure which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading Visti's article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi which is solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha causing a problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. Trust me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am not familiar with this. 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article (it would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole job while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a comment on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also in Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer this question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad intention? Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this query is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava for Karya Bhava)? From question it self I can conclude that this native has some serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And I mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this conclusion on analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very curious about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... no relationship based on these "emotions" can last. If this native is not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will be back for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the real root problem (which = "fears & doubts") which is bringing wrong choices in his/her life. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa >Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, Namaskar1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture.This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done.Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard:example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008Time: 15:49:10Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person.example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008Time: 12:12:36Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, PolandAgain Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it.2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry.3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicableto do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist.Hope this helps.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Lagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, except how to find "navamsa related to the person" if client has given number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. Article is in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, Prasna Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra there… :-/ Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to use numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this procedure which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading Visti's article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi which is solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha causing a problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. Trust me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am not familiar with this. 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article (it would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole job while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a comment on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also in Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer this question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad intention? Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this query is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava for Karya Bhava)? From question it self I can conclude that this native has some serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And I mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this conclusion on analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very curious about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... no relationship based on these "emotions" can last. If this native is not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will be back for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the real root problem (which = "fears & doubts") which is bringing wrong choices in his/her life. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa > Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar 1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done. Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard: example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008 Time: 15:49:10 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008 Time: 12:12:36 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, Poland Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it. 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. Hope this helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Excuse me the confusion. Its part of 'secret arudha' which is seen from the Quotient-Graha (not always Moon) - page 3. I have mistaken this with Moon as Vistiji taught me this with the same example which gave the number 2 - Moon. You should use the graha based on quotient. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Rafal Gendarz pisze: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Lagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, except how to find "navamsa related to the person" if client has given number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. Article is in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, Prasna Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra there… :-/ Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to use numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this procedure which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading Visti's article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi which is solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha causing a problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. Trust me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am not familiar with this. 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article (it would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole job while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a comment on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also in Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer this question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad intention? Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this query is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava for Karya Bhava)? From question it self I can conclude that this native has some serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And I mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this conclusion on analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very curious about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... no relationship based on these "emotions" can last. If this native is not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will be back for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the real root problem (which = "fears & doubts") which is bringing wrong choices in his/her life. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna , "sohamsa" <sohamsa > Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar 1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done. Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard: example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008 Time: 15:49:10 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008 Time: 12:12:36 Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, Poland Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it. 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. Hope this helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Maja, Namaskar Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answer based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Maja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched” on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor” fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Subbu, Namaskar Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Subbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc. One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Prem Chopra pisze: > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > > Namaskaram > > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > > > > Thanks > > > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna > > for ourselves. > > > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > > > > November 22, 2008 > > Time: 10:03:33 > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > > > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected > > to career > > > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > > > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > > > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances, > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > > > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20 > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun; > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Friends, You started a beatiful subject. Long time back my Guruji Pt. Sanjay Rath once told me when teaching me prashna methods " There are so many books and manuscripts on Prasna that we should take 3 lifetimes just to read them all " . Then I aksed him how to learn it:)) He said the following: " That is the reason why we study it through Paramapara. Parampara methods give universal rules which can cut across all prashna methods and be applied universally... " Therefore, What Rafal said is correct. There are certain rules which are appliable to all prashnas. However, before going deeper into the methods itself, one should take the foolowing steps. I agree that London teachings of Prasna are excellent. There are even better, which Guruji taught for JIVA classes, however they are not available. Luckily I was present there and kept notes:)) There are also many methods which he used to employ during the hundreds of readings I used to sit with him, which later on he kindly elaborated and explained. I would like to draw attention to the following four steps which are the most important: 1. Lagna 2. Arudha Lagna 3. Chandra Lagna-Janma Rashi 4. Surya Lagna (which he often emphasized as unjustly forgotten and ignored by vedic astrologers) He used to tell the following> 1. When a person comes to consult you, you REPRESENT a Samvatsara or Sun God, so we should all be aware of that and keep the level of purity by Doing the mantras and keeping ourselves pure. 2. A person who comes is coming for the soul level interacion so we should never hurt them or insult them, but learn what GOd is trying to show us. There is a simple method for that. Draw the prasna chart and see the 12th house. This is the place where you sit, and planets placed inthere and its lord will tell you what message God has for you. 3.By coming to a reading, GOd will give us knowledge about the person. Parampara teaches rules which will tell you: 1. What is the Lagna of the person 2. What is the Arudha Lagna of the person, which planets influence Arudha or the 7th from it 3. Which planets infleunce guna of the Mind (Janma Rasi), and which guna dominates now and in the future, so what we should be able to deal with, as well as the position of Chandra in their natal charts. 4. Which planets influnce Surja Lagna. Just by mere observation of a person, we should be able to understand the position of These points. After carefully observing the nimmitas, and a person, including sparsha, dress, akshara, sthiti etc, Then we should cast a Natal chart along with Prashna Chart. Then other techniques such as Surya Veethi (movement of Vamana) and Chatra rashi (exact angle between Arudha and Lagna as well as the movement of God and our self)should be employed. So, before we continue, it would be nice to analyze step by step not only Prashna chart, but its preparation and nimmitas before the readings. FOr example, if Lagna of a client is not in trines to Prasna Navamsa Lagna, its 7th house or navamsa lagna lord sign, I was explicitelly told not once to ignore the prasna. So, I look forward to discussions on this beatiful topic.. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > Excuse me the confusion. > > Its part of 'secret arudha' which is seen from the Quotient-Graha (not > always Moon) - page 3. I have mistaken this with Moon as Vistiji taught > me this with the same example which gave the number 2 - Moon. You should > use the graha based on quotient. * > > * > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > Lagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ----------------------------- > > http://rohinaa.com > > rafal > > > > > > > > > > Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >> > >> More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: > >> > >> 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, except > >> how to find " navamsa related to the person " if client has given > >> number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my > >> initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. Article is > >> in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, Prasna > >> Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra there... :-/ > >> > >> Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to use > >> numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this procedure > >> which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading Visti's > >> article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi which is > >> solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha causing a > >> problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. Trust > >> me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am not > >> familiar with this. > >> > >> 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article (it > >> would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole job > >> while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a comment > >> on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also in > >> Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer this > >> question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad intention? > >> Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this query > >> is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava for > >> Karya Bhava)? > >> > >> From question it self I can conclude that this native has some > >> serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And I > >> mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this conclusion on > >> analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very curious > >> about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... no > >> relationship based on these " emotions " can last. If this native is > >> not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will be back > >> for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the real > >> root problem (which = " fears & doubts " ) which is bringing wrong > >> choices in his/her life. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On *Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >> > >> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >> , " sohamsa " <sohamsa > > >> Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM > >> > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Maja, Namaskar > >> * > >> *1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, > >> navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying > >> issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont > >> use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, > >> I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from > >> Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. > >> > >> This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example > >> for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. > >> Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what > >> has been done. > >> > >> Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the > >> interest. I have two examples in this regard: > >> > >> *example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship > >> prashna at the starting of dating.* > >> > >> November 16, 2008 > >> Time: 15:49:10 > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > >> > >> After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. > >> > >> *example 2: if I will get this job? * > >> > >> November 20, 2008 > >> Time: 12:12:36 > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > >> Warsaw, Poland > >> > >> Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that > >> job even if she could get it. > >> > >> 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question > >> asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. > >> > >> 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the > >> answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable > >> to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some > >> eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya > >> bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more > >> likely to happen. > >> > >> We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of > >> prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the > >> navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. > >> > >> Hope this helps.* > >> * > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ------------ --------- -------- > >> http://rohinaa. com > >> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >> > >> > >> Maja S(trbac pisze: > >>> Om Gurave Namah > >>> > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >>> Whoever first used " comments bellow " option on this list, God > >>> bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Maja Strbac > >>> > >>> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/* wrote: > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >>> > >>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM > >>> > >>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>> Dear Maja, Namaskar > >>> > >>> Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue > >>> (based on Moon transit). > >>> Don't really get this. Chandra is for " hidden issue " or just > >>> " issue " ? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for > >>> hidden Issues. > >>> > >>> I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme > >>> (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article > >>> " Principles of Prasna " . As far as I was > >>> reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on > >>> calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my > >>> previous email). > >>> > >>> 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned > >>> article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit > >>> confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, > >>> you can answer > >>> based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and > >>> Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based > >>> on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural > >>> period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. > >>> I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. > >>> But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: > >>> Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do > >>> the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client > >>> is asking second question, I should observe this from > >>> Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I > >>> want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in > >>> Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? > >>> > >>> > >>> This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna > >>> on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had > >>> no idea about location where it was lectured. * > >>> * > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Rafal Gendarz > >>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>> http://rohinaa. com > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>> > >>> > >>> Maja S(trbac pisze: > >>>> > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti > >>>> here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday > >>>> was yesterday, so... How convenient you guys are making > >>>> this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi > >>>> based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which > >>>> should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a > >>>> number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these > >>>> cases. Let's take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result > >>>> after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is > >>>> no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be...? > >>>> Tula ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I have a friend " huched " on asking me to draw Prasna for > >>>> her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did > >>>> not match with her natal lagna, and on that " poor " fifth > >>>> occasion she gave number 108... So now she hates me. > >>>> Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in > >>>> your email bellow. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Maja Strbac > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>> > >>>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > >>>> wp.pl>/* wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > >>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >>>> > >>>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM > >>>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Subbu, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with > >>>> rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly > >>>> related to the querry asked I go forward with the > >>>> analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth > >>>> and twelfth then I would skip it. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Subbu pisze: > >>>>> Hare Rama Krishna > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another > >>>>> interesting > >>>>> thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). > >>>>> > >>>>> I took the message # of Paul on and added > >>>>> the digits to a > >>>>> 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has > >>>>> drawn and > >>>>> understood query is regarding higher education, > >>>>> scholarship, travel > >>>>> etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> One question when you drew the current prasna without > >>>>> paul birth > >>>>> details , how you are sure that god allowed you to > >>>>> answer the same. > >>>>> Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . > >>>>> Please > >>>>> elaborate. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Subbu > >>>>> > >>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>> > Dear Pram, Namaskar > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the > >>>>> prashna inspired > >>>>> by the > >>>>> > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on > >>>>> one's sadhana as > >>>>> here > >>>>> > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. > >>>>> So I never > >>>>> analyze > >>>>> > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is > >>>>> not the answer > >>>>> for > >>>>> > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I > >>>>> prefer to recite > >>>>> Jyotir > >>>>> > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as > >>>>> then I can > >>>>> analyze > >>>>> > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it > >>>>> into the chakra. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Regards, > >>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Prem Chopra pisze: > >>>>> > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Dear Rafal Ji > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Namaskaram > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Little confused to get about query self or others, > >>>>> is it right to > >>>>> seek > >>>>> > > present moment and the place where astrologer is > >>>>> analyzing. or > >>>>> the > >>>>> > > where the querier is ? This question help others > >>>>> too for > >>>>> > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. > >>>>> This system is > >>>>> also > >>>>> > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any > >>>>> reason while > >>>>> > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart > >>>>> again the one have > >>>>> to > >>>>> > > check presently position too which is different as > >>>>> well as if it > >>>>> > > changes days then Day lord give different way of > >>>>> answering which > >>>>> may > >>>>> > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other > >>>>> astro analyzer > >>>>> which > >>>>> > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering > >>>>> factor and Rahu > >>>>> is > >>>>> > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying > >>>>> matters. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Thanks > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Tem Pram Chopra > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> <starsuponme@ > >>>>> wp.pl> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>> > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should > >>>>> not draw > >>>>> prasna > >>>>> > > for ourselves. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > November 22, 2008 > >>>>> > > Time: 10:03:33 > >>>>> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >>>>> > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by > >>>>> emotions > >>>>> connected > >>>>> > > to career > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - > >>>>> tenth bhava > >>>>> shows > >>>>> > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. > >>>>> Lagna has > >>>>> Lagnesh > >>>>> > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with > >>>>> sixth lord > >>>>> and > >>>>> > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives > >>>>> positive > >>>>> answer > >>>>> > > altough there can be problem with green card > >>>>> (ninth) finances, > >>>>> > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points > >>>>> in AV. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 > >>>>> Nov-20 > >>>>> Dec; 20 > >>>>> > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As > >>>>> Chandra sits in > >>>>> > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is > >>>>> strongest so from > >>>>> one > >>>>> > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based > >>>>> on that it > >>>>> can > >>>>> > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 > >>>>> May-20 Jun; > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Regards, > >>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>> > > http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa./> com > >>>>> <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>> ------ > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > >>>>> Release Date: > >>>>> 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> ---------------- ----------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------- ------------------ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------- ------------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- -------- > >> > >> > >> > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: 2008-11-22 18:59 > >> > >> > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Dear Maja, I'm no expert, but here's what I read regarding the remainder 0 (you might even have found it out by now): Remainder indicates the number of navamsas gained in the sign. If remainder is zero, take it as 9 (last navamsa). Crux: If remainder is zero, do not add 1 to the quotient. e.g. if number was 27, Quotient would be 3 and rem. zero, then take Rasi as Gemini and Navamsa as last navamsa of Gemini i.e. Gemini. You can use JHora too for the Prasna lagna stuff. Hope it helps. SS sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > > > > > Maja S(trbac pisze: > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >> > >> > >> > >> For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on > >> the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, > >> so... How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am > >> sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 > >> and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. > >> Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no > >> remainder in these cases. Let's take number 27 for example. We > >> get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. > >> Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would > >> be...? Tula ? > >> > >> > >> > >> I have a friend " huched " on asking me to draw Prasna for her. > >> Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match > >> with her natal lagna, and on that " poor " fifth occasion she gave > >> number 108... So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I > >> knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/* wrote: > >> > >> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >> > >> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM > >> > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Subbu, Namaskar > >> > >> Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, > >> therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to > >> the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha > >> was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would > >> skip it. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ------------ --------- -------- > >> http://rohinaa. com > >> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Subbu pisze: > >>> Hare Rama Krishna > >>> > >>> Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another > >>> interesting > >>> thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). > >>> > >>> I took the message # of Paul on and added the > >>> digits to a > >>> 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and > >>> understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, > >>> travel > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> One question when you drew the current prasna without paul > >>> birth > >>> details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer > >>> the same. > >>> Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please > >>> elaborate. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Subbu > >>> > >>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>> > Dear Pram, Namaskar > >>> > > >>> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna > >>> inspired > >>> by the > >>> > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's > >>> sadhana as > >>> here > >>> > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never > >>> analyze > >>> > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not > >>> the answer > >>> for > >>> > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to > >>> recite > >>> Jyotir > >>> > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I > >>> can > >>> analyze > >>> > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into > >>> the chakra. > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>> > rafal@ > >>> > > >>> > Prem Chopra pisze: > >>> > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Rafal Ji > >>> > > > >>> > > Namaskaram > >>> > > > >>> > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it > >>> right to > >>> seek > >>> > > present moment and the place where astrologer is > >>> analyzing. or > >>> the > >>> > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > >>> > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This > >>> system is > >>> also > >>> > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason > >>> while > >>> > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the > >>> one have > >>> to > >>> > > check presently position too which is different as well > >>> as if it > >>> > > changes days then Day lord give different way of > >>> answering which > >>> may > >>> > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro > >>> analyzer > >>> which > >>> > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor > >>> and Rahu > >>> is > >>> > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks > >>> > > > >>> > > Tem Pram Chopra > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz > >>> <starsuponme@ > >>> wp.pl> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>> > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > >>> > > > >>> > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw > >>> prasna > >>> > > for ourselves. > >>> > > > >>> > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > November 22, 2008 > >>> > > Time: 10:03:33 > >>> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >>> > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > >>> > > > >>> > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions > >>> connected > >>> > > to career > >>> > > > >>> > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > >>> > > > >>> > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > >>> > > > >>> > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava > >>> shows > >>> > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has > >>> Lagnesh > >>> > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord > >>> and > >>> > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive > >>> answer > >>> > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) > >>> finances, > >>> > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV. > >>> > > > >>> > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 > >>> Dec; 20 > >>> > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in > >>> > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so > >>> from > >>> one > >>> > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on > >>> that it > >>> can > >>> > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May- 20 Jun; > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Regards, > >>> > > Rafal Gendarz > >>> > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>> > > http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa./> com > >>> <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.com/>> > >>> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- > >>> --------- - > >>> ------ > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > >>> Release Date: > >>> 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> ----------------------- ---------------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------- ----------- > >> > >> > >> > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste .... will you believe me if I tell you that I had this very same confusion first time when I was reading this article? Very same :) But from your email you really made me think for a moment that this calculation actually exists. Thank you very much for your patience. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:11 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarExcuse me the confusion.Its part of 'secret arudha' which is seen from the Quotient-Graha (not always Moon) - page 3. I have mistaken this with Moon as Vistiji taught me this with the same example which gave the number 2 - Moon. You should use the graha based on quotient. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comRafal Gendarz pisze: om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarLagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, except how to find "navamsa related to the person" if client has given number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. Article is in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, Prasna Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra there… :-/ Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to use numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this procedure which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading Visti's article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi which is solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha causing a problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. Trust me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am not familiar with this. 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article (it would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole job while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a comment on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also in Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer this question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad intention? Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this query is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava for Karya Bhava)? From question it self I can conclude that this native has some serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And I mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this conclusion on analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very curious about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... no relationship based on these "emotions" can last. If this native is not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will be back for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the real root problem (which = "fears & doubts") which is bringing wrong choices in his/her life. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna, "sohamsa" <sohamsa@ .com>Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, Namaskar1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture.This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what has been done.Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the interest. I have two examples in this regard:example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship prashna at the starting of dating. November 16, 2008Time: 15:49:10Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person.example 2: if I will get this job? November 20, 2008Time: 12:12:36Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" Warsaw, PolandAgain Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that job even if she could get it.2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry.3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicableto do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more likely to happen. We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist.Hope this helps.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Maja, NamaskarYour counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue (based on Moon transit). Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for hidden Issues. I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my previous email). 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, you can answerbased on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also basedon the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client is asking second question, I should observe this from Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had no idea about location where it was lectured. Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comMaja Štrbac pisze: Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday, so… How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these cases. Let’s take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be…? Tula ? I have a friend “huched†on asking me to draw Prasna for her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match with her natal lagna, and on that “poor†fifth occasion she gave number 108… So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul PrasnaSaturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Subbu, NamaskarSometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would skip it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSubbu pisze: Hare Rama Krishna Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another interesting thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). I took the message # of Paul on and added the digits to a 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship, travel etc.One question when you drew the current prasna without paul birth details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer the same. Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please elaborate. Regards, Subbu , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Pram, Namaskar> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna inspired by the > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's sadhana as here > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never analyze > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not the answer for > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to recite Jyotir > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I can analyze > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into the chakra.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Prem Chopra pisze:> > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> > > > Dear Rafal Ji> > > > Namaskaram> > > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it right to seek > > present moment and the place where astrologer is analyzing. or the > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This system is also > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason while > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the one have to > > check presently position too which is different as well as if it > > changes days then Day lord give different way of answering which may > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro analyzer which > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor and Rahu is > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> > > > Thanks> > > > Tem Pram Chopra> > > >> >> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >> > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw prasna> > for ourselves.> >> > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >> >> > November 22, 2008> > Time: 10:03:33> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >> > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions connected> > to career> >> > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >> > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >> > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava shows> > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has Lagnesh> > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord and> > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive answer> > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth) finances,> > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >> > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20 Dec; 20> > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so from one> > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on that it can> > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz> > ------------ --------- --------> > http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Zoranji, Namaskar So could you please share those topics which you were taught? .. as in previous mail you didnt cross the point of what is available for everyone Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal ahimsavm pisze: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Friends, You started a beatiful subject. Long time back my Guruji Pt. Sanjay Rath once told me when teaching me prashna methods" There are so many books and manuscripts on Prasna that we should take 3 lifetimes just to read them all". Then I aksed him how to learn it:)) He said the following: " That is the reason why we study it through Paramapara. Parampara methods give universal rules which can cut across all prashna methods and be applied universally. .." Therefore, What Rafal said is correct. There are certain rules which are appliable to all prashnas. However, before going deeper into the methods itself, one should take the foolowing steps. I agree that London teachings of Prasna are excellent. There are even better, which Guruji taught for JIVA classes, however they are not available. Luckily I was present there and kept notes:)) There are also many methods which he used to employ during the hundreds of readings I used to sit with him, which later on he kindly elaborated and explained. I would like to draw attention to the following four steps which are the most important: 1. Lagna 2. Arudha Lagna 3. Chandra Lagna-Janma Rashi 4. Surya Lagna (which he often emphasized as unjustly forgotten and ignored by vedic astrologers) He used to tell the following> 1. When a person comes to consult you, you REPRESENT a Samvatsara or Sun God, so we should all be aware of that and keep the level of purity by Doing the mantras and keeping ourselves pure. 2. A person who comes is coming for the soul level interacion so we should never hurt them or insult them, but learn what GOd is trying to show us. There is a simple method for that. Draw the prasna chart and see the 12th house. This is the place where you sit, and planets placed inthere and its lord will tell you what message God has for you. 3.By coming to a reading, GOd will give us knowledge about the person. Parampara teaches rules which will tell you: 1. What is the Lagna of the person 2. What is the Arudha Lagna of the person, which planets influence Arudha or the 7th from it 3. Which planets infleunce guna of the Mind (Janma Rasi), and which guna dominates now and in the future, so what we should be able to deal with, as well as the position of Chandra in their natal charts. 4. Which planets influnce Surja Lagna. Just by mere observation of a person, we should be able to understand the position of These points. After carefully observing the nimmitas, and a person, including sparsha, dress, akshara, sthiti etc, Then we should cast a Natal chart along with Prashna Chart. Then other techniques such as Surya Veethi (movement of Vamana) and Chatra rashi (exact angle between Arudha and Lagna as well as the movement of God and our self)should be employed. So, before we continue, it would be nice to analyze step by step not only Prashna chart, but its preparation and nimmitas before the readings. FOr example, if Lagna of a client is not in trines to Prasna Navamsa Lagna, its 7th house or navamsa lagna lord sign, I was explicitelly told not once to ignore the prasna. So, I look forward to discussions on this beatiful topic.. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu. info www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com @ . com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > Excuse me the confusion. > > Its part of 'secret arudha' which is seen from the Quotient-Graha (not > always Moon) - page 3. I have mistaken this with Moon as Vistiji taught > me this with the same example which gave the number 2 - Moon. You should > use the graha based on quotient. * > > * > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > Lagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > http://rohinaa. com > > rafal > > > > > > > > > > Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >> > >> More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: > >> > >> 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, except > >> how to find "navamsa related to the person" if client has given > >> number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my > >> initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. Article is > >> in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, Prasna > >> Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra there... :-/ > >> > >> Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to use > >> numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this procedure > >> which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading Visti's > >> article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi which is > >> solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha causing a > >> problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. Trust > >> me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am not > >> familiar with this. > >> > >> 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article (it > >> would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole job > >> while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a comment > >> on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also in > >> Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer this > >> question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad intention? > >> Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this query > >> is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava for > >> Karya Bhava)? > >> > >> From question it self I can conclude that this native has some > >> serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And I > >> mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this conclusion on > >> analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very curious > >> about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... no > >> relationship based on these "emotions" can last. If this native is > >> not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will be back > >> for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the real > >> root problem (which = "fears & doubts") which is bringing wrong > >> choices in his/her life. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On *Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ ....>/* wrote: > >> > >> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >> @ . com, "sohamsa" <sohamsa@ ..com> > >> Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM > >> > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Maja, Namaskar > >> * > >> *1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on mind, > >> navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see underlying > >> issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I dont > >> use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second querry, > >> I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava from > >> Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's lecture. > >> > >> This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For example > >> for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. > >> Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - what > >> has been done. > >> > >> Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the > >> interest. I have two examples in this regard: > >> > >> *example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is relationship > >> prashna at the starting of dating.* > >> > >> November 16, 2008 > >> Time: 15:49:10 > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > >> > >> After few days native lose interest in relationship with that person. > >> > >> *example 2: if I will get this job? * > >> > >> November 20, 2008 > >> Time: 12:12:36 > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > >> Warsaw, Poland > >> > >> Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in that > >> job even if she could get it. > >> > >> 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see question > >> asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. > >> > >> 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this is the > >> answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable > >> to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some > >> eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya > >> bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this is more > >> likely to happen. > >> > >> We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or enemy of > >> prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when the > >> navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. > >> > >> Hope this helps.* > >> * > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ------------ --------- -------- > >> http://rohinaa. com > >> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >> > >> > >> Maja S(trbac pisze: > >>> Om Gurave Namah > >>> > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >>> Whoever first used "comments bellow" option on this list, God > >>> bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow please. Thanx. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Maja Strbac > >>> > >>> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/* wrote: > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >>> > >>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM > >>> > >>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>> Dear Maja, Namaskar > >>> > >>> Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue > >>> (based on Moon transit). > >>> Don't really get this. Chandra is for "hidden issue" or just > >>> "issue"? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for > >>> hidden Issues. > >>> > >>> I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number scheme > >>> (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's article > >>> "Principles of Prasna". As far as I was > >>> reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on > >>> calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in my > >>> previous email). > >>> > >>> 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to mentioned > >>> article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little bit > >>> confused now... That will tell me the motive and question, > >>> you can answer > >>> based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and > >>> Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based > >>> on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and natural > >>> period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. > >>> I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. > >>> But I have few unclear points related to this. Example: > >>> Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should I do > >>> the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If client > >>> is asking second question, I should observe this from > >>> Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case if I > >>> want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is in > >>> Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for Budh? > >>> > >>> > >>> This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on Prashna > >>> on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though I had > >>> no idea about location where it was lectured. * > >>> * > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Rafal Gendarz > >>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>> http://rohinaa. com > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>> > >>> > >>> Maja S(trbac pisze: > >>>> > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti > >>>> here on the list (after reading his article). His birthday > >>>> was yesterday, so... How convenient you guys are making > >>>> this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi > >>>> based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, which > >>>> should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client gives a > >>>> number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these > >>>> cases. Let's take number 27 for example. We get 3 as result > >>>> after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since there is > >>>> no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would be...? > >>>> Tula ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I have a friend "huched" on asking me to draw Prasna for > >>>> her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did > >>>> not match with her natal lagna, and on that "poor" fifth > >>>> occasion she gave number 108... So now she hates me. > >>>> Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you wrote in > >>>> your email bellow. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Maja Strbac > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>> > >>>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > >>>> wp.pl>/* wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > >>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > >>>> > >>>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM > >>>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Subbu, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with > >>>> rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly > >>>> related to the querry asked I go forward with the > >>>> analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, tenth > >>>> and twelfth then I would skip it. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Subbu pisze: > >>>>> Hare Rama Krishna > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another > >>>>> interesting > >>>>> thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing). > >>>>> > >>>>> I took the message # of Paul on and added > >>>>> the digits to a > >>>>> 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has > >>>>> drawn and > >>>>> understood query is regarding higher education, > >>>>> scholarship, travel > >>>>> etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> One question when you drew the current prasna without > >>>>> paul birth > >>>>> details , how you are sure that god allowed you to > >>>>> answer the same. > >>>>> Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . > >>>>> Please > >>>>> elaborate. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Subbu > >>>>> > >>>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>> > Dear Pram, Namaskar > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the > >>>>> prashna inspired > >>>>> by the > >>>>> > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on > >>>>> one's sadhana as > >>>>> here > >>>>> > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. > >>>>> So I never > >>>>> analyze > >>>>> > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is > >>>>> not the answer > >>>>> for > >>>>> > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I > >>>>> prefer to recite > >>>>> Jyotir > >>>>> > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as > >>>>> then I can > >>>>> analyze > >>>>> > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it > >>>>> into the chakra. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Regards, > >>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com/> > >>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Prem Chopra pisze: > >>>>> > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Dear Rafal Ji > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Namaskaram > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Little confused to get about query self or others, > >>>>> is it right to > >>>>> seek > >>>>> > > present moment and the place where astrologer is > >>>>> analyzing. or > >>>>> the > >>>>> > > where the querier is ? This question help others > >>>>> too for > >>>>> > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. > >>>>> This system is > >>>>> also > >>>>> > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any > >>>>> reason while > >>>>> > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart > >>>>> again the one have > >>>>> to > >>>>> > > check presently position too which is different as > >>>>> well as if it > >>>>> > > changes days then Day lord give different way of > >>>>> answering which > >>>>> may > >>>>> > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other > >>>>> astro analyzer > >>>>> which > >>>>> > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering > >>>>> factor and Rahu > >>>>> is > >>>>> > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying > >>>>> matters. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Thanks > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Tem Pram Chopra > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> <starsuponme@ > >>>>> wp.pl> wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>> > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should > >>>>> not draw > >>>>> prasna > >>>>> > > for ourselves. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > November 22, 2008 > >>>>> > > Time: 10:03:33 > >>>>> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > >>>>> > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00" > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by > >>>>> emotions > >>>>> connected > >>>>> > > to career > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - > >>>>> tenth bhava > >>>>> shows > >>>>> > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. > >>>>> Lagna has > >>>>> Lagnesh > >>>>> > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with > >>>>> sixth lord > >>>>> and > >>>>> > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives > >>>>> positive > >>>>> answer > >>>>> > > altough there can be problem with green card > >>>>> (ninth) finances, > >>>>> > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points > >>>>> in AV. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 > >>>>> Nov-20 > >>>>> Dec; 20 > >>>>> > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As > >>>>> Chandra sits in > >>>>> > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is > >>>>> strongest so from > >>>>> one > >>>>> > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based > >>>>> on that it > >>>>> can > >>>>> > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 > >>>>> May-20 Jun; > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > Regards, > >>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>> > > http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa. /> com > >>>>> <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>> > >>>>> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>> ------ > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>> <http://www.avg. com/> > >>>>> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > >>>>> Release Date: > >>>>> 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------------ --------- -- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ ------------ ------ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------------ - > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - -------- > >> > >> > >> > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 > >> > >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1808 - Release 2008-11-23 18:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Soul Sadhak, Namaste Thank you so much for your help. Mystery solved Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasnasohamsa Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 11:10 PM Dear Maja,I'm no expert, but here's what I read regarding the remainder 0 (you might even have found it out by now):Remainder indicates the number of navamsas gained in the sign.If remainder is zero, take it as 9 (last navamsa).Crux: If remainder is zero, do not add 1 to the quotient.e.g. if number was 27, Quotient would be 3 and rem. zero, then take Rasi as Gemini and Navamsa as last navamsa of Gemini i.e. Gemini.You can use JHora too for the Prasna lagna stuff.Hope it helps.SSsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Maja S(trbac pisze:> >>> >> Om Gurave Namah> >>> >> > >>> >> Dear Rafal, Namaste> >>> >> > >>> >> For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to Visti here on> >> the list (after reading his article). His birthday was yesterday,> >> so... How convenient you guys are making this thread. I am> >> sure you know the answer: Prasna Rasi based on number between 1> >> and 108 given by client, which should be then divided with 9.> >> Help! What if client gives a number like 27, 45 etc? There is no> >> remainder in these cases. Let's take number 27 for example. We> >> get 3 as result after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini.> >> Since there is no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would> >> be...? Tula ?> >>> >> > >>> >> I have a friend "huched" on asking me to draw Prasna for her.> >> Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart did not match> >> with her natal lagna, and on that "poor" fifth occasion she gave> >> number 108... So now she hates me. Please help. I wish if I> >> knew then this what you wrote in your email bellow.> >>> >> > >>> >> Regards,> >>> >> Maja Strbac> >>> >> > >>> >> Hari Om Tat Sat> >>> >> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/* wrote:> >>> >> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna> >> > >> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM> >>> >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >> Dear Subbu, Namaskar> >>> >> Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa with rasi,> >> therefore if I see that Prashna chart is strongly related to> >> the querry asked I go forward with the analysis. If Arudha> >> was not connected to Budha, tenth and twelfth then I would> >> skip it.> >>> >> Regards,> >> Rafal Gendarz> >> ------------ --------- --------> >> http://rohinaa. com> >> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Subbu pisze:> >>> Hare Rama Krishna> >>>> >>> Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did another> >>> interesting> >>> thing which i wanted to share(may not have much bearing).> >>>> >>> I took the message # of Paul on and added the> >>> digits to a> >>> 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna he has drawn and> >>> understood query is regarding higher education, scholarship,> >>> travel> >>> etc.> >>>> >>> One question when you drew the current prasna without paul> >>> birth> >>> details , how you are sure that god allowed you to answer> >>> the same.> >>> Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's prasna . Please> >>> elaborate.> >>>> >>> Regards,> >>>> >>> Subbu> >>> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> >>> <starsuponme@ ...>> >>> wrote:> >>> >> >>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>> > Dear Pram, Namaskar> >>> >> >>> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast the prashna> >>> inspired> >>> by the> >>> > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent on one's> >>> sadhana as> >>> here> >>> > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the answer. So I never> >>> analyze> >>> > the chart which was drawn by someone else as this is not> >>> the answer> >>> for> >>> > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I prefer to> >>> recite> >>> Jyotir> >>> > mantra and draw prashna for the person by myself as then I> >>> can> >>> analyze> >>> > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and map it into> >>> the chakra.> >>> >> >>> > Regards,> >>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com/>> >>> > rafal@> >>> >> >>> > Prem Chopra pisze:> >>> > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~> >>> > >> >>> > > Dear Rafal Ji> >>> > >> >>> > > Namaskaram> >>> > >> >>> > > Little confused to get about query self or others, is it> >>> right to> >>> seek> >>> > > present moment and the place where astrologer is> >>> analyzing. or> >>> the> >>> > > where the querier is ? This question help others too for> >>> > > clearification. I can understand any shortcuts. This> >>> system is> >>> also> >>> > > means that if astrologer is stood up with for any reason> >>> while> >>> > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart again the> >>> one have> >>> to> >>> > > check presently position too which is different as well> >>> as if it> >>> > > changes days then Day lord give different way of> >>> answering which> >>> may> >>> > > querier not able to bear it and move on to other astro> >>> analyzer> >>> which> >>> > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of lingering factor> >>> and Rahu> >>> is> >>> > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in delaying matters.> >>> > >> >>> > > Thanks> >>> > >> >>> > > Tem Pram Chopra> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal Gendarz> >>> <starsuponme@> >>> wp.pl> wrote:> >>> > >> >>> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>> > > Dear Paul, Namaskar> >>> > >> >>> > > The advise coming from tradition is that we should not draw> >>> prasna> >>> > > for ourselves.> >>> > >> >>> > > I have drawn the prasna for you:> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > November 22, 2008> >>> > > Time: 10:03:33> >>> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> >>> > > Place: 21 E 00' 00", 52 N 15' 00"> >>> > >> >>> > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by emotions> >>> connected> >>> > > to career> >>> > >> >>> > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to career> >>> > >> >>> > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career querry> >>> > >> >>> > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with Moon - tenth bhava> >>> shows> >>> > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine related. Lagna has> >>> Lagnesh> >>> > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga with sixth lord> >>> and> >>> > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which gives positive> >>> answer> >>> > > altough there can be problem with green card (ninth)> >>> finances,> >>> > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low points in AV.> >>> > >> >>> > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen in 20 Nov-20> >>> Dec; 20> >>> > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As Chandra sits in> >>> > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is strongest so> >>> from> >>> one> >>> > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So based on> >>> that it> >>> can> >>> > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) 20 May-20 Jun;> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > Regards,> >>> > > Rafal Gendarz> >>> > > ------------ --------- --------> >>> > > http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa. /> com> >>> <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa. com/>>> >>> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...>> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------> >>> --------- -> >>> ------> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > > >>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg. com/>> >>> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 -> >>> Release Date:> >>> 2008-11-21 18:24> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------------------- ----> >>>> >>>> >>> > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >>>> >>> > >>> >>> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------------> >>> >>> >> > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - Release 2008-11-21 18:24> >>> >> > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -------> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release 2008-11-22 18:59> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Very gladly. Just bear with me for a while, I am writting SIVA lecture right now. As far as the points crossed,I am limited by Guruji's instruction:) Best wishes Zoran , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji, Namaskar > > So could you please share those topics which you were taught? .. as in > previous mail you didnt cross the point of what is available for everyone > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Friends, > > You started a beatiful subject. Long time back my Guruji Pt. Sanjay > > Rath once told me when teaching me prashna methods " There are so > > many books and manuscripts on Prasna that we should take 3 lifetimes > > just to read them all " . Then I aksed him how to learn it:)) He said > > the following: " That is the reason why we study it through > > Paramapara. Parampara methods give universal rules which can cut > > across all prashna methods and be applied universally. .. " > > Therefore, > > What Rafal said is correct. There are certain rules which are > > appliable to all prashnas. However, before going deeper into the > > methods itself, one should take the foolowing steps. I agree that > > London teachings of Prasna are excellent. There are even better, > > which Guruji taught for JIVA classes, however they are not > > available. Luckily I was present there and kept notes:)) > > There are also many methods which he used to employ during the > > hundreds of readings I used to sit with him, which later on he > > kindly elaborated and explained. > > I would like to draw attention to the following four steps which are > > the most important: > > 1. Lagna > > 2. Arudha Lagna > > 3. Chandra Lagna-Janma Rashi > > 4. Surya Lagna (which he often emphasized as unjustly forgotten and > > ignored by vedic astrologers) > > He used to tell the following> > > 1. When a person comes to consult you, you REPRESENT a Samvatsara or > > Sun God, so we should all be aware of that and keep the level of > > purity by Doing the mantras and keeping ourselves pure. > > 2. A person who comes is coming for the soul level interacion so we > > should never hurt them or insult them, but learn what GOd is trying > > to show us. There is a simple method for that. Draw the prasna chart > > and see the 12th house. This is the place where you sit, and planets > > placed inthere and its lord will tell you what message God has for > > you. > > 3.By coming to a reading, GOd will give us knowledge about the > > person. Parampara teaches rules which will tell you: > > 1. What is the Lagna of the person > > 2. What is the Arudha Lagna of the person, which planets influence > > Arudha or the 7th from it > > 3. Which planets infleunce guna of the Mind (Janma Rasi), and which > > guna dominates now and in the future, so what we should be able to > > deal with, as well as the position of Chandra in their natal charts. > > 4. Which planets influnce Surja Lagna. > > Just by mere observation of a person, we should be able to > > understand the position of These points. > > After carefully observing the nimmitas, and a person, including > > sparsha, dress, akshara, sthiti etc, Then we should cast a Natal > > chart along with Prashna Chart. > > Then other techniques such as Surya Veethi (movement of Vamana) and > > Chatra rashi (exact angle between Arudha and Lagna as well as the > > movement of God and our self)should be employed. > > So, before we continue, it would be nice to analyze step by step not > > only Prashna chart, but its preparation and nimmitas before the > > readings. > > FOr example, if Lagna of a client is not in trines to Prasna > > Navamsa Lagna, its 7th house or navamsa lagna lord sign, I was > > explicitelly told not once to ignore the prasna. > > So, I look forward to discussions on this beatiful topic.. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > Excuse me the confusion. > > > > > > Its part of 'secret arudha' which is seen from the Quotient- Graha > > (not > > > always Moon) - page 3. I have mistaken this with Moon as Vistiji > > taught > > > me this with the same example which gave the number 2 - Moon. You > > should > > > use the graha based on quotient. * > > > > > > * > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > > > > > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > > > >> Dear Rafal, Namaste > > > >> > > > >> More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: > > > >> > > > >> 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, > > except > > > >> how to find " navamsa related to the person " if client has given > > > >> number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my > > > >> initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. > > Article is > > > >> in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, > > Prasna > > > >> Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra > > there... :-/ > > > >> > > > >> Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to > > use > > > >> numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this > > procedure > > > >> which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading > > Visti's > > > >> article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi > > which is > > > >> solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha > > causing a > > > >> problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. > > Trust > > > >> me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am > > not > > > >> familiar with this. > > > >> > > > >> 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article > > (it > > > >> would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole > > job > > > >> while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a > > comment > > > >> on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also > > in > > > >> Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer > > this > > > >> question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad > > intention? > > > >> Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this > > query > > > >> is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava > > for > > > >> Karya Bhava)? > > > >> > > > >> From question it self I can conclude that this native has some > > > >> serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And > > I > > > >> mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this > > conclusion on > > > >> analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very > > curious > > > >> about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... > > no > > > >> relationship based on these " emotions " can last. If this native > > is > > > >> not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will > > be back > > > >> for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the > > real > > > >> root problem (which = " fears & doubts " ) which is bringing wrong > > > >> choices in his/her life. > > > >> > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > > > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- On *Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ ...>/* wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > > > >> > > <%40>, " sohamsa " > > <sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > > >> Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM > > > >> > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > >> * > > > >> *1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on > > mind, > > > >> navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see > > underlying > > > >> issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I > > dont > > > >> use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second > > querry, > > > >> I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava > > from > > > >> Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's > > lecture. > > > >> > > > >> This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For > > example > > > >> for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. > > > >> Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - > > what > > > >> has been done. > > > >> > > > >> Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the > > > >> interest. I have two examples in this regard: > > > >> > > > >> *example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is > > relationship > > > >> prashna at the starting of dating.* > > > >> > > > >> November 16, 2008 > > > >> Time: 15:49:10 > > > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > >> > > > >> After few days native lose interest in relationship with > > that person. > > > >> > > > >> *example 2: if I will get this job? * > > > >> > > > >> November 20, 2008 > > > >> Time: 12:12:36 > > > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > >> Warsaw, Poland > > > >> > > > >> Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in > > that > > > >> job even if she could get it. > > > >> > > > >> 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see > > question > > > >> asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. > > > >> > > > >> 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this > > is the > > > >> answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable > > > >> to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some > > > >> eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya > > > >> bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this > > is more > > > >> likely to happen. > > > >> > > > >> We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or > > enemy of > > > >> prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when > > the > > > >> navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. > > > >> > > > >> Hope this helps.* > > > >> * > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Rafal Gendarz > > > >> ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> http://rohinaa. com > > > >> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > >>> Om Gurave Namah > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > > > >>> Whoever first used " comments bellow " option on this list, > > God > > > >>> bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow > > please. Thanx. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Maja Strbac > > > >>> > > > >>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > wp.pl>/* wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > > > >>> > > > >>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM > > > >>> > > > >>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>> Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > >>> > > > >>> Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue > > > >>> (based on Moon transit). > > > >>> Don't really get this. Chandra is for " hidden issue " > > or just > > > >>> " issue " ? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for > > > >>> hidden Issues. > > > >>> > > > >>> I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number > > scheme > > > >>> (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's > > article > > > >>> " Principles of Prasna " . As far as I was > > > >>> reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on > > > >>> calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in > > my > > > >>> previous email). > > > >>> > > > >>> 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to > > mentioned > > > >>> article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little > > bit > > > >>> confused now... That will tell me the motive and > > question, > > > >>> you can answer > > > >>> based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and > > > >>> Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based > > > >>> on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and > > natural > > > >>> period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. > > > >>> I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. > > > >>> But I have few unclear points related to this. > > Example: > > > >>> Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should > > I do > > > >>> the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If > > client > > > >>> is asking second question, I should observe this from > > > >>> Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case > > if I > > > >>> want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is > > in > > > >>> Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for > > Budh? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on > > Prashna > > > >>> on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though > > I had > > > >>> no idea about location where it was lectured. * > > > >>> * > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz > > > >>> ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>> http://rohinaa. com > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to > > Visti > > > >>>> here on the list (after reading his article). His > > birthday > > > >>>> was yesterday, so... How convenient you guys are > > making > > > >>>> this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna > > Rasi > > > >>>> based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, > > which > > > >>>> should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client > > gives a > > > >>>> number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these > > > >>>> cases. Let's take number 27 for example. We get 3 as > > result > > > >>>> after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since > > there is > > > >>>> no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would > > be...? > > > >>>> Tula ? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I have a friend " huched " on asking me to draw Prasna > > for > > > >>>> her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart > > did > > > >>>> not match with her natal lagna, and on that " poor " > > fifth > > > >>>> occasion she gave number 108... So now she hates > > me. > > > >>>> Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you > > wrote in > > > >>>> your email bellow. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Maja Strbac > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > >>>> wp.pl>/* wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > >>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM > > > >>>> > > > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>>> Dear Subbu, Namaskar > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa > > with > > > >>>> rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is > > strongly > > > >>>> related to the querry asked I go forward with the > > > >>>> analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, > > tenth > > > >>>> and twelfth then I would skip it. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > > > >>>> ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>>> http://rohinaa. com > > > >>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Subbu pisze: > > > >>>>> Hare Rama Krishna > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did > > another > > > >>>>> interesting > > > >>>>> thing which i wanted to share(may not have much > > bearing). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I took the message # of Paul on and > > added > > > >>>>> the digits to a > > > >>>>> 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna > > he has > > > >>>>> drawn and > > > >>>>> understood query is regarding higher education, > > > >>>>> scholarship, travel > > > >>>>> etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> One question when you drew the current prasna > > without > > > >>>>> paul birth > > > >>>>> details , how you are sure that god allowed you > > to > > > >>>>> answer the same. > > > >>>>> Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's > > prasna . > > > >>>>> Please > > > >>>>> elaborate. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Subbu > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > >>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>>>> > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast > > the > > > >>>>> prashna inspired > > > >>>>> by the > > > >>>>> > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent > > on > > > >>>>> one's sadhana as > > > >>>>> here > > > >>>>> > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the > > answer. > > > >>>>> So I never > > > >>>>> analyze > > > >>>>> > the chart which was drawn by someone else as > > this is > > > >>>>> not the answer > > > >>>>> for > > > >>>>> > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I > > > >>>>> prefer to recite > > > >>>>> Jyotir > > > >>>>> > mantra and draw prashna for the person by > > myself as > > > >>>>> then I can > > > >>>>> analyze > > > >>>>> > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and > > map it > > > >>>>> into the chakra. > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Regards, > > > >>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com/ <http://rohinaa.com/>> > > > >>>>> > rafal@ > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Prem Chopra pisze: > > > >>>>> > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Namaskaram > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Little confused to get about query self or > > others, > > > >>>>> is it right to > > > >>>>> seek > > > >>>>> > > present moment and the place where > > astrologer is > > > >>>>> analyzing. or > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>> > > where the querier is ? This question help > > others > > > >>>>> too for > > > >>>>> > > clearification. I can understand any > > shortcuts. > > > >>>>> This system is > > > >>>>> also > > > >>>>> > > means that if astrologer is stood up with > > for any > > > >>>>> reason while > > > >>>>> > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart > > > >>>>> again the one have > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>> > > check presently position too which is > > different as > > > >>>>> well as if it > > > >>>>> > > changes days then Day lord give different > > way of > > > >>>>> answering which > > > >>>>> may > > > >>>>> > > querier not able to bear it and move on to > > other > > > >>>>> astro analyzer > > > >>>>> which > > > >>>>> > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of > > lingering > > > >>>>> factor and Rahu > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>> > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in > > delaying > > > >>>>> matters. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Thanks > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > >>>>> <starsuponme@ > > > >>>>> wp.pl> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>>>> > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > The advise coming from tradition is that we > > should > > > >>>>> not draw > > > >>>>> prasna > > > >>>>> > > for ourselves. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > November 22, 2008 > > > >>>>> > > Time: 10:03:33 > > > >>>>> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > >>>>> > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by > > > >>>>> emotions > > > >>>>> connected > > > >>>>> > > to career > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to > > career > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career > > querry > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with > > Moon - > > > >>>>> tenth bhava > > > >>>>> shows > > > >>>>> > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine > > related. > > > >>>>> Lagna has > > > >>>>> Lagnesh > > > >>>>> > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga > > with > > > >>>>> sixth lord > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>> > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which > > gives > > > >>>>> positive > > > >>>>> answer > > > >>>>> > > altough there can be problem with green card > > > >>>>> (ninth) finances, > > > >>>>> > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low > > points > > > >>>>> in AV. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen > > in 20 > > > >>>>> Nov-20 > > > >>>>> Dec; 20 > > > >>>>> > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As > > > >>>>> Chandra sits in > > > >>>>> > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is > > > >>>>> strongest so from > > > >>>>> one > > > >>>>> > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So > > based > > > >>>>> on that it > > > >>>>> can > > > >>>>> > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) > > 20 > > > >>>>> May-20 Jun; > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Regards, > > > >>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz > > > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>>>> > > http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa. / <http://rohinaa./>> com > > > >>>>> <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.com/>>> > > > >>>>> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > > > >>>>> --------- --------- - > > > >>>>> ------ > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>>>> <http://www.avg. com/ <http://www.avg.com/>> > > > >>>>> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: > > 270.9.9/1804 - > > > >>>>> Release Date: > > > >>>>> 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > ------------ --------- -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > > Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- - > > ------------ ------ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > > Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ --- - > > ------------ - > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release > > 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- -- - > > -------- > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com> > > > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: > > 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- - - > > ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: > > 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1808 - Release Date: 2008-11-23 18:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Very gladly. Just bear with me for a while, I am writting SIVA lecture right now. As far as the points crossed,I am limited by Guruji's instruction:) Best wishes Zoran , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji, Namaskar > > So could you please share those topics which you were taught? .. as in > previous mail you didnt cross the point of what is available for everyone > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Friends, > > You started a beatiful subject. Long time back my Guruji Pt. Sanjay > > Rath once told me when teaching me prashna methods " There are so > > many books and manuscripts on Prasna that we should take 3 lifetimes > > just to read them all " . Then I aksed him how to learn it:)) He said > > the following: " That is the reason why we study it through > > Paramapara. Parampara methods give universal rules which can cut > > across all prashna methods and be applied universally. .. " > > Therefore, > > What Rafal said is correct. There are certain rules which are > > appliable to all prashnas. However, before going deeper into the > > methods itself, one should take the foolowing steps. I agree that > > London teachings of Prasna are excellent. There are even better, > > which Guruji taught for JIVA classes, however they are not > > available. Luckily I was present there and kept notes:)) > > There are also many methods which he used to employ during the > > hundreds of readings I used to sit with him, which later on he > > kindly elaborated and explained. > > I would like to draw attention to the following four steps which are > > the most important: > > 1. Lagna > > 2. Arudha Lagna > > 3. Chandra Lagna-Janma Rashi > > 4. Surya Lagna (which he often emphasized as unjustly forgotten and > > ignored by vedic astrologers) > > He used to tell the following> > > 1. When a person comes to consult you, you REPRESENT a Samvatsara or > > Sun God, so we should all be aware of that and keep the level of > > purity by Doing the mantras and keeping ourselves pure. > > 2. A person who comes is coming for the soul level interacion so we > > should never hurt them or insult them, but learn what GOd is trying > > to show us. There is a simple method for that. Draw the prasna chart > > and see the 12th house. This is the place where you sit, and planets > > placed inthere and its lord will tell you what message God has for > > you. > > 3.By coming to a reading, GOd will give us knowledge about the > > person. Parampara teaches rules which will tell you: > > 1. What is the Lagna of the person > > 2. What is the Arudha Lagna of the person, which planets influence > > Arudha or the 7th from it > > 3. Which planets infleunce guna of the Mind (Janma Rasi), and which > > guna dominates now and in the future, so what we should be able to > > deal with, as well as the position of Chandra in their natal charts. > > 4. Which planets influnce Surja Lagna. > > Just by mere observation of a person, we should be able to > > understand the position of These points. > > After carefully observing the nimmitas, and a person, including > > sparsha, dress, akshara, sthiti etc, Then we should cast a Natal > > chart along with Prashna Chart. > > Then other techniques such as Surya Veethi (movement of Vamana) and > > Chatra rashi (exact angle between Arudha and Lagna as well as the > > movement of God and our self)should be employed. > > So, before we continue, it would be nice to analyze step by step not > > only Prashna chart, but its preparation and nimmitas before the > > readings. > > FOr example, if Lagna of a client is not in trines to Prasna > > Navamsa Lagna, its 7th house or navamsa lagna lord sign, I was > > explicitelly told not once to ignore the prasna. > > So, I look forward to discussions on this beatiful topic.. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > Excuse me the confusion. > > > > > > Its part of 'secret arudha' which is seen from the Quotient- Graha > > (not > > > always Moon) - page 3. I have mistaken this with Moon as Vistiji > > taught > > > me this with the same example which gave the number 2 - Moon. You > > should > > > use the graha based on quotient. * > > > > > > * > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz pisze: > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is with Guru in dhanus, perfect choices. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > > > > > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > > > >> Dear Rafal, Namaste > > > >> > > > >> More than helpful. Thank you very much. Yet: > > > >> > > > >> 1. All what you wrote under this point is in Visti's article, > > except > > > >> how to find " navamsa related to the person " if client has given > > > >> number which is dividable with 9 without reminder, which was my > > > >> initial question. And except Prasna-Chandra calculation. > > Article is > > > >> in front of me at the moment and all I see there is Lagnapada, > > Prasna > > > >> Rasi and Secret Prasna Arudha calculation. No Prasna-Chandra > > there... :-/ > > > >> > > > >> Though I must add that first time when I was explained how to > > use > > > >> numbers given by clients, explanation was precisely this > > procedure > > > >> which you are mentioning. It was much before I was reading > > Visti's > > > >> article. Number between 1 and 108, divided with 12 for rasi > > which is > > > >> solution to the problem and subtracting digits for Graha > > causing a > > > >> problem. I was surprised not to find this in Visti's article. > > Trust > > > >> me, it is not there. Only... how do we get naksatra? I am > > not > > > >> familiar with this. > > > >> > > > >> 2. To prove I was reading this so many times mentioned article > > (it > > > >> would be terrible from my side to expect you to do the whole > > job > > > >> while I am being nothing else but lazy , I will give you a > > comment > > > >> on first prasna. I do see inimical grahas towards Karyesa (also > > in > > > >> Karya Bhava) and in 7th bhava. Why did you decide to answer > > this > > > >> question in first place if this clearly shows clients bad > > intention? > > > >> Or my understanding of Karya Bhava and Karyesha choice for this > > query > > > >> is wrong (relationship issue, so Sk for Karyesha and 7th Bhava > > for > > > >> Karya Bhava)? > > > >> > > > >> From question it self I can conclude that this native has some > > > >> serious afflictions regarding partnership in his/her chart. And > > I > > > >> mean REALLY SERIOUS. Am I correct (I can not base this > > conclusion on > > > >> analyzing Prasna you gave. I am not that good. But I am very > > curious > > > >> about the answer)? So much doubt and fear in this question... > > no > > > >> relationship based on these " emotions " can last. If this native > > is > > > >> not your friend, this is great for your finances. He/She will > > be back > > > >> for more and more Prasnas on regular basis and never solve the > > real > > > >> root problem (which = " fears & doubts " ) which is bringing wrong > > > >> choices in his/her life. > > > >> > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > > > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- On *Sun, 11/23/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ ...>/* wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > > > >> > > <%40>, " sohamsa " > > <sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > > >> Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:57 AM > > > >> > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > >> * > > > >> *1. Prasna Rasi based on your calculation shows what is on > > mind, > > > >> navamsa shows related person, secret arudha is to see > > underlying > > > >> issue of prashna (which native may not be aware of) which I > > dont > > > >> use a lot infact. Chandra position shows nature of second > > querry, > > > >> I was referring to whole procedure of counting the bhava > > from > > > >> Prashna-chandra which I believe is explained in Visti's > > lecture. > > > >> > > > >> This number technique we can use also in natal chart. For > > example > > > >> for number 13 we have 4 (1+3) and Rahu will show the issue. > > > >> Graha here shows issue, rasi the remedy, whilst nakshatra - > > what > > > >> has been done. > > > >> > > > >> Infact I have seen that Lagnesh in eight makes one lose the > > > >> interest. I have two examples in this regard: > > > >> > > > >> *example 1 : if this person will cheat me? this is > > relationship > > > >> prashna at the starting of dating.* > > > >> > > > >> November 16, 2008 > > > >> Time: 15:49:10 > > > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > >> > > > >> After few days native lose interest in relationship with > > that person. > > > >> > > > >> *example 2: if I will get this job? * > > > >> > > > >> November 20, 2008 > > > >> Time: 12:12:36 > > > >> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > >> Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > >> Warsaw, Poland > > > >> > > > >> Again Lagnesh in randhrabhava. Person has lost interest in > > that > > > >> job even if she could get it. > > > >> > > > >> 2. Normal or number-arudha (from my example) is to see > > question > > > >> asked. Here bhava shows motive whilst lord shows querry. > > > >> > > > >> 3. Chattira Rasi shows blessings/curses and remedies, this > > is the > > > >> answer from Jagannath. It also shows what is advicable > > > >> to do in certain dillemas. To see if we have access to some > > > >> eventh during this year see the connection of Karyesh, Karya > > > >> bhava and Lagna - if there is Chandra aspecting then this > > is more > > > >> likely to happen. > > > >> > > > >> We dont answer the querry if Shani/Rahu are in Lagna or > > enemy of > > > >> prashna-karaka is in karyabhava. We also skip Prashna when > > the > > > >> navamsa doesnt indicate the querrist. > > > >> > > > >> Hope this helps.* > > > >> * > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Rafal Gendarz > > > >> ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> http://rohinaa. com > > > >> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > >>> Om Gurave Namah > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > > > >>> Whoever first used " comments bellow " option on this list, > > God > > > >>> bless him/her. It is so much easier. Check bellow > > please. Thanx. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Maja Strbac > > > >>> > > > >>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > wp.pl>/* wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > > > >>> > > > >>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 4:50 PM > > > >>> > > > >>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>> Dear Maja, Namaskar > > > >>> > > > >>> Your counting is to find out the issue and hidden issue > > > >>> (based on Moon transit). > > > >>> Don't really get this. Chandra is for " hidden issue " > > or just > > > >>> " issue " ? I thought that we use 8th bhava in Prasna for > > > >>> hidden Issues. > > > >>> > > > >>> I use number to determine Arudha. So I use 12 number > > scheme > > > >>> (aries-pisces) ; We are both talking about Visti's > > article > > > >>> " Principles of Prasna " . As far as I was > > > >>> reading it, calculation of Prasna Arudha is based on > > > >>> calculation of Prasna Rasi (which I was mentioning in > > my > > > >>> previous email). > > > >>> > > > >>> 27 is Gemini then; 45 is Dhanus. And according to > > mentioned > > > >>> article this is how we get Number Lagna. I am a little > > bit > > > >>> confused now... That will tell me the motive and > > question, > > > >>> you can answer > > > >>> based on the connection of karaka, bhava karaka and > > > >>> Lagna/Lagnesh/ Moon. Timings is also based > > > >>> on the yoga between them using Narayana dasa or/and > > natural > > > >>> period of planet multiplied by its navamsa passed. > > > >>> I like shortcuts, so I prefer natural period of planet. > > > >>> But I have few unclear points related to this. > > Example: > > > >>> Prasna Rasi Lagna is in Mesh joined with Guru. Should > > I do > > > >>> the timing based on number of navamsa for Mangal? If > > client > > > >>> is asking second question, I should observe this from > > > >>> Chandra of course, but what about timing in this case > > if I > > > >>> want to judge it in similar way? Let's say Chandra is > > in > > > >>> Kanya, should I use number of navamsa crossed for > > Budh? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> This is in London Lecture and my Guruji Lecture on > > Prashna > > > >>> on Sri Garuda. Yes, yes, currently my favorite, though > > I had > > > >>> no idea about location where it was lectured. * > > > >>> * > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Rafal Gendarz > > > >>> ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>> http://rohinaa. com > > > >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Maja S(trbac pisze: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Om Gurave Namah > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> For few weeks I was lazy to post this question to > > Visti > > > >>>> here on the list (after reading his article). His > > birthday > > > >>>> was yesterday, so... How convenient you guys are > > making > > > >>>> this thread. I am sure you know the answer: Prasna > > Rasi > > > >>>> based on number between 1 and 108 given by client, > > which > > > >>>> should be then divided with 9. Help! What if client > > gives a > > > >>>> number like 27, 45 etc? There is no remainder in these > > > >>>> cases. Let's take number 27 for example. We get 3 as > > result > > > >>>> after dividing it with 9. So this is Gemini. Since > > there is > > > >>>> no remainder, navamsa of Gemini in this case would > > be...? > > > >>>> Tula ? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I have a friend " huched " on asking me to draw Prasna > > for > > > >>>> her. Four out of five times, D9 lagna in Prasna chart > > did > > > >>>> not match with her natal lagna, and on that " poor " > > fifth > > > >>>> occasion she gave number 108... So now she hates > > me. > > > >>>> Please help. I wish if I knew then this what you > > wrote in > > > >>>> your email bellow. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Maja Strbac > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --- On *Sat, 11/22/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ > > > >>>> wp.pl>/* wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> > > > >>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Paul Prasna > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Saturday, November 22, 2008, 9:09 AM > > > >>>> > > > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>>> Dear Subbu, Namaskar > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sometimes we dont have data to compare navamsa > > with > > > >>>> rasi, therefore if I see that Prashna chart is > > strongly > > > >>>> related to the querry asked I go forward with the > > > >>>> analysis. If Arudha was not connected to Budha, > > tenth > > > >>>> and twelfth then I would skip it. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Regards, > > > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > > > >>>> ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>>> http://rohinaa. com > > > >>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Subbu pisze: > > > >>>>> Hare Rama Krishna > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks Rafal ji for drawing this prasna. I did > > another > > > >>>>> interesting > > > >>>>> thing which i wanted to share(may not have much > > bearing). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I took the message # of Paul on and > > added > > > >>>>> the digits to a > > > >>>>> 2 digit #. Got Prasna Arudha in 9th from lagna > > he has > > > >>>>> drawn and > > > >>>>> understood query is regarding higher education, > > > >>>>> scholarship, travel > > > >>>>> etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> One question when you drew the current prasna > > without > > > >>>>> paul birth > > > >>>>> details , how you are sure that god allowed you > > to > > > >>>>> answer the same. > > > >>>>> Did you match D9 of your prasna with Paul's > > prasna . > > > >>>>> Please > > > >>>>> elaborate. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Subbu > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > >>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>>>> > Dear Pram, Namaskar > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Jyotisha is Surya so he decides when to cast > > the > > > >>>>> prashna inspired > > > >>>>> by the > > > >>>>> > Devata he worships. Prashna is very dependent > > on > > > >>>>> one's sadhana as > > > >>>>> here > > > >>>>> > God speaks to Jyotisha directly giving the > > answer. > > > >>>>> So I never > > > >>>>> analyze > > > >>>>> > the chart which was drawn by someone else as > > this is > > > >>>>> not the answer > > > >>>>> for > > > >>>>> > me and I dont even know if there is answer so I > > > >>>>> prefer to recite > > > >>>>> Jyotir > > > >>>>> > mantra and draw prashna for the person by > > myself as > > > >>>>> then I can > > > >>>>> analyze > > > >>>>> > the nimitta directly from my surrounding and > > map it > > > >>>>> into the chakra. > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Regards, > > > >>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com/ <http://rohinaa.com/>> > > > >>>>> > rafal@ > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Prem Chopra pisze: > > > >>>>> > > ~~~ Om Shree Ganeshaaye Namaha ~~~ > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Dear Rafal Ji > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Namaskaram > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Little confused to get about query self or > > others, > > > >>>>> is it right to > > > >>>>> seek > > > >>>>> > > present moment and the place where > > astrologer is > > > >>>>> analyzing. or > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>> > > where the querier is ? This question help > > others > > > >>>>> too for > > > >>>>> > > clearification. I can understand any > > shortcuts. > > > >>>>> This system is > > > >>>>> also > > > >>>>> > > means that if astrologer is stood up with > > for any > > > >>>>> reason while > > > >>>>> > > analyzing the chart are rejoin the same chart > > > >>>>> again the one have > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>> > > check presently position too which is > > different as > > > >>>>> well as if it > > > >>>>> > > changes days then Day lord give different > > way of > > > >>>>> answering which > > > >>>>> may > > > >>>>> > > querier not able to bear it and move on to > > other > > > >>>>> astro analyzer > > > >>>>> which > > > >>>>> > > means Saturn is taking the advantage of > > lingering > > > >>>>> factor and Rahu > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>> > > enjoying the uneasiness of the person in > > delaying > > > >>>>> matters. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Thanks > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Tem Pram Chopra > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > >>>>> <starsuponme@ > > > >>>>> wp.pl> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >>>>> > > Dear Paul, Namaskar > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > The advise coming from tradition is that we > > should > > > >>>>> not draw > > > >>>>> prasna > > > >>>>> > > for ourselves. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > I have drawn the prasna for you: > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > November 22, 2008 > > > >>>>> > > Time: 10:03:33 > > > >>>>> > > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT) > > > >>>>> > > Place: 21 E 00' 00 " , 52 N 15' 00 " > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > 1) Arudha lagna in tenth - querry inspired by > > > >>>>> emotions > > > >>>>> connected > > > >>>>> > > to career > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > 2) Arudha lagnesh Budha - querry related to > > career > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > 3) Budha in twelfth bhava - abroad-career > > querry > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Chattira Rasi falls to tenth bhava with > > Moon - > > > >>>>> tenth bhava > > > >>>>> shows > > > >>>>> > > career again whilst Moon shows medicine > > related. > > > >>>>> Lagna has > > > >>>>> Lagnesh > > > >>>>> > > aspected by Moon and strong in Ashtakavarga > > with > > > >>>>> sixth lord > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>> > > Budha lords tenth and its in twelfth which > > gives > > > >>>>> positive > > > >>>>> answer > > > >>>>> > > altough there can be problem with green card > > > >>>>> (ninth) finances, > > > >>>>> > > promotions, subordinates as Vrscika has low > > points > > > >>>>> in AV. > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > The yoga sits in dual signs so it can happen > > in 20 > > > >>>>> Nov-20 > > > >>>>> Dec; 20 > > > >>>>> > > Feb-20 Mar; 20 May-20 Jun; 20 Aug-20 Sep; As > > > >>>>> Chandra sits in > > > >>>>> > > Chattira it can happen very quick; Guru is > > > >>>>> strongest so from > > > >>>>> one > > > >>>>> > > month to eight months - 20 Dec to 20 Jul. So > > based > > > >>>>> on that it > > > >>>>> can > > > >>>>> > > happen very soon or in : a) 20 Feb-20 Mar b) > > 20 > > > >>>>> May-20 Jun; > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Regards, > > > >>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz > > > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >>>>> > > http://rohinaa. <http://rohinaa. / <http://rohinaa./>> com > > > >>>>> <http://www.rohinaa. com/ > > <http://www.rohinaa. com/ <http://www.rohinaa.com/>>> > > > >>>>> > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal@ ...> > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > > > >>>>> --------- --------- - > > > >>>>> ------ > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>>>> <http://www.avg. com/ <http://www.avg.com/>> > > > >>>>> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: > > 270.9.9/1804 - > > > >>>>> Release Date: > > > >>>>> 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > ------------ --------- -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > > Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- - > > ------------ ------ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1804 - > > Release 2008-11-21 18:24 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------ --- - > > ------------ - > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > > >>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release > > 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- -- - > > -------- > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com> > > > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: > > 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- - - > > ------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1806 - Release Date: > > 2008-11-22 18:59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1808 - Release Date: 2008-11-23 18:59 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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