Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Dear Jaan, Namaste. > > if not, what would show the deity i am drawn to naturally? Ishta Devata is showing this. But remember that each planet influencing the 12th from Karkamsha may indicate several Deities. Like Sun there may indicate Surya/Rama/Shiva or some toher gods in other religions. I would say that in Christianity it would indicate the Father of the Trinity, etc. You judge by the particular qualities that the planet represents. Moon for example may indicate Krishna, or Balaram as well, or any Mother Goddess of other religions, or Virgin Mary in Christianity etc. Rules for judging: 1. Planets ocuppying the sign (in order of strength as pre Jaimini) 2. Planets aspecting it by Rasi Dristi (in the same order) 3. The lord of the sign. Yours, Gauranga das > > love > Jaan > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2000 Report Share Posted December 28, 2000 Jaya Jaya Jagannath, Daer Jaan, Me too had a hard time with this question. I think it doesn't. Any one could have any planets in 12th from AK, but still the natural drawn deity could be darkness. I have Ketu in 12th from AK in few vargas including D9 and D 60. So my ishta devata is lord Ganapati from last birth and still continue this life too. But my deity, selected my self was Laxmi & Sarasvati. When I was learn from Guru, I ask to worship Ganapathi, but My Guru adviced me pray for BK before reach Ishtadevata and still could not reach lord Ganapati. How ever I have a habit from last 10 years to start any Jyotish writing with " Sri Ganesha Namaya " ! The picture of lord Ganapati was always with me. How ? May be Sanjayji can answer this. Hare Krshna Karu >Does the 12th from karakamsa indicate the deity we are naturally >drawn to or does it show the deity we should be worshping to guide >the Atma? >Say if the 12th from karakamsa indicates Durga as the ishta devata >but naturally someone is exposed to Shri Vishnu worship by the >parents etc>>Leaving aside a planet in the 12th from karakamsa, can a planet that >aspects by rasi drishti the atmakaraka in both rasi and navamsa >charts indicate a deity we are naturally drawn to? >eg mercury aspects atmakaraka in rasi and navamsa, and is conjuct >with 9th lord in rasi and 12th lord in navamsa. Can this indicate >being drawn to Shri Vishnu?>>Does mercurys association with the 9th lord in rasi and also 12th >lord in navamsa make the case stronger for his influence on worship >habits?>>love>Jaan>>>>-------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~>>eGroups eLerts>It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free!>>>>OM'>http://click./1/9698/1/_/2192/_/977769619/>-->>>OM TAT SAT>Archive: varahamihira>Info: varahamihira/info.html>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Jaan, Namaste. > Does the 12th from karakamsa indicate the deity we are naturally > drawn to or does it show the deity we should be worshping to guide > the Atma? > Say if the 12th from karakamsa indicates Durga as the ishta devata > but naturally someone is exposed to Shri Vishnu worship by the > parents etc Deity worshiped by the parents is seen from 2nd from D-20 lagna. The favourite Deity is seen from 5th to D-20 Lagna. > Leaving aside a planet in the 12th from karakamsa, can a planet that > aspects by rasi drishti the atmakaraka in both rasi and navamsa > charts indicate a deity we are naturally drawn to? No. The principle is as above. > eg mercury aspects atmakaraka in rasi and navamsa, and is conjuct > with 9th lord in rasi and 12th lord in navamsa. Can this indicate > being drawn to Shri Vishnu? No. See 5th in Rasi or D-20. Also 6th from Amatyakarak in D-9 indicates Palanakarta, or the Deity who protects the native. The 9th from Karakamsha is Dharma-devata, i.e. the Deity that one worships as a matter of duty. So Sri Vishnu should be indicated in one of these. Please check the chart. > Does mercurys association with the 9th lord in rasi and also 12th > lord in navamsa make the case stronger for his influence on worship > habits? This is not specific. 9th in Rasi will be Guru rather than Deity, and 12th in Navamsha will more relate to meditation abilities. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga Phone:+36-309-140-839 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Dear Jaan, Jaya Jagnnath Comments are given under: [sri Guru] Ishta devata > Does the 12th from karakamsa indicate the deity we are naturally > drawn to or does it show the deity we should be worshping to guide > the Atma? RATH: DEITY YOU SHOULD WORSHIP. UNLESS THIS PLANET IS ALSO IN TRINES TO NAVAMSA LAGNA IT MAY NOT BE A NATURAL INCLINATION. IF IT IS IN TRINES TO VIMSAMSA, THEN IT SHALL BE STRONG BHAKTI. > Say if the 12th from karakamsa indicates Durga as the ishta devata > but naturally someone is exposed to Shri Vishnu worship by the > parents etc RATH: DURGA IS THE MAHAMAYI OR ONE WHO REMOVES THE ILLUSION OF RAHU AND TAKES YOU TO BHAGAVAN LIKE VAISHNO DEVI. THAT IS WHY RISHI MARKANDEYA TAUGHT THE FAMOUS VERSES WHICH IS RECITED BY THE DEVOUT EVERYDAY: YA DEVI SARVA BHUTESU VISHNU MAYETI SABDHITA NAMASTASYAI NAMASTASYAI NAMASTASYAI NAMO NAMAH ...... SARANAGATA DINARTHA PARITRANA PARAYANA SARVA SYARTA HARE DEVI NARAYANI NAMASTUTE " THERE IS A ONE-NESS ABOUT GOD IN HINDUISM. READ MY ARTICLES ON HINDUISM IN THE JYOTISH NEWS OR IN THEWEB. > Leaving aside a planet in the 12th from karakamsa, can a planet that > aspects by rasi drishti the atmakaraka in both rasi and navamsa > charts indicate a deity we are naturally drawn to? NINTH IS DHARMA DEVATA AND FIFTH IS THE BHAKTI..NATURAL ADORATION. SEE REMEDIAL MEASURES IN ASTROLOGY FO MORE DETAILS. > eg mercury aspects atmakaraka in rasi and navamsa, and is conjuct > with 9th lord in rasi and 12th lord in navamsa. Can this indicate > being drawn to Shri Vishnu? NEED TO SEE THE CHART. ID MERCURY THE DEVATA KARAKA? > Does mercurys association with the 9th lord in rasi and also 12th > lord in navamsa make the case stronger for his influence on worship > habits? NOT REALLY. 12TH LORD FROM KARAKAMSA IS A FINE READING. > love > Jaan BEST WISHES SANJAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Hare Krishna! Please accept my dundavats. I hope this finds you blissfully happy in devotional service. Thank you, Visti, for clarifying the process by which to ascertain the Ishta Devata, and for taking the time to calculate mine! I am extremely grateful! Please forgive my ignorance about spiritual matters. I thought that Lakshmi is the consort of Lord Vishnu, and Parvati the consort of Shiva (?) I don't mean to be offensive (you have shown me the need on my part to increase my study of the scriptures!:-) Your fallen servant, Bhaktin Kiersten khd - Visti Larsen varahamihira Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:50 PM Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Om Krishna Guru Narayana isn't a deity, its god in the most supreme form, thus encompassing all incarnations. Everyones Ishta Devata would thus be Narayana. Let me see if I can determine yours: Your Chara Atmakaraka is Rahu.. same here. 12th from Karakamsa shows the Ishta Devata. Rahu in Navamsa of Cancer, and 12th from it is Gemini and has Venus. Gemini's ruled by Krishna/Vishnu, the Sattwic incarnation of Vasudeva. Venus in this place indicates Goddes Parvati, Vishnu's female consort. So I believe your Ishta Devata is Goddes Parvathi. Best wishes, Visti - Kiersten varahamihira Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:54 PM [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Sri Guru andGauranga!I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and amwondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe my AKis Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the 12thfrom Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = Simha)Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for yourhelp!Your fallen servant,Bhaktin KierstenkhdJune 7, 19698:52pm EDTNew Britain, CT USA41N40, 72W47(zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna)OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Om Krishna Guru Sorry your perfectly right, Parvathi is the consort of Shiva, and Lakshmi of Vishnu, that was my blunder, however I always mix them up *laughs*. That would otherwise be a great offense towards my Ishta Devata who is Vishnu/Krishna, but he would take it very lightly, and forgive the way i should learn to =). You may take a look at my chart if you like: 21st Nov. 1981, 6:21 AM, Nairobi, Kenya. D-20 also supports the fact that my favorite deity is Vishnu. Best wishes, Visti. > " Kiersten " <khd >varahamihira ><varahamihira > >Re: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata >Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:30:57 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [208.50.144.81] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC2A3DD3007CD82197A3D0329051487836; Sat Jan 13 16:29:35 2001 >Received: from [10.1.4.56] by mv. with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2001 >00:30:07 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-6_3_1_3); 14 Jan 2001 00:30:03 -0000 >Received: (qmail 16297 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2001 00:30:02 -0000 >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10. with QMQP; 14 Jan >2001 00:30:02 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mail.rdc1.ct.home.com) (24.2.0.67) by mta2 >with SMTP; 14 Jan 2001 00:30:02 -0000 >Received: from c25222a ([24.23.10.116]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail >vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id ><20010114003002.CCK3705.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@c25222a> for ><varahamihira >; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:30:02 -0800 >From sentto-1303387-2952-979432204-vlarsen Sat Jan 13 16:31:14 2001 >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-1303387-2952-979432204-vlarsen=hotmail.com (AT) returns (DOT) >X-Sender: khd >X-Apparently-varahamihira >Message-ID: <009201c07dc1$43876240$740a1718@c25222a> >References: <200101132056.OAA29296 ><000501c07dab$6768e0a0$740a1718@c25222a> ><OE64e0PaLI9mK6PYzDa00007683 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 >Mailing-List: list varahamihira ; contact >varahamihira-owner >Delivered-mailing list varahamihira >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <varahamihira-> > >Hare Krishna! Please accept my dundavats. > >I hope this finds you blissfully happy in devotional service. > >Thank you, Visti, for clarifying the process by which to ascertain the >Ishta Devata, and for taking the time to calculate mine! I am extremely >grateful! Please forgive my ignorance about spiritual matters. I thought >that Lakshmi is the consort of Lord Vishnu, and Parvati the consort of >Shiva (?) I don't mean to be offensive (you have shown me the need on my >part to increase my study of the scriptures!:-) > >Your fallen servant, > >Bhaktin Kiersten >khd > >- > Visti Larsen > varahamihira > Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:50 PM > Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata > > > Om Krishna Guru > > Narayana isn't a deity, its god in the most supreme form, thus >encompassing all incarnations. Everyones Ishta Devata would thus be >Narayana. > > Let me see if I can determine yours: > > Your Chara Atmakaraka is Rahu.. same here. > 12th from Karakamsa shows the Ishta Devata. Rahu in Navamsa of Cancer, >and 12th from it is Gemini and has Venus. Gemini's ruled by Krishna/Vishnu, >the Sattwic incarnation of Vasudeva. Venus in this place indicates Goddes >Parvati, Vishnu's female consort. > > So I believe your Ishta Devata is Goddes Parvathi. > > Best wishes, Visti > > > - > Kiersten > varahamihira > Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:54 PM > [sri Guru] Ishta Devata > > > Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Sri Guru >and > Gauranga! > > I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and am > wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe >my AK > is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the >12th > from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = >Simha) > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for >your > help! > > Your fallen servant, > > Bhaktin Kiersten > khd > June 7, 1969 > 8:52pm EDT > New Britain, CT USA > 41N40, 72W47 > (zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna) > > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > eGroups Sponsor > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 HARE KRISNA HARE KRISNA... KRISNA KRISNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA... RAMA RAMA HARE HARE Dear Kiersten, Rahu is your atmakaraka and hence karakamsa is in Cancer. 12th from Cancer has Venus and is not aspected by any other planets. Venus show, your istadevata would be Laxmi. One more addition, Rahu as Atmakaraka would make one very sopiritual but he/she may get setbacks in material life. Others may add Pranaam Sarajit >I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and am >wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe my AK >is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the 12th >from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = Simha) > >Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your >help! > >Your fallen servant, > >Bhaktin Kiersten >khd >June 7, 1969 >8:52pm EDT >New Britain, CT USA >41N40, 72W47 >(zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna) > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Contact Me at ------------- Room #311, Men's Hostel P.O. Box #222 XLRI; CH Area (East) Jamshedpur 831 001 Ph: 0674-225506 Extn:253 Alternate email: sarajit_poddar; cyberwiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Hello All! I think there is some confusion... Parvati is infact the consort of Shiva and Laxmi is the consort of Vishnu. Visti, I think you have written the opposite, by mistake... check it up. Regards Sarajit At 07:30 PM 1/13/01 -0500, you wrote: > Hare Krishna! Please accept my dundavats. extremely >grateful! Please forgive my ignorance about spiritual matters. I thought >that Lakshmi is the consort of Lord Vishnu, and Parvati the consort of >Shiva (?) I don't mean to be offensive (you have shown me the need on my >part to increase my study of the scriptures!:-) Your fallen servant, >Bhaktin Kiersten khd - >Visti Larsen varahamihira Saturday, January >13, 2001 6:50 PM Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata > Om Krishna Guru Narayana isn't a deity, its god in the most >supreme form, thus encompassing all incarnations. Everyones Ishta Devata >would thus be Narayana. I can determine yours: Your Chara >Atmakaraka is Rahu.. same here. Goddes Parvati, Vishnu's female >consort. I believe your Ishta Devata is Goddes Parvathi. Best >wishes, Visti - >Kiersten varahamihira Saturday, January 13, >2001 10:54 PM [sri Guru] Ishta Devata >Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Sri Guru and >Gauranga! > >I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and am >wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe >my AK >is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the 12th >from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = Simha) > >Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for >your >help! > >Your fallen servant, > >Bhaktin Kiersten >khd >June 7, 1969 >8:52pm EDT >New Britain, CT USA >41N40, 72W47 >(zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna) > > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > eGroups Sponsor > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > Contact Me at ------------- Room #311, Men's Hostel P.O. Box #222 XLRI; CH Area (East) Jamshedpur 831 001 Ph: 0674-225506 Extn:253 Alternate email: sarajit_poddar; cyberwiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Haribol! I am terribly sorry for the confusion which was generated as the result of my statement that my atmakaraka is Surya (I mistakenly thought that the atmakaraka is the graha with the highest degree). I do not yet know how to calculate the Char Atmakaraka. Please forgive my mistake! Your servant, Kiersten - Visti Larsen varahamihira Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:30 PM Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Om Krishna Guru Dear Sanjay, Namaste. Your reference is noted. However i hope you aren't stating the Kiersten has Saturn in 12th from Atmakaraka? Best wishes, Visti. - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Monday, January 15, 2001 3:45 AM Re: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Om Hrim Hamsa Soham SwahaDear Kiersten, According to Parasara, the deity associated with Saturn is Brahma, butthe worship of Brahma is prohibited as this leads to rebirth and the veryessence of Spirituality is lost. This is where the Jaimini Sutra helps us.Maharishi teaches "Budhasani-bhyam Vishnu" giving the wisdom that when theproblem of saturn in the 12th from Karakamsa etc, places is seen, recommendthe worship of Vishnu. So, the way out is to worship Vishnu with the MantraOM NAMO NARAYANAYA. I have seen the answers of Visti and sarajit. They may kindly note this.With Best WishesSanjay Rath-"Kiersten" <khd<varahamihira >Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:54 PM[sri Guru] Ishta Devata> Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Sri Guru and> Gauranga!>> I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and am> wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe myAK> is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the 12th> from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = Simha)>> Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance foryour> help!>> Your fallen servant,>> Bhaktin Kiersten> khd June 7, 1969> 8:52pm EDT> New Britain, CT USA> 41N40, 72W47> (zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna)>>> OM TAT SAT> Archive: varahamihira> Info: varahamihira/info.html>>>OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 OM namah shivaya Dear Gurus and fellow students, Kiersten wrote: <snipped> > Haribol! > > I am terribly sorry for the confusion which was generated as the result of my statement that my atmakaraka is Surya (I mistakenly thought that the atmakaraka is the graha with the highest degree). I do not yet know how to calculate the Char Atmakaraka. Please forgive my mistake! Find out the amount traversed by all the grahas _within_ its current sign. You can use the 7 planet or 8 planet scheme by excluding Ketu, or Rahu and Ketu respectively. Since Rahu is always retrograde, subtract its amount from 30. The planet with has traversed the highest number of degrees become the AK. (You may wish to read the lesson on Karakas in the files section on ). Gurudeva recommends the 8-planet scheme. For a long time, I have been wondering why the graha that has traversed more degrees is stronger. Why not the graha that has traversed the least, or the graha that is closest to the center of the house? Would gurudeva please answer this simple question! ajit -- Ajit Krishnan ajit@(julian|csd|engga).uwo.ca http://publish.uwo.ca/~akrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Namaste - One note worth mentioning... when Visti suggests "we must count backwards" for Rahu ( and Ketu).... it means that we take Rahu's longitude degree and subtract it from 30 degrees. So , if Rahu is just entering a sign due to it's retrograde motion it enters a sign at 29 degrees ( and some inutes and seconds , which we will not bother with for this example). So now calculating the various charakarakas ( Jamini as does Mararishi Parashara recommend the 8 Graha scheme which includes Rahu, as we are taught by Sanjay) we take 30degrees and subtract 29 degrees for Rahu...giving you one degree. Assuming this is the LOWEST degree observed/calculated for all 8 Graha's then RAHU would be Darakaraka. in the charakaraka system. Pls. review/refer to Upadesa Sutras from Sanjay, pp 6-10 for add'l info. Hope this assists you one the first day of Suryanarayana entering Makara, the 10th house of the Naisargika zodiac. Visti Larsen [vlarsen]Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:40 PMvarahamihira Subject: Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Om Krishna Guru There is the Naisargika(Natural) Atmakaraka: Sun And there is the Chara(Temporal) Atmakaraka, which is the graha with the highest degree. Your Sun may have the highest degree, however in case of rahu we must count backwards, thus Rahu becomes Chara Atmakaraka. Otherwise you were right.. no need to be sorry, we learn best through mistakes. Its a saturn thing. Best wishes, Visti. - Kiersten varahamihira Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:34 PM Re: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Haribol! I am terribly sorry for the confusion which was generated as the result of my statement that my atmakaraka is Surya (I mistakenly thought that the atmakaraka is the graha with the highest degree). I do not yet know how to calculate the Char Atmakaraka. Please forgive my mistake! Your servant, Kiersten - Visti Larsen varahamihira Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:30 PM Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Om Krishna Guru Dear Sanjay, Namaste. Your reference is noted. However i hope you aren't stating the Kiersten has Saturn in 12th from Atmakaraka? Best wishes, Visti. - Sanjay Rath varahamihira Monday, January 15, 2001 3:45 AM Re: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata Om Hrim Hamsa Soham SwahaDear Kiersten, According to Parasara, the deity associated with Saturn is Brahma, butthe worship of Brahma is prohibited as this leads to rebirth and the veryessence of Spirituality is lost. This is where the Jaimini Sutra helps us.Maharishi teaches "Budhasani-bhyam Vishnu" giving the wisdom that when theproblem of saturn in the 12th from Karakamsa etc, places is seen, recommendthe worship of Vishnu. So, the way out is to worship Vishnu with the MantraOM NAMO NARAYANAYA. I have seen the answers of Visti and sarajit. They may kindly note this.With Best WishesSanjay Rath-"Kiersten" <khd<varahamihira >Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:54 PM[sri Guru] Ishta Devata> Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Sri Guru and> Gauranga!>> I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and am> wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe myAK> is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the 12th> from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = Simha)>> Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance foryour> help!>> Your fallen servant,>> Bhaktin Kiersten> khd June 7, 1969> 8:52pm EDT> New Britain, CT USA> 41N40, 72W47> (zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna)>>> OM TAT SAT> Archive: varahamihira> Info: varahamihira/info.html>>>OM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.htmlOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraInfo: varahamihira/info.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 Om Hrim Hamsa Soham Swaha Dear Kiersten, According to Parasara, the deity associated with Saturn is Brahma, but the worship of Brahma is prohibited as this leads to rebirth and the very essence of Spirituality is lost. This is where the Jaimini Sutra helps us. Maharishi teaches " Budhasani-bhyam Vishnu " giving the wisdom that when the problem of saturn in the 12th from Karakamsa etc, places is seen, recommend the worship of Vishnu. So, the way out is to worship Vishnu with the Mantra OM NAMO NARAYANAYA. I have seen the answers of Visti and sarajit. They may kindly note this. With Best Wishes Sanjay Rath - " Kiersten " <khd <varahamihira > Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:54 PM [sri Guru] Ishta Devata > Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Sri Guru and > Gauranga! > > I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, and am > wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I believe my AK > is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed in the 12th > from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart (Karakamsa = Simha) > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your > help! > > Your fallen servant, > > Bhaktin Kiersten > khd > June 7, 1969 > 8:52pm EDT > New Britain, CT USA > 41N40, 72W47 > (zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna) > > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 OM namah shivaya Dear Sarajit, Gurus and fellow students, Sarajit Poddar wrote: <snipped> > AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH > Dear Gurudev! > > One question cropped in my mind. When we are calculating the longitude for > calculation of charakaraka, we take into account Rahu's retrograde motion > and substract the longitude from 30deg. Why don't we then subtract from 30 > deg, the longitude of any other planets when they are retrograde... I was thinking about this earlier, and came to be following concusion. Rahu is the only planet who is always retrograde. Even though other planets may be temporarily retrograde, eventually they will resume normal motion. When we take the longitudes for calculating these karakas, we are essentially calculating how much of the sign has been traversed by a given planet. If a planet enters a house with normal motion, traverses one degree of the sign, and then becomes retrograde, we cannot say that he has traversed 29 degrees. This would not make sense. So, the amount of degrees traversed by the planet has to be calculated with respect to its natural motion and not its temporary motion. As a result, the retrograde exception only applies to Rahu. Please correct me if I am wrong. your sishya, ajit -- Ajit Krishnan ajit@(julian|csd|engga).uwo.ca http://publish.uwo.ca/~akrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2001 Report Share Posted January 15, 2001 AUM SRI GURUVE NAMAH Dear Gurudev! One question cropped in my mind. When we are calculating the longitude for calculation of charakaraka, we take into account Rahu's retrograde motion and substract the longitude from 30deg. Why don't we then subtract from 30 deg, the longitude of any other planets when they are retrograde... Pranaam Sarajit At 06:20 PM 1/14/01 -0800, you wrote: > Namaste - One note worth mentioning... when Visti suggests " we must >count backwards " for Rahu ( and Ketu).... it means that we take Rahu's >longitude degree and subtract it from 30 degrees. So , if Rahu is just >entering a sign due to it's retrograde seconds , which we will not bother >with for this example). So now calculating the various charakarakas ( >Jamini as does Mararishi Parashara recommend the 8 Graha scheme which >includes Rahu, as we are taught by Sanjay) we take 30degrees and subtract >29 degrees for Rahu...giving you one degree. Assuming this is the LOWEST >degree observed/calculated for all 8 Graha's then RAHU would be >Darakaraka. in the charakaraka system. Pls. review/refer to Upadesa Sutras >from Sanjay, pp 6-10 for add'l info. Hope this assists you one the >first day of Suryanarayana entering Makara, the 10th house of the >Naisargika zodiac. >> >>Visti Larsen [vlarsen] >>Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:40 PM >>varahamihira >>Sv: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata >> >> Om Krishna Guru There is the Naisargika(Natural) Atmakaraka: Sun >> rahu we must count backwards, thus Rahu becomes Chara Atmakaraka. >> Otherwise you were right.. no need to be sorry, we learn best through >> mistakes. Its a saturn thing. Best wishes, Visti. ----- >>Original Message ----- Kiersten To: >>varahamihira Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:34 >>PM Re: [sri Guru] Ishta Devata >> Haribol! I am terribly sorry for the confusion which was >> generated as the result of my statement that my atmakaraka is Surya (I >> mistakenly thought that the atmakaraka is the graha with the highest >> degree). I do not yet know how to calculate the Char Atmakaraka. >>Please forgive my mistake! Your servant, >>Kiersten - >>Visti Larsen varahamihira Sent: >>Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:30 PM Sv: [sri Guru] >>Ishta Devata >> Om Krishna Guru Dear Sanjay, Namaste. Your >>reference is noted. However i hope you aren't stating the Kiersten >>has Saturn in 12th from Atmakaraka? Best wishes, >>Visti. - >> Sanjay Rath varahamihira >> Monday, January 15, 2001 3:45 AM Re: >>[sri Guru] Ishta Devata >>Om Hrim Hamsa Soham Swaha >>Dear Kiersten, >> According to Parasara, the deity associated with Saturn is >>Brahma, but >>the worship of Brahma is prohibited as this leads to rebirth and >>the very >>essence of Spirituality is lost. This is where the Jaimini Sutra >>helps us. >>Maharishi teaches " Budhasani-bhyam Vishnu " giving the wisdom that >> when the >>problem of saturn in the 12th from Karakamsa etc, places is >>seen, recommend >>the worship of Vishnu. So, the way out is to worship Vishnu with >>the Mantra >>OM NAMO NARAYANAYA. >> >> I have seen the answers of Visti and sarajit. They may >>kindly note this. >>With Best Wishes >>Sanjay Rath >>----- Original Message ----- >><> >><> >>Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:54 PM >>[sri Guru] Ishta Devata >> >> >>> Haribol! Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to >>Sri Guru and >>> Gauranga! >>> >>> I have been reading about how to calculate one's Ishta Devata, >>and am >>> wondering if someone could verify that my Ishta is Narayana. I >>believe my >>AK >>> is Surya, which is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Sani is placed >>in the 12th >>> from Surya in the sign of Kataka in my Navamsa chart >>(Karakamsa = Simha) >>> >>> Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in >>advance for >>your >>> help! >>> >>> Your fallen servant, >>> >>> Bhaktin Kiersten >>> khd >>> June 7, 1969 >>> 8:52pm EDT >>> New Britain, CT USA >>> 41N40, 72W47 >>> (zero degrees 57 min. Dhanus lagna) >>> >>> >>> OM TAT SAT >>> Archive: varahamihira >>> Info: varahamihira/info.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>OM TAT SAT >>Archive: varahamihira >>Info: varahamihira/info.html >> >> > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > >OM TAT SAT >Archive: varahamihira >Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > > eGroups Sponsor > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > Contact Me at ------------- Room #311, Men's Hostel P.O. Box #222 XLRI; CH Area (East) Jamshedpur 831 001 Ph: 0674-225506 Extn:253 Alternate email: sarajit_poddar; cyberwiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ashish, Namaste Jaimini Upadesa Sutras 1.2.75 कà¥à¤œà¥‡à¤¨ सà¥à¤•à¤¨à¥à¤¦à¥‡ kujena skande Meaning: Mars in the 12th house shows devotion towards skanda. AK itself conjoins 2 other planets (despite the exchange with Venus). Love, Swee On Behalf Of ashish25mathur Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:09 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta Devata Dear Learned Members, Please tell me who is my ishta devata from my chart, I know it is taken from the 12th house to Karkamsa ( sign occupied by Atmakaraka in Navamsa ) In my navamsa the 12th house is empty and its lord is Atmakaraka itself. Now this 12th sign is also aspected by the following planets 1. Moon By graha drishti 2. Jupiter by Rasi drishti 3. Venus by Rasi drishti 4. Rahu by Graha drishti. So the possble candidates are Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Rahu. I guess we should find out the strenghts of these planets to determine the ishta devata. Jupiter and Venus are possibly stronger due to both being vargotama. But which one is stronger in them, Venus gets strenght due to it being lagna lord and exchange with mars .Jupiter is also said to be strong in Aquarius. Can the Atmakaraka also be the ishtadevata ? I cannot interpre much further than that due to limited knowledge so seek your help. Regards, Ashish Rashi Chart : Mars is the Atmakaraka ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU 08:51 * * * * * VE 13:27* * 6 * * * RA 16:49 ME 25:15 * * * * 9 * MA 25:25 * 5 * * * * AS 29:05 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7 * * * ** * * ** * 10 * 4 * ** * * ** * * * 1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *JU 15:14 11* * 3 SAR24:51* * * * * * * * * 12 * * 2 * * * * MO 13:01 * * KE 16:49 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Navamsa Chart ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4 * * MA * * * * * *ME * * * 5 * AS SAR 1 * * * * KE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3 * * * ** * * ** * SU 6 * 12 * ** * * ** * * * 9 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * JU * * MO 7 * RA * 11 * * * * * * * * * 8 * * 10 * * * * VE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Dear Swee, Namaste and thank you for lifting the cloud so basically Mars should represent the ishta devta in my chart. Can you tell me if Hanuman who also represents Mars can be ishta devata in this case. As i have been regularly worshipping hanumanji for past sometime .also the first time I started worshipping any god just on base of my intution was Hanumanji only... Regards, AshishSwee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Ashish,NamasteJaimini Upadesa Sutras 1.2.75कà¥à¤œà¥‡à¤¨ सà¥à¤•à¤¨à¥à¤¦à¥‡kujena skandeMeaning: Mars in the 12th house shows devotion towards skanda. AK itself conjoins 2 other planets (despite the exchange with Venus).Love,Swee On Behalf Of ashish25mathurWednesday, October 12, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta DevataDear Learned Members,Please tell me who is my ishta devata from my chart, I know it is taken from the 12th house to Karkamsa ( sign occupied by Atmakaraka in Navamsa )In my navamsa the 12th house is empty and its lord is Atmakaraka itself.Now this 12th sign is also aspected by the following planets1. Moon By graha drishti2. Jupiter by Rasi drishti3. Venus by Rasi drishti4. Rahu by Graha drishti.So the possble candidates are Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Rahu.I guess we should find out the strenghts of these planets to determine the ishta devata.Jupiter and Venus are possibly stronger due to both being vargotama. But which one is stronger in them, Venus gets strenght due to it being lagna lord and exchange with mars .Jupiter is also said to be strong in Aquarius.Can the Atmakaraka also be the ishtadevata ?I cannot interpre much further than that due to limited knowledge so seek your help.Regards,AshishRashi Chart : Mars is the Atmakaraka******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU 08:51 * * * * * VE 13:27* * 6 * * * RA 16:49 ME 25:15 * * * * 9 * MA 25:25 * 5 * * * * AS 29:05 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7 * * * ** * * ** * 10 * 4 * ** * * ** * * * 1 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *JU 15:14 11* * 3 SAR24:51* * * * * * * * * 12 * * 2 * * * * MO 13:01 * * KE 16:49 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Navamsa Chart******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4 * * MA * * * * * *ME * * * 5 * AS SAR 1 * * * * KE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3 * * * ** * * ** * SU 6 * 12 * ** * * ** * * * 9 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * JU * * MO 7 * RA * 11 * * * * * * * * * 8 * * 10 * * * * VE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ashish, Namaste Hanuman is the son of Saturn. Good choice. He is said to remove afflictions from pisachas. BTW, Venus and Mars are in parivatana in rasi and navamsa. It can also indicate the higher essence of Lakshmi Narasimha. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ashish Mathur Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:46 PM RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta Devata Dear Swee, Namaste and thank you for lifting the cloud so basically Mars should represent the ishta devta in my chart. Can you tell me if Hanuman who also represents Mars can be ishta devata in this case. As i have been regularly worshipping hanumanji for past sometime .also the first time I started worshipping any god just on base of my intution was Hanumanji only... Regards, Ashish Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ashish, Namaste Jaimini Upadesa Sutras 1.2.75 à ¤•à ¥Âà ¤œà ¥‡à ¤¨ à ¤¸à ¥Âà ¤•à ¤¨à ¥Âà ¤¦à ¥‡ kujena skande Meaning: Mars in the 12th house shows devotion towards skanda. AK itself conjoins 2 other planets (despite the exchange with Venus). Love, Swee On Behalf Of ashish25mathur Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:09 PM [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta Devata Dear Learned Members, Please tell me who is my ishta devata from my chart, I know it is taken from the 12th house to Karkamsa ( sign occupied by Atmakaraka in Navamsa ) In my navamsa the 12th house is empty and its lord is Atmakaraka itself. Now this 12th sign is also ! aspected by the following planets 1. Moon By graha drishti 2. Jupiter by Rasi drishti 3. Venus by Rasi drishti 4. Rahu by Graha drishti. So the possble candidates are Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Rahu. I guess we should find out the strenghts of these planets to determine the ishta devata. Jupiter and Venus are possibly stronger due to both being vargotama. But which one is stronger in them, Venus gets strenght due to it being lagna lord and exchange with mars .Jupiter is also said to be strong in Aquarius. Can the Atmakaraka also be the ishtadevata ? I cannot interpre much further than that due to limited knowledge so seek your help. Regards, Ashish Rashi Chart : Mars is the Atmakaraka ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU 08:51 * * * & nb! sp; * * VE 13:27* * 6 * * * RA 16:49 ME 25:15 * * * * 9 * MA 25:25 * 5 * * * * AS 29:05 * * & nb! sp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7 * * * ** * * ** * 10 * 4 * ** * * ** * * * 1 * * * * * * * * * * * & nb! sp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *JU 15:14 11* * 3 SAR24:51* * * * * * * * * 12 * * 2 * * * * MO 13:01 * * KE 16:49 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Navamsa Chart ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4 * * MA * * * * * *ME * * * 5 * AS SAR 1 * * * * KE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3 * * * ** * * ** * SU 6 * 12 * ** * * ** * * * 9 * * * * * & ! nbsp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * & nb! sp; * * JU * * MO 7 * RA * 11 * * * * * * * * * 8 * * 10 * * * * VE & nb! sp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Dear Swee I am back. Feeling weak as i had skin allergy yesterday and was on medicines. I could not come to office, will check mails one by one Best wishes partha On 10/13/05, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ashish, Namaste Hanuman is the son of Saturn. Good choice. He is said to remove afflictions from pisachas. BTW, Venus and Mars are in parivatana in rasi and navamsa. It can also indicate the higher essence of Lakshmi Narasimha. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Ashish MathurWednesday, October 12, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta Devata Dear Swee, Namaste and thank you for lifting the cloud so basically Mars should represent the ishta devta in my chart. Can you tell me if Hanuman who also represents Mars can be ishta devata in this case. As i have been regularly worshipping hanumanji for past sometime .also the first time I started worshipping any god just on base of my intution was Hanumanji only... Regards, AshishSwee Chan < swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Ashish,NamasteJaimini Upadesa Sutras 1.2.75 à ¤•à ¥Âà ¤œà ¥‡à ¤¨ à ¤¸à ¥Âà ¤•à ¤¨à ¥Âà ¤¦à ¥‡ kujena skandeMeaning: Mars in the 12th house shows devotion towards skanda. AK itself conjoins 2 other planets (despite the exchange with Venus).Love,Swee On Behalf Of ashish25mathur Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta DevataDear Learned Members, Please tell me who is my ishta devata from my chart, I know it is taken from the 12th house to Karkamsa ( sign occupied by Atmakaraka in Navamsa )In my navamsa the 12th house is empty and its lord is Atmakaraka itself.Now this 12th sign is also ! aspected by the following planets 1. Moon By graha drishti2. Jupiter by Rasi drishti3. Venus by Rasi drishti 4. Rahu by Graha drishti.So the possble candidates are Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Rahu. I guess we should find out the strenghts of these planets to determine the ishta devata.Jupiter and Venus are possibly stronger due to both being vargotama. But which one is stronger in them, Venus gets strenght due to it being lagna lord and exchange with mars .Jupiter is also said to be strong in Aquarius.Can the Atmakaraka also be the ishtadevata ?I cannot interpre much further than that due to limited knowledge so seek your help.Regards,AshishRashi Chart : Mars is the Atmakaraka ******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SU 08:51 * * * & nb! sp; * * VE 13:27* * 6 * * * RA 16:49 ME 25:15 * * * * 9 * MA 25:25 * 5 * * * * AS 29:05 * * & nb! sp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 7 * * * ** * * ** * 10 * 4 * ** * * ** * * * 1 * * * * * * * * * * * & nb! sp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *JU 15:14 11* * 3 SAR24:51* * * * * * * * * 12 * * 2 * * * * MO 13:01 * * KE 16:49 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Navamsa Chart******************************************************* ** * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4 * * MA * * * * * *ME * * * 5 * AS SAR 1 * * * * KE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3 * * * ** * * ** * SU 6 * 12 * ** * * ** * * * 9 * * * * * & ! nbsp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * & nb! sp; * * JU * * MO 7 * RA * 11 * * * * * * * * * 8 * * 10 * * * * VE & nb! sp; * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * ** ******************************************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Swee, Namaskar, I have read Hanuman is son of Vayu, and an incarnation of Shiva. The connection I have read with Saturn is that Hanuman is the only one who can control any ill effects of Saturn. Please educate us if my perceptions are incorrect. Best Regards, Ashish , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Ashish, > > Namaste > > > > Hanuman is the son of Saturn. Good choice. He is said to remove afflictions from pisachas. > > BTW, Venus and Mars are in parivatana in rasi and navamsa. It can also indicate the higher essence of Lakshmi Narasimha. > > > > Love, > > Swee > > > > _____ > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of Ashish Mathur > Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:46 PM > > RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta Devata > > > > Dear Swee, > > > > Namaste and thank you for lifting the cloud so basically Mars should represent the ishta devta in my chart. > > > > Can you tell me if Hanuman who also represents Mars can be ishta devata in this case. > > > > As i have been regularly worshipping hanumanji for past sometime .also the first time I started worshipping any god just on base of my intution was Hanumanji only... > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashish > > Swee Chan <swee@c...> wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Ashish, > Namaste > > Jaimini Upadesa Sutras 1.2.75 > > à ¤•à ¥Âà ¤Š" à ¥‡à ¤¨ à ¤¸à ¥Âà ¤• à ¤¨à ¥Âà ¤¦à ¥‡ > kujena skande > > Meaning: Mars in the 12th house shows devotion towards skanda. > > AK itself conjoins 2 other planets (despite the exchange with Venus). > > Love, > > Swee > > > > [sJC- Africa ] On Behalf Of ashish25mathur > Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:09 PM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Ishta Devata > > > Dear Learned Members, > > Please tell me who is my ishta devata from my chart, I know it is > taken from the 12th house to Karkamsa ( sign occupied by Atmakaraka > in Navamsa ) > In my navamsa the 12th house is empty and its lord is Atmakaraka > itself. > Now this 12th sign is also ! aspected by the following planets > 1. Moon By graha drishti > 2. Jupiter by Rasi drishti > 3. Venus by Rasi drishti > 4. Rahu by Graha drishti. > > So the possble candidates are Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Moon and Rahu. > > I guess we should find out the strenghts of these planets to > determine the ishta devata. > > Jupiter and Venus are possibly stronger due to both being vargotama. > But which one is stronger in them, Venus gets strenght due to it > being lagna lord and exchange with mars .Jupiter is also said to be > strong in Aquarius. > > Can the Atmakaraka also be the ishtadevata ? > > I cannot interpre much further than that due to limited knowledge so > seek your help. > > Regards, > Ashish > > Rashi Chart : Mars is the Atmakaraka > ******************************************************* > ** * * ** > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * SU 08:51 * * * & nb! sp; * > * VE 13:27* * 6 * * > * RA 16:49 ME 25:15 * * * > * 9 * MA 25:25 * 5 * > * * * AS 29:05 * * & nb! sp; * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * 7 * * * > ** * * ** > * 10 * 4 * > ** * * ** > * * * 1 * * * > * * * * * * > * * & nb! sp; * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > *JU 15:14 11* * 3 SAR24:51* > * * * * * * > * * 12 * * 2 * * > * * MO 13:01 * * KE 16:49 * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > ** * * ** > ******************************************************* > > Navamsa Chart > ******************************************************* > ** * * ** > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * 4 * * MA * * > * * * *ME * * > * 5 * AS SAR 1 * > * * * KE * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * 3 * * * > ** * * ** > * SU 6 * 12 * > ** * * ** > * * * 9 * * * > * * & ! nbsp; * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * & nb! sp; * * JU * > * MO 7 * RA * 11 * > * * * * * * > * * 8 * * 10 * * > * * VE & nb! sp; * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > ** * * ** > ******************************************************* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 , " ashish25mathur " <ashish25mathur> wrote: > > > I have read Hanuman is son of Vayu, and an incarnation of Shiva. Since he's Rama's devotee, Vaishnavs claim that he's an incarnation of Vishnu. Of course, since Bhima discovered that from one hair of his tail sprang a million lingas, there's also this claim that he's a Shiva incarnate. He's called Hanuman because of this anuman Take it easy, Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Sri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Ashish, He is actually supposed to be a form of Rudra. Hence the mantra for him is Om Ham Rudraya Hanumate Namah. He is a son of Vayu, that is why his name is Pavanaputra. The D-11 or the Rudramsha chart is seen for one's dangers and troubles. The chart corresponds with the Ekadasa Rudras. We do pray to Hanuman or Mrtyunjaya to remove the dangers from our lives. Hanuman is also associated with Mars, and if worshipped, removes many negative qualities of Mars. He is also the epitome of celibacy. Mars is the secondary karaka for the 6th house, the house of celibacy. Best regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of ramapriya_dFriday, October 14, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Ishta Devata , "ashish25mathur" <ashish25mathur> wrote:>> > I have read Hanuman is son of Vayu, and an incarnation of Shiva.Since he's Rama's devotee, Vaishnavs claim that he's an incarnation of Vishnu. Of course, since Bhima discovered that from one hair of his tail sprang a million lingas, there's also this claim that he's a Shiva incarnate. He's called Hanuman because of this anuman ;)Take it easy,Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 , " Sarbani Sarkar " <sarbani@s...> wrote: > He is also the epitome of celibacy. Mars is the secondary karaka for > the 6th house, the house of celibacy. Celibacy yes, yet legend has it that he fathered matsyanjaneya (unbeknown) to him when a fish lapped up... well, you know that story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sarabani, Many worship Hanumanji during Saturn dasa or sade sati because of varadan he has from Sani god! Thanks & Regards, Ramesh On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarSaturday, October 15, 2005 2:50 AM Subject: RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Ishta Devata Sri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Ashish, He is actually supposed to be a form of Rudra. Hence the mantra for him is Om Ham Rudraya Hanumate Namah. He is a son of Vayu, that is why his name is Pavanaputra. The D-11 or the Rudramsha chart is seen for one's dangers and troubles. The chart corresponds with the Ekadasa Rudras. We do pray to Hanuman or Mrtyunjaya to remove the dangers from our lives. Hanuman is also associated with Mars, and if worshipped, removes many negative qualities of Mars. He is also the epitome of celibacy. Mars is the secondary karaka for the 6th house, the house of celibacy. Best regards, Sarbani On Behalf Of ramapriya_dFriday, October 14, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Ishta Devata , "ashish25mathur" <ashish25mathur> wrote:>> > I have read Hanuman is son of Vayu, and an incarnation of Shiva.Since he's Rama's devotee, Vaishnavs claim that he's an incarnation of Vishnu. Of course, since Bhima discovered that from one hair of his tail sprang a million lingas, there's also this claim that he's a Shiva incarnate. He's called Hanuman because of this anuman ;)Take it easy,Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Dear Members, Thanks for your messages, Regards, Ashish , " Ramesh Gangaramani " <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Sarabani, > Many worship Hanumanji during Saturn dasa or sade sati because of varadan he > has from Sani god! > Thanks & Regards, > Ramesh > > > [sJC- Africa ]On > Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:50 AM > > RE: [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Ishta Devata > > > Sri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Ashish, > > He is actually supposed to be a form of Rudra. Hence the mantra for him is > Om Ham Rudraya Hanumate Namah. He is a son of Vayu, that is why his name is > Pavanaputra. The D-11 or the Rudramsha chart is seen for one's dangers and > troubles. The chart corresponds with the Ekadasa Rudras. We do pray to > Hanuman or Mrtyunjaya to remove the dangers from our lives. Hanuman is also > associated with Mars, and if worshipped, removes many negative qualities of > Mars. He is also the epitome of celibacy. Mars is the secondary karaka for > the 6th house, the house of celibacy. > > Best regards, > > Sarbani > > > > -- -------- > -- > [sJC- Africa ] On > Behalf Of ramapriya_d > Friday, October 14, 2005 10:08 PM > > [Jaya Jagannatha] Re: Ishta Devata > > > , " ashish25mathur " > <ashish25mathur> wrote: > > > > > > I have read Hanuman is son of Vayu, and an incarnation of Shiva. > > Since he's Rama's devotee, Vaishnavs claim that he's an incarnation of > Vishnu. Of course, since Bhima discovered that from one hair of his > tail sprang a million lingas, there's also this claim that he's a > Shiva incarnate. He's called Hanuman because of this anuman > > Take it easy, > > Ramapriya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Sanjay, When you say, Lack of understanding of Ishta; does that mean you don’t recognize Him or not worship Him? Since Ketu is the lord of Sc in Rashi by virtue of being with Jup, does he cease to be the lord of Sc in navamsa by being with the AK. I have this one more question, I have my AK(moon in Sg) and Amk (jup in Gem) vargottam. Sc, becomes the Ishta denoting rashi and also palana devatha denoting rashi. And both I thought were Ganesha. Now is there any rider that says both Ishta and palana cannot be the same? Thanks, Regards, Rema --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Namaste Rema, > > You can always worship Ganesha. Also worship the > Graha's aspecting > the 12th. In your case Sc being your Ishta indicates > your natural urge > by atma to understand the Occult. Natural drive of > Atma when it > starts giving(12th) to the world leads to better > understanding of Ishta. > > Take example of Mahatma Gandhi. His AK is in Pisces, > 12th from it is > Aquarius, The natural badhaka staana. For him > understanding of Hurdles > ,bondage and poverty (sat and rahu lord) was very > important, His > understanding of Ishta is getting matured when he > gave Freedom to poor > people irrespective of nationality. For him freedom > and poverty > understanding was more global (Vasudeva Kutumbha). > > The Atma or Surya takes 12 forms for creation hence > there are 12 > Aditya. Therefore we look at 12th from Ak to look at > those 12 > variations. The 12 is important, The 12th House lord > or Bhaavesh > (bhaava+ish) gives knowledge about the house. The > conjunction with AK > with Ishta directing Graha, Can cause troubles to > understand Ishta. > > Take example of Hitler, The Ishta devata lord Venus > was conjoined > Mars. He went thru Chara kaaraka replacement of Ak > between Mars and > Venus. Understanding Ishta devata was hence > difficult for him. The > fight between Ak and Ishta can lead to lack of > understanding of Ishta > is my point of caution. > > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > sohamsa , Rema Menon > <remamenon> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Namaste Sanjay, > > > > This mail of yours to Vishnu, has risen a doubt in > me. > > > > I always believed my Ishta was Ganesha, because, > in > > Rashi, Sc is 12Th from AK. Ketu is with Jup and > Mars > > alone, so Ketu becomes lord of Sc. > > > > I carried this to the D9. Did I do wrong? In D9, > Mars > > is alone and Ketu is with AK.(My AK is vargottam). > > > > > We discussed this in Lakshmi's house in 2002. It > was > > concluded then, that I had my Ishta with my AK. So > now > > I am a little confused. > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > Regards, Rema > > > > --- Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Namaste Vishnu, > > > > > > Ganesha is your Ishta Devata, I this is very > > > auspicious. > > > You Ak is Sun, 12th Sc in D9 has two lords MArs > > > being conjoined Ak cannot > > > take to Ishta. So it's Ketu the other lord > conjoined > > > Jupiter!. > > > So it is Gajavakra. > > > Lord Ganesha is lord of numbers so you will do > good > > > in Jyotish Studies or > > > find some important secret in Jyotish soon I > would > > > say. > > > > > > In the dream chart, Without aspect of Sun or > Moon on > > > Dream lagna the > > > possibity of dream having any revelation of > future > > > is not possible. The > > > luminaries show the truth in the dream, without > > > truth dream cannot have > > > possibility of indicating the future. > > > So, here instead of lagna, lets assume that Moon > in > > > 9th will have impact. As > > > the 9th the Ruling house for Dream. > > > > > > Vishnu_Ganapati_dream > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > October 20, 2005 > > > Time: 5:10:00 am > > > Sunrise: 7:21:00 am (October 19) > > > Sunset: 6:03:26 pm (October 19) > > > > > > the night duration is about is about 13h24m and > > > there is 2:11 more left for > > > sunrise. So in about 2 months (1.9month) > > > approximately this dreams results > > > should be visible. > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > Sanjay P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/26/05, Vishnu Jandhyala <jvishnu@g...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Namaste Naaraayan, > > > > Nice meeting you too at the conference. > Details > > > below > > > > > > > > Vishnu Birth Chart > > > > > > > > May 13, 1972 > > > > Time: 7:42:00 pm > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " > > > > Hyderabad, India > > > > > > > > Vishnu_Ganapati_dream_chart_3 > > > > > > > > October 20, 2005 > > > > Time: 5:10:00 am > > > > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > > > > Place: 89 W 24' 04 " , 43 N 04' 23 " > > > > Madison, Wisconsin, USA > > > > Altitude: 863.00 meters > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/26/05, naaraayana_iyer > > > <jaimini.upadesa@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > OM hriim namasivaya > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Vishnu, > > > > > > > > > > Could you please post your birth details. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Narayan > > > > > PS: It was nice meeting you at the Boston > > > Conference . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Vishnu > > > Jandhyala <jvishnu@g...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > > > Lakshmi garu, > === message truncated === FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. 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