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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that

you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for

me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

decision :)

 

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was

not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather than to ruin

someone's life.)

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21 wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at

the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is

not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

(presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my

temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and

left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste dear Swami,

>

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

Graha

> in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and

> that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

my

> mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

dasa

> somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

say

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear gemstone

> for it (either to increase or to decrease).

>

> So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

could

> reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> issue.

>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

pearl

> and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

far.

> Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not

> lording my trines.

>

> Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> , " swami " <swami@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

mention

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

as

> maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

would

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

the

> maheswar.

> > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are

> both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

Jup

> is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

knowledge.If

> worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is

> not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> > ------------------------

> > Swami_RCS

> > -----------------------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > --------------------------------

--

> -

> >

> > -

> > majastrbacastro

> >

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

hand,

> so

> > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th...

And

> > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> considered

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't

> think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> >

> > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

can

> not

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That

> means

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

lord

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

> thoughts...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > , RKM <rajeevmundra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > >

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> Royal

> > Yoga.

> > >

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your

> > career.

> > >

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > >

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th house.

> > >

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> working

> > the best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall

> luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > RKM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna <yasodakrsna@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one, Ruby

> by

> > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality

> gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet questions

> but

> > by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

> money

> > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

sapphire

> as

> > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

prediction

> to

> > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology ;

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied different

> books on

> > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > > >

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

well

> for

> > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

also

> my

> > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> astrologer

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

was

> > mentioned that

> > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> books

> > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> wear

> > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and Red

> Coral

> > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

that

> made

> > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

> gem

> > stone that

> > > > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

Diamond).

> I

> > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in my

> > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried if

> some

> > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

more

> > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

> chart

> > and bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is benefic

> for

> > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> that

> > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in step

3

> is

> > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear it

> in

> > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> some

> > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

> other

> > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> ---

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today

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Dear Maja,I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.My birth data is as follows:DOB: 21st September 1955TOB: 10:32 A.M.POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AMOm Gurave NamahDear Sunil,NamasteMy decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong decision :)Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin someone's life.)Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Sat , Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:>> Dear Maja,> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. However, things became quite clear later on especially with your comments on antardasha.> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my career or financial aspects.> Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to reply! I am not in a hurry.> Regards> Sunil> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste dear Swami,> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable Graha > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is my > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula dasa > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did say > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu could > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > issue. > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a pearl > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so far. > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > lording my trines.> > Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > --- In

, "swami" <swami@>wrote:> >> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah> > Hari Om,> > Dear Maja,> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your mention > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't think > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu as > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th would > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.> > The sign lord is SUN.> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun the > maheswar.> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal Jup > is Maheswar.> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish knowledge.If > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > with regards.> > OM TATSAT> >

------------------------> > Swami_RCS > > -----------------------> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."> > -> -> > > > - > > majastrbacastro > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left hand, > so > > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th... And > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > considered > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't > think > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I can > not > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > means > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th lord > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just > thoughts...> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a > Royal > > Yoga.> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > career.> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic > > debiliated in 12th> > > house)> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th house.> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > working > > the

best.> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > luck.> > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ> > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna<yasodakrsna@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,Ruby > by > > two.> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality > gemologist.> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internetquestions > but >

> by paid> > > > services.> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good> money > > by selling> > > > it.> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow sapphire > as > > it works.> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the prediction > to > > be true.> > > > Yasoda.> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>> > > > vedic astrology ; > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > It's been more than four years that I studieddifferent > books on > > gemstones> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the > > gemstone. But none> > > > of them gave very good result.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for> > choosing> > > > gemstone.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by manyastrologers)> > > >> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool> > >

>> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > >> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > >> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very well > for > > me. After> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and also > my > > income> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any > astrologer > > (though I> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it was > > mentioned that> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10 > books > > on gem> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to > wear > > this gemstone.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire andRed > Coral > > by> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire, that > made > > matters> > > > worse.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell> gem > > stone that> > > > worked for me.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > >> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > >> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of Diamond). > I > > worn this in> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working > positive> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional inmy > > personal / work> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.> > > >> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.> > > >> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra>

> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be triedif > some > > one wants> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know more > > about this.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.> > > >> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets > that > > were in 1,5,9> > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.> > > >> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal> chart > > and

bhava> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)> > > >> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 isbenefic > for > > your> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of > that > > planet and> > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > >> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found instep 3 > is > > malefic,> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wearit > in > > the left hand.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if > some > > one wants to> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

> other > > members, if> > > > this method works for you.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > ---> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> today

Links>---~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the humanstomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart readingtoday

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa  can be troublesome as its the

strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that

you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for

me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

decision :)

 

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was

not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin

someone's life.)

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at

the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is

not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

(presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my

temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and

left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste dear Swami,

>

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

Graha

> in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and

> that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

my

> mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

dasa

> somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

say

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone

> for it (either to increase or to decrease).

>

> So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

could

> reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> issue.

>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

pearl

> and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

far.

> Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not

> lording my trines.

>

> Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

mention

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

as

> maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

would

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

the

> maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are

> both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

Jup

> is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

knowledge.If

> worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is

> not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> >

> > -

> > majastrbacastro

> >

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

hand,

> so

> > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th...

And

> > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> considered

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't

> think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> >

> > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

can

> not

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That

> means

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

lord

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

> thoughts...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > >

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> Royal

> > Yoga.

> > >

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your

> > career.

> > >

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > >

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th house.

> > >

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> working

> > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall

> luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > RKM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby

> by

> > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality

> gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions

> but

>

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

 

> money

> > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

sapphire

> as

> > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

prediction

> to

> > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different

> books on

> > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

 

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

well

> for

> > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

also

> my

> > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> astrologer

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

was

> > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> books

> > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> wear

> > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red

> Coral

> > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

that

> made

> > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

 

> gem

> > stone that

> > > > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

Diamond).

> I

> > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my

> > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if

> some

> > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

more

> > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

 

> chart

> > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic

> for

> > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> that

> > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step

3

> is

> > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it

> in

> > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> some

> > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

 

> other

> > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today>

 

 

 

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

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Dear Rafal ji, NamaskarThank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments, not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this. Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it appropriate?As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can, and solicit your

advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea what I can do. RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the

strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave NamahDear Sunil,NamasteMy decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong decision :)Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin someone's life.)Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Sat, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Maja,> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. However, things became quite clear later on especially with your comments on antardasha.> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my career or financial aspects.> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to reply! I am not in a hurry.> Regards> Sunil> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste dear Swami,> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable Graha > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is my > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula dasa > somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did say > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear gemstone > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu could > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > issue. > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a pearl > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so far. > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > lording my trines.> >

Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > , "swami" <swami@>wrote:> >> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> > Hari Om,> > Dear Maja,> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your mention > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu as > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th would > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.> > The sign lord is SUN.> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun the > maheswar.> > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal Jup > is Maheswar.> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish knowledge.If > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > last suggestion may be taken just a logical

aplication.> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > with regards.> > OM TATSAT> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > Swami_RCS > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----------> -> > > > - > > majastrbacastro > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> >

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left hand, > so > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th... And > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > considered > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't > think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I can > not > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > means > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th lord > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just >

thoughts...> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > , RKM <rajeevmundra@>wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a > Royal > > Yoga.> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > career.> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic > > debiliated in 12th> > > house)> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > working > > the best.> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > luck.> > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ> > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna<yasodakrsna@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,Ruby > by > > two.> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality > gemologist.> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internetquestions > but > > by paid> > > > services.> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good> money > > by selling> > > > it.> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow sapphire > as > > it works.> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the prediction > to > > be true.> > > > Yasoda.> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>> > > > vedic astrology;

> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > It's been more than four years that I studieddifferent > books on > > gemstones> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the > > gemstone. But none> > > > of them gave very good result.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for> > choosing> > > > gemstone.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by manyastrologers)> > > >> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool> > > >> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > >> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > >> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very well > for > > me. After> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and also > my > > income> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any > astrologer

> > (though I> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it was > > mentioned that> > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10 > books > > on gem> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to > wear > > this gemstone.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire andRed > Coral > > by> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire, that > made > > matters> > > > worse.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell> gem > > stone that> >

> > worked for me.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > >> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > >> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of Diamond). > I > > worn this in> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working > positive> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional inmy > > personal / work> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.> > > >> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.> > > >> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be triedif > some > > one wants> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know more > > about this.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.> > > >> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets > that > > were in 1,5,9> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.> > > >> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal> chart > > and bhava> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)> > > >> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 isbenefic > for > > your> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of > that > > planet and> > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > >> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found instep 3 > is > > malefic,> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wearit > in > > the left hand.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if > some > > one wants to> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with > other > > members, if> > > > this method works for you.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> today

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil, Namaskar

 

1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative,

but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect.

Coral has less side-effects here.

2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.

3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12

from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and

then improvement (navamsa).

5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the

last mail.

 

Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken

and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.

 

Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

Namaskar

Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments,

not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject

Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond

in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed

too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.

I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in

gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this.

Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my

Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it

appropriate?

As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the

beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but

nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can,

and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to

please give me a clear idea what I can do.

Regards

Sunil

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

 

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the

strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that

you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for

me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

decision :)

 

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was

not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin

someone's life.)

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at

the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is

not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

(presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my

temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and

left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste dear Swami,

>

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

Graha

> in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and

> that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

my

> mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

dasa

> somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

say

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone

> for it (either to increase or to decrease).

>

> So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

could

> reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> issue.

>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

pearl

> and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

far.

> Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not

> lording my trines.

>

>

Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

mention

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

as

> maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

would

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

the

> maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are

> both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

Jup

> is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

knowledge.If

> worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is

> not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> last suggestion may be taken just a logical

aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> >

> > -

> > majastrbacastro

> >

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

 

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

hand,

> so

> > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th...

And

> > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> considered

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't

> think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> >

> > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

can

> not

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That

> means

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

lord

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

>

thoughts...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > >

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> Royal

> > Yoga.

> > >

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your

> > career.

> > >

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > >

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > >

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> working

> > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall

> luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > RKM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby

> by

> > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality

> gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions

> but

>

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

 

> money

> > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

sapphire

> as

> > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

prediction

> to

> > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

 

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different

> books on

> > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

 

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

well

> for

> > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

also

> my

> > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> astrologer

 

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

was

> > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> books

> > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> wear

> > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red

> Coral

> > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

that

> made

> > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

 

> gem

> > stone that

> >

> > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

Diamond).

> I

> > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my

> > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if

> some

> > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

more

> > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

 

> chart

> > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic

> for

> > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> that

> > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step

3

> is

> > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it

> in

> > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> some

> > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

 

> other

> > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

 

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today>

 

 

 

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil  , Namaskar

 

Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

Rafal Gendarz pisze:

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil, Namaskar

 

1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative,

but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect.

Coral has less side-effects here.

2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.

3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12

from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and

then improvement (navamsa).

5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the

last mail.

 

Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken

and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.

 

Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

Namaskar

Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments,

not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject

Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond

in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed

too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.

I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in

gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this.

Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my

Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it

appropriate?

As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the

beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but

nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can,

and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to

please give me a clear idea what I can do.

Regards

Sunil

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

 

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the

strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com /

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that

you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for

me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

decision :)

 

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was

not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin

someone's life.)

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at

the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is

not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

(presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my

temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and

left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste dear Swami,

>

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

Graha

> in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and

> that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

my

> mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

dasa

> somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

say

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone

> for it (either to increase or to decrease).

>

> So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

could

> reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> issue.

>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

pearl

> and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

far.

> Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not

> lording my trines.

>

>

Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

mention

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

as

> maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

would

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

the

> maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are

> both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

Jup

> is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

knowledge.If

> worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is

> not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> last suggestion may be taken just a logical

aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> >

> > -

> > majastrbacastro

> >

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

 

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

hand,

> so

> > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th...

And

> > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> considered

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't

> think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> >

> > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

can

> not

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That

> means

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

lord

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

>

thoughts...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > >

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> Royal

> > Yoga.

> > >

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your

> > career.

> > >

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > >

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > >

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> working

> > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall

> luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > RKM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby

> by

> > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality

> gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions

> but

>

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

 

> money

> > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

sapphire

> as

> > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

prediction

> to

> > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

 

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different

> books on

> > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

 

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

well

> for

> > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

also

> my

> > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> astrologer

 

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

was

> > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> books

> > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> wear

> > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red

> Coral

> > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

that

> made

> > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

 

> gem

> > stone that

> >

> > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

Diamond).

> I

> > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my

> > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if

> some

> > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

more

> > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

 

> chart

> > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic

> for

> > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> that

> > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step

3

> is

> > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it

> in

> > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> some

> > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

 

> other

> > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

 

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today>

 

 

 

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

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Dear Rafalji,So I should definitely remove Diamond. At least let me try by removing it as wearing it also has not improved anything. it has definitely not increased finances.Right now I am reciting Surya Ashtakshari and have 19 more days to go. I will ask temple priest about Bhuvaneshwari. Thanks Sunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 4:13 AM

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

Rafal Gendarz pisze:

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil, Namaskar

 

1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative,

but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect.

Coral has less side-effects here.

2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.

3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12

from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and

then improvement (navamsa).

5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the

last mail.

 

Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken

and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.

 

Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

Namaskar

Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments,

not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject

Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond

in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed

too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.

I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in

gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this.

Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my

Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it

appropriate?

As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the

beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but

nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can,

and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to

please give me a clear idea what I can do.

Regards

Sunil

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the

strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com /

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave NamahDear Sunil,NamasteMy decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong decision :)Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not quite skilled with this issue, so

have this in mind (Though it was not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin someone's life.)Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Sat, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Maja,> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. However, things became quite clear later on especially with your comments on antardasha.> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my career or financial aspects.> Now, my real

question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to reply! I am not in a hurry.> Regards> Sunil> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste dear Swami,> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable Graha > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is my > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula dasa

> somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did say > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear gemstone > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu could > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > issue. > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a pearl > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so far. > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > lording my

trines.> > Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > , "swami" <swami@>wrote:> >> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah> > Hari Om,> > Dear Maja,> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your mention > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu as > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th would > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.> > The sign lord is SUN.> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN

becomes Brahma Planet.> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun the > maheswar.> > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal Jup > is Maheswar.> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish knowledge.If > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > last suggestion may be taken

just a logical aplication.> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > with regards.> > OM TATSAT> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > Swami_RCS > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----------> -> > > > - > > majastrbacastro > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev

maybe?),> > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left hand, > so > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th... And > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > considered > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't > think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I can > not > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > means > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th lord > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > expenses. He was weakening this one

also. These are just > thoughts...> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > , RKM <rajeevmundra@>wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a > Royal > > Yoga.> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > career.> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic > > debiliated in 12th> > > house)> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > Sun is at

0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th house.> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > working > > the best.> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > luck.> > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ> > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna<yasodakrsna@> > > wrote:> > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,Ruby > by > > two.> >

> > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality > gemologist.> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internetquestions > but > > by paid> > > > services.> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good> money > > by selling> > > > it.> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow sapphire > as > > it works.> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the prediction > to > > be true.> > > > Yasoda.> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>> >

> > vedic astrology; > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > It's been more than four years that I studieddifferent > books on > > gemstones> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the > > gemstone. But none> > > > of them gave very good result.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for> > choosing> > > > gemstone.> > > >> > > >> > >

>> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by manyastrologers)> > > >> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool> > > >> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > >> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > >> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very well > for > > me. After> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and also > my > > income> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Well, this gem

stone was not recommended to me by any > astrologer > > (though I> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it was > > mentioned that> > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10 > books > > on gem> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to > wear > > this gemstone.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire andRed > Coral > > by> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire, that > made > > matters> > > > worse.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I

will tell> gem > > stone that> > > > worked for me.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > >> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > >> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of Diamond). > I > > worn this in> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working > positive> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional inmy > > personal / work> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.> > > >> > >

>> > > >> > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.> > > >> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.> > > >> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be triedif > some > > one wants> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know more > > about this.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.> > > >> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that > > were in 1,5,9> > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.> > > >> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal> chart > > and bhava> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)> > > >> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 isbenefic > for > > your> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of > that > > planet and> > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > >> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found instep 3 > is > > malefic,> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wearit > in > > the left hand.>

> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if > some > > one wants to> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with > other > > members, if> > > > this method works for you.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> today

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Om Gurave Namah,

 

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones

off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should put on

your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart is so

far pretty much in the category of " I don't know " and " you should

rather perform mantras " .

 

I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)

 

Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to meet

less " confusing " charts in future (I mean just regarding gemstone

issue) after you read it.

 

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-01T00%

3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%

3A00 & max-results=50

 

 

Right below " Narayana Dasa I: Basics " you can find article about

gemstones.

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21 wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made

so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are

clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.

> My birth data is as follows:

> DOB: 21st September 1955

> TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

>

> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

>

> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

> Dear Sunil,

> Namaste

>

> My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

> procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring

that

> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable

for

> me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

> decision :)

>

> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

> quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was

> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for

> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

> often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather than to ruin

> someone's life.)

>

> Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

> , Sunil Sharma

> <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Maja,

> > I have been reading each and every message on this thread and,

at

> the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

> However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

> comments on antardasha.

> > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra

is

> not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra

(in

> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

> Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

> (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant

in

> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to

a

> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens

my

> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

> career or financial aspects.

> > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and

> left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have

> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days

to

> reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

> >

> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear Swami,

> >

> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

> Graha

> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find

(and

> > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

> my

> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

> dasa

> > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

> say

> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear

gemstone

> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).

> >

> > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding

determining

> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

> could

> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> > issue.

> >

> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

> pearl

> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

> far.

> > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is

not

> > lording my trines.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " swami " <swami@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah

> > > Hari Om,

> > > Dear Maja,

> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

> mention

> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't think

> > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives

Ketu

> as

> > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

> would

> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

> > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

> the

> > maheswar.

> > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup

are

> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

> Jup

> > is Maheswar.

> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

> knowledge.If

> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar

is

> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > > with regards.

> > > OM TATSAT

> > > ------------------------

> > > Swami_RCS

> > > -----------------------

> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

> Being

> > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our

understanding. "

> > > ------------------------------

--

> --

> > -

> > >

> > > -

> > > majastrbacastro

> > >

> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> > >

> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

> hand,

> > so

> > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th...

> And

> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> > considered

> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I

don't

> > think

> > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > >

> > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

> can

> > not

> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna

is

> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it.

That

> > means

> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

> lord

> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

> > thoughts...

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Maja

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > > , RKM <rajeevmundra@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > >

> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> > Royal

> > > Yoga.

> > > >

> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in

your

> > > career.

> > > >

> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > >

> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > house)

> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th house.

> > > >

> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> > working

> > > the best.

> > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and

overall

> > luck.

> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > > RKM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

> <yasodakrsna@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

> Ruby

> > by

> > > two.

> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality

> > gemologist.

> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

> questions

> > but

> > > by paid

> > > > > services.

> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

>

> > money

> > > by selling

> > > > > it.

> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

> sapphire

> > as

> > > it works.

> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

> prediction

> > to

> > > be true.

> > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>

> > > > > vedic astrology ;

> >

> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

> different

> > books on

> > > gemstones

> > > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

>

> > > choosing

> > > > > gemstone.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many

> astrologers)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

> well

> > for

> > > me. After

> > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

> also

> > my

> > > income

> > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> > astrologer

> > > (though I

> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

> was

> > > mentioned that

> > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> > books

> > > on gem

> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> > wear

> > > this gemstone.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

> Red

> > Coral

> > > by

> > > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

> that

> > made

> > > matters

> > > > > worse.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

>

> > gem

> > > stone that

> > > > > worked for me.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > >

> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

> Diamond).

> > I

> > > worn this in

> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> > positive

> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

> my

> > > personal / work

> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

> if

> > some

> > > one wants

> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

> more

> > > about this.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> > that

> > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

>

> > chart

> > > and bhava

> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

> benefic

> > for

> > > your

> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> > that

> > > planet and

> > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

> step

> 3

> > is

> > > malefic,

> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

> it

> > in

> > > the left hand.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> > some

> > > one wants to

> > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

> > other

> > > members, if

> > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the human

> > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading

> > today

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Hi Maja,Thanks for the effort.Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a ring made though.This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I have met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or a difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you are doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying YES when I mean to say NO!So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit the nail on the head.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)To:

Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AMOm Gurave Namah,Dear Sunil,NamasteJust when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should put on your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart is so far pretty much in the category of "I don't know" and "youshould rather perform mantras".I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to meet less "confusing" charts in future (I mean just regarding gemstone issue) after you read it.http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & max-results=50 Right below "Narayana Dasa I: Basics" you can find article about

gemstones.Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Sat , Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:>> Dear Maja,> I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.> My birth data is as follows:> DOB: 21st September 1955> TOB: 10:32 A.M.> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.> Regards> Sunil> > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)> > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > Om Gurave

Namah> Dear Sunil,> Namaste> > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong > decision :)> > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an > opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this

thread I am not > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are > complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than toruin > someone's life.)> > Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > , Sunil Sharma > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> >> > Dear Maja,> > I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. > However, things became quite clear later on especially with your > comments on antardasha.> > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though

chandra is > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in > lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a > pendant and wore it in the neck in a

black string. I have since > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my > career or financial aspects.> > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and > left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to > reply! I am not in a hurry.> > Regards> > Sunil> > > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Namaste dear Swami,> > >

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable > Graha > > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is > my > > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara inShula > dasa > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did > say > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear gemstone > > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu > could > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > > issue. >

> > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a > pearl > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so > far. > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > > lording my trines.> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > > , "swami" <swami@>> wrote:> > >> > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah> > > Hari Om,> > > Dear Maja,> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

> mention > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't think > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu > as > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th > would > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.> > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.> > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun > the > > maheswar.> > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal >

Jup > > is Maheswar.> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish > knowledge.If > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > with regards.> > > OM TATSAT> > > ------------------------> > > Swami_RCS > > >

-----------------------> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine> Being > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."> > > --------------------------------> --> > -> > > > > > - > > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left > hand, > > so > > > that means he

was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th... > And > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > > considered > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't > > think > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I > can > > not > > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yetMithuna is > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > > means > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th > lord > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just > > thoughts...> >

> > > > Regards,> > > Maja> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > , RKM <rajeevmundra@>> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which isa > > Royal > > > Yoga.> > > > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > > career.> > > > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic> > > debiliated in 12th> > > > house)>

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8thhouse.> > > > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > > working > > > the best.> > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > > luck.> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ> > > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna> <yasodakrsna@> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > Unfortunately

even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have madeerror.> > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral byone,> Ruby > > by > > > two.> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality> > gemologist.> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet> questions > > but > > > by paid> > > > > services.> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and madegood> > > money > > > by selling> > > > > it.> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow > sapphire > > as > > > it works.> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the > prediction > > to > > > be

true.> > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone ifsincere> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>> > > > > vedic astrology ; > > > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > It's been more than four years that I studied> different > > books on > > > gemstones> > > > > and got advise from different good astrologers

aboutthe > > > gemstone. But none> > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > As of now, some of the following theories arepresent for> > > > choosing> > > > > gemstone.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many> astrologers)> > > > >> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) -Anukool> > > > >> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > >> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > >> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone workedvery > well > > for > > > me. After> > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my careerand > also > > my > > > income> > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me byany > > astrologer > > > (though I> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no suchbook it > was > > > mentioned that> > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately8-10 > > books > > > on

gem> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was notadvised to > > wear > > > this gemstone.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphireand> Red > > Coral > > > by> > > > > different astrologers. One even advised bluesapphire, > that > > made > > > matters> > > > > worse.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I willtell> > > gem > > > stone that> > > > > worked for me.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > >> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > >> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of > Diamond). > > I > > > worn this in> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things startedworking > > positive> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thingexceptional in> my > > > personal / work> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.> > > > >> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.> > > > >> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may betried> if > > some > > > one wants> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we canknow > more > > > about this.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.> > > > >> > > > > 2. Now have a look

at Bhava Chart. If any of theplanets > > that > > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.> > > > >> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in bothnatal> > > chart > > > and bhava> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)> > > > >> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is> benefic > > for > > > your> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the maingemstone of > > that > > > planet and> > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > > >> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was foundin> step > 3 > > is

> > > malefic,> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet andwear> it > > in > > > the left hand.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mindand if > > some > > > one wants to> > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly sharewith > > other > > > members, if> > > > > this method works for you.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > ---> > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare RamaKrishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the human> > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading> > today

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Dear Rafal,

 

I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would be great if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not understand.

 

1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti causing exchange of effects?

2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its significance?

 

3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of shani. Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought it was for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact rule.

 

4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that case shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why is the Krishna idol donation neeeded?

 

Thanks in advance,.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sunil , NamaskarDiamond is forbidden due to parivartana.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comRafal Gendarz pisze:

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sunil, Namaskar1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative, but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and then improvement (navamsa).5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the last mail.Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of idol/picture related to Sri

Krishna.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji, NamaskarThank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments, not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this. Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it appropriate?As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea

what I can do. RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sunil , NamaskarYou cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.You can wear only Coral.Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji sincerly!Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.My birth data is as follows:DOB: 21st September 1955TOB: 10:32 A.M.POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ >[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AMOm Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong decision :)

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin someone's life.)

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. However, things became quite clear later on especially with your comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable Graha > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is my > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula dasa > somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did say > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu could > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > issue. > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a pearl > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so far. > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > lording my trines.

> >

Regards,

> Maja

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your mention > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu as > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th would > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun the > maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal Jup > is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish knowledge.If > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> > > > - > > majastrbacastro > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left hand, > so > > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th... And > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > considered > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't > think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I can > not > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > means > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th lord > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just >

thoughts...

> > > > Regards,

> > Maja

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a > Royal > > Yoga.

> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > career.

> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic > > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > working > > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÃÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÃ

> > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby > by > > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality > gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions > but >

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

> money > > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow sapphire > as > > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the prediction > to > > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different > books on > > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the > > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very well > for > > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and also > my > > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any > astrologer

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it was > > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10 > books > > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to > wear > > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red > Coral > > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire, that > made > > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

> gem > > stone that

> > > > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of Diamond). > I > > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working > positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my > > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if > some > > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know more > > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets > that > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

> chart > > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic > for > > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of > that > > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step 3 > is > > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it > in > > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if > some > > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

> other > > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

> today

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>

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~ om tat sat ~

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Also one more point..

 

You had said .."Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H)."

 

IN venus-rahu I think the anuvava should fall on 3rd house?Venus in 11th bhava and rahu in lagna? Ve -MD and Ra - AD. And also, in case we are seeing any vimsottari AD, should we always check which planet is being eclipsed by the AD planet as per vara chakra?

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Sun, 6/7/08, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote:

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 6:14 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would be great if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not understand.

 

1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti causing exchange of effects?

2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its significance?

 

3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of shani. Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought it was for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact rule.

 

4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that case shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why is the Krishna idol donation neeeded?

 

Thanks in advance,.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sunil , NamaskarDiamond is forbidden due to parivartana.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comRafal Gendarz pisze:

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sunil, Namaskar1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative, but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and then improvement (navamsa).5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the last mail.Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of idol/picture related to Sri

Krishna.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji, NamaskarThank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments, not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this. Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it appropriate?As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea

what I can do. RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sunil , NamaskarYou cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.You can wear only Coral.Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji sincerly!Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.My birth data is as follows:DOB: 21st September 1955TOB: 10:32 A.M.POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ >[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AMOm Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong decision :)

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin someone's life.)

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. However, things became quite clear later on especially with your comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable Graha > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is my > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula dasa > somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did say > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu could > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > issue. > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a pearl > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so far. > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > lording my trines.

> >

Regards,

> Maja

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your mention > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu as > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th would > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun the > maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal Jup > is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish knowledge.If > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> > > > - > > majastrbacastro > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left hand, > so > > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th... And > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > considered > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't > think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I can > not > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > means > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th lord > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just >

thoughts...

> > > > Regards,

> > Maja

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a > Royal > > Yoga.

> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > career.

> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic > > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > working > > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÃÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÃ

> > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby > by > > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality > gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions > but >

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

> money > > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow sapphire > as > > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the prediction > to > > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different > books on > > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the > > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very well > for > > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and also > my > > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any > astrologer

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it was > > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10 > books > > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to > wear > > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red > Coral > > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire, that > made > > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

> gem > > stone that

> > > > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of Diamond). > I > > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working > positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my > > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if > some > > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know more > > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets > that > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

> chart > > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic > for > > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of > that > > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step 3 > is > > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it > in > > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if > some > > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

> other > > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

> today

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>

------------ --------- --------- ------

~ om tat sat ~

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(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

You are most welcome, this is not just effort, I enjoy this very

much.

 

Well if you are looking for straight and honest answers for such

questions, you are lucky since you already had a conversation today

with that kind of Jytisha. He gave you detailed answer on the

gemstone. I can not tell you much about myself since I am not giving

readings yet. But I do have a plan to be fully straight only if I am

sure I can give proper remedies.

 

You see, your Rasi chart is almost familiar to me. My father is one

month younger than you, and you share Chandra and Lagna Rasi. Of

course, Kala Sarpa also... He had a difficult life, that is true,

but now it is much better. He also has a bad habit of being unable

to get rid of that constant tension inside even when there is no

actual problem. When most of circumstances are well he still has a

strong urge inside to find problem or a reason to be tensed. If you

recognize any of this in yourself and when you recognize that you

behave by this same pattern, please remember me and stop yourself.

Cut that unnecessary mechanism in the very root. You can feel much

better in life, I assure you. One can always find a reason to be

unhappy. (I said this same thing so many times to my father, he is

still stubborn :)

 

In case that mentioned link is not working:

 

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/

 

And look for posts from 2004. Rest of instructions is as mentioned

earlier.

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21 wrote:

>

> Hi Maja,

> Thanks for the effort.

> Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a

ring made though.

> This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I have

met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or a

difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you are

doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying YES

when I mean to say NO!

> So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit

the nail on the head.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

>

> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AM

>

> Om Gurave Namah,

>

> Dear Sunil,

> Namaste

>

> Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones

> off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should put

on

> your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart is

so

> far pretty much in the category of " I don't know " and " you

> should

> rather perform mantras " .

>

> I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)

>

> Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to

meet

> less " confusing " charts in future (I mean just regarding gemstone

> issue) after you read it.

>

> http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-01T00%

> 3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%

> 3A00 & max-results=50

>

>

> Right below " Narayana Dasa I: Basics " you can find article about

> gemstones.

>

> Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

> , Sunil Sharma

> <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Maja,

> > I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made

> so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts

are

> clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.

> > My birth data is as follows:

> > DOB: 21st September 1955

> > TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a

hurry.

> > Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> >

> > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

> >

> > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Sunil,

> > Namaste

> >

> > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

> > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I

wear

> > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very

entertaining

> > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

> > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring

> that

> > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable

> for

> > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I

consider

> > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If

I

> > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

> > decision :)

> >

> > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

> > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as

an

> > opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

> > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it

was

> > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for

> > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as

they

> > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

> > complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather than to

> ruin

> > someone's life.)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> >

> > , Sunil Sharma

> > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Maja,

> > > I have been reading each and every message on this thread and,

> at

> > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

> > However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

> > comments on antardasha.

> > > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra

> is

> > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra

> (in

> > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

> > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon

in

> > lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think

KSY

> > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

> > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

> > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been

told

> > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> > > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am

still

> > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

> > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant

> in

> > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it

to

> a

> > pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

> > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens

> my

> > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

> > career or financial aspects.

> > > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and

> > left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have

> > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few

days

> to

> > reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > Regards

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

> > >

> > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > >

> > > Namaste dear Swami,

> > >

> > > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

> > Graha

> > > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find

> (and

> > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It

is

> > my

> > > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in

> Shula

> > dasa

> > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I

did

> > say

> > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear

> gemstone

> > > for it (either to increase or to decrease).

> > >

> > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding

> determining

> > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

> > could

> > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if

Rahu

> > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about

this

> > > issue.

> > >

> > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

> > pearl

> > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What

is

> > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

> > far.

> > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is

> not

> > > lording my trines.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Maja

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " swami " <swami@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah

> > > > Hari Om,

> > > > Dear Maja,

> > > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

> > mention

> > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't think

> > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives

> Ketu

> > as

> > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

> > would

> > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma

Planet.

> > > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from

Sun

> > the

> > > maheswar.

> > > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup

> are

> > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic

bal

> > Jup

> > > is Maheswar.

> > > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

> > knowledge.If

> > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar

> is

> > > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so

this

> > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > > > with regards.

> > > > OM TATSAT

> > > > ------------------------

> > > > Swami_RCS

> > > > -----------------------

> > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

>

> > Being

> > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our

> understanding. "

> > > > ----------------------------

--

> --

> > --

> > > -

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > majastrbacastro

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> > > >

> > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

> > hand,

> > > so

> > > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in

9th...

> > And

> > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> > > considered

> > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I

> don't

> > > think

> > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > >

> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time

I

> > can

> > > not

> > > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet

> Mithuna

> is

> > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it.

> That

> > > means

> > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

> > lord

> > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna

signifies

> > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

> > > thoughts...

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > > , RKM <rajeevmundra@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > >

> > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is

> a

> > > Royal

> > > > Yoga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in

> your

> > > > career.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > > >

> > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

>

> > > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > house)

> > > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th

> house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> > > working

> > > > the best.

> > > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and

> overall

> > > luck.

> > > > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > > > RKM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

> > <yasodakrsna@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made

> error.

> > > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by

> one,

> > Ruby

> > > by

> > > > two.

> > > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended quality

>

> > > gemologist.

> > > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

> > questions

> > > but

> > > > by paid

> > > > > > services.

> > > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made

> good

> >

> > > money

> > > > by selling

> > > > > > it.

> > > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

> > sapphire

> > > as

> > > > it works.

> > > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

> > prediction

> > > to

> > > > be true.

> > > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if

> sincere

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>

> > > > > > vedic astrology ;

> > >

> > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

> > different

> > > books on

> > > > gemstones

> > > > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about

> the

> > > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As of now, some of the following theories are

> present for

> >

> > > > choosing

> > > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many

> > astrologers)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) -

> Anukool

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked

> very

> > well

> > > for

> > > > me. After

> > > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career

> and

> > also

> > > my

> > > > income

> > > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by

> any

> > > astrologer

> > > > (though I

> > > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such

> book it

> > was

> > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately

> 8-10

> > > books

> > > > on gem

> > > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not

> advised to

> > > wear

> > > > this gemstone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire

> and

> > Red

> > > Coral

> > > > by

> > > > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue

> sapphire,

> > that

> > > made

> > > > matters

> > > > > > worse.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will

> tell

> >

> > > gem

> > > > stone that

> > > > > > worked for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > >

> > > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

> > Diamond).

> > > I

> > > > worn this in

> > > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started

> working

> > > positive

> > > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing

> exceptional in

> > my

> > > > personal / work

> > > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be

> tried

> > if

> > > some

> > > > one wants

> > > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can

> know

> > more

> > > > about this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the

> planets

> > > that

> > > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both

> natal

> >

> > > chart

> > > > and bhava

> > > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

> > benefic

> > > for

> > > > your

> > > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main

> gemstone of

> > > that

> > > > planet and

> > > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found

> in

> > step

> > 3

> > > is

> > > > malefic,

> > > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and

> wear

> > it

> > > in

> > > > the left hand.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The above was just a thought that came to my mind

> and if

> > > some

> > > > one wants to

> > > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share

> with

> > > other

> > > > members, if

> > > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the human

> > > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading

> > > today

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Dear Maja,In fact you are right to the extent that I have had a difficult life but not as difficult as my chart would suggest, only inconsistent. When I was a child and had no worries about my future an astrologer told my mother that in my lifetime, I will never have it so bad financially and, if i do get stuck someone will come and give me the money. That memory is still very clear in my mind and it has worked. I have had best of education in my field with practically no support from anyone, stepped out of India with 20 dollars and have a lot to show for my efforts. So, it is not that bad after all.Yes, i would describe my father to be someone like your father and to an extent I have learnt to be a cautious person after him. Further, that fear psychosis is as a result of Rahu/Ketu so it is there in the chart, can't help it. But, I will try and

learn to 'let go', only it is difficult to change at this age.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:23 AMOm Gurave NamahDear Sunil,NamasteYou are most welcome, this is not just effort, I enjoy this very much.Well if you are looking for straight and honest answers for such questions, you are lucky since you already had a conversation today with that kind of Jytisha. He gave you detailed answer on the gemstone. I can not tell you much about myself since I am not giving readings yet. But I do have a plan to be fully straight only if I

am sure I can give proper remedies. You see, your Rasi chart is almost familiar to me. My father is one month younger than you, and you share Chandra and Lagna Rasi. Of course, Kala Sarpa also... He had a difficult life, that is true, but now it is much better. He also has a bad habit of being unable to get rid of that constant tension inside even when there is no actual problem. When most of circumstances are well he still has a strong urge inside to find problem or a reason to be tensed. If you recognize any of this in yourself and when you recognize that you behave by this same pattern, please remember me and stop yourself. Cut that unnecessary mechanism in the very root. You can feel much better in life, I assure you. One can always find a reason to be unhappy. (I said this same thing so many times to my father, he is still stubborn :)In case that mentioned link is not

working:http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/And look for posts from 2004. Rest of instructions is as mentioned earlier.Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Sat , Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:>> Hi Maja,> Thanks for the effort.> Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a ring made though.> This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I have met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or a difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you are doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying YES when I mean to say NO!> So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit the nail on the head.> Regards> Sunil> > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)> > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AM> > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Sunil,> Namaste> > Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones > off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should put on > your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart is so > far pretty much in the category of "I don't know" and"you> should > rather perform mantras".> > I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)> > Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to meet > less "confusing" charts in future (I mean just regardinggemstone > issue) after you read it.> >

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-01T00%> 3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%> 3A00 & max-results=50 > > > Right below "Narayana Dasa I: Basics" you can find article about> gemstones.> > Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > , Sunil Sharma > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> >> > Dear Maja,> > I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made > so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are > clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.> > My birth data is as follows:> > DOB: 21st September 1955> > TOB: 10:32 A.M.> > POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a

hurry.> > Regards> > Sunil> > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)> > > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Sunil,> > Namaste> > > > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with > > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear > > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining > > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past > > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring > that > > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it

is not suitable > for > > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider > > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I > > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong > > decision :)> > > > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at > > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an > > opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not > > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was > > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for > > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they > > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are > > complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather thanto> ruin

> > someone's life.)> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > , Sunil Sharma > > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Maja,> > > I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, > at > > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. > > However, things became quite clear later on especially with your > > comments on antardasha.> > > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra > is > > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra > (in > > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted > > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in > > lagna

aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is > > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to > > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told > > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> > > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still > > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger > > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant > in > > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to > a > > pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since > > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens > my > > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement

in my > > career or financial aspects.> > > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and > > left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have > > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days > to > > reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > Regards> > > Sunil> > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>wrote:> > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > > > > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

> > Graha > > > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find > (and > > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is > > my > > > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvarain> Shula > > dasa > > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did > > say > > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear > gemstone > > > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding > determining > > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu > > could > > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

information about this > > > issue. > > > > > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a > > pearl > > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so > > far. > > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is > not > > > lording my trines.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Maja> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "swami"<swami@>> > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > || Om Gurave

Namah ||> > > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah> > > > Hari Om,> > > > Dear Maja,> > > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your > > mention > > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don'tthink > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives > Ketu > > as > > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8th > > would > > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.> > > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.> > > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from

Sun > > the > > > maheswar.> > > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup> are > > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal > > Jup > > > is Maheswar.> > > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.> > > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stoneof > > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish > > knowledge.If > > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.> > > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related tomaheshwar > is > > > not

taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.> > > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > with regards.> > > > OM TATSAT> > > > ------------------------> > > > Swami_RCS > > > > -----------------------> > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of thatDivine> > > Being > > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our > understanding."> > > >------------------------------> --> > --> > > -> > > > > > > > - > > > > majastrbacastro > > >

> > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left> > hand, > > > so > > > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th... > > And > > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is> > > considered > > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I > don't > > > think > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > >

> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but thistime I > > can > > > not > > > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet> Mithuna > is > > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. > That > > > means > > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna.12th > > lord > > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just > > > thoughts...> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Maja> > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > , RKM<rajeevmundra@>> >

wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th housewhich is> a > > > Royal > > > > Yoga.> > > > > > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you growin > your > > > > career.> > > > > > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.> > > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok ifmalefic> > > > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > house)> > > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of

8th> house.> > > > > > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflictedis > > > working > > > > the best.> > > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and> overall > > > luck.> > > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄfÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ> > > > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna> > <yasodakrsna@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > >

Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC havemade> error.> > > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coralby> one,> > Ruby > > > by > > > > two.> > > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommendedquality> > > > gemologist.> > > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not byinternet> > questions > > > but > > > > by paid> > > > > > services.> > > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared andmade> good> > > > > money > > > > by selling> > > > > > it.> > > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation ofyellow > > sapphire > > > as > > > > it

works.> > > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata forthe > > prediction > > > to > > > > be true.> > > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if> sincere> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>> > > > > > vedic astrology ; > > > > > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > >> > > > > >>

> > > > >> > > > > > It's been more than four years that Istudied> > different > > > books on > > > > gemstones> > > > > > and got advise from different good astrologersabout> the > > > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > As of now, some of the following theories are> present for> > > > > > choosing> > > > > > gemstone.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many> > astrologers)> > > > > >>

> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) -> Anukool> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > >> > > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstoneworked> very > > well > > > for > > > > me. After> > > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in mycareer> and > > also > > > my > > > > income> > > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4months.> > > >

> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to meby> any > > > astrologer > > > > (though I> > > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in nosuch> book it > > was > > > > mentioned that> > > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I readapproximately> 8-10 > > > books > > > > on gem> > > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not> advised to > > > wear > > > > this gemstone.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, YellowSapphire> and> > Red >

> > Coral > > > > by> > > > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue> sapphire, > > that > > > made > > > > matters> > > > > > worse.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then Iwill> tell> > > > > gem > > > > stone that> > > > > > worked for me.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > >> > > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > >> >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substituteof > > Diamond). > > > I > > > > worn this in> > > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and thingsstarted> working > > > positive> > > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> exceptional in> > my > > > > personal / work> > > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not

running.> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that maybe> tried> > if > > > some > > > > one wants> > > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that wecan> know > > more > > > > about this.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.> > > > > >> > > >

> > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any ofthe> planets > > > that > > > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore thatplanet.> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) inboth> natal> > > > > chart > > > > and bhava> > > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)> > > > > >> > > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3is> > benefic > > > for > > > > your> > > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main> gemstone of > > > that > > > > planet and> > > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > >

> > >> > > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that wasfound> in> > step > > 3 > > > is > > > > malefic,> > > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planetand> wear> > it > > > in > > > > the left hand.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The above was just a thought that came to mymind> and if > > > some > > > > one wants to> > > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindlyshare> with > > > other > > > > members, if> > > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > >> > > > > >>

> > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ---> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama> Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the human> > > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3)

Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading> > > today

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Dear Maja & Anyone caring to reply.!One small queryWhat is the effect of wearning a gemstone at various places.1. Finger. (different fingers)2. Wrist (wearing as rakhi.is worn)

3. Upper part of hand.which is under shirts.4. Neck5. On Stomach area.Any article on effects of gemstones worn on different fingers?ॠनमः शिवाय RKMOn Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,In fact you are right to the extent that I have had a difficult life but not as difficult as my chart would suggest, only inconsistent. When I was a child and had no worries about my future an astrologer told my mother that in my lifetime, I will never have it so bad financially and, if i do get stuck someone will come and give me the money. That memory is still very clear in my mind and it has worked. I have had best of education in my field with practically no support from anyone, stepped out of India with 20 dollars and have a lot to show for my efforts. So, it is not that bad after all.

Yes, i would describe my father to be someone like your father and to an extent I have learnt to be a cautious person after him. Further, that fear psychosis is as a result of Rahu/Ketu so it is there in the chart, can't help it. But, I will try and

learn to 'let go', only it is difficult to change at this age.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:23 AM

Om Gurave NamahDear Sunil,NamasteYou are most welcome, this is not just effort, I enjoy this very much.Well if you are looking for straight and honest answers for such

questions, you are lucky since you already had a conversation today with that kind of Jytisha. He gave you detailed answer on the gemstone. I can not tell you much about myself since I am not giving readings yet. But I do have a plan to be fully straight only if I

am sure I can give proper remedies. You see, your Rasi chart is almost familiar to me. My father is one month younger than you, and you share Chandra and Lagna Rasi. Of course, Kala Sarpa also... He had a difficult life, that is true,

but now it is much better. He also has a bad habit of being unable to get rid of that constant tension inside even when there is no actual problem. When most of circumstances are well he still has a strong urge inside to find problem or a reason to be tensed. If you

recognize any of this in yourself and when you recognize that you behave by this same pattern, please remember me and stop yourself. Cut that unnecessary mechanism in the very root. You can feel much better in life, I assure you. One can always find a reason to be

unhappy. (I said this same thing so many times to my father, he is still stubborn :)In case that mentioned link is not

working:http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/And look for posts from 2004. Rest of instructions is as mentioned earlier.Regards,

MajaHari Om Tat Sat , Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:>> Hi Maja,> Thanks for the effort.

> Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a ring made though.> This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I have met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or a

difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you are doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying YES when I mean to say NO!> So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit

the nail on the head.> Regards> Sunil> > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)>

> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AM> > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Sunil,> Namaste> > Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones > off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should put

on > your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart is so > far pretty much in the category of " I don't know " and " you> should > rather perform mantras " .

> > I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)> > Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to meet > less " confusing " charts in future (I mean just regarding

gemstone > issue) after you read it.> >

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-01T00%> 3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%

> 3A00 & max-results=50 > > > Right below " Narayana Dasa I: Basics " you can find article about> gemstones.> > Regards,> Maja> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > , Sunil Sharma > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> >> > Dear Maja,> > I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made

> so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are > clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.> > My birth data is as follows:> > DOB: 21st September 1955> > TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a

hurry.> > Regards> > Sunil> > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)> > > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Sunil,> > Namaste> > > > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with > > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I

wear > > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining > > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past > > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring

> that > > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it

is not suitable > for > > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider > > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I > > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

> > decision :)> > > > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at > > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an > > opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

> > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it was > > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for > > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as

they > > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are > > complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather thanto> ruin

> > someone's life.)> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > , Sunil Sharma

> > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Maja,> > > I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, > at > > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

> > However, things became quite clear later on especially with your > > comments on antardasha.> > > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra > is > > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra

> (in > > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted > > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in > > lagna

aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY > > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is > > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

> > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told > > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> > > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am

still > > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger > > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant > in > > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it

to > a > > pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since > > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens > my > > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement

in my > > career or financial aspects.> > > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and > > left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should have

> > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days > to > > reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > Regards> > > Sunil> > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

wrote:> > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > >

> > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

> > Graha > > > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find > (and > > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is > > my

> > > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and Maheshvarain> Shula > > dasa > > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did > > say

> > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear > gemstone > > > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding

> determining > > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu > > could > > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

information about this > > > issue. > > > > > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

> > pearl > > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so > > far. > > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is

> not > > > lording my trines.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Maja> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > , " swami " <swami@>> > wrote:> > > >> > > >

> > > > || Om Gurave

Namah ||> > > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah> > > > Hari Om,> > > > Dear Maja,> > > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your > > mention

> > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don'tthink > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives

> Ketu > > as > > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8th > > would > > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.> > > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from

Sun > > the > > > maheswar.> > > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup

> are > > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal > > Jup > > > is Maheswar.> > > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stoneof > > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

> > knowledge.If > > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.> > > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to

maheshwar > is > > > not

taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.> > > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > with regards.

> > > > OM TATSAT> > > > ------------------------> > > > Swami_RCS > > > > -----------------------

> > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of thatDivine> > > Being > > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our > understanding. " > > > >

------------------------------> --> > --> > > -> > > > > > > > - > > > > majastrbacastro

> > >

> > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

> > hand, > > > so > > > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in 9th... > > And > > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> > > considered > > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I > don't > > > think > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > >

> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but thistime I > > can > > > not > > > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet

> Mithuna > is > > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. > That > > > means > > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna.

12th > > lord > > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just > > > thoughts...

> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Maja> > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > , RKM

<rajeevmundra@>> >

wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th housewhich is> a > > > Royal

> > > > Yoga.> > > > > > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you growin > your > > > > career.> > > > >

> > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.> > > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if

malefic> > > > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > house)> > > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> > > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of

8th> house.> > > > > > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflictedis > > > working > > > > the best.> > > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and

> overall > > > luck.> > > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÃÒÄf

ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÃ> > > > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

> > <yasodakrsna@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > >

Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC havemade> error.> > > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coralby> one,> > Ruby > > > by > > > > two.

> > > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommendedquality> > > > gemologist.> > > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not byinternet> > questions

> > > but > > > > by paid> > > > > > services.> > > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared andmade> good> > > > > money

> > > > by selling> > > > > > it.> > > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation ofyellow > > sapphire > > > as > > > > it

works.> > > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata forthe > > prediction > > > to > > > > be true.> > > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if> sincere> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>> > > > > > vedic astrology ;

> > > > > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > >> > > > > >>

> > > > >> > > > > > It's been more than four years that Istudied> > different > > > books on > > > > gemstones> > > > > > and got advise from different good astrologers

about> the > > > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > of them gave very good result.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > As of now, some of the following theories are> present for> > > > > > choosing> > > > > > gemstone.> > > > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many> > astrologers)> > > > > >>

> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) -> Anukool> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstoneworked> very > > well > > > for > > > > me. After> > > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my

career> and > > also > > > my > > > > income> > > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4months.> > > >

> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to meby> any > > > astrologer > > > > (though I

> > > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in nosuch> book it > > was > > > > mentioned that> > > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read

approximately> 8-10 > > > books > > > > on gem> > > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not> advised to > > > wear > > > > this gemstone.

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, YellowSapphire> and> > Red

>

> > Coral > > > > by> > > > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue> sapphire, > > that > > > made > > > > matters

> > > > > > worse.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I

will> tell> > > > > gem > > > > stone that> > > > > > worked for me.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > >> > > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > >

> >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute

of > > Diamond). > > > I > > > > worn this in> > > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and thingsstarted> working > > > positive

> > > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> exceptional in> > my > > > > personal / work> > > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not

running.> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that maybe> tried> > if

> > > some > > > > one wants> > > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that wecan> know > > more > > > > about this.> > > > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.> > > > > >> > > >

> > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any ofthe> planets > > > that > > > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that

planet.> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) inboth> natal> > > > > chart > > > > and bhava

> > > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)> > > > > >> > > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3is> > benefic

> > > for > > > > your> > > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main> gemstone of > > > that > > > > planet and> > > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > >

> > >> > > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that wasfound> in> > step > > 3 > > > is > > > > malefic,> > > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet

and> wear> > it > > > in > > > > the left hand.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The above was just a thought that came to my

mind> and if > > > some > > > > one wants to> > > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindlyshare> with > > > other > > > > members, if

> > > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > >> > > > > >>

> > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > ---> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > that the human> > > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3)

Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading> > > today

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste dear Raja,

 

It is not difficult to change at any age, don't say that. I believe

that if there is anything to let go, you will be able to do it. Just

do the remedies that you were prescribed today and... In few months

you shall see.

 

Take care and be well.

 

P.S. My father had a hell of a time only between 37 and 46 years old

(of course that he has a chart of his own:). Rest was perfect, his

career, salary, education, family relations... Anyway, he is safe

now. Yet that bad habit... I am so glad that at least you are much

more involved in spirituality, which makes things easier for you.

 

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21 wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> In fact you are right to the extent that I have had a difficult

life but not as difficult as my chart would suggest, only

inconsistent. When I was a child and had no worries about my future

an astrologer told my mother that in my lifetime, I  will never have

it so bad financially and, if i do get stuck someone will come and

give me the money. That memory is still very clear in my mind and it

has worked. I have had best of education in my field with

practically no support from anyone, stepped out of India with 20

dollars and have a lot to show for my efforts. So, it is not that

bad after all.

> Yes, i would describe my father to be someone like your father and

to an extent I have learnt to be a cautious person after him.

Further, that fear psychosis is as a result of Rahu/Ketu so it is

there in the chart, can't help it. But, I will try and learn to 'let

go', only it is difficult to change at this age.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

>

> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:23 AM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Sunil,

> Namaste

>

> You are most welcome, this is not just effort, I enjoy this very

> much.

>

> Well if you are looking for straight and honest answers for such

> questions, you are lucky since you already had a conversation

today

> with that kind of Jytisha. He gave you detailed answer on the

> gemstone. I can not tell you much about myself since I am not

giving

> readings yet. But I do have a plan to be fully straight only if I

am

> sure I can give proper remedies.

>

> You see, your Rasi chart is almost familiar to me. My father is

one

> month younger than you, and you share Chandra and Lagna Rasi. Of

> course, Kala Sarpa also... He had a difficult life, that is true,

> but now it is much better. He also has a bad habit of being unable

> to get rid of that constant tension inside even when there is no

> actual problem. When most of circumstances are well he still has a

> strong urge inside to find problem or a reason to be tensed. If

you

> recognize any of this in yourself and when you recognize that you

> behave by this same pattern, please remember me and stop yourself.

> Cut that unnecessary mechanism in the very root. You can feel much

> better in life, I assure you. One can always find a reason to be

> unhappy. (I said this same thing so many times to my father, he is

> still stubborn :)

>

> In case that mentioned link is not working:

>

> http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/

>

> And look for posts from 2004. Rest of instructions is as mentioned

> earlier.

>

> Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

> , Sunil Sharma

> <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Maja,

> > Thanks for the effort.

> > Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a

> ring made though.

> > This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I

have

> met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or

a

> difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you

are

> doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying

YES

> when I mean to say NO!

> > So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit

> the nail on the head.

> > Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

> >

> > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AM

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> >

> > Dear Sunil,

> > Namaste

> >

> > Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones

> > off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should

put

> on

> > your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart

is

> so

> > far pretty much in the category of " I don't know " and

> " you

> > should

> > rather perform mantras " .

> >

> > I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)

> >

> > Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to

> meet

> > less " confusing " charts in future (I mean just regarding

> gemstone

> > issue) after you read it.

> >

> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-

01T00%

> > 3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%

> > 3A00 & max-results=50

> >

> >

> > Right below " Narayana Dasa I: Basics " you can find article about

>

> > gemstones.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> >

> > , Sunil Sharma

> > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Maja,

> > > I fully appreciate your openness about various observations

made

> > so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts

> are

> > clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.

> > > My birth data is as follows:

> > > DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a

> hurry.

> > > Regards

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

> > >

> > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Dear Sunil,

> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do

with

> > > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I

> wear

> > > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very

> entertaining

> > > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for

past

> > > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring

> > that

> > > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not

suitable

> > for

> > > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I

> consider

> > > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months.

(If

> I

> > > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

> > > decision :)

> > >

> > > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look

at

> > > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as

> an

> > > opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am

not

> > > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it

> was

> > > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone

for

> > > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as

> they

> > > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

> > > complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather than

> to

> > ruin

> > > someone's life.)

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Maja

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > >

> > > , Sunil Sharma

> > > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Maja,

> > > > I have been reading each and every message on this thread

and,

> > at

> > > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

> > > However, things became quite clear later on especially with

your

> > > comments on antardasha.

> > > > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though

chandra

> > is

> > > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated

chandra

> > (in

> > > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with

exalted

> > > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining

moon

> in

> > > lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think

> KSY

> > > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

> > > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

> > > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been

> told

> > > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> > > > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am

> still

> > > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

> > > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold

pendant

> > in

> > > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it

> to

> > a

> > > pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have

since

> > > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it

quietens

> > my

> > > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in

my

> > > career or financial aspects.

> > > > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted

and

> > > left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

> have

> > > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few

> days

> > to

> > > reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> wrote:

> > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste dear Swami,

> > > >

> > > > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being

unfavorable

> > > Graha

> > > > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could

find

> > (and

> > > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking).

It

> is

> > > my

> > > > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and Maheshvara

> in

> > Shula

> > > dasa

> > > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I

> did

> > > say

> > > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear

> > gemstone

> > > > for it (either to increase or to decrease).

> > > >

> > > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding

> > determining

> > > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that

Ketu/Rahu

> > > could

> > > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if

> Rahu

> > > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about

> this

> > > > issue.

> > > >

> > > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> > > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with

a

> > > pearl

> > > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls.

What

> is

> > > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread

so

> > > far.

> > > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra

is

> > not

> > > > lording my trines.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " swami "

> <swami@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah

> > > > > Hari Om,

> > > > > Dear Maja,

> > > > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

> > > mention

> > > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't

> think

> > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives

> > Ketu

> > > as

> > > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > > > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8

> th

> > > would

> > > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > > > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma

> Planet.

> > > > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from

> Sun

> > > the

> > > > maheswar.

> > > > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > > > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup

>

> > are

> > > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic

> bal

> > > Jup

> > > > is Maheswar.

> > > > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > > > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > > > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone

> of

> > > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

> > > knowledge.If

> > > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > > > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to

> maheshwar

> > is

> > > > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so

> this

> > > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > > > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > > > > with regards.

> > > > > OM TATSAT

> > > > > ------------------------

> > > > > Swami_RCS

> > > > > -----------------------

> > > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that

> Divine

> >

> > > Being

> > > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our

> > understanding. "

> > > > >

> ----------------------------

> --

> > --

> > > --

> > > > -

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > majastrbacastro

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> > > > >

> > > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

>

> > > hand,

> > > > so

> > > > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in

> 9th...

> > > And

> > > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

>

> > > > considered

> > > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I

> > don't

> > > > think

> > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > > >

> > > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this

> time

> I

> > > can

> > > > not

> > > > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet

> > Mithuna

> > is

> > > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it.

> > That

> > > > means

> > > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna.

> 12th

> > > lord

> > > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna

> signifies

> > > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

> > > > thoughts...

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Maja

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > , RKM

> <rajeevmundra@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house

> which is

> > a

> > > > Royal

> > > > > Yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow

> in

> > your

> > > > > career.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if

> malefic

> >

> > > > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > house)

> > > > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th

> > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted

> is

> > > > working

> > > > > the best.

> > > > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and

>

> > overall

> > > > luck.

> > > > > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf

> ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > > > > RKM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

> > > <yasodakrsna@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have

> made

> > error.

> > > > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral

> by

> > one,

> > > Ruby

> > > > by

> > > > > two.

> > > > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended

> quality

> >

> > > > gemologist.

> > > > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by

> internet

> > > questions

> > > > but

> > > > > by paid

> > > > > > > services.

> > > > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and

> made

> > good

> > >

> > > > money

> > > > > by selling

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of

> yellow

> > > sapphire

> > > > as

> > > > > it works.

> > > > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for

> the

> > > prediction

> > > > to

> > > > > be true.

> > > > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if

> > sincere

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>

> > > > > > > vedic astrology ;

> > > >

> > > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's been more than four years that I

> studied

> > > different

> > > > books on

> > > > > gemstones

> > > > > > > and got advise from different good astrologers

> about

> > the

> > > > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As of now, some of the following theories are

> > present for

> > >

> > > > > choosing

> > > > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many

> > > astrologers)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) -

> > Anukool

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone

> worked

> > very

> > > well

> > > > for

> > > > > me. After

> > > > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my

> career

> > and

> > > also

> > > > my

> > > > > income

> > > > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4

> months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me

> by

> > any

> > > > astrologer

> > > > > (though I

> > > > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no

> such

> > book it

> > > was

> > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read

> approximately

> > 8-10

> > > > books

> > > > > on gem

> > > > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not

> > advised to

> > > > wear

> > > > > this gemstone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow

> Sapphire

> > and

> > > Red

> > > > Coral

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue

> > sapphire,

> > > that

> > > > made

> > > > > matters

> > > > > > > worse.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I

> will

> > tell

> > >

> > > > gem

> > > > > stone that

> > > > > > > worked for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute

> of

> > > Diamond).

> > > > I

> > > > > worn this in

> > > > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things

> started

> > working

> > > > positive

> > > > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing

> > exceptional in

> > > my

> > > > > personal / work

> > > > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may

> be

> > tried

> > > if

> > > > some

> > > > > one wants

> > > > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we

> can

> > know

> > > more

> > > > > about this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of

> the

> > planets

> > > > that

> > > > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that

> planet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in

> both

> > natal

> > >

> > > > chart

> > > > > and bhava

> > > > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3

> is

> > > benefic

> > > > for

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main

> > gemstone of

> > > > that

> > > > > planet and

> > > > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was

> found

> > in

> > > step

> > > 3

> > > > is

> > > > > malefic,

> > > > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet

> and

> > wear

> > > it

> > > > in

> > > > > the left hand.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The above was just a thought that came to my

> mind

> > and if

> > > > some

> > > > > one wants to

> > > > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly

> share

> > with

> > > > other

> > > > > members, if

> > > > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> said

> > > that the human

> > > > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading

> > > > today

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Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

In previous email I was mistaken about your name. Few minutes prior

to that one I was sending reply to another list member:)

 

Of course, that reply on the list was for you.

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21 wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> In fact you are right to the extent that I have had a difficult

life but not as difficult as my chart would suggest, only

inconsistent. When I was a child and had no worries about my future

an astrologer told my mother that in my lifetime, I  will never have

it so bad financially and, if i do get stuck someone will come and

give me the money. That memory is still very clear in my mind and it

has worked. I have had best of education in my field with

practically no support from anyone, stepped out of India with 20

dollars and have a lot to show for my efforts. So, it is not that

bad after all.

> Yes, i would describe my father to be someone like your father and

to an extent I have learnt to be a cautious person after him.

Further, that fear psychosis is as a result of Rahu/Ketu so it is

there in the chart, can't help it. But, I will try and learn to 'let

go', only it is difficult to change at this age.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

>

> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:23 AM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Dear Sunil,

> Namaste

>

> You are most welcome, this is not just effort, I enjoy this very

> much.

>

> Well if you are looking for straight and honest answers for such

> questions, you are lucky since you already had a conversation

today

> with that kind of Jytisha. He gave you detailed answer on the

> gemstone. I can not tell you much about myself since I am not

giving

> readings yet. But I do have a plan to be fully straight only if I

am

> sure I can give proper remedies.

>

> You see, your Rasi chart is almost familiar to me. My father is

one

> month younger than you, and you share Chandra and Lagna Rasi. Of

> course, Kala Sarpa also... He had a difficult life, that is true,

> but now it is much better. He also has a bad habit of being unable

> to get rid of that constant tension inside even when there is no

> actual problem. When most of circumstances are well he still has a

> strong urge inside to find problem or a reason to be tensed. If

you

> recognize any of this in yourself and when you recognize that you

> behave by this same pattern, please remember me and stop yourself.

> Cut that unnecessary mechanism in the very root. You can feel much

> better in life, I assure you. One can always find a reason to be

> unhappy. (I said this same thing so many times to my father, he is

> still stubborn :)

>

> In case that mentioned link is not working:

>

> http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/

>

> And look for posts from 2004. Rest of instructions is as mentioned

> earlier.

>

> Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

> , Sunil Sharma

> <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Maja,

> > Thanks for the effort.

> > Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a

> ring made though.

> > This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I

have

> met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or

a

> difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you

are

> doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying

YES

> when I mean to say NO!

> > So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit

> the nail on the head.

> > Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

> >

> > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AM

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> >

> > Dear Sunil,

> > Namaste

> >

> > Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones

> > off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should

put

> on

> > your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart

is

> so

> > far pretty much in the category of " I don't know " and

> " you

> > should

> > rather perform mantras " .

> >

> > I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)

> >

> > Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to

> meet

> > less " confusing " charts in future (I mean just regarding

> gemstone

> > issue) after you read it.

> >

> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-

01T00%

> > 3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%

> > 3A00 & max-results=50

> >

> >

> > Right below " Narayana Dasa I: Basics " you can find article about

>

> > gemstones.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> >

> > , Sunil Sharma

> > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Maja,

> > > I fully appreciate your openness about various observations

made

> > so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts

> are

> > clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.

> > > My birth data is as follows:

> > > DOB: 21st September 1955

> > > TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> > > POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> > > Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a

> hurry.

> > > Regards

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:

> > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

> > >

> > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Dear Sunil,

> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do

with

> > > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I

> wear

> > > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very

> entertaining

> > > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for

past

> > > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring

> > that

> > > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not

suitable

> > for

> > > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I

> consider

> > > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months.

(If

> I

> > > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

> > > decision :)

> > >

> > > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look

at

> > > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as

> an

> > > opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am

not

> > > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it

> was

> > > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone

for

> > > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as

> they

> > > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

> > > complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather than

> to

> > ruin

> > > someone's life.)

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Maja

> > >

> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > >

> > >

> > > , Sunil Sharma

> > > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Maja,

> > > > I have been reading each and every message on this thread

and,

> > at

> > > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

> > > However, things became quite clear later on especially with

your

> > > comments on antardasha.

> > > > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though

chandra

> > is

> > > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated

chandra

> > (in

> > > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with

exalted

> > > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining

moon

> in

> > > lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think

> KSY

> > > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

> > > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

> > > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been

> told

> > > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> > > > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am

> still

> > > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

> > > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold

pendant

> > in

> > > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it

> to

> > a

> > > pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have

since

> > > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it

quietens

> > my

> > > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in

my

> > > career or financial aspects.

> > > > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted

and

> > > left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

> have

> > > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few

> days

> > to

> > > reply! I am not in a hurry.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sunil

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> wrote:

> > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > >

> > > > Namaste dear Swami,

> > > >

> > > > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being

unfavorable

> > > Graha

> > > > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could

find

> > (and

> > > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking).

It

> is

> > > my

> > > > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and Maheshvara

> in

> > Shula

> > > dasa

> > > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I

> did

> > > say

> > > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear

> > gemstone

> > > > for it (either to increase or to decrease).

> > > >

> > > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding

> > determining

> > > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that

Ketu/Rahu

> > > could

> > > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if

> Rahu

> > > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about

> this

> > > > issue.

> > > >

> > > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> > > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with

a

> > > pearl

> > > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls.

What

> is

> > > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread

so

> > > far.

> > > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra

is

> > not

> > > > lording my trines.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Maja

> > > >

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " swami "

> <swami@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > > > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah

> > > > > Hari Om,

> > > > > Dear Maja,

> > > > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

> > > mention

> > > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't

> think

> > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives

> > Ketu

> > > as

> > > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > > > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8

> th

> > > would

> > > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > > > > The sign lord is SUN.

> > > > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma

> Planet.

> > > > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from

> Sun

> > > the

> > > > maheswar.

> > > > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > > > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup

>

> > are

> > > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic

> bal

> > > Jup

> > > > is Maheswar.

> > > > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > > > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > > > > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone

> of

> > > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

> > > knowledge.If

> > > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > > > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > > > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to

> maheshwar

> > is

> > > > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so

> this

> > > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > > > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > > > > with regards.

> > > > > OM TATSAT

> > > > > ------------------------

> > > > > Swami_RCS

> > > > > -----------------------

> > > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that

> Divine

> >

> > > Being

> > > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our

> > understanding. "

> > > > >

> ----------------------------

> --

> > --

> > > --

> > > > -

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > majastrbacastro

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> > > > >

> > > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

>

> > > hand,

> > > > so

> > > > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhava in

> 9th...

> > > And

> > > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

>

> > > > considered

> > > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I

> > don't

> > > > think

> > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).

> > > > >

> > > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this

> time

> I

> > > can

> > > > not

> > > > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet

> > Mithuna

> > is

> > > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it.

> > That

> > > > means

> > > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna.

> 12th

> > > lord

> > > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna

> signifies

> > > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

> > > > thoughts...

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Maja

> > > > >

> > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > >

> > > > > , RKM

> <rajeevmundra@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house

> which is

> > a

> > > > Royal

> > > > > Yoga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow

> in

> > your

> > > > > career.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if

> malefic

> >

> > > > > debiliated in 12th

> > > > > > house)

> > > > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of 8th

> > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted

> is

> > > > working

> > > > > the best.

> > > > > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and

>

> > overall

> > > > luck.

> > > > > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf

> ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ

> > > > > > RKM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

> > > <yasodakrsna@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have

> made

> > error.

> > > > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral

> by

> > one,

> > > Ruby

> > > > by

> > > > > two.

> > > > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by recommended

> quality

> >

> > > > gemologist.

> > > > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by

> internet

> > > questions

> > > > but

> > > > > by paid

> > > > > > > services.

> > > > > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and

> made

> > good

> > >

> > > > money

> > > > > by selling

> > > > > > > it.

> > > > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of

> yellow

> > > sapphire

> > > > as

> > > > > it works.

> > > > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for

> the

> > > prediction

> > > > to

> > > > > be true.

> > > > > > > Yasoda.

> > > > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if

> > sincere

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000@>

> > > > > > > vedic astrology ;

> > > >

> > > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's been more than four years that I

> studied

> > > different

> > > > books on

> > > > > gemstones

> > > > > > > and got advise from different good astrologers

> about

> > the

> > > > > gemstone. But none

> > > > > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As of now, some of the following theories are

> > present for

> > >

> > > > > choosing

> > > > > > > gemstone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended by many

> > > astrologers)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) -

> > Anukool

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone

> worked

> > very

> > > well

> > > > for

> > > > > me. After

> > > > > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my

> career

> > and

> > > also

> > > > my

> > > > > income

> > > > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4

> months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me

> by

> > any

> > > > astrologer

> > > > > (though I

> > > > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no

> such

> > book it

> > > was

> > > > > mentioned that

> > > > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read

> approximately

> > 8-10

> > > > books

> > > > > on gem

> > > > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not

> > advised to

> > > > wear

> > > > > this gemstone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow

> Sapphire

> > and

> > > Red

> > > > Coral

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue

> > sapphire,

> > > that

> > > > made

> > > > > matters

> > > > > > > worse.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I

> will

> > tell

> > >

> > > > gem

> > > > > stone that

> > > > > > > worked for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute

> of

> > > Diamond).

> > > > I

> > > > > worn this in

> > > > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things

> started

> > working

> > > > positive

> > > > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing

> > exceptional in

> > > my

> > > > > personal / work

> > > > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may

> be

> > tried

> > > if

> > > > some

> > > > > one wants

> > > > > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we

> can

> > know

> > > more

> > > > > about this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of

> the

> > planets

> > > > that

> > > > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > > > > house moves to some other house, ignore that

> planet.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in

> both

> > natal

> > >

> > > > chart

> > > > > and bhava

> > > > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3

> is

> > > benefic

> > > > for

> > > > > your

> > > > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main

> > gemstone of

> > > > that

> > > > > planet and

> > > > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was

> found

> > in

> > > step

> > > 3

> > > > is

> > > > > malefic,

> > > > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet

> and

> > wear

> > > it

> > > > in

> > > > > the left hand.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The above was just a thought that came to my

> mind

> > and if

> > > > some

> > > > > one wants to

> > > > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly

> share

> > with

> > > > other

> > > > > members, if

> > > > > > > this method works for you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> said

> > > that the human

> > > > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading

> > > > today

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

 

1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate it.

Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL which

afflicts career life and skills of native.

2. Neck influences thinking.

3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in kalachakra

scheme.

4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in lagna is

corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow Sanjayji who

also looks at lord when bhava is empty.

6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in lagna,

fifth and tenth eclipses the others.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

rajarshi nandy pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would

be great if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not

understand.

 

1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to

yuti causing exchange of effects?

2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its

significance?

 

3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects

of shani. Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought

it was for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact

rule.

 

4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In

that case shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple?

Why is the Krishna idol donation neeeded?

 

Thanks in advance,.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

"This

above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

wrote:

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

 

 

 

kleem namah

narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil  , Namaskar

 

Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Rafal Gendarz pisze:

 

 

kleem namah

narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil, Namaskar

 

1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative,

but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect.

Coral has less side-effects here.

2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.

3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12

from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and

then improvement (navamsa).

5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the

last mail.

 

Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken

and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.

 

Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

Namaskar

Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments,

not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject

Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond

in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed

too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.

I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in

gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this.

Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my

Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it

appropriate?

As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the

beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but

nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can,

and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to

please give me a clear idea what I can do.

Regards

Sunil

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the strength

period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ >

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that

you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for

me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

decision :)

 

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was

not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin

someone's life.)

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at

the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is

not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

(presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my

temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and

left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste dear Swami,

>

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

Graha

> in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and

> that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

my

> mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

dasa

> somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

say

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone

> for it (either to increase or to decrease).

>

> So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

could

> reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> issue.

>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

pearl

> and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

far.

> Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not

> lording my trines.

>

>

Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

mention

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

as

> maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

would

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

the

> maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are

> both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

Jup

> is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

knowledge.If

> worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is

> not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> last suggestion may be taken just a logical

aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> >

> > -

> > majastrbacastro

> >

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

 

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

hand,

> so

> > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th...

And

> > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> considered

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't

> think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> >

> > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

can

> not

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That

> means

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

lord

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

>

thoughts...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > >

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> Royal

> > Yoga.

> > >

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your

> > career.

> > >

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > >

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > >

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> working

> > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall

> luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÃÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÃ

> > > RKM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby

> by

> > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality

> gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions

> but

>

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

 

> money

> > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

sapphire

> as

> > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

prediction

> to

> > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

 

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different

> books on

> > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

 

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

well

> for

> > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

also

> my

> > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> astrologer

 

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

was

> > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> books

> > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> wear

> > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red

> Coral

> > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

that

> made

> > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

 

> gem

> > stone that

> >

> > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

Diamond).

> I

> > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my

> > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if

> some

> > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

more

> > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

 

> chart

> > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic

> for

> > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> that

> > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step

3

> is

> > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it

> in

> > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> some

> > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

 

> other

> > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

 

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today>

 

 

 

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

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Dear Rafal,

 

Thannks a lot for explaining. I understood some new points from this mail of yours which I shall try and apply in charts.

 

One is to see the lord of the anuvaba rasi in case no planets are there.

 

Second is 12th planet from AL will affect 4th from itself as per kalchakra.

 

Donation of Idol is important in case badhakesh is in lagna.

 

And neck influences thinking.

 

Thanks.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) , "sohamsa" <sohamsa >Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 11:00 PM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajarishi, Namaskar1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate it. Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL which afflicts career life and skills of native.2. Neck influences thinking.3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in kalachakra scheme.4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in lagna is corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow Sanjayji who also looks at lord when bhava is empty.6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in lagna, fifth and tenth eclipses the others.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would be great if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not understand.

 

1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti causing exchange of effects?

2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its significance?

 

3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of shani. Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought it was for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact rule.

 

4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that case shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why is the Krishna idol donation neeeded?

 

Thanks in advance,.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

"This above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sunil , NamaskarDiamond is forbidden due to parivartana.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comRafal Gendarz pisze:

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Sunil, Namaskar1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative, but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and then improvement (navamsa).5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the last mail.Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of idol/picture related to Sri

Krishna.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji, NamaskarThank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments, not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this. Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it appropriate?As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea

what I can do. RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sunil , NamaskarYou cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.You can wear only Coral.Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji sincerly!Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comSunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.My birth data is as follows:DOB: 21st September 1955TOB: 10:32 A.M.POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ > wrote:

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ >[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AMOm Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong decision :)

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin someone's life.)

Regards,

Maja

Hari Om Tat Sat

, Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations. However, things became quite clear later on especially with your comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Namaste dear Swami,

> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable Graha > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is my > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula dasa > somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did say > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu could > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this > issue. > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a pearl > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is > this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so far. > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not > lording my trines.

> >

Regards,

> Maja

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your mention > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu as > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th would > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun the > maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal Jup > is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish knowledge.If > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> > > > - > > majastrbacastro > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left hand, > so > > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th... And > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is > considered > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't > think > > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I can > not > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That > means > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th lord > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just >

thoughts...

> > > > Regards,

> > Maja

> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a > Royal > > Yoga.

> > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your > > career.

> > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic > > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is > working > > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall > luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > > > > > > > > -- > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÃÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÃ

> > > RKM

> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby > by > > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality > gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions > but >

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

> money > > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow sapphire > as > > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the prediction > to > > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different > books on > > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the > > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very well > for > > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and also > my > > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any > astrologer

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it was > > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10 > books > > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to > wear > > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red > Coral > > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire, that > made > > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

> gem > > stone that

> > > > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of Diamond). > I > > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working > positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my > > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if > some > > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know more > > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets > that > > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

> chart > > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic > for > > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of > that > > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step 3 > is > > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it > in > > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if > some > > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

> other > > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

> today

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>

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Rajarishi  , Namaskar

 

yes, you got it.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

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rafal

 

 

rajarshi nandy pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

Thannks a lot for explaining. I understood some new points

from this mail of yours which I shall try and apply in charts.

 

One is to see the lord of the anuvaba rasi in case no

planets are there.

 

Second is 12th planet from AL will affect 4th from itself as

per kalchakra.

 

Donation of Idol is important in case badhakesh is in lagna.

 

And neck influences thinking.

 

Thanks.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

"This

above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

wrote:

 

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

, "sohamsa"

<sohamsa >

Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 11:00 PM

 

 

 

kleem namah

narasimhaaya

Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

 

1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate it.

Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL which

afflicts career life and skills of native.

2. Neck influences thinking.

3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in kalachakra

scheme.

4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in lagna is

corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow Sanjayji who

also looks at lord when bhava is empty.

6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in lagna,

fifth and tenth eclipses the others.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

rajarshi nandy pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal,

 

I was trying to understand your advise to Mr

Sunil. It would be great if you could kindly clarify some points which

I could not understand.

 

1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord,

due to yuti causing exchange of effects?

2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck?

What is its significance?

 

3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give

effects of shani. Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i

thought it was for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the

exact rule.

 

4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa

badhaka. In that case shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to

nagraj temple? Why is the Krishna idol donation neeeded?

 

Thanks in advance,.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

"This

above all: to thine own self be true!" - Hamlet

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

wrote:

Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ wp.pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

 

 

 

kleem

namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil  , Namaskar

 

Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Rafal Gendarz pisze:

 

 

kleem

namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil, Namaskar

 

1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is negative,

but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so its not perfect.

Coral has less side-effects here.

2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.

3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs also in 12

from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks (rasi) and

then improvement (navamsa).

5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have given in the

last mail.

 

Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should be broken

and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.

 

Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied by gift of

idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.

com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

Namaskar

Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your comments,

not just about me, but even regarding other person/subject

Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing a Diamond

in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should that be removed

too? Not that I see any visible difference after wearing it.

I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my case) in

gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this.

Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to boost my

Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to Rahu's 9th aspect. Is it

appropriate?

As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period since the

beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains now and then but

nothing substantial. I would love to change the situation, if I can,

and solicit your advice in this regard. If you will be kind enough to

please give me a clear idea what I can do.

Regards

Sunil

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

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Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Sunil , Namaskar

 

You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in Lagna. Its

good to donate Krishna idol/picture to temple/spiritual person.

 

You can wear only Coral.

 

Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in third/ninth - only in

dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand with fortune-gem.

 

Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and worship Hanumanji

sincerly!

 

Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as its the strength

period (neechavastha) , after initial struggle there should be

improvement due to exaltation in d9. This period works for spirituality

a lot due to karakaamsa position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra

and being GK it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that Mo in Lg

eclipse Bu in 12H).

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

Sunil Sharma pisze:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Maja,

I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made so

far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts are clear

to you. To me all of them look confusing.

My birth data is as follows:

DOB: 21st September 1955

TOB: 10:32 A.M.

POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a hurry.

Regards

Sunil

 

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

> wrote:

 

majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@

>

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil,

Namaste

 

My decision

to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with

procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just that I wear

jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very entertaining

to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past

month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring that

you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable for

me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I consider

it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If I

suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong

decision :)

 

Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at

whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as an

opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this thread I am not

quite skilled with this issue, so have this

in mind (Though it was

not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

gemstone for

Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as they

often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are

complicated I choose to say "I don't know" rather than to ruin

someone's life.)

 

Regards,

Maja

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

, Sunil Sharma

<sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Maja,

> I have been reading each and every message on this thread and, at

the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's observations.

However, things became quite clear later on especially with your

comments on antardasha.

> Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra is

not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra (in

Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted

Atmakaraka

Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon in

lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is

Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to

debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have been told

by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).

> Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am still

wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger

(presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant in

the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it to a

pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since

removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens my

temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my

career or financial aspects.

> Now, my real question to you is

this. Moon being afflicted and

left hand to be used (for the effect to be reduced), I should

have

worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few days to

reply! I am not in a hurry.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)

>

> Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste dear Swami,

>

> Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable

Graha

> in this chart, those mentioned were the only one I could find (and

> that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It is

my

> mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra and Maheshvara in Shula

dasa

> somewhere in my

memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

say

> that I sincerely doubt it is of any

significance to wear gemstone

> for it (either to increase or to decrease).

>

> So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding determining

> Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu

could

> reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if Rahu

> itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about this

> issue.

>

> P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one

> completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ring with a

pearl

> and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What is

> this today...? I was never this much involved in any thread so

far.

> Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandra is not

> lording my trines.

>

>

Regards,

> Maja

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

>

> --- In

, "swami" <swami@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> > Hari Om,

> > Dear Maja,

> > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck at your

mention

> of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

as

> maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so count to 8 th

would

> be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.

> > The sign lord is SUN.

> > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomes Brahma Planet.

>

> In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 th from Sun

the

> maheswar.

> > Eight

lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketu and jup are

> both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as per naisargic bal

Jup

> is Maheswar.

> > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.

> > Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gem stone of

> planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish

knowledge.If

> worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedic shahstra.

> > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to maheshwar is

> not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so this

> last suggestion may be taken just a logical

aplication.

> > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> > with regards.

> > OM TATSAT

> >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

> > Swami_RCS

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

--

> -

> >

> > -

> > majastrbacastro

> >

> > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> >

> > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >

 

> > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on his left

hand,

> so

> > that means he was weakening his lord of

10th bhava in 9th...

And

> > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava (which is

> considered

> > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I don't

> think

> > that this latter one could be of any significance) .

> >

> > I really dislike complicating simple things, but this time I

can

> not

> > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru in it. That

> means

> > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his Arudha Lagna. 12th

lord

> > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna signifies

> > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These are just

>

thoughts...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Maja

> >

> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >

> > --- In

, RKM <rajeevmundra@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj

> > >

> > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house which is a

> Royal

> > Yoga.

> > >

> > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped you grow in your

> > career.

> > >

> > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.

> > >

> > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon. -ve.

> > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but ok if malefic

> > debiliated in 12th

> > > house)

> > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out

of 8th house.

> > >

> > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively unafflicted is

> working

> > the

best.

> > > Suns stone would probably give you better health and overall

> luck.

> > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÃÒÄf ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÃ

> > > RKM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda krsna

<yasodakrsna@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Neeraj,

> > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC have made error.

> > > > Particularly in my case was recommended Coral by one,

Ruby

> by

> > two.

> > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

recommended quality

> gemologist.

> > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by internet

questions

> but

>

> by paid

> > > > services.

> > > > The good thing was the price of gold soared and made good

 

> money

> > by selling

> > > > it.

> > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation of yellow

sapphire

> as

> > it works.

> > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devata for the

prediction

> to

> > be true.

> > > > Yasoda.

> > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstone if sincere

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> > > > vedic astrology;

 

>

> > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

Choosing Gemstones

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's been more than four years that I studied

different

> books on

> > gemstones

> > > > and got advise from different good astrologers about the

> > gemstone. But none

> > > > of them gave very good result.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As of now, some of the following theories are present for

 

> > choosing

> > > > gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

(recommended by many

astrologers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and 9) - Anukool

> > >

>

> > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> > > >

> > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > However, I recently found that one gemstone worked very

well

> for

> > me. After

> > > > wearing that I got a very good results in my career and

also

> my

> > income

> > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4 months.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended to me by any

> astrologer

 

> > (though I

> > > > consulted several ones in person) and in no such book it

was

> > mentioned that

> > >

> I should choose this gemstone. I read approximately 8-10

> books

> > on gem

> > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I was not advised to

> wear

> > this gemstone.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow Sapphire and

Red

> Coral

> > by

> > > > different astrologers. One even advised blue sapphire,

that

> made

> > matters

> > > > worse.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and then I will tell

 

> gem

> > stone that

> >

> > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> > > >

> > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> > > >

> > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon (Substitute of

Diamond).

> I

> > worn this in

> > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things started working

> positive

> > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing exceptional in

my

> > personal / work

> > > > life. Now there are somethings to be noted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. It's not lord of

trines.

> > > >

> > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

>

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way that may be tried

if

> some

> > one wants

> > > > to try. Please share your results, so that we can know

more

> > about this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9 house.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If any of the planets

> that

> > were in 1,5,9

> > > > house moves to

some other house, ignore that planet.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines (1,5,9) in both natal

 

> chart

> > and

bhava

> > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu, ketu)

> > > >

> > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till step 3 is

benefic

> for

> > your

> > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the main gemstone of

> that

> > planet and

> > > > wear it in the right hand.

> > > >

> > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that was found in

step

3

> is

> > malefic,

> > > > then choose the substitute gem for that planet and wear

it

> in

> > the left hand.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> The above was just a thought that came to my mind and if

> some

> > one wants to

> > > > try it, they may do so for experiment. Kindly share with

 

> other

> > members, if

> > > > this method works for you.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj Gupta

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

 

that the human

> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading

> today>

 

 

 

------------ --------- --------- ------

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

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Dear Maja,Thanks for your advice. I will, sincerely, try to change myself. So help me God!As for being involved spiritually, of course I am a brahmin and born in Prayag (Allahabad) too. That I went astray and did all things 'unbrahmin' is another matter. So, I am a born again (as they say in Christianity) brahmin now. RegardsSunil--- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil) Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 9:48 AMOm Gurave NamahNamaste dear Raja,It is not difficult to change at any age, don't say that. I believe that

if there is anything to let go, you will be able to do it. Just do the remedies that you were prescribed today and... In few months you shall see. Take care and be well.P.S. My father had a hell of a time only between 37 and 46 years old (of course that he has a chart of his own:). Rest was perfect, his career, salary, education, family relations... Anyway, he is safe now. Yet that bad habit... I am so glad that at least you are much more involved in spirituality, which makes things easier for you.Regards,MajaHari Om Tat Sat , Sunil Sharma <sunilsharma21 wrote:>> Dear Maja,> In fact you are right to the extent that I have had a difficult life but not as difficult as my chart would suggest, only inconsistent. When I was a child and had no worries about my future an astrologer told my mother that

in my lifetime, I will never have it so bad financially and, if i do get stuck someone will come and give me the money. That memory is still very clear in my mind and it has worked. I have had best of education in my field with practically no support from anyone, stepped out of India with 20 dollars and have a lot to show for my efforts. So, it is not that bad after all.> Yes, i would describe my father to be someone like your father and to an extent I have learnt to be a cautious person after him. Further, that fear psychosis is as a result of Rahu/Ketu so it is there in the chart, can't help it. But, I will try and learn to 'let go', only it is difficult to change at this age.> Regards> Sunil> > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro wrote:> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones (Sunil)> > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:23 AM> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Sunil,> Namaste> > You are most welcome, this is not just effort, I enjoy this very > much.> > Well if you are looking for straight and honest answers for such > questions, you are lucky since you already had a conversation today > with that kind of Jytisha. He gave you detailed answer on the > gemstone. I can not tell you much about myself since I am not giving > readings yet. But I do have a plan to be fully straight only if I am > sure I can give proper remedies. > > You see, your Rasi chart is almost familiar to me. My father is one > month younger than you, and you share Chandra and Lagna Rasi. Of > course, Kala Sarpa also... He had a difficult life, that is true, >

but now it is much better. He also has a bad habit of being unable > to get rid of that constant tension inside even when there is no > actual problem. When most of circumstances are well he still has a > strong urge inside to find problem or a reason to be tensed. If you > recognize any of this in yourself and when you recognize that you > behave by this same pattern, please remember me and stop yourself. > Cut that unnecessary mechanism in the very root. You can feel much > better in life, I assure you. One can always find a reason to be > unhappy. (I said this same thing so many times to my father, he is > still stubborn :)> > In case that mentioned link is not working:> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/> > And look for posts from 2004. Rest of instructions is as mentioned > earlier.> > Regards,> Maja>

> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > , Sunil Sharma > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> >> > Hi Maja,> > Thanks for the effort.> > Diamond is already off. I can't do much about Coral till I get a > ring made though.> > This is one thing I have always faced with many astrologers I have > met. They will never tell the person straight if they see a bad or a > difficult chart and keep him hoping. While I am not implying you are > doing that, I do not to that line of action of saying YES > when I mean to say NO!> > So, I am still looking for that elusive one person who will hit > the nail on the head.> > Regards> > Sunil> > > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@> wrote:> > majastrbacastro

<majastrbacastro@>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)> > > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:16 AM> > > > Om Gurave Namah,> > > > Dear Sunil,> > Namaste> > > > Just when I was about to advise you to remove all the gemstones > > off... Well now you even have the answer which one you should put > on > > your hand. I could hardly help you that much. To me your chart is > so > > far pretty much in the category of "I don't know" and> "you> > should > > rather perform mantras".> > > > I suppose that there are no more questions for me, right? :)> > > > Anyway, there is one interesting link that could provide you to > meet > > less "confusing" charts in future (I mean

just regarding> gemstone > > issue) after you read it.> > > > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2004-01-01T00%> > 3A00%3A00%2B08%3A00 & updated-max=2005-01-01T00%3A00%3A00%2B08%> > 3A00 & max-results=50 > > > > > > Right below "Narayana Dasa I: Basics" you can find articleabout> > > gemstones.> > > > Regards,> > Maja> > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > , Sunil Sharma > > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Maja,> > > I fully appreciate your openness about various observations made > > so far. At least you are better than me when you say few charts > are > > clear to you. To me all of them look confusing.> > >

My birth data is as follows:> > > DOB: 21st September 1955> > > TOB: 10:32 A.M.> > > POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)> > > Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not in a > hurry.> > > Regards> > > Sunil> > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>wrote:> > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)> > > > > > Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Sunil,> > > Namaste> > > > > > My decision to wear that gift I received has nothing to do with > > > procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is just

that I > wear > > > jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it very > entertaining > > > to learn about gemstones (not just for past two days), for past > > > month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same kind of ring > > that > > > you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is not suitable > > for > > > me when I was about to buy one. What happened yesterday I > consider > > > it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for few months. (If > I > > > suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it was a wrong > > > decision :)> > > > > > Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would like to look at > > > whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to take it just as > an > > > opinion. As I have said on the

beginning of this thread I am not > > > quite skilled with this issue, so have this in mind (Though it > was > > > not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper gemstone for > > > Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so confusing as > they > > > often could be in various charts. When positions in chart are > > > complicated I choose to say "I don't know" ratherthan> to> > ruin > > > someone's life.)> > > > > > Regards,> > > Maja> > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > , Sunil Sharma > > > <sunilsharma21@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Maja,> > > > I have been reading each and every message on this thread and,

> > at > > > the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj'sobservations. > > > However, things became quite clear later on especially with your > > > comments on antardasha.> > > > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even though chandra > > is > > > not lording my trines) caught my attention. Debilitated chandra > > (in > > > Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my chart with exalted > > > Atmakaraka Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining moon > in > > > lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th house spoiling Jupiter (I think > KSY > > > or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the net result is > > > Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already afflicted due to > > > debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something I have

been > told > > > by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the same time).> > > > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond to me. I am > still > > > wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand ring finger > > > (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral in gold pendant > > in > > > the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier but changed it > to > > a > > > pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string. I have since > > > removed it but I must say that whenever I wear Pearl it quietens > > my > > > temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any improvement in my > > > career or financial aspects.> > > > Now, my real question to you is this. Moon being afflicted and > > > left hand to be used (for the effect

to be reduced), I should > have > > > worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You may take few > days > > to > > > reply! I am not in a hurry.> > > > Regards> > > > Sunil> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro<majastrbacastro@>> wrote:> > > > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@>> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Swami)> > > > > > > > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM> > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > > > > > Namaste dear Swami,> > > > > > > > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra being unfavorable > > > Graha > > > > in this chart, those

mentioned were the only one I could find > > (and > > > > that was after quite some time spent in serious thinking). It > is > > > my > > > > mistake to "equalize" effects of Rudra andMaheshvara> in> > Shula > > > dasa > > > > somewhere in my memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway,I > did > > > say > > > > that I sincerely doubt it is of any significance to wear > > gemstone > > > > for it (either to increase or to decrease). > > > > > > > > So far I was informed about just a few rules regarding > > determining > > > > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought that Ketu/Rahu > > > could > > > > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th from AK or if> Rahu

> > > > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful information about > this > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I received one> > > > completely unexpected gift today afternoon: silver ringwith a > > > pearl > > > > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with pearls. What > is > > > > this today...? I was never this much involved in any threadso > > > far. > > > > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even though Chandrais > > not > > > > lording my trines.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Maja> > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > , "swami"> <swami@>> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > || Om Gurave Namah ||> > > > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah> > > > > Hari Om,> > > > > Dear Maja,> > > > > Your insights are great, incidently I was struck atyour > > > mention > > > > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara... but I don't> think > > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > > > I could not understand How sukra is maheshwar.J horagives > > Ketu > > > as > > > > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.> > > > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so countto 8>

th > > > would > > > > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to Leo.> > > > > The sign lord is SUN.> > > > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN becomesBrahma > Planet.> > > > > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and 12 thfrom > Sun > > > the > > > > maheswar.> > > > > Eight lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.> > > > > We apply parashar strength to determne strenth.Ketuand jup> > > are > > > > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as pernaisargic > bal > > > Jup > > > > is Maheswar.> > > > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.> > > > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is discussed.> > > > >

Maheswar planet is associated wih knowledge .So Gemstone> of > > > > planet that is maheswar if put in left should diminish > > > knowledge.If > > > > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of vedicshahstra.> > > > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.> > > > > By the way, influence of wearing planet related to> maheshwar > > is > > > > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could access, so> this > > > > last suggestion may be taken just a logical aplication.> > > > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.> > > > > with regards.> > > > > OM TATSAT> > > > >------------------------> > > > > Swami_RCS > > > >

>-----------------------> > > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence ofthat> Divine> > > > > Being > > > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our > > understanding."> > > > >> ----------------------------> --> > --> > > --> > > > -> > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > majastrbacastro > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),> > > > > > > > > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing zircon on hisleft> > > > hand, > > > > so > > > > > that means he was weakening his lord of 10th bhavain > 9th... > > > And > > > > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd bhava(which is> > > > > considered > > > > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara...but I > > don't > > > > think > > > > > that this latter one could be of any significance).> > > > > > > > > > I really dislike complicating simple things, butthis> time > I > > > can > > > > not > > > > > help

myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in Dhanu,yet> > Mithuna > > is > > > > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and Guru init. > > That > > > > means > > > > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his ArudhaLagna.> 12th > > > lord > > > > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha Lagna > signifies > > > > > expenses. He was weakening this one also. These arejust > > > > thoughts...> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Maja> > > > > > > > > > Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > > > > > > , RKM> <rajeevmundra@>> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > >

> > > Dear Neeraj> > > > > > > > > > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th house> which is> > a > > > > Royal > > > > > Yoga.> > > > > > > > > > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have helped yougrow> in > > your > > > > > career.> > > > > > > > > > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very suitable.> > > > > > > > > > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and Moon.-ve.> > > > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve (but okif> malefic> > > > > > > debiliated in 12th> > > > > > house)> > > > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.> >

> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just out of8th> > house.> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relativelyunafflicted> is > > > > working > > > > > the best.> > > > > > Suns stone would probably give you betterhealth and> > > overall > > > > luck.> > > > > > But venus will cause growth in career.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ÒÅò ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÄf> ÒÄ´ÒăÒIJÒĬÒÄÐ> > > > > > RKM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda

krsna> > > <yasodakrsna@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj,> > > > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJChave> made> > error.> > > > > > > Particularly in my case was recommendedCoral> by> > one,> > > Ruby > > > > by > > > > > two.> > > > > > > Both gemstones were purchased byrecommended> quality> > > > > > gemologist.> > > > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by> internet> > > questions > > > > but > > > > > by paid> > > > > > > services.> > > > > > > The good thing was the price of

goldsoared and> made> > good> > > > > > > money > > > > > by selling> > > > > > > it.> > > > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendationof> yellow > > > sapphire > > > > as > > > > > it works.> > > > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their Devatafor> the > > > prediction > > > > to > > > > > be true.> > > > > > > Yasoda.> > > > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than gemstoneif> > sincere> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj

Gupta<gupta_neeraj_2000@>> > > > > > > vedic astrology ; > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] ChoosingGemstones> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It's been more than four years that I> studied> > > different > > > > books on > > > > > gemstones> > > > > > > and got advise from different goodastrologers> about> > the > > > > > gemstone. But none> > > > > > > of them gave

very good result.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > As of now, some of the following theoriesare> > present for> > > > > > > > choosing> > > > > > > gemstone.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord (recommended bymany> > > astrologers)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5, and9) -> > Anukool> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD

lord> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > However, I recently found that onegemstone> worked> > very > > > well > > > > for > > > > > me. After> > > > > > > wearing that I got a very good results inmy> career> > and > > > also > > > > my > > > > > income> > > > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4> months.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommendedto

me> by> > any > > > > astrologer > > > > > (though I> > > > > > > consulted several ones in person) and inno> such> > book it > > > was > > > > > mentioned that> > > > > > > I should choose this gemstone. I read> approximately> > 8-10 > > > > books > > > > > on gem> > > > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I wasnot> > advised to > > > > wear > > > > > this gemstone.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby, Yellow> Sapphire> > and> > > Red > > > > Coral >

> > > > by> > > > > > > different astrologers. One even advisedblue> > sapphire, > > > that > > > > made > > > > > matters> > > > > > > worse.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details andthen I> will> > tell> > > > > > > gem > > > > > stone that> > > > > > > worked for me.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978> > > > > >

>> > > > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon(Substitute> of > > > Diamond). > > > > I > > > > > worn this in> > > > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things> started> > working > > > > positive> > > > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing> > exceptional in> > > my > > > > > personal / work> > > > > > > life. Now there are somethings to benoted.> > > > > > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. It's not lord of trines.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Still, it gave me good results.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way thatmay> be> > tried> > > if > > > > some > > > > > one wants> > > > > > > to try. Please share your results, so

thatwe> can> > know > > > more > > > > > about this.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If anyof> the> > planets > > > > that > > > > > were in 1,5,9> > > > > > > house moves to some other house, ignorethat> planet.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines(1,5,9) in> both> > natal> > > > > > > chart > > > > > and bhava> > > > > > > chart, choose that

planet (ignore rahu,ketu)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found tillstep 3> is> > > benefic > > > > for > > > > > your> > > > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose themain> > gemstone of > > > > that > > > > > planet and> > > > > > > wear it in the right hand.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet thatwas> found> > in> > > step > > > 3 > > > > is > > > > > malefic,> > > > > > > then choose the substitute gem for thatplanet> and> > wear> > > it > > > > in > >

> > > the left hand.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The above was just a thought that came tomy> mind> > and if > > > > some > > > > > one wants to> > > > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment.Kindly> share> > with > > > > other > > > > > members, if> > > > > > > this method works for you.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Neeraj Gupta> > >

> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the AchyutaAshram. > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama> > Krishna'> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who> said > > > that the human> > > > stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one freechart > > > reading> > > > today

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Dear Rafal,

 

Please can you advise why Coral will be appropriate even though Mars

is 6th lord?

Is it because it lords 9th from AL?

 

Many thanx

SS

 

 

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> Dear Rajarishi, Namaskar

>

> 1. There is yoga involving 10L and 12L so the gem will activate it.

> Parivartana means that Diamond will activate Bu in 3 from AL which

> afflicts career life and skills of native.

> 2. Neck influences thinking.

> 3. Planets in 12 from AL gives effect of 4 planet forward in

kalachakra

> scheme.

> 4. This is especially done for Rahu in badhak. Badhakesh in lagna

is

> corrected by offering Idol - prasna marga

> 5. Yes third bhava is lorded by Shani in twelfth. I follow Sanjayji

who

> also looks at lord when bhava is empty.

> 6. We can do everything if we know what we are doing. Planets in

lagna,

> fifth and tenth eclipses the others.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

>

>

> rajarshi nandy pisze:

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> >

> >

> > I was trying to understand your advise to Mr Sunil. It would be

great

> > if you could kindly clarify some points which I could not

understand.

> >

> >

> >

> > 1)Diamond could increase the duryoga of 10th lord, due to yuti

causing

> > exchange of effects?

> >

> > 2)When is a ring or a stone to be worn in neck? What is its

significance?

> >

> >

> >

> > 3)Ak Jup is in 12th from AL. You said it will give effects of

shani.

> > Is it because of the 3rd garha in vara chakra? But i thought it

was

> > for grahas sitting in 1,5,10th house? Please tell me the exact

rule.

> >

> >

> >

> > 4)For the badhakesh, this looks like a sarpa badhaka. In that

case

> > shouldnt the native donate 9 golden eggs to nagraj temple? Why is

the

> > Krishna idol donation neeeded?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks in advance,.

> >

> >

> >

> > -Regards

> >

> > Rajarshi

> >

> > /*

> > * " This above all: to thine own self be true! " - Hamlet*

> > */

> >

> >

> > --- On *Sun, 6/7/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote:

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones (Sunil)

> >

> > Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:43 PM

> >

> > *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> > Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> >

> > Diamond is forbidden due to parivartana.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> >

> >

> > Rafal Gendarz pisze:

> >

> >> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> >> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> >>

> >> 1. Diamond can increase the duryoga of tenth lord which is

> >> negative, but will also improve the finances and Chandra..so

its

> >> not perfect. Coral has less side-effects here.

> >> 2. Neck is for something else, fingers are for karma.

> >> 3. We ve been taught to not wear ratnas signified by AK. Irs

also

> >> in 12 from AL giving Sa effects on AL.

> >> 4. Ketu will give effects of Shukra, so initial setbacks

(rasi)

> >> and then improvement (navamsa).

> >> 5. Just please try to perform those remedies which I have

given

> >> in the last mail.

> >>

> >> Altough Kalasarpa is not so active already, the Sarpa should

be

> >> broken and the ninth lord should be lifted - Bhuvanesvari.

> >>

> >> Agantuka adrsta problems coming from Rahu should be remedied

by

> >> gift of idol/picture related to Sri Krishna.

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> >> www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> >>

> >>

> >> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> >>

> >>> Dear Rafal ji,

> >>> Namaskar

> >>> Thank you very much for your guidance. I like to hear your

> >>> comments, not just about me, but even regarding other

> >>> person/subject

> >>> Good that I removed the Pearl. I am, however, still wearing

a

> >>> Diamond in silver ring in my right hand ring finger. Should

that

> >>> be removed too? Not that I see any visible difference after

> >>> wearing it.

> >>> I wear Coral (by fortune-gem I assume you mean Coral in my

case)

> >>> in gold pendant around the neck. Any suggestions for this.

> >>> Secondly, someone suggested I should wear Yellow Sapphire to

> >>> boost my Atmakaraka Jupiter as it is afflicted due to

Rahu's 9th

> >>> aspect. Is it appropriate?

> >>> As for dasha and antardasha, I have not seen good period

since

> >>> the beginning of Ketu dasha in 1993. Some sporadic gains

now and

> >>> then but nothing substantial. I would love to change the

> >>> situation, if I can, and solicit your advice in this

regard. If

> >>> you will be kind enough to please give me a clear idea what

I

> >>> can do.

> >>> Regards

> >>> Sunil

> >>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@ wp.pl>/*

wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

> >>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

(Sunil)

> >>>

> >>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 2:43 AM

> >>>

> >>> *kleem namah narasimhaaya*

> >>> Dear Sunil , Namaskar

> >>>

> >>> You cant wear pearl at all as its badhakesh with rahu in

> >>> Lagna. Its good to donate Krishna idol/picture to

> >>> temple/spiritual person.

> >>>

> >>> You can wear only Coral.

> >>>

> >>> Left hand is usually for malefic being placed in

third/ninth

> >>> - only in dasa of this malefic - instead use right hand

with

> >>> fortune-gem.

> >>>

> >>> Best is to get initiation in Bhuvanesvari Sadhana and

> >>> worship Hanumanji sincerly!

> >>>

> >>> Middle period of Shukra mahadasa can be troublesome as

its

> >>> the strength period (neechavastha) , after initial

struggle

> >>> there should be improvement due to exaltation in d9.

This

> >>> period works for spirituality a lot due to karakaamsa

> >>> position. Rahu AD will give effect of chandra and being

GK

> >>> it should not be so bad but the twelfth bhava will be

> >>> strongly activated (due to anubhava Ve-Ra and fact that

Mo

> >>> in Lg eclipse Bu in 12H).

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>> Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

> >>> www: http://rohinaa. com <http://www.rohinaa.com/> /

email:

> >>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com <rafal

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Sunil Sharma pisze:

> >>>> Dear Maja,

> >>>> I fully appreciate your openness about various

observations

> >>>> made so far. At least you are better than me when you

say

> >>>> few charts are clear to you. To me all of them look

confusing.

> >>>> My birth data is as follows:

> >>>> DOB: 21st September 1955

> >>>> TOB: 10:32 A.M.

> >>>> POB Allahabad, India (81E51, 25N27)

> >>>> Like I said earlier, take your time about it. I am not

in a

> >>>> hurry.

> >>>> Regards

> >>>> Sunil

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> --- On *Sun, 7/6/08, majastrbacastro /<majastrbacastro@

> >>>> > <majastrbacastro/* wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ >

> >>>> <majastrbacastro

> >>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing Gemstones

(Sunil)

> >>>>

> >>>> Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:59 AM

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Gurave Namah

> >>>> Dear Sunil,

> >>>> Namaste

> >>>>

> >>>> My decision

> >>>> to wear that gift I received has nothing to do

with

> >>>> procedure of determining proper gemstone :) It is

just that I wear

> >>>> jewelry only on rare occasions, lately I find it

very entertaining

> >>>> to learn about gemstones (not just for past two

days), for past

> >>>> month or two I had a few dialogues regarding same

kind of ring that

> >>>> you are wearing right now, and it turned out it is

not suitable for

> >>>> me when I was about to buy one. What happened

yesterday I consider

> >>>> it to be nice omen, so I decided to wear it for

few months. (If I

> >>>> suddenly disappear from list it will mean that it

was a wrong

> >>>> decision :)

> >>>>

> >>>> Anyway, please give me your birth data. I would

like to look at

> >>>> whole chart. Whatever I say I am asking you to

take it just as an

> >>>> opinion. As I have said on the beginning of this

thread I am not

> >>>> quite skilled with this issue, so have this

> >>>> in mind (Though it was

> >>>> not so difficult for me to say that ruby is proper

> >>>> gemstone for

> >>>> Neeraj, since positions in his chart are not so

confusing as they

> >>>> often could be in various charts. When positions

in chart are

> >>>> complicated I choose to say " I don't know " rather

than to ruin

> >>>> someone's life.)

> >>>>

> >>>> Regards,

> >>>> Maja

> >>>>

> >>>> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> , Sunil

Sharma

> >>>> <sunilsharma21@ ...> wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Dear Maja,

> >>>> > I have been reading each and every message on

this thread and, at

> >>>> the outset, was surprised to read about Neeraj's

observations.

> >>>> However, things became quite clear later on

especially with your

> >>>> comments on antardasha.

> >>>> > Your very last sentence in your last mail (even

though chandra is

> >>>> not lording my trines) caught my attention.

Debilitated chandra (in

> >>>> Scorpio, in lagna) is lording 9th house in my

chart with exalted

> >>>> Atmakaraka

> >>>> Jupiter positioned in 9th. Now, Rahu conjoining

moon in

> >>>> lagna aspects 5th, 7th and 9th

> >>>> house spoiling Jupiter (I think KSY

> >>>> or KAY operational here along 1-7 axis). So, the

net result is

> >>>> Atmakaraka Jupiter and Moon (though already

afflicted due to

> >>>> debilitation) is afflicted. All this is something

I have been told

> >>>> by various astrologers (not necessarily all at the

same time).

> >>>> > Someone had suggested Pearl, Coral and Diamond

to me. I am still

> >>>> wearing diamond in silver ring on my right hand

ring finger

> >>>> (presently going through Venus dasha), and Coral

in gold pendant in

> >>>> the neck. I wore Pearl in a silver ring earlier

but changed it to a

> >>>> pendant and wore it in the neck in a black string.

I have since

> >>>> removed it but I must say that whenever I wear

Pearl it quietens my

> >>>> temper down. Besides that, I have not seen any

improvement in my

> >>>> career or financial aspects.

> >>>> > Now, my real question to you is

> >>>> this. Moon being afflicted and

> >>>> left hand to be used (for the effect to be

reduced), I should

> >>>> have

> >>>> worn the Pearl in my left hand ring finger? You

may take few days to

> >>>> reply! I am not in a hurry.

> >>>> > Regards

> >>>> > Sunil

> >>>> >

> >>>> > --- On Sat, 7/5/08, majastrbacastro

<majastrbacastro@ ...> wrote:

> >>>> > majastrbacastro <majastrbacastro@ ...>

> >>>> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones (Swami)

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Saturday, July 5, 2008, 1:36 PM

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Om Gurave Namah

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Namaste dear Swami,

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Listing out all possible solutions of Sukra

being unfavorable

> >>>> Graha

> >>>> > in this chart, those mentioned were the only one

I could find (and

> >>>> > that was after quite some time spent in serious

thinking). It is

> >>>> my

> >>>> > mistake to " equalize " effects of Rudra and

Maheshvara in Shula

> >>>> dasa

> >>>> > somewhere in my

> >>>> memory, which is apparently wrong. Anyway, I did

> >>>> say

> >>>> > that I sincerely doubt it is of any

> >>>> significance to wear gemstone

> >>>> > for it (either to increase or to decrease).

> >>>> >

> >>>> > So far I was informed about just a few rules

regarding determining

> >>>> > Maheshvara in chart, and to be honest I thought

that Ketu/Rahu

> >>>> could

> >>>> > reverse counting only in case if it is in 8th

from AK or if Rahu

> >>>> > itself is AK. Thanks for one more useful

information about this

> >>>> > issue.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > P.S. All this long day on gemstones issue... I

received one

> >>>> > completely unexpected gift today afternoon:

silver ring with a

> >>>> pearl

> >>>> > and matching silver pectoral also decorated with

pearls. What is

> >>>> > this today...? I was never this much involved in

any thread so

> >>>> far.

> >>>> > Whateverå I do have a plan to wear it, even

though Chandra is not

> >>>> > lording my trines.

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> Regards,

> >>>> > Maja

> >>>> >

> >>>> > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > --- In

> >>>> , " swami " <swami@>

> >>>> wrote:

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > || Om Gurave Namah ||

> >>>> > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

> >>>> > > Hari Om,

> >>>> > > Dear Maja,

> >>>> > > Your insights are great, incidently I was

struck at your

> >>>> mention

> >>>> > of " Yet, Sukra is also maheshvara.. . but I

don't think

> >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any

significance) .

> >>>> > > I could not understand How sukra is

maheshwar.J hora gives Ketu

> >>>> as

> >>>> > maheswar planet . that also is appears incorrect.

> >>>> > > My learning is Ak is Merc.Merc is with ketu so

count to 8 th

> >>>> would

> >>>> > be reverse. Counting eight from AK merc leads to

Leo.

> >>>> > > The sign lord is SUN.

> >>>> > > Now sun is in exaltation in aries so SUN

becomes Brahma Planet.

> >>>> >

> >>>> > In such an eventulaty we have to count 8th and

12 th from Sun

> >>>> the

> >>>> > maheswar.

> >>>> > > Eight

> >>>> lords are mars and keu ad 12 th lord is Jup.

> >>>> > > We apply parashar strength to determne

strenth.Ketu and jup are

> >>>> > both with one planet Jup is in dual sign so as

per naisargic bal

> >>>> Jup

> >>>> > is Maheswar.

> >>>> > > You can check workng referring to 2.1.47 sutra.

> >>>> > > Now on thread question of wearing gem is

discussed.

> >>>> > > Maheswar planet is associated wih

knowledge .So Gem stone of

> >>>> > planet that is maheswar if put in left should

diminish

> >>>> knowledge.If

> >>>> > worn in Right hand should enhance learning of

vedic shahstra.

> >>>> > > Perhaps native has tried many gems.

> >>>> > > By the way, influence of wearing planet

related to maheshwar is

> >>>> > not taught in parampara or in scriptures,i could

access, so this

> >>>> > last suggestion may be taken just a logical

> >>>> aplication.

> >>>> > > Hope it sets you to think and experiment.

> >>>> > > with regards.

> >>>> > > OM TATSAT

> >>>> > >

> >>>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- -------

-- ---------

> >>>> > > Swami_RCS

> >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

----- --------

> >>>> > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence

of that Divine

> >>>> Being

> >>>> > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct

our understanding. "

> >>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

----- --------- --------

> >>>> --

> >>>> > -

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > -

> >>>> > > majastrbacastro

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:10 PM

> >>>> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

Gemstones

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Om Gurave Namah

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Namaste dear List member (Rajeev maybe?),

> >>>> > >

> >>>>

> >>>> > > Just to remind you, Neeraj was wearing

zircon on his left

> >>>> hand,

> >>>> > so

> >>>> > > that means he was weakening his lord of

> >>>> 10th bhava in 9th...

> >>>> And

> >>>> > > additionally he was weakening lord of 3rd

bhava (which is

> >>>> > considered

> >>>> > > as inauspicious. Yet, Sukra is also

maheshvara.. . but I don't

> >>>> > think

> >>>> > > that this latter one could be of any

significance) .

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > I really dislike complicating simple things,

but this time I

> >>>> can

> >>>> > not

> >>>> > > help myself. Neraaj's Arudha Lagna is in

Dhanu, yet Mithuna is

> >>>> > > stronger Rasi due to position of Chandra and

Guru in it. That

> >>>> > means

> >>>> > > that we could treat Mithuna Rasi as his

Arudha Lagna. 12th

> >>>> lord

> >>>> > > there from is Sukra. 12th bhava from Arudha

Lagna signifies

> >>>> > > expenses. He was weakening this one also.

These are just

> >>>> >

> >>>> thoughts...

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Regards,

> >>>> > > Maja

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > --- In

> >>>> , RKM

<rajeevmundra@>

> >>>> wrote:

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Dear Neeraj

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > For you venus is 10th Lord sitting in 9th

house which is a

> >>>> > Royal

> >>>> > > Yoga.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Wearning stone of 10th Lord may have

helped you grow in your

> >>>> > > career.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Rest all planets seems not to be very

suitable.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Debiliated mercury disposits Jupiter and

Moon. -ve.

> >>>> > > > Mars debliated sits in 12th house. -ve

(but ok if malefic

> >>>> > > debiliated in 12th

> >>>> > > > house)

> >>>> > > > Saturn in lagna. -ve.

> >>>> > > > Sun is at 0degree33min in aries and just

out

> >>>> of 8th house.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Venus lord of 10th in 9th and relatively

unafflicted is

> >>>> > working

> >>>> > > the

> >>>> best.

> >>>> > > > Suns stone would probably give you better

health and overall

> >>>> > luck.

> >>>> > > > But venus will cause growth in career.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > --

> >>>> > > > Ã'Åò Ã'ÄÉÃ'ÄÃÃ'Äf

Ã'Ä´Ã'ÄÆ'Ã'IJÃ'ĬÃ'ÄÃ

> >>>> > > > RKM

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 2:33 AM, yasoda

krsna

> >>>> <yasodakrsna@>

> >>>> > > wrote:

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > > Neeraj,

> >>>> > > > > Unfortunately even Jyotish Gurus of SJC

have made error.

> >>>> > > > > Particularly in my case was recommended

Coral by one,

> >>>> Ruby

> >>>> > by

> >>>> > > two.

> >>>> > > > > Both gemstones were purchased by

> >>>> recommended quality

> >>>> > gemologist.

> >>>> > > > > This gemstone recommendation was not by

internet

> >>>> questions

> >>>> > but

> >>>> >

> >>>> > by paid

> >>>> > > > > services.

> >>>> > > > > The good thing was the price of gold

soared and made good

> >>>>

> >>>> > money

> >>>> > > by selling

> >>>> > > > > it.

> >>>> > > > > I still value Sanjay Rath recommendation

of yellow

> >>>> sapphire

> >>>> > as

> >>>> > > it works.

> >>>> > > > > Even Jyotish have to worship their

Devata for the

> >>>> prediction

> >>>> > to

> >>>> > > be true.

> >>>> > > > > Yasoda.

> >>>> > > > > FYI Prayers have more effect than

gemstone if sincere

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_ 2000@>

> >>>> > > > > vedic astrology;

> >>>>

> >>>> >

> >>>> > > > > Friday, July 4, 2008 11:59:41 AM

> >>>> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru]

> >>>> Choosing Gemstones

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Dear All,

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > It's been more than four years that I

studied

> >>>> different

> >>>> > books on

> >>>> > > gemstones

> >>>> > > > > and got advise from different good

astrologers about the

> >>>> > > gemstone. But none

> >>>> > > > > of them gave very good result.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > As of now, some of the following

theories are present for

> >>>>

> >>>> > > choosing

> >>>> > > > > gemstone.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 1. Gemstone of Lagna Lord

> >>>> (recommended by many

> >>>> astrologers)

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 2. Gemstone of Benefics (lord of 1, 5,

and 9) - Anukool

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > > > > 3. Gemstone of Malefics (Partikool)

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 4. Gemstone of MD lord

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 5. Gemstone of Nakshatra Lord.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > However, I recently found that one

gemstone worked very

> >>>> well

> >>>> > for

> >>>> > > me. After

> >>>> > > > > wearing that I got a very good results

in my career and

> >>>> also

> >>>> > my

> >>>> > > income

> >>>> > > > > increased by more than 100% in approx. 4

months.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Well, this gem stone was not recommended

to me by any

> >>>> > astrologer

> >>>>

> >>>> > > (though I

> >>>> > > > > consulted several ones in person) and in

no such book it

> >>>> was

> >>>> > > mentioned that

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > I should choose this gemstone. I read

approximately 8-10

> >>>> > books

> >>>> > > on gem

> >>>> > > > > stones. Also, on any of the forums, I

was not advised to

> >>>> > wear

> >>>> > > this gemstone.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Prior to this, I was advised Ruby,

Yellow Sapphire and

> >>>> Red

> >>>> > Coral

> >>>> > > by

> >>>> > > > > different astrologers. One even advised

blue sapphire,

> >>>> that

> >>>> > made

> >>>> > > matters

> >>>> > > > > worse.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > So, let me tell you my birth details and

then I will tell

> >>>>

> >>>> > gem

> >>>> > > stone that

> >>>> > >

> >>>> > > worked for me.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > D.o.B - 14th April, 1978

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > T.o.B - 15:31:58 PM

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Place - New Delhi (INDIA)

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > The gemstone that worked was Zircon

(Substitute of

> >>>> Diamond).

> >>>> > I

> >>>> > > worn this in

> >>>> > > > > left hand ring finger in gold and things

started working

> >>>> > positive

> >>>> > > > > automatically. I didn't did any thing

exceptional in

> >>>> my

> >>>> > > personal / work

> >>>> > > > > life. Now there are somethings to be

noted.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 1. It's not lord of

> >>>> trines.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 2. MD, AD of this planet is not running.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 3. Not lord of nakshatra

> >>>> >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Still, it gave me good results.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > On the basis of this, I thought a way

that may be tried

> >>>> if

> >>>> > some

> >>>> > > one wants

> >>>> > > > > to try. Please share your results, so

that we can know

> >>>> more

> >>>> > > about this.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 1. Look for the planets placed in 1,5,9

house.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 2. Now have a look at Bhava Chart. If

any of the planets

> >>>> > that

> >>>> > > were in 1,5,9

> >>>> > > > > house moves to

> >>>> some other house, ignore that planet.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 3. If there is any planet in Trines

(1,5,9) in both natal

> >>>>

> >>>> > chart

> >>>> > > and

> >>>> bhava

> >>>> > > > > chart, choose that planet (ignore rahu,

ketu)

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 4. Now if the planet that was found till

step 3 is

> >>>> benefic

> >>>> > for

> >>>> > > your

> >>>> > > > > chart (lord of 1,5,9) , then choose the

main gemstone of

> >>>> > that

> >>>> > > planet and

> >>>> > > > > wear it in the right hand.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > 5. On the other hand, if the planet that

was found in

> >>>> step

> >>>> 3

> >>>> > is

> >>>> > > malefic,

> >>>> > > > > then choose the substitute gem for that

planet and wear

> >>>> it

> >>>> > in

> >>>> > > the left hand.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > The above was just a thought that came to my

mind and if

> >>>> > some

> >>>> > > one wants to

> >>>> > > > > try it, they may do so for experiment.

Kindly share with

> >>>>

> >>>> > other

> >>>> > > members, if

> >>>> > > > > this method works for you.

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Regards,

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > > Neeraj Gupta

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >>>> >

> >>>> > ~ om tat sat ~

> >>>> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> >>>> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >>>> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

> >>>>

> >>>> that the human

> >>>> > stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

> >>>> > (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

> >>>> reading

> >>>> > today

> >>>> Links

> >>>> >

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >>>>

> >>>> ~ om tat sat ~

> >>>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> >>>> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

> >>>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human

> >>>> stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >>>> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading

> >>>> today

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