Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Swami and Prabhu, Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. -Yours Sincerely Rajarshi Nandy Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco wrote: Dear Swami, Thank you for your words. I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil forces - but had his life destroyed. Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to "re-charge", things got awfully bad for him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting with. Sure, Mantras are a great tool. In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and godesses such as Kali,Hanuman,Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such guardian gods (demi gods) is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that even gods are protected towards the east and west and south by a guardian god. So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in deep occult matter. Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili Karuppan, Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar,Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they represent the same god but in manifest "rudric" quality of the benevolent lord, Shiva. Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up his puja alternately at your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) Hope all of you are safe! swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear PG Your views are perfectly RIGHT. I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating? In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult matter, or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally who use the aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely sattvic. They will be able to tell many intricate details with the assistance of the angels..but this is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light and darkness....your friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if he crosses path with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. They keep the balance of the universe. However this is extremely rare. Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant say them for occult matters. Hope he will be safe. Regards, PG. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Michal, I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to quantify her as yet. Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a lot of physical fights. Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I myself have never ever seen or communicated with any spirits, so my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things about this guy which I know for a fact. 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason to disbelieve him. Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use intution, real intution. Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. -Regards RajarshiMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi,In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with other substances also.Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their new age Sun in Aquarius that are communicating with 'spirits'. He has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt.I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland).The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for alternatives to what most would call a normal job.Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Dear Rafal, Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he started his occult practices and became very renowned as an exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. -Regards Rajarshi Also Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajrishi , NamaskarDoes he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would be accurate, otherwise Mithuna. Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out.Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspatiprofession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad attitude towards career life. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Mike and Michal, Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really appreciate it. Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself have experineced. Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc etc. Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason why he also holds a degree in martial arts. He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote: Hi Rajashri,1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home either in the same country or outside his country.2. He is in the business of serving others.3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is through consultancy.4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer.Mike, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> > Hi> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try..> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> Hello Everybody,> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from his > chart?> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04)> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Rajarshi,Namaste[all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge.]Great, can you look at my chart and indicate a time frame when I did this type of work, though it was the one off and a house exorcism? More details later, if you like.My deets:3rd April, 19559:48:20Kuching 110E20 1N33 Tz 8E00Thanks.love,SweeOn 9 May 2008, at 11:01, rajarshi nandy wrote:Dear Swami and Prabhu, Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. -Yours Sincerely Rajarshi Nandy Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco > wrote:Dear Swami,Thank you for your words.I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil force s - but had his life destroyed. Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to "re-charge", things got awfully badfor him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting with. Sure, Mantras are a great tool. In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and godesses such asKali,Hanuman,Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such guardian gods (demi gods)is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that even gods are protectedtowards the east and west and south by a guardian god. So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in deep occult matter. Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili Karuppan, Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar,Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they represent thesame god but in manifest "rudric" quality of the benevolent lord, Shiva. Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up his puja alternatelyat your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) Hope all of you are safe!swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om,Dear PGYour views are perfectly RIGHT.I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating?In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning.Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS(http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."--- Prabhu GaneshTo: Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting ProfessionHi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult matter,or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally who use theaid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely sattvic. They will be able to tell many intricate details with the assistance of the angels..butthis is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light and darkness....yourfriend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if he crosses pathwith spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. They keep the balance of the universe.However this is extremely rare. Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant say them for occult matters. Hope he will be safe. Regards,PG. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:Dear Michal, I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to quantify her as yet. Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a lot of physical fights.Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I myself have never ever seen o r communicated with any spirits, so my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things about this guy which I know for a fact. 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound!2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason to disbelieve him. Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use intution, real intution.Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. -Regards RajarshiMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi,In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with other substances also.Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their new age Sun in Aquarius th at are communicating with 'spirits'. He has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt.I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland).The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for alternatives to what most would call a normal job.Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide.Respectfully,Michalrajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting ProfessionDear Rafal, Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he started his occult practices and became very renowned as an exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. -Regards Rajarshi Also Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajrishi , NamaskarDoes he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would be accurate, otherwise Mithuna . Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out.Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspatiprofession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad attitude towards career life. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a):Dear Mike and Michal, Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really appreciate it. Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself have experineced. & n b sp;Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc etc. Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason why he also holds a degree in martial arts. He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>wrote:Hi Rajashri,1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home either in the same country or outside his country.2. He is in the business of serving others.3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is through consultancy.4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer.Mike--- In , rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> > Hi> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try..> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> Hello Everybody,> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from his > chart?> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04)> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of .>Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it nowAditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Dear Swee, My knowledge of jyotish is quite rudimentary. So chances of me being able to accurately pin point the time are quite less. Which is why I had posted the chart in the first place, so that from the analysis of the group I get to learn new stuff in jyotish. And yes one ounce of real experince is far more valuable then second hand knowledge, is of course always true. Specially when one is talking about occult because in the realm of occult, jyoish (yes jyotish is indeed a part of occult) is but one of the parts, there are other things as well. Unless experinced one will not know. -Best Regards Rajarshi Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi, Namaste [all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge.] Great, can you look at my chart and indicate a time frame when I did this type of work, though it was the one off and a house exorcism? More details later, if you like. My deets: 3rd April, 1955 9:48:20 Kuching 110E20 1N33 Tz 8E00 Thanks. love, Swee On 9 May 2008, at 11:01, rajarshi nandy wrote: Dear Swami and Prabhu, Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. -Yours Sincerely Rajarshi Nandy Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco > wrote: Dear Swami, Thank you for your words. I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil force s - but had his life destroyed. Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to "re-charge", things got awfully bad for him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting with. Sure, Mantras are a great tool. In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and godesses such as Kali,Hanuman,Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such guardian gods (demi gods) is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that even gods are protected towards the east and west and south by a guardian god. So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in deep occult matter. Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili Karuppan, Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar,Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they represent the same god but in manifest "rudric" quality of the benevolent lord, Shiva. Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up his puja alternately at your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) Hope all of you are safe! swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear PG Your views are perfectly RIGHT. I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating? In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult matter, or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally who use the aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely sattvic. They will be able to tell many intricate details with the assistance of the angels..but this is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light and darkness....your friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if he crosses path with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. They keep the balance of the universe. However this is extremely rare. Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant say them for occult matters. Hope he will be safe. Regards, PG. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Michal, I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to quantify her as yet. Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a lot of physical fights. Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I myself have never ever seen o r communicated with any spirits, so my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things about this guy which I know for a fact. 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason to disbelieve him. Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use intution, real intution. Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. -Regards RajarshiMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi,In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with other substances also.Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their new age Sun in Aquarius th at are communicating with 'spirits'. He has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt.I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland).The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for alternatives to what most would call a normal job.Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Dear Rafal, Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he started his occult practices and became very renowned as an exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. -Regards Rajarshi Also Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajrishi , NamaskarDoes he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would be accurate, otherwise Mithuna . Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out.Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspatiprofession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad attitude towards career life. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Mike and Michal, Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really appreciate it. Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself have experineced. & n b sp; Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc etc. Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason why he also holds a degree in martial arts. He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>wrote: Hi Rajashri,1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home either in the same country or outside his country.2. He is in the business of serving others.3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is through consultancy.4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer.Mike, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> > Hi> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try..> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> Hello Everybody,> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from his > chart?> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04)> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Swee, My apologies if I barged in. Let me attempt to answer your question. I get Taurus Lagna with Mars. My analysis is based on that. Occultism is written all over your chart. Anyway your question really requires an expert to answer as it is a one off incidence. I being no expert have to use the principles I know and perhaps guess. Your experience took place in the periods of Rahu-Sun or Sun-Rahu or Rahu. Probable periods are 1993-1994 or 2005-2006. 2005-2006 is the most likely period. As an aside you chart indicates that you desire to be in the field of occultism and exorcism. Nice placement of Moon, Venus and Mercury. You chart also shows that you have left your native land very early in life and have settled somewhere else permanently. You seem to be doing more than one business with one of them involved with the Government. Regards, Mike , Swee Chan <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Rajarshi, > Namaste > > [all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than > all second hand knowledge.] > > Great, can you look at my chart and indicate a time frame when I did > this type of work, though it was the one off and a house exorcism? > More details later, if you like. > > My deets: > > 3rd April, 1955 > 9:48:20 > Kuching 110E20 1N33 Tz 8E00 > > Thanks. > > love, > > Swee > > > > On 9 May 2008, at 11:01, rajarshi nandy wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Swami and Prabhu, > > > > Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy > > and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine > > oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this > > forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully > > disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one > > ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. > > > > -Yours Sincerely > > Rajarshi Nandy > > > > > > Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco wrote: > > Dear Swami, > > Thank you for your words. > > I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya > > tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil force s - > > but had his life destroyed. > > > > Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to " re- charge " , > > things got awfully bad > > for him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting > > with. > > > > Sure, Mantras are a great tool. > > > > In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and > > godesses such as > > Kali,Hanuman,Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such > > guardian gods (demi gods) > > is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that > > even gods are protected > > towards the east and west and south by a guardian god. > > > > So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in > > deep occult matter. > > > > Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili > > Karuppan, > > Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar,Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they > > represent the > > same god but in manifest " rudric " quality of the benevolent lord, > > Shiva. > > > > Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up > > his puja alternately > > at your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian > > gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) > > > > Hope all of you are safe! > > > > > > swami <swami wrote: > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah > > Hari Om, > > Dear PG > > Your views are perfectly RIGHT. > > I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong > > occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating? > > In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing > > Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. > > Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------------------ > > Swami_RCS > > (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] > > ----------------------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > > who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > -- > > - > > Prabhu Ganesh > > > > Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession > > > > Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult > > matter, > > or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally > > who use the > > aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely > > sattvic. > > > > They will be able to tell many intricate details with the > > assistance of the angels..but > > this is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light > > and darkness....your > > friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if > > he crosses path > > with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. > > > > They keep the balance of the universe. > > However this is extremely rare. > > > > Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant > > say them for occult matters. > > > > Hope he will be safe. > > > > Regards, > > PG. > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: > > Dear Michal, > > > > I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that > > is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is > > absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a > > lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and > > the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to > > quantify her as yet. > > > > Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. > > I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a > > lot of physical fights. > > Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I > > myself have never ever seen o r communicated with any spirits, so > > my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have > > had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed > > have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos > > chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, > > and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how > > much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things > > about this guy which I know for a fact. > > > > 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and > > absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! > > 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial > > days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some > > tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of > > claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from > > a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific > > details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my > > dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he > > could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually > > advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but > > since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason > > to disbelieve him. > > > > Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on > > jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary > > and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. > > But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often > > jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and > > brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. > > Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use > > intution, real intution. > > Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual > > experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements > > of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Rajarshi, > > > > In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse > > combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite > > and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of > > many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly > > hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he > > spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with > > other substances also. > > > > Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their > > new age Sun in Aquarius th at are communicating with 'spirits'. He > > has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd > > house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't > > mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt. > > > > I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio > > Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not > > yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, > > Warsaw, Poland). > > > > The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is > > very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given > > that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma > > from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for > > alternatives to what most would call a normal job. > > > > Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but > > I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 > > > > Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial > > family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard > > and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his > > childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he > > was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly > > a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, > > but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This > > man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various > > things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed > > drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and > > milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he > > started his occult practices and became very renowned as an > > exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more > > good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear > > and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. > > > > He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique > > kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often > > stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete > > silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back > > energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in > > his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani > > ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for > > some hours daily on " Om " and during some times of the year, he > > stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa > > or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is > > not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came > > across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they > > asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism > > where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully > > evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. > > That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on " om " . > > Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and > > instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These > > beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in > > indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got > > great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. > > > > Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects > > that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro > > and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that > > indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? > > > > Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see > > sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > Also > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > Dear Rajrishi , Namaskar > > > > Does he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would > > be accurate, otherwise Mithuna . Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in > > fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be > > very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch > > influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year > > 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out. > > > > Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 > > gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest > > in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspati > > profession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra > > debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is > > also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad > > attitude towards career life. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > rajarshi nandy napisa³(a): > >> > >> Dear Mike and Michal, > >> > >> Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really > >> appreciate it. > >> > >> Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine > >> is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick > >> and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself > >> have experineced. > >> & n b sp; > >> Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by > >> checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th > >> house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces > >> happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga > >> happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is > >> recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many > >> different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc > >> etc. > >> > >> Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason > >> why he also holds a degree in martial arts. > >> > >> He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could > >> you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> mikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>wrote: > >> Hi Rajashri, > >> 1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home > >> either in the same country or outside his country. > >> 2. He is in the business of serving others. > >> 3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is > >> through consultancy. > >> 4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer. > >> Mike > >> > >> , rajarshi nandy > >> <rajarshi14@ ...> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try.. > >> > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > >> > Hello Everybody, > >> > > >> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > >> > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from > >> his > >> > chart? > >> > > >> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04) > >> > > >> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam > >> > Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- --- > >> > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Rajarshi, Perhaps you are right - if you are making judgements about real experiences then you can perhaps only speak about yours and we are entitled to speak about ours. If this disturbs your "reality" then i beg to differ. Astrology & Spirituality go hand in hand, so me and Swami did not understeer. Perhaps one needs to look at a broader spectrum rather than just processing second hand information from the scriptures Some call it "Direct" experience. We were just sharing our thoughts. Cheers. PG.Swee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi, Namaste [all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge.] Great, can you look at my chart and indicate a time frame when I did this type of work, though it was the one off and a house exorcism? More details later, if you like. My deets: 3rd April, 1955 9:48:20 Kuching 110E20 1N33 Tz 8E00 Thanks. love, Swee On 9 May 2008, at 11:01, rajarshi nandy wrote: Dear Swami and Prabhu, Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. -Yours Sincerely Rajarshi Nandy Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco > wrote: Dear Swami, Thank you for your words. I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil force s - but had his life destroyed. Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to "re-charge", things got awfully bad for him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting with. Sure, Mantras are a great tool. In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and godesses such as Kali,Hanuman,Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such guardian gods (demi gods) is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that even gods are protected towards the east and west and south by a guardian god. So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in deep occult matter. Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili Karuppan, Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar,Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they represent the same god but in manifest "rudric" quality of the benevolent lord, Shiva. Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up his puja alternately at your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) Hope all of you are safe! swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear PG Your views are perfectly RIGHT. I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating? In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult matter, or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally who use the aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely sattvic. They will be able to tell many intricate details with the assistance of the angels..but this is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light and darkness....your friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if he crosses path with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. They keep the balance of the universe. However this is extremely rare. Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant say them for occult matters. Hope he will be safe. Regards, PG. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Michal, I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to quantify her as yet. Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a lot of physical fights. Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I myself have never ever seen o r communicated with any spirits, so my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things about this guy which I know for a fact. 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason to disbelieve him. Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use intution, real intution. Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. -Regards RajarshiMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi,In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with other substances also.Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their new age Sun in Aquarius th at are communicating with 'spirits'. He has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt.I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland).The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for alternatives to what most would call a normal job.Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>To: Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Dear Rafal, Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he started his occult practices and became very renowned as an exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. -Regards Rajarshi Also Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajrishi , NamaskarDoes he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would be accurate, otherwise Mithuna . Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out.Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspatiprofession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad attitude towards career life. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Mike and Michal, Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really appreciate it. Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself have experineced. & n b sp; Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc etc. Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason why he also holds a degree in martial arts. He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>wrote: Hi Rajashri,1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home either in the same country or outside his country.2. He is in the business of serving others.3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is through consultancy.4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer.Mike, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> > Hi> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try..> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> Hello Everybody,> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from his > chart?> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04)> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Rajarshi, Understanding of "your term" be it occult or any other is irrelevant at this point. We all read your long e-mail regarding the mauni and our writtings are a follow up to that and within context, just offering our views, no offence should be taken. Occult; (Not apparent on mere inspection but discoverable by experimentation) (of a nature not understood, as physical qualities) (of or pertaining to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies) Cheers. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: Dear PG and Swami, Thank you for your views. I just have a question. What do you uderstand when when you use the word occult? -Regards Rajarshiswami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear PG Your views are perfectly RIGHT. I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating? In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult matter, or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally who use the aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely sattvic. They will be able to tell many intricate details with the assistance of the angels..but this is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light and darkness....your friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if he crosses path with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. They keep the balance of the universe. However this is extremely rare. Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant say them for occult matters. Hope he will be safe. Regards, PG. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Michal, I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to quantify her as yet. Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a lot of physical fights. Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I myself have never ever seen or communicated with any spirits, so my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things about this guy which I know for a fact. 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason to disbelieve him. Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use intution, real intution. Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. -Regards RajarshiMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi,In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with other substances also.Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their new age Sun in Aquarius that are communicating with 'spirits'. He has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt.I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland).The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for alternatives to what most would call a normal job.Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>To: Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Dear Rafal, Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he started his occult practices and became very renowned as an exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. -Regards Rajarshi Also Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajrishi , NamaskarDoes he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would be accurate, otherwise Mithuna. Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out.Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspatiprofession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad attitude towards career life. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Mike and Michal, Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really appreciate it. Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself have experineced. Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc etc. Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason why he also holds a degree in martial arts. He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote: Hi Rajashri,1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home either in the same country or outside his country.2. He is in the business of serving others.3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is through consultancy.4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer.Mike, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> > Hi> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try..> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> Hello Everybody,> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from his > chart?> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04)> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Rajarshi, GOD is the final aim of all beings, no matter what term you coin rajarshi, ALL TERMS still rest within his creation. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: Dear Swami, Any experince beyond the realm of normal sense perception. Hmm. That defition somewhat sounds almost like God. Someone I have never seen, not heard, neither have my friends, parents, teachers.. but we still believe, beyond the normal sense percetion! So maybe God is the final aim of occult - -Regards Rajarshiswami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Rajarshi, Any experience beyond the realm of Normal sense perception . on this thread , in this context! with regards, OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - rajarshi nandy Friday, May 09, 2008 12:54 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Dear PG and Swami, Thank you for your views. I just have a question. What do you uderstand when when you use the word occult? -Regards Rajarshiswami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear PG Your views are perfectly RIGHT. I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong occult personality.Is every one protected among those participating? In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult matter, or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally who use the aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely sattvic. They will be able to tell many intricate details with the assistance of the angels..but this is not spirituality....there is always a tussle between light and darkness....your friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if he crosses path with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. They keep the balance of the universe. However this is extremely rare. Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant say them for occult matters. Hope he will be safe. Regards, PG. rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Michal, I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to quantify her as yet. Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a lot of physical fights. Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I myself have never ever seen or communicated with any spirits, so my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things about this guy which I know for a fact. 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason to disbelieve him. Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use intution, real intution. Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. -Regards RajarshiMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi,In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with other substances also.Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their new age Sun in Aquarius that are communicating with 'spirits'. He has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt.I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland).The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for alternatives to what most would call a normal job.Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Dear Rafal, Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he started his occult practices and became very renowned as an exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. -Regards Rajarshi Also Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Rajrishi , NamaskarDoes he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would be accurate, otherwise Mithuna. Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out.Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspatiprofession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad attitude towards career life. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy napisa³(a): Dear Mike and Michal, Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really appreciate it. Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself have experineced. Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc etc. Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason why he also holds a degree in martial arts. He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? -Regards Rajarshimikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com> wrote: Hi Rajashri,1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home either in the same country or outside his country.2. He is in the business of serving others.3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is through consultancy.4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer.Mike, rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:>> > Hi> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try..> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote:> Hello Everybody,> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from his > chart?> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04)> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi.> > -Regards> Rajarshi> > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mike,Would it be possible for you to provide the jyotish reasoning behind your statements so that we can learn from your process? That would be immensely valuable for the whole group.Respectfully,Michalmikefranc01 <michael.travass Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:48:22 AM[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Swee, My apologies if I barged in. Let me attempt to answer your question. I get Taurus Lagna with Mars. My analysis is based on that. Occultism is written all over your chart. Anyway your question really requires an expert to answer as it is a one off incidence. I being no expert have to use the principles I know and perhaps guess. Your experience took place in the periods of Rahu-Sun or Sun-Rahu or Rahu. Probable periods are 1993-1994 or 2005-2006. 2005-2006 is the most likely period. As an aside you chart indicates that you desire to be in the field of occultism and exorcism. Nice placement of Moon, Venus and Mercury. You chart also shows that you have left your native land very early in life and have settled somewhere else permanently. You seem to be doing more than one business with one of them involved with the Government. Regards, Mike , Swee Chan <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Rajarshi, > Namaste > > [all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than > all second hand knowledge.] > > Great, can you look at my chart and indicate a time frame when I did > this type of work, though it was the one off and a house exorcism? > More details later, if you like. > > My deets: > > 3rd April, 1955 > 9:48:20 > Kuching 110E20 1N33 Tz 8E00 > > Thanks. > > love, > > Swee > > > > On 9 May 2008, at 11:01, rajarshi nandy wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Swami and Prabhu, > > > > Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy > > and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine > > oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this > > forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully > > disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one > > ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. > > > > -Yours Sincerely > > Rajarshi Nandy > > > > > > Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Swami, > > Thank you for your words. > > I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya > > tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil force s - > > but had his life destroyed. > > > > Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to "re- charge", > > things got awfully bad > > for him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting > > with. > > > > Sure, Mantras are a great tool. > > > > In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and > > godesses such as > > Kali,Hanuman, Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such > > guardian gods (demi gods) > > is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that > > even gods are protected > > towards the east and west and south by a guardian god. > > > > So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in > > deep occult matter. > > > > Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili > > Karuppan, > > Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar, Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they > > represent the > > same god but in manifest "rudric" quality of the benevolent lord, > > Shiva. > > > > Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up > > his puja alternately > > at your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian > > gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) > > > > Hope all of you are safe! > > > > > > swami <swami wrote: > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > Hari Om, > > Dear PG > > Your views are perfectly RIGHT. > > I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong > > occult personality. Is every one protected among those participating? > > In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing > > Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. > > Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > Swami_RCS > > (http:\\www. kaalvastu. com] > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > > who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - -- > > - > > Prabhu Ganesh > > > > Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession > > > > Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult > > matter, > > or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally > > who use the > > aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely > > sattvic. > > > > They will be able to tell many intricate details with the > > assistance of the angels..but > > this is not spirituality. ...there is always a tussle between light > > and darkness.... your > > friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if > > he crosses path > > with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. > > > > They keep the balance of the universe. > > However this is extremely rare. > > > > Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant > > say them for occult matters. > > > > Hope he will be safe. > > > > Regards, > > PG. > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Michal, > > > > I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that > > is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is > > absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a > > lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and > > the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to > > quantify her as yet. > > > > Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. > > I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a > > lot of physical fights. > > Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I > > myself have never ever seen o r communicated with any spirits, so > > my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have > > had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed > > have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos > > chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, > > and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how > > much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things > > about this guy which I know for a fact. > > > > 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and > > absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! > > 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial > > days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some > > tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of > > claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from > > a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific > > details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my > > dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he > > could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually > > advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but > > since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason > > to disbelieve him. > > > > Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on > > jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary > > and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. > > But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often > > jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and > > brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. > > Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use > > intution, real intution. > > Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual > > experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements > > of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Rajarshi, > > > > In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse > > combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite > > and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of > > many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly > > hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he > > spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with > > other substances also. > > > > Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their > > new age Sun in Aquarius th at are communicating with 'spirits'. He > > has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd > > house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't > > mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt. > > > > I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio > > Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not > > yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, > > Warsaw, Poland). > > > > The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is > > very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given > > that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma > > from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for > > alternatives to what most would call a normal job. > > > > Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but > > I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> > > > > Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial > > family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard > > and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his > > childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he > > was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly > > a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, > > but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This > > man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various > > things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed > > drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and > > milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he > > started his occult practices and became very renowned as an > > exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more > > good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear > > and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. > > > > He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique > > kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often > > stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete > > silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back > > energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in > > his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani > > ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for > > some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he > > stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa > > or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is > > not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came > > across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they > > asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism > > where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully > > evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. > > That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". > > Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and > > instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These > > beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in > > indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got > > great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. > > > > Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects > > that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro > > and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that > > indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? > > > > Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see > > sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > Also > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > Dear Rajrishi , Namaskar > > > > Does he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would > > be accurate, otherwise Mithuna . Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in > > fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be > > very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch > > influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year > > 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out. > > > > Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 > > gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest > > in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspati > > profession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra > > debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is > > also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad > > attitude towards career life. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > rajarshi nandy napisa³(a): > >> > >> Dear Mike and Michal, > >> > >> Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really > >> appreciate it. > >> > >> Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine > >> is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick > >> and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself > >> have experineced. > >> & n b sp; > >> Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by > >> checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th > >> house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces > >> happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga > >> happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is > >> recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many > >> different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc > >> etc. > >> > >> Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason > >> why he also holds a degree in martial arts. > >> > >> He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could > >> you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> mikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>wrote: > >> Hi Rajashri, > >> 1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home > >> either in the same country or outside his country. > >> 2. He is in the business of serving others. > >> 3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is > >> through consultancy. > >> 4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer. > >> Mike > >> > >> , rajarshi nandy > >> <rajarshi14@ ...> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try.. > >> > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > >> > Hello Everybody, > >> > > >> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > >> > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from > >> his > >> > chart? > >> > > >> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04) > >> > > >> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam > >> > Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- --- > >> > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 yes please mike i truly would like to know your findings. Did you use the Dasa and bukthi? will appreciate your guidance. Thank you. devamanohariMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 8:20:22 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mike,Would it be possible for you to provide the jyotish reasoning behind your statements so that we can learn from your process? That would be immensely valuable for the whole group.Respectfully,Michalmikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:48:22 AM[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession Swee, My apologies if I barged in. Let me attempt to answer your question. I get Taurus Lagna with Mars. My analysis is based on that. Occultism is written all over your chart. Anyway your question really requires an expert to answer as it is a one off incidence. I being no expert have to use the principles I know and perhaps guess. Your experience took place in the periods of Rahu-Sun or Sun-Rahu or Rahu. Probable periods are 1993-1994 or 2005-2006. 2005-2006 is the most likely period. As an aside you chart indicates that you desire to be in the field of occultism and exorcism. Nice placement of Moon, Venus and Mercury. You chart also shows that you have left your native land very early in life and have settled somewhere else permanently. You seem to be doing more than one business with one of them involved with the Government. Regards, Mike , Swee Chan <swee wrote: > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Rajarshi, > Namaste > > [all I have to say is one ounce of real experinece is worth more than > all second hand knowledge.] > > Great, can you look at my chart and indicate a time frame when I did > this type of work, though it was the one off and a house exorcism? > More details later, if you like. > > My deets: > > 3rd April, 1955 > 9:48:20 > Kuching 110E20 1N33 Tz 8E00 > > Thanks. > > love, > > Swee > > > > On 9 May 2008, at 11:01, rajarshi nandy wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Swami and Prabhu, > > > > Let us not go into these discussiong of who is a protective detiy > > and who guards whom and what is occult and all that. Let us confine > > oursevles ONLY to jyotish principles as far as possible, which this > > forum has done till now and done remarkably well. I respectfully > > disagree with this mail of Prabhu, and all I have to say is one > > ounce of real experinece is worth more than all second hand knowledge. > > > > -Yours Sincerely > > Rajarshi Nandy > > > > > > Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Swami, > > Thank you for your words. > > I knew a very genuine swamiji in Malaysia from the Agastiya > > tradition - who not only got caught battling such evil force s - > > but had his life destroyed. > > > > Austere guy, who retreats for long periods of time to "re- charge", > > things got awfully bad > > for him because he could not understand the forces he was fighting > > with. > > > > Sure, Mantras are a great tool. > > > > In addition having the protection and blessing of guardian god and > > godesses such as > > Kali,Hanuman, Kaal Bhairav in South India - worship of such > > guardian gods (demi gods) > > is really popular because if you go to the temples you can see that > > even gods are protected > > towards the east and west and south by a guardian god. > > > > So one should have such guardian (not an angel) when engaged in > > deep occult matter. > > > > Many who guard shiva's temples includes Madurai Veeran, Sangili > > Karuppan, > > Veera Bhadran, Muniswaran, Sandikeshwar, Kaal Bhairav (Kashi) - they > > represent the > > same god but in manifest "rudric" quality of the benevolent lord, > > Shiva. > > > > Of these, Hanuman would be most accesible because you can set up > > his puja alternately > > at your altars as opposed to the enterance of your home (guardian > > gods should not be worshiped along with the main deity in main altar) > > > > Hope all of you are safe! > > > > > > swami <swami wrote: > > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah > > Hari Om, > > Dear PG > > Your views are perfectly RIGHT. > > I am surprised , Learned people are discussing Chart of a strong > > occult personality. Is every one protected among those participating? > > In our tradition ( SJC) every astrologer is supposed to be doing > > Mantras, and i wish them excellent learning. > > Data posted by SRI Rajashari is really a good contribution. > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- > > Swami_RCS > > (http:\\www. kaalvastu. com] > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > > who has > > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - -- > > - > > Prabhu Ganesh > > > > Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:22 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession > > > > Hi..one needs to be very careful when dealing with things of occult > > matter, > > or such persons with powers, in deed i've a known a few personally > > who use the > > aid of angels, although they are good in nature - not completely > > sattvic. > > > > They will be able to tell many intricate details with the > > assistance of the angels..but > > this is not spirituality. ...there is always a tussle between light > > and darkness.... your > > friend whose chart you've provided could have his life destroyed if > > he crosses path > > with spiris that descend to fullfill karmic curses. > > > > They keep the balance of the universe. > > However this is extremely rare. > > > > Although my knowledge on jyotish is still in its infancy, i cant > > say them for occult matters. > > > > Hope he will be safe. > > > > Regards, > > PG. > > > > > > > > rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Michal, > > > > I completely understand your point of view. And I too believe that > > is the correct attitude to have in these cases unless one is > > absolutely sure. I myself have met at least 4 people who claim a > > lot of these stuff but 3 of them are actually mentally unstable and > > the last one is a fake for sure but I have not been able to > > quantify her as yet. > > > > Anyway regarding this chart, well he was a heavy drinker for sure. > > I dont knwo about drug use. But he also used to get involved in a > > lot of physical fights. > > Now he is a complete vegan, that much I know for a fact. Next I > > myself have never ever seen o r communicated with any spirits, so > > my knowledge of these things are purely theoritical. Though I have > > had the fortune of meeting a lot of tantriks and yogis who indeed > > have terrific powers. Now as far as this friend of mine goes whos > > chart I had presented, I had never been to any of his exorcisms, > > and even if I had been I would not have been able to make out how > > much is true or how much is untrue. However, there are some things > > about this guy which I know for a fact. > > > > 1)He does go into complete seclusion from period to period, and > > absolute mauni. He just wont utter a sound! > > 2) Next there have been times and quite a few during the initial > > days when I got introduced to him, when I had subjected him to some > > tests because I am very sceptikal when it comes to these kind of > > claims. He does have powers of clairvoiance, as well as seeing from > > a distance. For example, he could very well describe the specific > > details of the room I was sitting in including the color of my > > dress although we were in seperate cities. And there is no way he > > could have known this. He is definitely not the most spiritually > > advanced person I have come across (as per my evaluation), but > > since he was able to clearly exibit some powers, I found no reason > > to disbelieve him. > > > > Now these things that I have told you are facts. Not based on > > jyotish principles. Now my jyotish knowledge is quite rudimentary > > and hence its not proper for me to comment on what his chart shows. > > But from a little bit of person experience I have seen, often > > jyotish or rather jyotishis are not able to make convincing and > > brutally correct predictions when it comes to deep spirituality. > > Maybe that is where we need to go beyond just principles and use > > intution, real intution. > > Its easy to retro fit events in jyotish regarding spiritual > > experiences but convincing predictions about spiritual achievements > > of future are very rare. At least from the natal chart. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@ ...> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > Dear Rajarshi, > > > > In the Navamsa, Mercury Atmakaraka is joined the eclipse > > combination of Rahu and Sun. This is a combination for snakebite > > and poisoning as per Jaimini, and I have seen that in the chart of > > many people it shows extensive use of drugs, particularly > > hallucinagenics, as these are a type of poison. You mentioned he > > spent a lot of time drinking, but perhaps he was involved with > > other substances also. > > > > Please excuse my skeptism, but I have met a few people with their > > new age Sun in Aquarius th at are communicating with 'spirits'. He > > has Rahu aspected by a very malefic Saturn (badhakesh) in the 2nd > > house of speech which could show some lies being told. I don't > > mean to offend but I take such claims with a grain of salt. > > > > I have the same combination of Moon in Gemini rasi, Scorpio > > Navamsa, aspected by a debilitated retrograde Shani, and I have not > > yet seen, felt, or talked with any spirits. (May 7th 1981, 3:15am, > > Warsaw, Poland). > > > > The problem with being a 'light' healer and exorcist is that it is > > very difficult to quantify. The results are hard to guage. Given > > that there are such strong combinations for poverty - kemadruma > > from Lagna and AL - it is not suprising he has looked for > > alternatives to what most would call a normal job. > > > > Don't get me wrong, I definately believe that all things exist, but > > I require solid evidence, which the chart should provide. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > > > rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14@ ...> > > > > Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:28:24 AM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Interesting Profession > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you for your analysis. Yes he was born in a very influencial > > family. Infact till the age of 17 he was an incorrigible drunkard > > and would land up in fights with every one. But right from his > > childhood he could see spirits and astral beings. INfact when he > > was very young he used to believe that seeing spirits was possibly > > a normaly thing for everyone. Then I am not sure which exact year, > > but suddenly he came across a man who changed him completely. This > > man is his guru/teacher. He was given diksha and taugh various > > things in the occult. Since then this friend of mine has changed > > drastically, turning into a complete vegan, living on fruits and > > milk all these years. Gave up his alcoholism completely. Also he > > started his occult practices and became very renowned as an > > exhorcist and a healer. But he tells me exorcism is what he is more > > good at. As you have said in your analysis, he indeed has NO fear > > and he used whole lot of very powerful spirit guides for his work. > > > > He does a lot of meditation and sadhana though it is very unique > > kind of sadhana. After very serious boubts of exorcism he often > > stays mauni for weeks or even months, away from people. Complete > > silence staying in a forest area. That is his way of gaining back > > energy. I was wondering that I dont see much a tapashwi yoga in > > his chart. Except that saturn venus in trines in rasi and shani > > ketu in trines in d9, that too shani debiliated. He meditates for > > some hours daily on "Om" and during some times of the year, he > > stays away from people being completely mauni. But no mantra japa > > or anything. So was wondering how is this shown in his chart. He is > > not a hindu but during one of his sessions of meditations he came > > across some beings whom he referes to as being of light, and they > > asked him to meditate on om for protection. He had done an exorcism > > where a 4 year old girl had been posessed by some very powerfully > > evil spirits. Aand after the exorcism he himself fell very ill. > > That is when he was advised by these beings to meditate on "om". > > Also they showed him some passages from the palsms of david and > > instructing him on how these can be used againt dark beings. These > > beings of light he says were supersouls who had last incarnated in > > indian soil. Since then he has been meditating on om and has got > > great results from it. Before that he had never heard of Om. > > > > Also he has three debiliated planets in d9. Wonder what effects > > that has on him.. also shani is his tenth lord from lagna, retro > > and exhalted, and in navamsa debiliated and retro. What can that > > indicate? Does that show his indulgence in exorcism and stuff? > > > > Or maybe the moon debiliated in navamsa was the reason he could see > > sprits right from his childhood.. not sure on this. > > > > -Regards > > Rajarshi > > > > Also > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: > > kleem namah narasimhaaya > > Dear Rajrishi , Namaskar > > > > Does he come from influential family? If not then Simha Lagna would > > be accurate, otherwise Mithuna . Guru is in Lagna whilst Ketu in > > fifth are excellent (Brahminical profession), person should also be > > very able, courageous and independent - for Simha Lagna. Ma and Ch > > influencing forth from NL gives some problems with skin. Also year > > 2003 could be bad for health per D9 - check this out. > > > > Gajakesari on AL axis gives fame and status of adviser. Rahu in 12 > > gives spiritual personality, whilst Lagnesh in eight gives interest > > in occult (bphs). AL, VL and 10L from Moon - all are showing Brhaspati > > profession. But it was/is not so easy to perform due to Chandra > > debilitation (d9) which can also show some blood problems. Budha is > > also debilitated in Bhava chakra chart which can show some bad > > attitude towards career life. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > > > rajarshi nandy napisa³(a): > >> > >> Dear Mike and Michal, > >> > >> Thank you both for taking time off to analyse this chart. Really > >> appreciate it. > >> > >> Mike is pretty close to the answer I must say. This friend of mine > >> is an exorcist and pretty famous one in his own circle of magick > >> and occult. He does indeed have some occult powers which I myself > >> have experineced. > >> & n b sp; > >> Now Mike did you get the conclusion of occult and service by > >> checking the 11th lord of varnada lagna? Jupiter placed in 9th > >> house in sagitarius does indicate religious activity.Also pisces > >> happens to be the 10th lord fomr moon.. and the mars ketu yoga > >> happening in scorpio is in 10th from sun (this is how he is > >> recognizzed) .. and indeed in his work he has experienced many > >> different types of evils, astrals beings, disembodied spirits etc > >> etc. > >> > >> Also the mars exhalted in his lagna in D9 probably is the reason > >> why he also holds a degree in martial arts. > >> > >> He does stay from his town of birth but in the same country. Could > >> you tell me how did u arrive at this conclusion? > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> mikefranc01 <michael.travass@ btinternet. com>wrote: > >> Hi Rajashri, > >> 1. This person does not work in his homeland. He works away from home > >> either in the same country or outside his country. > >> 2. He is in the business of serving others. > >> 3. He is in occult or religious related matters and his income is > >> through consultancy. > >> 4. He is most probably a priest or an astrologer. > >> Mike > >> > >> , rajarshi nandy > >> <rajarshi14@ ...> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi > >> > > >> > Would anyone like to give this chart a try.. > >> > > >> > rajarshi14 <rajarshi14@ ...> wrote: > >> > Hello Everybody, > >> > > >> > The following chart belongs to a friend of mine who does a very > >> > interesting profession. Can someone find out his profession from > >> his > >> > chart? > >> > > >> > 11th of march 1984, 8:30 am, GMT + 2 (21E56, 47N04) > >> > > >> > Mesh lagna and Mithun Rasi. > >> > > >> > -Regards > >> > Rajarshi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam > >> > Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- --- > >> > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on > >> Best of . > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam > >> Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || > >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam > > Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam > > Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. 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