Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Sir, Let me try an analysis of the girls horoscope. Her janma lagnam is Dhanus.Saturn in lagnam,Rahu in two,Mars in six,Jupiter,Moon and Ketu in seven, and Mercury,Sun and Venus in ten.Mercury Mahar dasa and Moons bhukthi is between 26-3-2008 and 29-8-2009. The lord of the seventh house is Mercury and he is exalted in the tenth house.He is a Yoga Karak by vertue of his association with Sun who is the bhagyadhipathy.As Venus is in the company of his friend Mercury his debilitation stands cancelled. Of course Saturn aspects Mercury and his associates.as well as the seventh house. Moon being the Ashtamadhipathy is not evil.There is no Kuja Dosham for this horoscope.Moon in own sign and being the friend of Jupiter will help the cause of Jupiter who is exalted.Jupiter is the " Putra Karak " .So,putra Yogam. Coming to Moons lagnam,Rahu is in the seventh house from the Moon.Jupiter aspects Rahu.So the situation is not hopeless.But until the Moons bhukthi is finished probably the culmination of the event od wedding may get postponed for some time.. For instance,between 4-2-2008 and 26-3-2008 similar attempts might have been stalled.Isnt it?.I think that when Jupiter transits to Makharam the question of wedding will be settled once and for all if the wedding doesnt materialise now. This girl will have a mole or scar in her leg near the knee joint. Regards, Jagannathan. On 5/1/08, Prabhu Ganesh <pilsnerandco wrote: Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Rajarshi, We thank you deeply.rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 wrote: Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Swami, Namashkar, The problem is as below : Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michalrajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om,Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh,Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children.I think some misunderstanding is the cause.It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group.May be some concrete solution may emerge.Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected.With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --- Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM[Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology,As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and theproblem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted twotop rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance,and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Puneand most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and herlife could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti NaiduOctober 12th 1990 12:06 PMBorn in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama SuryaAugust 26 1982 13:26 PMBorn in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you!Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Prabhu Ganesh, Sometimes People commit errors in understanding Data conveyed to them. Malysia had several time zone variations.Although you have quoted TZ 8 is to be taken.But for girl in Bombay , it could be possible that Astrologers might have taken midnight . To my memory you did mention 12:06PM. PM to me means mid day. If one takes midnight IT is mangalik Kundali. Any way matching calls for caution and kuta matching is given undue weightege, whereas there are more important factors also to be properly analysed. Since marriage is already cancelled, I stop here. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh swami Friday, May 02, 2008 9:25 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Swami-ji, Thank you for your note! I apologize for wrongly interpreting your thoughts. Indeed, yes you are right - they sounded very melodramatic! The girl's mother is very sick, hence she wanted to see her daughter get married to my cousin because, there is just no one else to bridge the gap between these two families. Ideally, we could not understand on how astrologers in pune/bombay have okayed the match, saying both of them are manglik, so its ok?. Is there any way out for her sir? Appreciate your kind thoughts and time on this. swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear Prabhu Ganesh, I was referring about the reasons put forth by Astrologers from Malaysia " that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death!" Yes simply kota) matching pints) are less and certain things like Bhakkota , nadi match is missing does not mean, what has been concluded. Time of marriage for girl is not yet arrived. so remedies or no remedies is a different question. I have not checked praptam and rinu bandhan threfore I did not offer remedies but Jyotish needs carefully application. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS (http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who hascreated the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh ; swami Friday, May 02, 2008 5:30 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Swami, Namashkar, The problem is as below : Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipataye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvastu.com] -----------------------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."-- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh To: @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Vistiji, Clearly shows why you are regarded as a Master. Sincere gratitude from all of us! I will forward this at once. As you can see, there are very few i came into contact with in Malaysia who could not really help. May god bless and protect you. Visti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match.When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars.My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse.Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date.The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|I hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match.When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars.My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse.Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date.The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|I hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh To: @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar Do you expect the planets in 7th from UL to play a role in this case? I can see Mercury is exalted and Sun is strong in D9 but Venus is debilitated. Would these planets play a role after the marriage takes place or even before? I have one more doubt about your comment “see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is.“  Does this mean that planets in 7H from UL will obstruct in subsequent marriages too?  Best Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, May 02, 2008 6:45 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh @ . com Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination.Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar.The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband.The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match.When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars.My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse.Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date.The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|I hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Ramesh, Namaskar. I think your mixing up a few things. The LORD of the seventh from Upapada shows how we are giving to the world, and more accurately how you are repaying your debt to the rishis - marriage is one of the major events here. That lord being a planet shows YOUR actions in matters of repaying that debt. The planets posited in the seventh HOUSE from Upapada shows people or circumstances, or even ideals (refer Ramakrishna) which can moderate or even obstruct the first marriage to happen. So the LORD is lifelong. The house is just for that marriage. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Ramesh F. Gangaramani skrev: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat  Dear Visti, Namaskar  Do you expect the planets in 7th from UL to play a role in this case? I can see Mercury is exalted and Sun is strong in D9 but Venus is debilitated. Would these planets play a role after the marriage takes place or even before?  I have one more doubt about your comment “see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is.“  Does this mean that planets in 7H from UL will obstruct in subsequent marriages too?   Best Regards Ramesh    On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Friday, May 02, 2008 6:45 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!  हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti,  Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate?  Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards  Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu,  I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna.  As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune.  All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her.  -Regards  Rajarshi  swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:          || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah  Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this  to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes.  OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh @ . com Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!  Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!!  She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death!  I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune.  The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off.  Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen?  I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come.  Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this!  Her Details  Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India  His Detail  Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8)   According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart!  I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent.  Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam  Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group.  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.  size=1 width="100%" align=center> Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours . Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh To: @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life. c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava. e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva. Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Visti Larsen napisał(a): हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours . Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunity which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh To: @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti and Rafal,I am trying to understand a few of these recent points in light of what I have learned previously.1) Primary curse has often been stated as the planet recieving the most malefic aspects. In this case Venus is conjoined Sun and aspected by Saturn and Rahu. However you have said Jupiter is the main curse due to conjunction with Ketu and aspect of Rahu. I understand secondary curses can sometimes give more suffering.2) Rafal mentions if AK is involved then Jyotirlinga mantras are prescribed, however Shani AK has not got a direct influence on the Jupiter curse. Is a jyotirlinga mantra also working at the level of the bhava devata since it is Shiva (8th house - Vayu tattva)?Respectfully,MichalRafal Gendarz <starsuponme Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:43:07 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Guruji, Namaskar If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life. c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava. e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva. Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God. Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours . Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.-Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om,Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh,Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children.I think some misunderstanding is the cause.It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group.May be some concrete solution may emerge.Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected.With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AMSubject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology,As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and theproblem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted twotop rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance,and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Puneand most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and herlife could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti NaiduOctober 12th 1990 12:06 PMBorn in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama SuryaAugust 26 1982 13:26 PMBorn in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you!Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Dear Visti, Rafal and Michal First of all thank you Rafal for explaninig once again. My doubts are exactly what Michal has mentioned. Yes this is the technique what I also try to follow, you had explanined the same to me sometime back and it seems perfectly logical. In this specific case my doubt was, in case of the 3rd option where the dipositor as well as karaka is not helping, do we naturall choose the jotirlinga for exhaltation of the planet that is getting curse as Visti has pointed out in the solution. Because I was under the impression that jyotirlinga mantras are used when AK is involved, as Rafal has mentioned. I think I am getting a little confused here. Also I was reading Visti's reply to Ramesh regarding the 7th lord from UL shwoing how we repay debts. Now in one of Visti's lectures on his website he beautifuly explains how the UL can show whether we are choosing jupiters path or shani's path for repaying debts. So what is the difference between UL lord and 7th LORD from UL. Do they together show the same thing, i.e. how we repay our debts? Thanks to both of you for helping me clear my basics of jyotish. -Regards Rajarshi Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti and Rafal,I am trying to understand a few of these recent points in light of what I have learned previously.1) Primary curse has often been stated as the planet recieving the most malefic aspects. In this case Venus is conjoined Sun and aspected by Saturn and Rahu. However you have said Jupiter is the main curse due to conjunction with Ketu and aspect of Rahu. I understand secondary curses can sometimes give more suffering.2) Rafal mentions if AK is involved then Jyotirlinga mantras are prescribed, however Shani AK has not got a direct influence on the Jupiter curse. Is a jyotirlinga mantra also working at the level of the bhava devata since it is Shiva (8th house - Vayu tattva)?Respectfully,Michal Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:43:07 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Guruji, NamaskarIf it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chartb) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava.e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva.Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comVisti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours .Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination.Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar.The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband.The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match.When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars.My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse.Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date.The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|I hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi and Michal, Namaskar. If in a curse neither the dispositor nor karaka are helping then the bhava-devata is chosen. For the dusthanas the bhava-devata is Shiva, which you would be able to read from Rafals and my own talks and writings on the subject. Particularly we would then choose the Shiva-jyotirlinga form of the planet cursed, i.e. in this case Jupiter. The Upapada itself shows the nature of the giving, and this is compelled by the people we meet. If the marital options you get are of people who don't encourage you to marry, then what sort of debt are you repaying? Now, Upapada shows the marital-options, whilst the arudha lagna shows you. So its not enough for merely Saturn to be associated with UL to make one a bachelor because we need to see your view also. Hence Saturn must be linked to both AL and UL to make one live like a bachelor. Yet, the seventh lord from UL can change all of this and compell you to marry or otherwise. Take the chart of Aurobindo. Aurobindo Ghosh August 15, 1872 Time: 5:08:00 am Time Zone: 5:53:00 (East of GMT) Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 32' 00" Saturn doesn't associate with Upapada nor Arudha lagna at all. Neither graha nor rasi dristi, nor any yoga with the lords of the same. Conclusion: This guy doesn't live like a bachelor per-say, and encourages the idea of marriage. Yet, the seventh lord from Upapada is Mars and despite receiving neecha bhanga yoga, is placed in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka Mercury. Mars being a malefic and considering Mercury as his enemy would thus promote experiences where he sees that marriage in all its facets is a cause of bondage for this Atma (ak). This can be enough for him to shy away from the concept of marriage. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Rafal and Michal First of all thank you Rafal for explaninig once again. My doubts are exactly what Michal has mentioned. Yes this is the technique what I also try to follow, you had explanined the same to me sometime back and it seems perfectly logical. In this specific case my doubt was, in case of the 3rd option where the dipositor as well as karaka is not helping, do we naturall choose the jotirlinga for exhaltation of the planet that is getting curse as Visti has pointed out in the solution. Because I was under the impression that jyotirlinga mantras are used when AK is involved, as Rafal has mentioned. I think I am getting a little confused here. Also I was reading Visti's reply to Ramesh regarding the 7th lord from UL shwoing how we repay debts. Now in one of Visti's lectures on his website he beautifuly explains how the UL can show whether we are choosing jupiters path or shani's path for repaying debts. So what is the difference between UL lord and 7th LORD from UL. Do they together show the same thing, i.e. how we repay our debts? Thanks to both of you for helping me clear my basics of jyotish. -Regards Rajarshi Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Visti and Rafal, I am trying to understand a few of these recent points in light of what I have learned previously. 1) Primary curse has often been stated as the planet recieving the most malefic aspects. In this case Venus is conjoined Sun and aspected by Saturn and Rahu. However you have said Jupiter is the main curse due to conjunction with Ketu and aspect of Rahu. I understand secondary curses can sometimes give more suffering. 2) Rafal mentions if AK is involved then Jyotirlinga mantras are prescribed, however Shani AK has not got a direct influence on the Jupiter curse. Is a jyotirlinga mantra also working at the level of the bhava devata since it is Shiva (8th house - Vayu tattva)? Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:43:07 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life. c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava. e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva. Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours . Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. < /DIV> -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun , debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh To: @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Dear Visti, Thank you for your explanantions. I think I am getting the hang of it now. After going through this exmaple of Sri Aurobindo's chart and your artile of atmabandhana, I was wondering if the mars in 12 also indicates some sort of atma bandhana. Not too sure how this would be interpreted in the light of bandhana. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Rajarshi and Michal, Namaskar.If in a curse neither the dispositor nor karaka are helping then the bhava-devata is chosen.For the dusthanas the bhava-devata is Shiva, which you would be able to read from Rafals and my own talks and writings on the subject. Particularly we would then choose the Shiva-jyotirlinga form of the planet cursed, i.e. in this case Jupiter.The Upapada itself shows the nature of the giving, and this is compelled by the people we meet. If the marital options you get are of people who don't encourage you to marry, then what sort of debt are you repaying?Now, Upapada shows the marital-options, whilst the arudha lagna shows you. So its not enough for merely Saturn to be associated with UL to make one a bachelor because we need to see your view also. Hence Saturn must be linked to both AL and UL to make one live like a bachelor.Yet, the seventh lord from UL can change all of this and compell you to marry or otherwise.Take the chart of Aurobindo.Aurobindo Ghosh August 15, 1872Time: 5:08:00 amTime Zone: 5:53:00 (East of GMT)Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 32' 00"Saturn doesn't associate with Upapada nor Arudha lagna at all. Neither graha nor rasi dristi, nor any yoga with the lords of the same. Conclusion: This guy doesn't live like a bachelor per-say, and encourages the idea of marriage.Yet, the seventh lord from Upapada is Mars and despite receiving neecha bhanga yoga, is placed in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka Mercury. Mars being a malefic and considering Mercury as his enemy would thus promote experiences where he sees that marriage in all its facets is a cause of bondage for this Atma (ak). This can be enough for him to shy away from the concept of marriage.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Rafal and Michal First of all thank you Rafal for explaninig once again. My doubts are exactly what Michal has mentioned. Yes this is the technique what I also try to follow, you had explanined the same to me sometime back and it seems perfectly logical. In this specific case my doubt was, in case of the 3rd option where the dipositor as well as karaka is not helping, do we naturall choose the jotirlinga for exhaltation of the planet that is getting curse as Visti has pointed out in the solution. Because I was under the impression that jyotirlinga mantras are used when AK is involved, as Rafal has mentioned. I think I am getting a little confused here. Also I was reading Visti's reply to Ramesh regarding the 7th lord from UL shwoing how we repay debts. Now in one of Visti's lectures on his website he beautifuly explains how the UL can show whether we are choosing jupiters path or shani's path for repaying debts. So what is the difference between UL lord and 7th LORD from UL. Do they together show the same thing, i.e. how we repay our debts? Thanks to both of you for helping me clear my basics of jyotish. -Regards Rajarshi Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti and Rafal,I am trying to understand a few of these recent points in light of what I have learned previously.1) Primary curse has often been stated as the planet recieving the most malefic aspects. In this case Venus is conjoined Sun and aspected by Saturn and Rahu. However you have said Jupiter is the main curse due to conjunction with Ketu and aspect of Rahu. I understand secondary curses can sometimes give more suffering.2) Rafal mentions if AK is involved then Jyotirlinga mantras are prescribed, however Shani AK has not got a direct influence on the Jupiter curse. Is a jyotirlinga mantra also working at the level of the bhava devata since it is Shiva (8th house - Vayu tattva)?Respectfully,Michal Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:43:07 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Guruji, NamaskarIf it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chartb) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava.e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva.Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comVisti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours .Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination.Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar.The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband.The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.< /DIV> -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match.When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun , debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars.My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse.Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date.The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|I hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neither Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Groups. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Your right, he went to jail. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your explanantions. I think I am getting the hang of it now. After going through this exmaple of Sri Aurobindo's chart and your artile of atmabandhana, I was wondering if the mars in 12 also indicates some sort of atma bandhana. Not too sure how this would be interpreted in the light of bandhana. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi and Michal, Namaskar. If in a curse neither the dispositor nor karaka are helping then the bhava-devata is chosen. For the dusthanas the bhava-devata is Shiva, which you would be able to read from Rafals and my own talks and writings on the subject. Particularly we would then choose the Shiva-jyotirlinga form of the planet cursed, i.e. in this case Jupiter. The Upapada itself shows the nature of the giving, and this is compelled by the people we meet. If the marital options you get are of people who don't encourage you to marry, then what sort of debt are you repaying? Now, Upapada shows the marital-options, whilst the arudha lagna shows you. So its not enough for merely Saturn to be associated with UL to make one a bachelor because we need to see your view also. Hence Saturn must be linked to both AL and UL to make one live like a bachelor. Yet, the seventh lord from UL can change all of this and compell you to marry or otherwise. Take the chart of Aurobindo. Aurobindo Ghosh August 15, 1872 Time: 5:08:00 am Time Zone: 5:53:00 (East of GMT) Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 32' 00" Saturn doesn't associate with Upapada nor Arudha lagna at all. Neither graha nor rasi dristi, nor any yoga with the lords of the same. Conclusion: This guy doesn't live like a bachelor per-say, and encourages the idea of marriage. Yet, the seventh lord from Upapada is Mars and despite receiving neecha bhanga yoga, is placed in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka Mercury. Mars being a malefic and considering Mercury as his enemy would thus promote experiences where he sees that marriage in all its facets is a cause of bondage for this Atma (ak). This can be enough for him to shy away from the concept of marriage. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Rafal and Michal First of all thank you Rafal for explaninig once again. My doubts are exactly what Michal has mentioned. Yes this is the technique what I also try to follow, you had explanined the same to me sometime back and it seems perfectly logical. In this specific case my doubt was, in case of the 3rd option where the dipositor as well as karaka is not helping, do we naturall choose the jotirlinga for exhaltation of the planet that is getting curse as Visti has pointed out in the solution. Because I was under the impression that jyotirlinga mantras are used when AK is involved, as Rafal has mentioned. I think I am getting a little confused here. Also I was reading Visti's reply to Ramesh regarding the 7th lord from UL shwoing how we repay debts. Now in one of Visti's lectures on his website he beautifuly explains how the UL can show whether we are choosing jupiters path or shani's path for repaying debts. So what is the difference between UL lord and 7th LORD from UL. Do they together show the same thing, i.e. how we repay our debts? Thanks to both of you for helping me clear my basics of jyotish. -Regards Rajarshi Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Visti and Rafal, I am trying to understand a few of these recent points in light of what I have learned previously. 1) Primary curse has often been stated as the planet recieving the most malefic aspects. In this case Venus is conjoined Sun and aspected by Saturn and Rahu. However you have said Jupiter is the main curse due to conjunction with Ketu and aspect of Rahu. I understand secondary curses can sometimes give more suffering. 2) Rafal mentions if AK is involved then Jyotirlinga mantras are prescribed, however Shani AK has not got a direct influence on the Jupiter curse. Is a jyotirlinga mantra als o working at the level of the bhava devata since it is Shiva (8th house - Vayu tattva)? Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:43:07 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life. c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava. e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva. Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours . Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti@sri garuda. com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar. Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination. Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar. The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband. The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga. < /DIV> -Regards Rajarshi Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar. If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match. When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada. Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun , debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn. So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo. The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved. The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars. My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse. Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date. The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah| I hope this helps. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all, How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet. The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge. The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage. Respectfully, Michal ----- Original Message ---- rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in> Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neithe r Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- ----- Original Message ----- Prabhu Ganesh To: @ . com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Dear Visti, Yes, I had absolutely forgotten Sri Aurobindo had gone to jail. Yes you are right. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Rajarshi, Namaskar.Your right, he went to jail.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your explanantions. I think I am getting the hang of it now. After going through this exmaple of Sri Aurobindo's chart and your artile of atmabandhana, I was wondering if the mars in 12 also indicates some sort of atma bandhana. Not too sure how this would be interpreted in the light of bandhana. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृष्णDear Rajarshi and Michal, Namaskar.If in a curse neither the dispositor nor karaka are helping then the bhava-devata is chosen.For the dusthanas the bhava-devata is Shiva, which you would be able to read from Rafals and my own talks and writings on the subject. Particularly we would then choose the Shiva-jyotirlinga form of the planet cursed, i.e. in this case Jupiter.The Upapada itself shows the nature of the giving, and this is compelled by the people we meet. If the marital options you get are of people who don't encourage you to marry, then what sort of debt are you repaying?Now, Upapada shows the marital-options, whilst the arudha lagna shows you. So its not enough for merely Saturn to be associated with UL to make one a bachelor because we need to see your view also. Hence Saturn must be linked to both AL and UL to make one live like a bachelor.Yet, the seventh lord from UL can change all of this and compell you to marry or otherwise.Take the chart of Aurobindo.Aurobindo Ghosh August 15, 1872Time: 5:08:00 amTime Zone: 5:53:00 (East of GMT)Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 32' 00"Saturn doesn't associate with Upapada nor Arudha lagna at all. Neither graha nor rasi dristi, nor any yoga with the lords of the same. Conclusion: This guy doesn't live like a bachelor per-say, and encourages the idea of marriage.Yet, the seventh lord from Upapada is Mars and despite receiving neecha bhanga yoga, is placed in the twelfth from the Atmakaraka Mercury. Mars being a malefic and considering Mercury as his enemy would thus promote experiences where he sees that marriage in all its facets is a cause of bondage for this Atma (ak). This can be enough for him to shy away from the concept of marriage.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Rafal and Michal First of all thank you Rafal for explaninig once again. My doubts are exactly what Michal has mentioned. Yes this is the technique what I also try to follow, you had explanined the same to me sometime back and it seems perfectly logical. In this specific case my doubt was, in case of the 3rd option where the dipositor as well as karaka is not helping, do we naturall choose the jotirlinga for exhaltation of the planet that is getting curse as Visti has pointed out in the solution. Because I was under the impression that jyotirlinga mantras are used when AK is involved, as Rafal has mentioned. I think I am getting a little confused here. Also I was reading Visti's reply to Ramesh regarding the 7th lord from UL shwoing how we repay debts. Now in one of Visti's lectures on his website he beautifuly explains how the UL can show whether we are choosing jupiters path or shani's path for repaying debts. So what is the difference between UL lord and 7th LORD from UL. Do they together show the same thing, i.e. how we repay our debts? Thanks to both of you for helping me clear my basics of jyotish. -Regards Rajarshi Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti and Rafal,I am trying to understand a few of these recent points in light of what I have learned previously.1) Primary curse has often been stated as the planet recieving the most malefic aspects. In this case Venus is conjoined Sun and aspected by Saturn and Rahu. However you have said Jupiter is the main curse due to conjunction with Ketu and aspect of Rahu. I understand secondary curses can sometimes give more suffering.2) Rafal mentions if AK is involved then Jyotirlinga mantras are prescribed, however Shani AK has not got a direct influence on the Jupiter curse. Is a jyotirlinga mantra als o working at the level of the bhava devata since it is Shiva (8th house - Vayu tattva)?Respectfully,Michal Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2008 6:43:07 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! kleem namah narasimhaayaDear Guruji, NamaskarIf it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to 'dance'. a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chartb) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata scheme per BPHS/Tantra. d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose Devata of the Bhava.e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise praying to Ishta Deva.Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.Regards,Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacherwww: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comVisti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the floor is yours .Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti@sri garuda. com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed (say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga mantra for the planet? And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we have to add any more words/beejas to it? Thanks for your replies. -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open and the prayers will not reach their destination.Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my way with grammar.The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse. Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from the husband.The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you have been given so far until you learn something new.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti, Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have a doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate? Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.< /DIV> -Regards RajarshiVisti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their intentions wrt. to this match.When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined the Sun , debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system issues due to the planet being Mars.My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any karmas associated with the spouse.Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage, or before the couple unites after the wedding date.The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|I hope this helps.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Michal Dziwulski skrev: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed planet.The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.Respectfully,Michal rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Prabhu, I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna. As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse. Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL. This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th house can cause some degree of ill fortune. All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces regarding marriage. She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma lakshmi and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her. -Regards Rajarshi swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah Hari Om, Dear ,Prabhu Ganesh, Neithe r Girl is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with marriage of these children. I think some misunderstanding is the cause. It will be pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How they see denial and post this to group. May be some concrete solution may emerge. Some time because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------Swami_RCS http:\\www.kaalvast u.com] ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Prabhu Ganesh Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off! Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology, As i had written before about the marriage of my cousin brother to his bride in India, and the problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did not get any reply hence we consulted two top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say that being manglik least of importance, and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow marriage at all!!!! She has no such blessing to get married, and if my cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead to his death! I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this, since the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the Kundli from a few pandits in pune. The marriage set in November (with invitation cards all out) is at the verge of being called off. Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at this point? to ever make this happen? I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know how it is! she is from a small town in Pune and most of the folks there are already being informed about the marriage, and her life could be probably be ruined for years to come. Please lend your expertise and see if we can save this! Her Details Deepti Naidu October 12th 1990 12:06 PM Born in Bombay, India His Detail Theeban Vicrama Surya August 26 1982 13:26 PM Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8) According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out anything with the girls chart! I Sincerely Thank all of you! Please suggest any remedy to any extent. Thank you. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Aditya Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam Jayavaham Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam || Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. 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