Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 JAI SRIRAM Dear Swee, Rudhira and blood stone are same or not? Is it for Sun or Mars Thanks, VenkateshSwee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player, Namaste On heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas. As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire. Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??] Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone. The sins go along in a retinue. So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin. As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm. BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields. From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king ) love, Swee p/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box. On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote: Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones. Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart player ----- Original Message ----Venkatesh S <ksvssvk >sohamsa Sen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones JAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Mike, Namaste Much as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam. As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale. NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out. (much like euthanasia, isn't it?) love, Swee On 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote: Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mikesohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. 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