Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Namaksar, This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem stone that he is wearing He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However, once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue and suffers from gastric problems. Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india His details for rectification are as follows First Job: 1997 Marriage : June 1999 has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) Please advise Thanks Suchitra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Suchitra, Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth time of 12 noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is kaltrakarka, Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional malefic plus marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling good about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot associate Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of rectification. Hope others will respond to your question too. Best Regards Ramesh Ramesh F. Ganagaramani 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA) Tel: 410-588-6244 Email: rgangaramani On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones Namaksar, This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem stone that he is wearing He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However, once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue and suffers from gastric problems. Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india His details for rectification are as follows First Job: 1997 Marriage : June 1999 has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) Please advise Thanks Suchitra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Namaskar Ramesh, Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings. Kumbha lagna charts; 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, so that chart was not deemed reliable) 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that lagna should be kumbha) meena lagna 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit) 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for Meena lagna What other information do you need for rectification?I can provide you answers if you have any specific queries. FYI His first trip abroad; May 2000 He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001 Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996 Thanks Suchitra , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " <rgangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth time of 12 > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is kaltrakarka, > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional malefic plus > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling good > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot associate > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of rectification. Hope > others will respond to your question too. > > > > Best Regards > > Ramesh > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA) > > Tel: 410-588-6244 > > Email: <rgangaramani rgangaramani > > > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones > > > > Namaksar, > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem > stone that he is wearing > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However, > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue and > suffers from gastric problems. > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india > > His details for rectification are as follows > > First Job: 1997 > > Marriage : June 1999 > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) > > Please advise > > Thanks > > Suchitra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Suchitra, You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. Here is what I know; Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium stature, Stout, strong personality Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale complexion, Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because Pisces is a watery sign. Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close! Best Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Namaskar Ramesh, Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings. Kumbha lagna charts; 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, so that chart was not deemed reliable) 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that lagna should be kumbha) meena lagna 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit) 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for Meena lagna What other information do you need for rectification?I can provide you answers if you have any specific queries. FYI His first trip abroad; May 2000 He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001 Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996 Thanks Suchitra , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " <rgangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth time of 12 > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is kaltrakarka, > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional malefic plus > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling good > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot associate > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of rectification. Hope > others will respond to your question too. > > > > Best Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA) > > Tel: 410-588-6244 > > Email: <rgangaramani rgangaramani > > > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones > > > > Namaksar, > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem > stone that he is wearing > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However, > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue and > suffers from gastric problems. > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india > > His details for rectification are as follows > > First Job: 1997 > > Marriage : June 1999 > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) > > Please advise > > Thanks > > Suchitra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Namaskar Ramesh The person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a mole on face. He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by Indian standards. Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills. Thanks Suchitra , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " <rgangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. Here is what > I know; > > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium stature, > Stout, strong personality > > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale complexion, > Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because Pisces is a > watery sign. > > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close! > > > > Best Regards > > Ramesh > > > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > > > Namaskar Ramesh, > > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings. > > Kumbha lagna charts; > 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, so > that chart was not deemed reliable) > > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that > lagna should be kumbha) > > meena lagna > 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit) > > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for > Meena lagna > > What other information do you need for rectification?I can provide > you answers if you have any specific queries. > > FYI > His first trip abroad; May 2000 > > He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001 > > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996 > > Thanks > Suchitra > > @ <%40> > , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " > <rgangaramani@> wrote: > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth > time of 12 > > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is > kaltrakarka, > > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. > > > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional > malefic plus > > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling > good > > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot > associate > > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm > > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of > rectification. Hope > > others will respond to your question too. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani > > > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C > > > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA) > > > > Tel: 410-588-6244 > > > > Email: <rgangaramani@> rgangaramani@ > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40> > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM > > @ <%40> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones > > > > > > > > Namaksar, > > > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem > > stone that he is wearing > > > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he > > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However, > > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue > and > > suffers from gastric problems. > > > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him > > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. > > > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for > > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born > > > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india > > > > His details for rectification are as follows > > > > First Job: 1997 > > > > Marriage : June 1999 > > > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) > > > > Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > > Suchitra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Suchitra, He looks more like Aquarius lagna to me. Strengthening Jupiter by wearing its gemstone may not be a great idea if it is 2L and 11L. Propitiating any planet is fine. Best Regards Ramesh On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath Friday, April 11, 2008 1:32 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Namaskar Ramesh The person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a mole on face. He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by Indian standards. Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills. Thanks Suchitra , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " <rgangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. Here is what > I know; > > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium stature, > Stout, strong personality > > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale complexion, > Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because Pisces is a > watery sign. > > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close! > > > > Best Regards > > Ramesh > > > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > > > Namaskar Ramesh, > > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings. > > Kumbha lagna charts; > 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, so > that chart was not deemed reliable) > > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that > lagna should be kumbha) > > meena lagna > 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit) > > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for > Meena lagna > > What other information do you need for rectification?I can provide > you answers if you have any specific queries. > > FYI > His first trip abroad; May 2000 > > He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001 > > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996 > > Thanks > Suchitra > > @ <%40> > , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " > <rgangaramani@> wrote: > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth > time of 12 > > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is > kaltrakarka, > > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. > > > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional > malefic plus > > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling > good > > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot > associate > > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm > > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of > rectification. Hope > > others will respond to your question too. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani > > > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C > > > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA) > > > > Tel: 410-588-6244 > > > > Email: <rgangaramani@> rgangaramani@ > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40> > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM > > @ <%40> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones > > > > > > > > Namaksar, > > > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem > > stone that he is wearing > > > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he > > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However, > > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue > and > > suffers from gastric problems. > > > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him > > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. > > > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for > > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born > > > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india > > > > His details for rectification are as follows > > > > First Job: 1997 > > > > Marriage : June 1999 > > > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) > > > > Please advise > > > > Thanks > > > > Suchitra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Succhitra, What you have given above, should indicate Meena Lagna. Meena Lagna explains the mole on face, not Kumbha Lagna. It should be either on the right side of the nose (close to it) or right side of chin. Due to Parivartana of Shukra and Guru in drishkona chart a location of moles may change, however, Meena Lagna is the correct one. Zoran RadosavljevicSiva Devaguru Brihaspati Centrewww.siva-edu.110mb.compersonal blog:www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com - suchitra_kamath Friday, April 11, 2008 7:31 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Namaskar RameshThe person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a mole on face.He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by Indian standards.Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills.ThanksSuchitra , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <rgangaramani wrote:>> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Suchitra,> > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. Here is what> I know;> > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium stature,> Stout, strong personality> > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale complexion,> Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because Pisces is a> watery sign.> > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > _____ > > On> Behalf Of suchitra_kamath> Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones> > > > Namaskar Ramesh,> > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings.> > Kumbha lagna charts;> 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, so > that chart was not deemed reliable)> > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that > lagna should be kumbha)> > meena lagna> 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit)> > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for > Meena lagna> > What other information do you need for rectification?I can provide > you answers if you have any specific queries.> > FYI> His first trip abroad; May 2000> > He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001> > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996> > Thanks> Suchitra> > @ <%40>> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <rgangaramani@> wrote:> >> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra,> > > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth > time of 12> > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is > kaltrakarka,> > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9.> > > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional > malefic plus> > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling > good> > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot > associate> > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm> > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of > rectification. Hope> > others will respond to your question too.> > > > > > > > Best Regards> > > > Ramesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani> > > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C> > > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA)> > > > Tel: 410-588-6244> > > > Email: <rgangaramani@> rgangaramani@> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40>> > [@ <%40>> ] On> > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath> > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM> > @ <%40> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones> > > > > > > > Namaksar,> > > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem> > stone that he is wearing> > > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before he> > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However,> > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue > and> > suffers from gastric problems.> > > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him> > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies.> > > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for> > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born> > > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india> > > > His details for rectification are as follows> > > > First Job: 1997> > > > Marriage : June 1999> > > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006)> > > > Please advise> > > > Thanks> > > > Suchitra> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Succhitra, What you have given above, should indicate Meena Lagna. Meena Lagna explains the mole on face, not Kumbha Lagna. It should be either on the right side of the nose (close to it) or right side of chin. Due to Parivartana of Shukra and Guru in drishkona chart a location of moles may change, however, Meena Lagna is the correct one. , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " <rgangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > He looks more like Aquarius lagna to me. Strengthening Jupiter by wearing > its gemstone may not be a great idea if it is 2L and 11L. Propitiating any > planet is fine. > > > > Best Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > Friday, April 11, 2008 1:32 PM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > > > Namaskar Ramesh > > The person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a > mole on face. > > He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by > Indian standards. > > Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills. > > Thanks > Suchitra > > @ <%40> > , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " > <rgangaramani@> wrote: > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > > > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. > Here is what > > I know; > > > > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium > stature, > > Stout, strong personality > > > > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale > complexion, > > Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because > Pisces is a > > watery sign. > > > > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close! > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <%40> > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > > Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM > > @ <%40> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > > > > > > > Namaskar Ramesh, > > > > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , > > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings. > > > > Kumbha lagna charts; > > 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an > > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, > so > > that chart was not deemed reliable) > > > > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that > > lagna should be kumbha) > > > > meena lagna > > 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit) > > > > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for > > Meena lagna > > > > What other information do you need for rectification?I can provide > > you answers if you have any specific queries. > > > > FYI > > His first trip abroad; May 2000 > > > > He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001 > > > > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996 > > > > Thanks > > Suchitra > > > > @ <%40> > > , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " > > <rgangaramani@> wrote: > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > > > > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth > > time of 12 > > > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is > > kaltrakarka, > > > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. > > > > > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional > > malefic plus > > > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his > feeling > > good > > > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot > > associate > > > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm > > > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of > > rectification. Hope > > > others will respond to your question too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani > > > > > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C > > > > > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA) > > > > > > Tel: 410-588-6244 > > > > > > Email: <rgangaramani@> rgangaramani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On > > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > > > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM > > > @ <%40> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaksar, > > > > > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem > > > stone that he is wearing > > > > > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before > he > > > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit > always.However, > > > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue > > and > > > suffers from gastric problems. > > > > > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him > > > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. > > > > > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better > for > > > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born > > > > > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india > > > > > > His details for rectification are as follows > > > > > > First Job: 1997 > > > > > > Marriage : June 1999 > > > > > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) > > > > > > Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Suchitra > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya hello to everybody I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could aggravate the situation. Smart Player Ramesh F. Gangaramani <rgangaramani Sent: Saturday, 12 April, 2008 2:09:58 AMRE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Suchitra, He looks more like Aquarius lagna to me. Strengthening Jupiter by wearing its gemstone may not be a great idea if it is 2L and 11L. Propitiating any planet is fine. Best Regards Ramesh [ ] On Behalf Of suchitra_kamathFriday, April 11, 2008 1:32 PM[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Namaskar RameshThe person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a mole on face.He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by Indian standards.Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills.ThanksSuchitra, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <rgangaramani@ ...> wrote:>> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > Dear Suchitra,> > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. Here is what> I know;> > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium stature,> Stout, strong personality> > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale complexion,> Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because Pisces is a> watery sign.> > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close!> > > > Best Regards> > Ramesh> > > > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of suchitra_kamath> Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones> > > > Namaskar Ramesh,> > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings.> > Kumbha lagna charts;> 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, so > that chart was not deemed reliable)> > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that > lagna should be kumbha)> > meena lagna> 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit)> > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for > Meena lagna> > What other information do you need for rectification? I can provide > you answers if you have any specific queries.> > FYI> His first trip abroad; May 2000> > He migrated to USA ( currently there) March 2001> > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996> > Thanks> Suchitra> > @ <srijagannat h%40. com>> . com, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" > <rgangaramani@ > wrote:> >> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra,> > > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth > time of 12> > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is > kaltrakarka,> > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9.> > > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional > malefic plus> > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his feeling > good> > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot > associate> > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm> > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of > rectification. Hope> > others will respond to your question too.> > > > > > > > Best Regards> > > > Ramesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani> > > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct. , Apt C> > > > Baltimore , MD , 21237 ( USA )> > > > Tel: 410-588-6244> > > > Email: <rgangaraman i@> rgangaramani@> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > @ <srijagannat h%40. com>> . com > [srijagannat h@ <srijagannat h%40. com>> . com] On> > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath> > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM> > @ <srijagannat h%40. com> . com> > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones> > > > > > > > Namaksar,> > > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem> > stone that he is wearing> > > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time..Before he> > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit always.However,> > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue > and> > suffers from gastric problems.> > > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him> > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies.> > > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better for> > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born> > > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india> > > > His details for rectification are as follows> > > > First Job: 1997> > > > Marriage : June 1999> > > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006)> > > > Please advise> > > > Thanks> > > > Suchitra> >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Smart Player, Namaste An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body. Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitations can also happen over time. If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become sterile. So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz. love, Swee > , smart player <smartdude75 > wrote: >> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya >> >> hello to everybody >> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could > aggravate the situation. >> >> Smart Player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Namaskar Zoran, This person has a mole on left cheek- in the middle of the left cheek. Why do you say that mole indicates pisces lagna? I know a few pisces lagna people with no mole on face? Please clarify Thanks Suchitraahimsavm <ahimsans wrote: Dear Suchitra,My mail has not gone through the list, do not know why. So I ampasting it. For the interest of others, you may forward it to thelist.Best wishesZoranOm Namah Shivaya,Dear Suchitra,What you have given above, should indicate Meena Lagna. Meena Lagnaexplains the mole on face, not Kumbha Lagna.It should be either on the right side of the nose (close to it) orright side of chin. Due to Parivartana of Shukra and Guru indrishkona chart a location of moles may change, however, Meena Lagnais the correct one. , "suchitra_kamath"wrote:>> Namaskar Ramesh>> The person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a> mole on face.>> He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by> Indian standards.>> Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills.>> Thanks> Suchitra>> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> wrote:> >> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> >> >> >> > Dear Suchitra,> >> > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna.> Here is what> > I know;> >> > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium> stature,> > Stout, strong personality> >> > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale> complexion,> > Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because> Pisces is a> > watery sign.> >> > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close!> >> >> >> > Best Regards> >> > Ramesh> >> >> >> > _____> >> > > On> > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath> > Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones> >> >> >> > Namaskar Ramesh,> >> > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for KumbhaLagna ,> > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings.> >> > Kumbha lagna charts;> > 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an> > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing thechart,> so> > that chart was not deemed reliable)> >> > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that> > lagna should be kumbha)> >> > meena lagna> > 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit)> >> > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chartfor> > Meena lagna> >> > What other information do you need for rectification?I canprovide> > you answers if you have any specific queries.> >> > FYI> > His first trip abroad; May 2000> >> > He migrated to USA( currently there) March 2001> >> > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996> >> > Thanks> > Suchitra> >> > @ > > , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"> > wrote:> > >> > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suchitra,> > >> > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that withbirth> > time of 12> > > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is> > kaltrakarka,> > > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9.> > >> > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional> > malefic plus> > > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his> feeling> > good> > > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot> > associate> > > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm> > > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of> > rectification. Hope> > > others will respond to your question too.> > >> > >> > >> > > Best Regards> > >> > > Ramesh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani> > >> > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct., Apt C> > >> > > Baltimore, MD, 21237 (USA)> > >> > > Tel: 410-588-6244> > >> > > Email: rgangaramani@> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > @ > > > > [@ > > ] On> > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath> > > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM> > > @ > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaksar,> > >> > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice ongem> > > stone that he is wearing> > >> > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very longtime.Before> he> > > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit> always.However,> > > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extremefatigue> > and> > > suffers from gastric problems.> > >> > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suitedhim> > > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies.> > >> > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actuallybetter> for> > > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born> > >> > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india> > >> > > His details for rectification are as follows> > >> > > First Job: 1997> > >> > > Marriage : June 1999> > >> > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006)> > >> > > Please advise> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > Suchitra> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Namaskar All, This particular person has also been wearing coral around his neck for a long time. He does not mention any positive or negative effects of the coral.However, in any case( kumbha or Meena lagna), is coral required for him? Thanks Suchitra , smart player <smartdude75 wrote: > > Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya > > hello to everybody > > I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could aggravate the situation. > > Smart Player > > > > > Ramesh F. Gangaramani <rgangaramani > > Saturday, 12 April, 2008 2:09:58 AM > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Suchitra, > He looks more like Aquarius lagna to me. Strengthening Jupiter by wearing its gemstone may not be a great idea if it is 2L and 11L. Propitiating any planet is fine. > > Best Regards > Ramesh > > > > > > [ @ . com ] On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > Friday, April 11, 2008 1:32 PM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > Namaskar Ramesh > > The person is 6 ft tall(Indian guy) and has fair complexion with a > mole on face. > > He is not stout or corpulent! He has broad shoulders , going by > Indian standards. > > Personality is strong.He is good in oratory skills. > > Thanks > Suchitra > > , " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " > <rgangaramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > > > You may want to check on physical features to firm up D1 lagna. > Here is what > > I know; > > > > Aquarius lagna: Long face, Clear complexion, Hazel eyes, Medium > stature, > > Stout, strong personality > > > > Pisces lagna: Large face, fish like eyes, soft speech, fair/pale > complexion, > > Short/ Medium stature, thick built, may be corpulent because > Pisces is a > > watery sign. > > > > Fit may not be exact but see which of the 2 comes close! > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > > Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones > > > > > > > > Namaskar Ramesh, > > > > Thanks for reply. Actually, he has 4 charts ( 2 for Kumbha Lagna , > > 2 for Meena lagna).You may look at these specific timings. > > > > Kumbha lagna charts; > > 12.03 PM ( made by his grandfather at birth who was himself an > > astrologer, but he was extremely old when constructing the chart, > so > > that chart was not deemed reliable) > > > > 12.17 pm ( rectified later by some pundit who who was sure that > > lagna should be kumbha) > > > > meena lagna > > 12.29 PM( constructed at birth by a reknowned pundit) > > > > 12.35 pm( rectified later by same pundit who constructed chart for > > Meena lagna > > > > What other information do you need for rectification? I can provide > > you answers if you have any specific queries. > > > > FYI > > His first trip abroad; May 2000 > > > > He migrated to USA ( currently there) March 2001 > > > > Had an accident to eye : Sep 1996 > > > > Thanks > > Suchitra > > > > @ <srijagannat h%40. com> > > . com, " Ramesh F. Gangaramani " > > <rgangaramani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suchitra, > > > > > > Time range is a bit wide but a quick check shows that with birth > > time of 12 > > > noon the marriage dasa (Ven-Jup-Moon) fits in well. Venus is > > kaltrakarka, > > > Jup is placed in 7H in D9 and Moon is conjoined UL in 9H in D9. > > > > > > Now for that time D1 lagna is Aquarius, Jup is a functional > > malefic plus > > > marka and Venus is yogakarka in D1. Does that explain his > feeling > > good > > > about diamond and not so good about yellow sapphire? I cannot > > associate > > > Diamond with secret enemies. Also it is difficult to make firm > > > recommendation w/o getting into detailed exercise of > > rectification. Hope > > > others will respond to your question too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh F. Ganagaramani > > > > > > 7506, Eaglewalk Ct. , Apt C > > > > > > Baltimore , MD , 21237 ( USA ) > > > > > > Tel: 410-588-6244 > > > > > > Email: <rgangaraman i@> rgangaramani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > @ <srijagannat h%40. com> > > . com > > [srijagannat h@ <srijagannat h%40. com> > > . com] On > > > Behalf Of suchitra_kamath > > > Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:20 AM > > > @ <srijagannat h%40. com> > . com > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Help with gemstones > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaksar, > > > > > > This person asked me to post this question for some advice on gem > > > stone that he is wearing > > > > > > He has been wearing Yellow sapphire from a very long time.Before > he > > > wore it, he used to lead a normal life and feel fit > always.However, > > > once he started wearing it , he has been feeling extreme fatigue > > and > > > suffers from gastric problems. > > > > > > Before yellow sapphire, he was wearing diamond, which suited him > > > well , had good health , but he had many secret enemnies. > > > > > > He wants to know, based on this, which stone is actually better > for > > > him. His chart also needs rectification. He was definitely born > > > > > > on 9th December 1969 between 12 pm and 1 pm in Ranchi india > > > > > > His details for rectification are as follows > > > > > > First Job: 1997 > > > > > > Marriage : June 1999 > > > > > > has 2 kids ( son in Jan 2003, daughter in March 2006) > > > > > > Please advise > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Suchitra > > > > > > > > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite group at http://in.promos./groups/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Smart Player, Namaste An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body. Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitations can also happen over time. If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become sterile. So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz. love, Swee > , smart player <smartdude75 > wrote: >> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya >> >> hello to everybody >> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could > aggravate the situation. >> >> Smart Player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Swee, The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results? Regards, Mike sohamsa , <swee wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Smart Player, > Namaste > > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially > treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and > irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body. > Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells > are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing > it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone > to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitations can also > happen over time. > If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your > biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become > sterile. > So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz. > > love, > > Swee > > > , smart player <smartdude75@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya > >> > >> hello to everybody > >> > >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter > > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it > > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain > > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics > > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could > > aggravate the situation. > >> > >> Smart Player > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Hi Mike, As you must have read my reply to Chee, wearing a topaz has not caused any harm to me. Though Jupiter is lord of 2nd house (maraka) but it is also lord of 11th house (gains). In fact i feel it has benefited me to a certain extent. May be respected Gurus Sanjay Rathji, Visti ji and other respected Gurus can throw some light on this. Warm Regards Smart Player mikefranc01 <michael.travasssohamsa Sent: Saturday, 19 April, 2008 6:04:39 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mikesohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mike--- In sohamsa , <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitations can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > --- In , smart player <smartdude75@>> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 JAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mikesohamsa , <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitations can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > , smart player <smartdude75@>> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones.Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart playerVenkatesh S <ksvssvksohamsa Sent: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones JAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mikesohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player,NamasteOn heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas.As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire.Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??]Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone. The sins go along in a retinue.So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin.As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm.BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields.From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king )love,Sweep/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box.On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote:Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones.Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart playerVenkatesh S <ksvssvk >sohamsa Sen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mike--- In sohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > --- In , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player>Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player,NamasteOn heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas.As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire.Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??]Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone. The sins go along in a retinue.So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin.As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm.BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields.From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king )love,Sweep/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box.On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote:Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones.Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart playerVenkatesh S <ksvssvk >sohamsa Sen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mike--- In sohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > --- In , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player>Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Om Namoh Bhagvate VasudevayaDear Swee,NamaskarThank you for your detailed explanation.Suppose the heated treated gemstone is "gifted" to someone then would the receiver incurr sin or evil. Also what would be the nature or type of evil he or she would face? (health, wealth or spiritual evil / sin) - Pls advise.warm regardssmart player----- Original Message ----Swee Chan <sweesohamsa ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 3:39:02 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Jaya JagannathaDear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player,NamasteOn heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas.As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire.Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??]Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone.. The sins go along in a retinue.So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin.As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm.BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields.From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king )love,Sweep/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box.On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote:Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones.Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart playerVenkatesh S <ksvssvk >sohamsa@ .comSen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mikesohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player>Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. 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Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Smart Player Amrish,NamasteIf the donor knowingly knows it to be heat treated, the donor incurs the sins and not the receiver. But why would anyone in their right mind want to do such a thing? Many a time, you will read stories in the puranani that with purity of heart and the desire to worship the Lord is there and even though the people wanting to do that were rather poor, offering anything including sand got locally is good enough.Which reminds me. There was a discussion once concerning dana of your old clothes. Well, I can now confirm that it does no good (from Padma Purana). In the same manner, if you have been wearing the gemstone for some time and you want to gift it to a Brahmana, we can equate this to having offered food that has not been offered first.love,SweeOn 1 May 2008, at 12:20, smart player wrote: Om Namoh Bhagvate VasudevayaDear Swee,NamaskarThank you for your detailed explanation.Suppose the heated treated gemstone is "gifted" to someone then would the receiver incurr sin or evil. Also what would be the nature or type of evil he or she would face? (health, wealth or spiritual evil / sin) - Pls advise.warm regardssmart playerSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>sohamsa ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 3:39:02 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJaya JagannathaDear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player,NamasteOn heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas.As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire.Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??]Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone.. The sins go along in a retinue.So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin.As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm.BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields.From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king )love,Sweep/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box.On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote:Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones.Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart playerVenkatesh S <ksvssvk >sohamsa@ .comSen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mike--- In sohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > --- In , smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player>Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it nowDownload prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. 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Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Om Namoh Bhagvate VasudevayaDear Swee,NamaskarThank you for your quick reply.I got the gemstone as a gift. I do not know if the sender knew what he was doing.(ie artifically treated). More importantly even i did not know about this. Wearing this stone has not caused any harm till date. Probably to analyse it further i will stop wearing it for a period of 2 to 3 weeks and see if there is any positive difference.warms regardssmart playerSwee Chan <swee Sent: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 5:39:34 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Jaya JagannathaDear Smart Player Amrish,NamasteIf the donor knowingly knows it to be heat treated, the donor incurs the sins and not the receiver. But why would anyone in their right mind want to do such a thing? Many a time, you will read stories in the puranani that with purity of heart and the desire to worship the Lord is there and even though the people wanting to do that were rather poor, offering anything including sand got locally is good enough.Which reminds me. There was a discussion once concerning dana of your old clothes. Well, I can now confirm that it does no good (from Padma Purana). In the same manner, if you have been wearing the gemstone for some time and you want to gift it to a Brahmana, we can equate this to having offered food that has not been offered first.love,SweeOn 1 May 2008, at 12:20, smart player wrote: Om Namoh Bhagvate VasudevayaDear Swee,NamaskarThank you for your detailed explanation.Suppose the heated treated gemstone is "gifted" to someone then would the receiver incurr sin or evil. Also what would be the nature or type of evil he or she would face? (health, wealth or spiritual evil / sin) - Pls advise.warm regardssmart playerSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm>sohamsa@ .com; Cc: @gro ups.comThursday, 1 May, 2008 3:39:02 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJaya JagannathaDear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player,NamasteOn heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas.As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire.Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??]Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone.. The sins go along in a retinue.So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin.As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm.BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields.From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king )love,Sweep/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box.On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote:Dear Chee,I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones.Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??warm regardssmart playerVenkatesh S <ksvssvk >sohamsa@ .comSen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstonesJAI SRIRAMDear Swee,How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated?Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How?Thanks,VenkateshSwee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote:Jaya JagannathaDear Mike,NamasteMuch as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam.As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale.NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out.(much like euthanasia, isn't it?)love,SweeOn 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote:Swee,The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results?Regards,Mikesohamsa@ .com, <swee wrote:>> > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Smart Player,> Namaste> > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially> treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and> irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body.> Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells> are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing> it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone> to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also> happen over time.> If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your> biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become> sterile.> So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz.> > love,> > Swee> > > @ . com, smart player <smartdude75@ >> > wrote:> >>> >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya> >>> >> hello to everybody> >>> >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter> > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it> > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain> > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics> > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could> > aggravate the situation.> >>> >> Smart Player>Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it nowDownload prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 kleem namah narasimhaaya Dear Sweeji, Namaskar How you would comment Garuda Purana sloka (68/42) that diamonds are bad for women? Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Swee Chan napisał(a): Jaya Jagannatha Dear Smart Player Amrish, Namaste If the donor knowingly knows it to be heat treated, the donor incurs the sins and not the receiver. But why would anyone in their right mind want to do such a thing? Many a time, you will read stories in the puranani that with purity of heart and the desire to worship the Lord is there and even though the people wanting to do that were rather poor, offering anything including sand got locally is good enough. Which reminds me. There was a discussion once concerning dana of your old clothes. Well, I can now confirm that it does no good (from Padma Purana). In the same manner, if you have been wearing the gemstone for some time and you want to gift it to a Brahmana, we can equate this to having offered food that has not been offered first. love, Swee On 1 May 2008, at 12:20, smart player wrote: Om Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevaya Dear Swee, Namaskar Thank you for your detailed explanation. Suppose the heated treated gemstone is "gifted" to someone then would the receiver incurr sin or evil. Also what would be the nature or type of evil he or she would face? (health, wealth or spiritual evil / sin) - Pls advise. warm regards smart player Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> sohamsa@ .com; Cc: @gro ups.com Thursday, 1 May, 2008 3:39:02 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones Jaya Jagannatha Dear S.Venkatesh and Smart Player, Namaste On heat treated gemstones, it is rather difficult for the lay person. But the erudite can see at an instance the special shine in the gemstone. Heat treated stones (classed as enhanced and not natural) generally are done in situ at many mines nowadays, unless the gemstone dealer has a special arrangement with the miner. This is because heat treatment takes away the greyish or darkish hue to the gem. One thing to bear in mind is that only gemmy ones can be treated for gases etc., present in them expand and can shatter the gem. The (Pancha Maharatna) gemstones I have seen in India so far, are far from the quality that is being described in the puranas. As for different weights, they mostly followed the ancient method with the gu~nja berry as in the red coral and that in the weight of rice where diamond is concerned. But in the case of a yellow sapphire, the logic follows according to Jupiter's tendency to put on weight due to his love for sweet things, as in ghee and honey. Hence, a person who tends to put on weight easily should wear a smaller yellow sapphire. Smart Player: As for one making money whilst giving advice, doesn't a doctor, a consultant, the farmer charge you for their consultations as in the doctor and you still have to pay for tests and drugs, the consultant for his time, reports and expertise in the subject you are consulting on and the farmer for his produce? [ how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ??] Yes in the case of executing the command in heating the gemstone.. The sins go along in a retinue. So, if you as a consultant astrologer knowingly know that the gemstone whom you are sending to sells heat treated gemstones and according to the statement made, even the astrologer should bear and face the same evils/sin. As for wearing fakes versus irradiated gemstones, fakes are mostly glass and harmless. But an irradiated gemstone does harm to your own body as well as those around you. It works much like spending too much time on the computer, watching tv and all sorts of modern hi-tech machinery that blow out all the electromagnetic fields that subject our bodies to more harm. BUT try and place a good sized piece of tourmaline next to your computer and see if your computer does not go hay-wire! Tourmaline has a natural ability to dispel radiation and the negative fields charged out from these electromagnetic fields. From our understanding in classics, the gemstone belongs to the Moon. I understand this to be the feminine aspect and that Mother nature sustains and supports her own child no matter what. Since trees (and herbs) also belong to the Moon, it has been said (according to skanda purana) that all Maitres are present in them during Caturmasa. So you do have a choice: "perform the hug a tree ritual" (on a special day marked out this month isn't it? and is unlike the tree planting when Saturn ambles within close quarters of your natal Moon) or have the gemstone grace your body, naturally apt for a king ) love, Swee p/s S. V., it seems did not deliver your message into my mail box. On 1 May 2008, at 10:01, smart player wrote: Dear Chee, I have seen people wearing artificial gemstones but not heard of anybody getting harmed by wearing these stones. Also people who sell these stones are making money out of it and same time helping people to solve their problems so how can we say that ""sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out"" ?? warm regards smart player Venkatesh S <ksvssvk > sohamsa@ .com Sen t: Thursday, 1 May, 2008 12:00:07 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Help with gemstones JAI SRIRAM Dear Swee, How should we know the gem stone is Natural or heat treated? Carat and size of the gem stne should differ as per chart? How? Thanks, Venkatesh Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Mike, Namaste Much as you may hope or wish that a maraka does not kill but contrary to that, it is said that during its reign in Pratyantar Dasa of maraka especially if it is chidra dasa, it kills the native as given in Lord Shiva's instructions to Parvati in Jyotisharnava Navanitam. As for Topaz, Topaz is not crystal clear, has a dark shadow around the gem. Natural Blue Topaz extracted from the ground is milky/cloudy while natural white Topaz (with the darkish hue) heat treated and then irradiated in a chamber for at least two years before it goes into the market for sale. NATURAL gems are to be worn at all times so says the sastras for those who command its altered state, sins and evils go to the person who requests the treatment and the person who carries it out. (much like euthanasia, isn't it?) love, Swee On 19 Apr 2008, at 02:34, mikefranc01 wrote: Swee, The stone (yellow sapphire, Topaz, citrine) for Ju is beneficial for all Lagnas. Though Ju is a maraka for Aq lagna it will not harm the way you wrote. Did you mean to say that if the stone is artificially altered it would give bad results? Regards, Mike sohamsa@ ..com, <swee wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Smart Player, > Namaste > > An irradiated stone like the Topaz whose colour has been artificially > treated by being put into the chamber for at least two years and > irradiated with colour will certainly do the follow harm to your body. > Hair loss, a reconditioning of your blood cells where lymphocytes cells > are reduced making you more susceptible to infections. If you are wearing > it round your ring finger, it is more than likely your kidneys are prone > to infections. Added to this, low blood pressure/palpitatio ns can also > happen over time. > If you are wearing a huge piece of this potential time bomb, then your > biological (reproductive) clock takes a knock, causing one to become > sterile. > So be a Smart Player and take off your Topaz. > > love, > > Swee > > > @ . com, smart player <smartdude75@ > > > wrote: > >> > >> Om Namoh Bhagwate Vasudevaya > >> > >> hello to everybody > >> > >> I myself have an Aquarius Lagna and i have been wearing a Jupiter > > stone (Topaz not Yellow Saphhire) since last almost 2 years and it > > has not caused me any harm. Infact it has helped to a certain > > extent. Of course Jupiter should not be afflicted badly by malefics > > in anybodys chart or placed in a bad house otherwise it could > > aggravate the situation. > >> > >> Smart Player > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Download prohibited? No problem. 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