Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Namaste, > Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " -here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However,the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as marriage. The following are my general anumaanam / logic: Guru is " Dhanakaarak " and subha drishti caterer;11th house is superior element of " kaama Trikona " .Guru aspects 3rd house(1st kaama Trikona)improves pau~ru~sham and dhana yogam;aspect on the 5th house increases commonsense,interests in music;aspect on the 7th house progresses a greater option for a good hearted lovely spouse;placement of Guru in the 11th house the superlative element of " kaama-Trikona " may pave way for dhana yoga from Uncle(father's elder brother) and Governments aids. Better and larger opinions are invited in addition to Mr.Kishore Patnaik's and mine above.. kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: Dear all, It is said " Jupiter expands, Rahu accerlates, Mars excites and Saturn depresses " Thinking of the same, I feel there is much truth involved in this statement. To start with, let us look at these planets in the 11th house: Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " - here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However, the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as marriage. Rahu in 11th gives an early job Mars in 11th may give certain abdominal problems such as ulcers, gas etc. If he is YK especially for Leo, he is likely to encourage the person to earn lots of income through not very straight forward methods, if not illegal. On the other hand, a weak Mars in 11th for Cancer, during his dasa and antardasas, a wonderful boost to the career of, wait a minute, the elder brother. At the same time, the income for the native will be depleted, since Mars is the vyaya (12th lord) for the 11th house!!! Saturn in 11th, if he is not YK, can ensure a very late career and will depress the income. If he is YK, his ill effects gets camouflaged for two reasons- that he is YK on one hand and that , he is in the houses of bigger planets than he ie Jupiter or Sun. I hope the group will find these comments useful and I invite the members to discuss the effects in 11th as well as in other houses, regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Dear all, It is said " Jupiter expands, Rahu accerlates, Mars excites and Saturn depresses " Thinking of the same, I feel there is much truth involved in this statement. To start with, let us look at these planets in the 11th house: Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " - here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However, the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as marriage. Rahu in 11th gives an early jobMars in 11th may give certain abdominal problems such as ulcers, gas etc. If he is YK especially for Leo, he is likely to encourage the person to earn lots of income through not very straight forward methods, if not illegal. On the other hand, a weak Mars in 11th for Cancer, during his dasa and antardasas, a wonderful boost to the career of, wait a minute, the elder brother. At the same time, the income for the native will be depleted, since Mars is the vyaya (12th lord) for the 11th house!!! Saturn in 11th, if he is not YK, can ensure a very late career and will depress the income. If he is YK, his ill effects gets camouflaged for two reasons- that he is YK on one hand and that , he is in the houses of bigger planets than he ie Jupiter or Sun. I hope the group will find these comments useful and I invite the members to discuss the effects in 11th as well as in other houses,regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Karunakaramji and kishoreji, Good writings. Let me volunteer as an example for further study DOB Oct 9 1970, Time: 00.10 (midnight 12.10 of oct8)neyveli, tamlinadu, India 1. From lagna Saturn in 11th. Retro, debilitated- so far the career has not picked up- saw a rise and fall due to bad mahadasa. Income not good. 11th is also supposed to be the best place for saturn. I have to see career during my jupiter mahadasa. Jupiter and saturn samasaptaka and also in parivaratan yoga in D9 2. From moon- Jupiter in 11th with the lord Venus. Yes I am a lover of art and music. I performed on stage during my moon dasa. The dasa was great, all the 10 years (dispositor Jupiter in 11th from moon and fifth from lagna with the fifth lord venus) won several prizes, the best for me was the scholarship and award from Kanchi Kamakoti for proficiency and standing school first in the board exams in " sanskrit " . My husband is good at heart and handsome. Regarding romances, since it is not part of my brought up it did not materialize but I should accept there were atleast four men(different community)- who were flirting me during my Rahu-Jupiter (also in parivartana in D-9) nothing ended in marriage because I went for an arranged marriage!! I also heard that Jupiter in 11th gives many good friends (I have not experienced this at all) and if alone without any aspects denies elder siblings to the person. Regards bhagavathi vedic astrology , KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham wrote: > > Namaste, > > Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " -here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However,the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as marriage. > > The following are my general anumaanam / logic: > Guru is " Dhanakaarak " and subha drishti caterer;11th house is superior element of " kaama Trikona " .Guru aspects 3rd house(1st kaama Trikona)improves pau~ru~sham and dhana yogam;aspect on the 5th house increases commonsense,interests in music;aspect on the 7th house progresses a greater option for a good hearted lovely spouse;placement of Guru in the 11th house the superlative element of " kaama-Trikona " may pave way for dhana yoga from Uncle(father's elder brother) and Governments aids. > > Better and larger opinions are invited in addition to Mr.Kishore Patnaik's and mine above.. > > kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: Dear all, > > It is said " Jupiter expands, Rahu accerlates, Mars excites and Saturn > depresses " Thinking of the same, I feel there is much truth involved in > this statement. > > To start with, let us look at these planets in the 11th house: > > Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit > positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " - > here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However, > the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as > marriage. > > Rahu in 11th gives an early job > > Mars in 11th may give certain abdominal problems such as ulcers, gas etc. > If he is YK especially for Leo, he is likely to encourage the person to earn > lots of income through not very straight forward methods, if not illegal. On > the other hand, a weak Mars in 11th for Cancer, during his dasa and > antardasas, a wonderful boost to the career of, wait a minute, the elder > brother. At the same time, the income for the native will be depleted, > since Mars is the vyaya (12th lord) for the 11th house!!! > > Saturn in 11th, if he is not YK, can ensure a very late career and will > depress the income. If he is YK, his ill effects gets camouflaged for two > reasons- that he is YK on one hand and that , he is in the houses of bigger > planets than he ie Jupiter or Sun. > > I hope the group will find these comments useful and I invite the members > to discuss the effects in 11th as well as in other houses, > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Dear Kishore, You have begun a good thread and let me first congratulate you for bringing this topic under discussion. However, might it not be more interesting to look at what the planets do in the 11th itself? I find that in case of some grahas you are analyzing what effects are of their aspects on the5th and in case of other occupation of planets of the 11th itself. This might not lead to better understanding of the planets and terms used for them that you describe. When we look at Jupiter having Venus and Moon in 7th from it causing romance, if it does, this could be a practical application of Bhrigu Nandi nadi principle and may not necessarily be restricted to Jupiter in the 5th only. Again if Saturn depresses, that should happen for most of the lagnas and not only a few. Again why should the Mars given acceleration to career of elder brother when in 11th as the 11th itself indicates the elder brother and his career would be indicated by the 8th where Mars does not aspect. All these things must be perhaps properly arranged so that we learn much about the terms like expansion, acceleration etc applied to planets. Take care, Chandrashekhar. kishore patnaik wrote: Dear all, It is said " Jupiter expands, Rahu accerlates, Mars excites and Saturn depresses" Thinking of the same, I feel there is much truth involved in this statement. To start with, let us look at these planets in the 11th house: Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your "community"- here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However, the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as marriage. Rahu in 11th gives an early job Mars in 11th may give certain abdominal problems such as ulcers, gas etc. If he is YK especially for Leo, he is likely to encourage the person to earn lots of income through not very straight forward methods, if not illegal. On the other hand, a weak Mars in 11th for Cancer, during his dasa and antardasas, a wonderful boost to the career of, wait a minute, the elder brother. At the same time, the income for the native will be depleted, since Mars is the vyaya (12th lord) for the 11th house!!! Saturn in 11th, if he is not YK, can ensure a very late career and will depress the income. If he is YK, his ill effects gets camouflaged for two reasons- that he is YK on one hand and that , he is in the houses of bigger planets than he ie Jupiter or Sun. I hope the group will find these comments useful and I invite the members to discuss the effects in 11th as well as in other houses, regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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