Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Pranav, Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha (exaltation/debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the nature of rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict of the Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th MKS is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study and do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for him to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. 7th is relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. Notice the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's exaltation debilitates Shukra. Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see Budha's relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his relationship with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to improve the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, then pray to Mother Lakshmi.Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is instead death-like suffering.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,Best wishes,Sourav=================================================================================================sohamsa , Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 wrote:>> !Om Gurave Namah!> > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar!> > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury.> > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaaya" can help get this Mercury out of MKS.> > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > Warm regards,> Pranav> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Pranav Gupta napisał(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury. Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. Warm regards, Pranav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the prompt response! I forgot to mention that in this chart Venus and Moon both are in MKS as well. Can we still prescribe a diamond? Since Sun is strong in Pisces in 7th house , Ravi mantra might do the trick. Let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Pranav (PS: I have attached the horoscope for your reference) Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Pranav,Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comPranav Gupta napisa³(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury. Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. Warm regards, Pranav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Shukra is also in Marakakarakasthana. Diamond can do the trick but generally planets in sixth are not auspicious for spirituality. Omkara Jyotirlinga is of utmost importance for this person. Next is the Mitra, Varuna and Ravi mantras. So thats the best: Om Hram Hrim Hroum Ghrini Ravi Varuna Mitraya bhyo Namah. Om Namah Shivaya Omkaraya Haum Joom Sah (as this can also brings health problems). This should help. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Pranav Gupta napisał(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the prompt response! I forgot to mention that in this chart Venus and Moon both are in MKS as well. Can we still prescribe a diamond? Since Sun is strong in Pisces in 7th house , Ravi mantra might do the trick. Let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Pranav (PS: I have attached the horoscope for your reference) Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Pranav Gupta napisa³(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury. Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. Warm regards, Pranav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rafal and Pranavi think the mantra will go like this. its given to me by Vistiji himself, as i myself have venus and mercury and mars in MKS. Om Hram Hreem Ghrini Ravi-Varunabhyam Namah IIAlso gemstones of mercury and saturn could help the MKS planets to come out of death like suffering.Why did you chose the omkara jyotirlinga for health issues ? I was also having some health problems, and will like inputs from you members. thanks nirvanikaJai Bhole Shankara : Jaya Jagannath On 8/14/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Shukra is also in Marakakarakasthana. Diamond can do the trick but generally planets in sixth are not auspicious for spirituality. Omkara Jyotirlinga is of utmost importance for this person. Next is the Mitra, Varuna and Ravi mantras. So thats the best: Om Hram Hrim Hroum Ghrini Ravi Varuna Mitraya bhyo Namah. Om Namah Shivaya Omkaraya Haum Joom Sah (as this can also brings health problems). This should help. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Pranav Gupta napisaù(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the prompt response! I forgot to mention that in this chart Venus and Moon both are in MKS as well. Can we still prescribe a diamond? Since Sun is strong in Pisces in 7th house , Ravi mantra might do the trick. Let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Pranav (PS: I have attached the horoscope for your reference) Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Pranav Gupta napisa³(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury. Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva " Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaay a " can help get this Mercury out of MKS. I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. Warm regards, Pranav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Sourav ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the response. It is an interesting approach and a new learning for me. I never though about it from the perspective ot the karakatvas. Further, my understanding has always been that if the planet is in MKS it will give death like suffering and it the MKS planet is debilitated it can give death in the ND of the signs it rules. Please share your comments/opinion about my understanding. Warm regards, Pranav Sourav <souravc108 wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Pranav, Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha (exaltation/debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the nature of rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict of the Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th MKS is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study and do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for him to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. 7th is relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. Notice the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's exaltation debilitates Shukra. Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see Budha's relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his relationship with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to improve the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, then pray to Mother Lakshmi.Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is instead death-like suffering.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,Best wishes,Sourav=================================================================================================sohamsa , Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 wrote:>> !Om Gurave Namah!> > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar!> > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury.> > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaaya" can help get this Mercury out of MKS.> > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > Warm regards,> Pranav> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Dear Friends, Mercury,s Maran karka house is 4th ,and also if alone in 7H. Debilitated Mercury in angular houses cancels his own debility. When planets placed in Maran karka houses and fall in debility,inimical sign or being aspected with or by malefics or lords of Trika houses ,they obtain Marka potential. A Marka planet may confer even death depending upon affliction. Otherwise death does not mean end of life's journey , but points to any of the following alternatives: 1,Shame 2. Disease 3. SORROW 4. Fear and Grief 5. Miseries 6. Humiliation 7. Calumny and finally even 8. Death. Regards,G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Dear Sourav ji, You are writing back on forums after very long time. and its pleasure to read your postings. What houses can be said best for mercury to explore ? if 4/7 houses are boudage in some kind of form and which makes budh feeling uncomfortable in them. 9th again is dharma, and 8th house is research moreover. Please suggest further. Warm Regards, Tarun sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Pranav, > Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha > (exaltation/debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the nature of > rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict of the > Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the > house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th MKS > is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study and > do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for him > to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. 7th is > relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. Notice > the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's > exaltation debilitates Shukra. > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see Budha's > relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his relationship > with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the > situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course > worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to improve > the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to > Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, then > pray to Mother Lakshmi. > > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is instead > death-like suffering. > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu, > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > ====================================================================== ==\ > ========================= > > > > > sohamsa , Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote: > > > > !Om Gurave Namah! > > > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! > > > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the > 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to > my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign > can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into > state of denial. > > > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among > learneds of the MKS of mercury. > > > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house > or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva " Om NamasSivaaya > NamoMallikaarjunaaya " can help get this Mercury out of MKS. > > > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > > > Warm regards, > > Pranav > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Pranav, namaskar. Please depend on Guru's teachings about this death issue and don't take my word for it. My thinking is that Narayana Dasa shows ground reality and our status in it. Also, the graha which has MKS from Lagna reference may not have the same from the Dasa rasi reference. I would prefer to deduce longivity is other more established ways.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.Best wishes,Sourav=========================================================================================================sohamsa , Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 wrote:>> !Om Gurave Namah!> > Dear Sourav ji, Namaskar!> > Thank you for the response. It is an interesting approach and a new learning for me. I never though about it from the perspective ot the karakatvas. > > Further, my understanding has always been that if the planet is in MKS it will give death like suffering and it the MKS planet is debilitated it can give death in the ND of the signs it rules. Please share your comments/opinion about my understanding.> > Warm regards,> Pranav> > Sourav souravc108 wrote:> || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > Dear Pranav,> Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha (exaltation/debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the nature of rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict of the Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th MKS is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study and do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for him to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. 7th is relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. Notice the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's exaltation debilitates Shukra. > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see Budha's relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his relationship with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to improve the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, then pray to Mother Lakshmi.> > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is instead death-like suffering.> > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,> > Best wishes,> > Sourav> =================================================================================================> > > > > sohamsa , Pranav Gupta sushmagupta51@ wrote:> >> > !Om Gurave Namah!> > > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar!> > > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. > > > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury.> > > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaaya" can help get this Mercury out of MKS.> > > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > > > Warm regards,> > Pranav> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Nirvanika Thats also fine, but its without Mitra, while mine has the mitra in mantra, therefore its even more better. Jupiter is cursed in dusthana..therefore Shiva form as lord and bhava karaka failed to help. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl healing spaces napisaù(a): Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rafal and Pranav i think the mantra will go like this. its given to me by Vistiji himself, as i myself have venus and mercury and mars in MKS. Om Hram Hreem Ghrini Ravi-Varunabhyam Namah II Also gemstones of mercury and saturn could help the MKS planets to come out of death like suffering. Why did you chose the omkara jyotirlinga for health issues ? I was also having some health problems, and will like inputs from you members. thanks nirvanika Jai Bhole Shankara : Jaya Jagannath On 8/14/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl > wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Shukra is also in Marakakarakasthana. Diamond can do the trick but generally planets in sixth are not auspicious for spirituality. Omkara Jyotirlinga is of utmost importance for this person. Next is the Mitra, Varuna and Ravi mantras. So thats the best: Om Hram Hrim Hroum Ghrini Ravi Varuna Mitraya bhyo Namah. Om Namah Shivaya Omkaraya Haum Joom Sah (as this can also brings health problems). This should help. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Pranav Gupta napisaù(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the prompt response! I forgot to mention that in this chart Venus and Moon both are in MKS as well. Can we still prescribe a diamond? Since Sun is strong in Pisces in 7th house , Ravi mantra might do the trick. Let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Pranav (PS: I have attached the horoscope for your reference) Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Pranav Gupta napisa³(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury. Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. Warm regards, Pranav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Tarun, namaskar. Yes, indeed. Thank you for your welcome. Budha is karaka of effort, management, speech etc. and owns the natural upachayas. Hence it is best in these upachaya houses. Read Saravali for understanding. If Budha is lagnesh in the 8th, then the person can have a lot of information i.e. will know something for everything and can talk about any topic.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.Best wishes,Sourav===================================================================================sohamsa , "Tarun" <tarun.virgo wrote:>> Dear Sourav ji,> > You are writing back on forums after very long time.> and its pleasure to read your postings.> > What houses can be said best for mercury to explore ? > if 4/7 houses are boudage in some kind of form and which makes budh > feeling uncomfortable in them.> > 9th again is dharma, and 8th house is research moreover.> > Please suggest further.> > Warm Regards,> > Tarun> > sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Pranav,> > Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha> > (exaltation/debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the > nature of> > rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict > of the> > Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the> > house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th > MKS> > is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study > and> > do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for > him> > to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. > 7th is> > relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. > Notice> > the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's> > exaltation debilitates Shukra.> > > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see > Budha's> > relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his > relationship> > with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the> > situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering.> > > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course> > worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to > improve> > the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to> > Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, > then> > pray to Mother Lakshmi.> > > > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is > instead> > death-like suffering.> > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > ======================================================================> ==\> > =========================> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:> > >> > > !Om Gurave Namah!> > >> > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar!> > >> > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury > in the> > 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now > according to> > my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling > sign> > can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into> > state of denial.> > >> > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among> > learneds of the MKS of mercury.> > >> > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th > house> > or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person?> > >> > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya> > NamoMallikaarjunaaya" can help get this Mercury out of MKS.> > >> > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds.> > >> > > Warm regards,> > > Pranav> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you taking time to give the remedy and suggesting the mantra. I really appreciate it. Warm regards, PranavRafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear NirvanikaThats also fine, but its without Mitra, while mine has the mitra in mantra, therefore its even more better.Jupiter is cursed in dusthana..therefore Shiva form as lord and bhava karaka failed to help.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.plhealing spaces napisaù(a): Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rafal and Pranavi think the mantra will go like this. its given to me by Vistiji himself, as i myself have venus and mercury and mars in MKS. Om Hram Hreem Ghrini Ravi-Varunabhyam Namah IIAlso gemstones of mercury and saturn could help the MKS planets to come out of death like suffering.Why did you chose the omkara jyotirlinga for health issues ? I was also having some health problems, and will like inputs from you members. thanks nirvanikaJai Bhole Shankara : Jaya Jagannath On 8/14/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl > wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav,Shukra is also in Marakakarakasthana. Diamond can do the trick but generally planets in sixth are not auspicious for spirituality. Omkara Jyotirlinga is of utmost importance for this person. Next is the Mitra, Varuna and Ravi mantras. So thats the best:Om Hram Hrim Hroum Ghrini Ravi Varuna Mitraya bhyo Namah.Om Namah Shivaya Omkaraya Haum Joom Sah (as this can also brings health problems).This should help.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Pranav Gupta napisaù(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the prompt response! I forgot to mention that in this chart Venus and Moon both are in MKS as well. Can we still prescribe a diamond? Since Sun is strong in Pisces in 7th house , Ravi mantra might do the trick. Let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Pranav (PS: I have attached the horoscope for your reference) Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav,Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com Pranav Gupta napisa³(a): !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury in the 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now according to my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling sign can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into state of denial. And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among learneds of the MKS of mercury. Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th house or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. Warm regards, Pranav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Sorry to butt in the middle of the discussion on MKS Rafalji & Pranavji. Please accept my humble apologies My own chart has Venus, Mercury & Jupiter [All 3 Natural Benefics!] in Rasi Chart in Marana Karaka Sthana. And Moon in MKS in Navamsa chart. My birth details: DOB: 27th June 1974 TOB: 8:10pm POB: Mangalore, India Could I follow the Varuna Mantra? Warm Regards, Prakash ==== Posted by: " Pranav Gupta " sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Mercury%20MKS%207th%20or%20th\ e%204th%20house%3F> sushmagupta51 <http://profiles./sushmagupta51> Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:03 am (PST) !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar! Thank you for the prompt response! I forgot to mention that in this chart Venus and Moon both are in MKS as well. Can we still prescribe a diamond? Since Sun is strong in Pisces in 7th house , Ravi mantra might do the trick. Let me know your thoughts. Warm Regards, Pranav (PS: I have attached the horoscope for your reference) Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: hraum namah adityaya Dear Pranav, Buddha has MKS both in forth and seventh. Choose diamond or circonia / Ravi Mantra. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal <rafal%40rohinaa.com> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Goelji and fellow Jyoitishis, Thanks for ur Notes Can u give me ur views on what will the condition for the mercury in my chart, as it is under these conditions. 1. Debilitition-Mercury is in debility in 7th house, cancelling by being in kendra. Does this cancellation suffice fully or is it only in percentage? 2. Marana karana Sthana -Mercury is in MKS in 7th , but it is not alone , and is with Mars it enemy and lord of 3rd and 8th. So now is it MKS ? is mars MKS and what are is the combined effect of having both MKS. Not forgetting i have VENUS the karak planet of 7th also in MKS. 3. Conjunction and Dasha -And since it is conjunct does it give results of Mars, asking this as i am running vimshottri dasha of mercury. i know dwisaptati also can be applied to my chart . 4. Badhaksthna . I have mercury and mars also in badhaksthana, and it is said that these planets acquire more role of badhakesh than the badhakesh Jupiter itself. Also any particular effects u see for such badhaksthana placements. Thanking you in advance. Nirvanika Jai Bhole Shankar ; ; Jaya Jagannath On 8/14/07, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Friends, Mercury,s Maran karka house is 4th ,and also if alone in 7H. Debilitated Mercury in angular houses cancels his own debility. When planets placed in Maran karka houses and fall in debility,inimical sign or being aspected with or by malefics or lords of Trika houses ,they obtain Marka potential. A Marka planet may confer even death depending upon affliction. Otherwise death does not mean end of life's journey , but points to any of the following alternatives: 1,Shame 2. Disease 3. SORROW 4. Fear and Grief 5. Miseries 6. Humiliation 7. Calumny and finally even 8. Death. Regards,G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 || Vande Mataram || Dear Sourav ji, First...a Very very Happy Independence Day. Many Thanks for your mail. Yes this point is very valuable to keep in mind that upachya lord can be happy in upachya only. I will defintely explore saravali again. and mercury is a planet which is artifical intelligence so it can dig anything. Please donot break your this session of forum writings. Warm Regards, Tarun sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Tarun, > namaskar. Yes, indeed. Thank you for your > welcome. Budha is karaka of effort, management, speech etc. and owns the > natural upachayas. Hence it is best in these upachaya houses. Read > Saravali for understanding. If Budha is lagnesh in the 8th, then the > person can have a lot of information i.e. will know something for > everything and can talk about any topic. > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ====================================================================== ==\ > =========== > sohamsa , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav ji, > > > > You are writing back on forums after very long time. > > and its pleasure to read your postings. > > > > What houses can be said best for mercury to explore ? > > if 4/7 houses are boudage in some kind of form and which makes budh > > feeling uncomfortable in them. > > > > 9th again is dharma, and 8th house is research moreover. > > > > Please suggest further. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > sohamsa , " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Pranav, > > > Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha > > > (exaltation/debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the > > nature of > > > rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict > > of the > > > Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the > > > house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th > > MKS > > > is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study > > and > > > do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for > > him > > > to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. > > 7th is > > > relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. > > Notice > > > the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's > > > exaltation debilitates Shukra. > > > > > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see > > Budha's > > > relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his > > relationship > > > with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the > > > situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. > > > > > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course > > > worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to > > improve > > > the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to > > > Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, > > then > > > pray to Mother Lakshmi. > > > > > > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is > > instead > > > death-like suffering. > > > > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu, > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > ====================================================================== > > ==\ > > > ========================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote: > > > > > > > > !Om Gurave Namah! > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! > > > > > > > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury > > in the > > > 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now > > according to > > > my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling > > sign > > > can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into > > > state of denial. > > > > > > > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among > > > learneds of the MKS of mercury. > > > > > > > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th > > house > > > or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > > > > > > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva " Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamoMallikaarjunaaya " can help get this Mercury out of MKS. > > > > > > > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Pranav > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sourav, Some corrections: Sani is for effort, Venus is for managment. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Tarun napisał(a): || Vande Mataram || Dear Sourav ji, First...a Very very Happy Independence Day. Many Thanks for your mail. Yes this point is very valuable to keep in mind that upachya lord can be happy in upachya only. I will defintely explore saravali again. and mercury is a planet which is artifical intelligence so it can dig anything. Please donot break your this session of forum writings. Warm Regards, Tarun sohamsa@ ..com, "Sourav" <souravc108@ ...> wrote: > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Tarun, > namaskar. Yes, indeed. Thank you for your > welcome. Budha is karaka of effort, management, speech etc. and owns the > natural upachayas. Hence it is best in these upachaya houses. Read > Saravali for understanding. If Budha is lagnesh in the 8th, then the > person can have a lot of information i.e. will know something for > everything and can talk about any topic. > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==== ==\ > =========== > sohamsa@ ..com, "Tarun" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Sourav ji, > > > > You are writing back on forums after very long time. > > and its pleasure to read your postings. > > > > What houses can be said best for mercury to explore ? > > if 4/7 houses are boudage in some kind of form and which makes budh > > feeling uncomfortable in them. > > > > 9th again is dharma, and 8th house is research moreover. > > > > Please suggest further. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > sohamsa@ ..com, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Pranav, > > > Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha > > > (exaltation/ debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the > > nature of > > > rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the conflict > > of the > > > Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of the > > > house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . 4th > > MKS > > > is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and study > > and > > > do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting for > > him > > > to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. > > 7th is > > > relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and boundaries. > > Notice > > > the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. Budha's > > > exaltation debilitates Shukra. > > > > > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see > > Budha's > > > relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his > > relationship > > > with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated the > > > situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. > > > > > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of course > > > worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to > > improve > > > the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to > > > Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th MKS, > > then > > > pray to Mother Lakshmi. > > > > > > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is > > instead > > > death-like suffering. > > > > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu, > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ==== > > ==\ > > > ============ ========= ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com, Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > !Om Gurave Namah! > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! > > > > > > > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated Mercury > > in the > > > 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now > > according to > > > my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling > > sign > > > can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went into > > > state of denial. > > > > > > > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion among > > > learneds of the MKS of mercury. > > > > > > > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- 4th > > house > > > or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > > > > > > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om NamasSivaaya > > > NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. > > > > > > > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Pranav > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 || Hare Raama Krsna ||Dear Rafal-ji, namaskar. There are various levels of management just like there are various degrees in Business studies. Budha develops skill, invents, finds solution to road blocks. He does product management. This is because he has learned his skills from Guru (owner of natural 3rd - guru upadesa) and has been instructed by Surya - administration. On the other hand, Shukra controls jalatatva and indicates people skills and people management. Sani likes prodding effort and hence needs a leader, Mars. This is why there are so many different kaarakas of the 10th house.Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.Best wishes,Sourav==============================================================================================sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Sourav,> > Some corrections: Sani is for effort, Venus is for managment.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > Tarun napisa?(a):> >> > || Vande Mataram ||> >> > Dear Sourav ji,> >> > First...a Very very Happy Independence Day.> >> > Many Thanks for your mail.> >> > Yes this point is very valuable to keep in mind that upachya lord can> > be happy in upachya only.> >> > I will defintely explore saravali again. and mercury is a planet> > which is artifical intelligence so it can dig anything.> >> > Please donot break your this session of forum writings.> >> > Warm Regards,> >> > Tarun> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > "Sourav" <souravc108@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > >> > > Dear Tarun,> > > namaskar. Yes, indeed. Thank you for your> > > welcome. Budha is karaka of effort, management, speech etc. and> > owns the> > > natural upachayas. Hence it is best in these upachaya houses. Read> > > Saravali for understanding. If Budha is lagnesh in the 8th, then the> > > person can have a lot of information i.e. will know something for> > > everything and can talk about any topic.> > >> > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > >> > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ====> > ==\> > > ===========> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > "Tarun" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sourav ji,> > > >> > > > You are writing back on forums after very long time.> > > > and its pleasure to read your postings.> > > >> > > > What houses can be said best for mercury to explore ?> > > > if 4/7 houses are boudage in some kind of form and which makes> > budh> > > > feeling uncomfortable in them.> > > >> > > > 9th again is dharma, and 8th house is research moreover.> > > >> > > > Please suggest further.> > > >> > > > Warm Regards,> > > >> > > > Tarun> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa%40>, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Pranav,> > > > > Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha> > > > > (exaltation/ debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the> > > > nature of> > > > > rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the> > conflict> > > > of the> > > > > Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of> > the> > > > > house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. .> > 4th> > > > MKS> > > > > is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and> > study> > > > and> > > > > do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting> > for> > > > him> > > > > to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull.> > > > 7th is> > > > > relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and> > boundaries.> > > > Notice> > > > > the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra.> > Budha's> > > > > exaltation debilitates Shukra.> > > > >> > > > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see> > > > Budha's> > > > > relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his> > > > relationship> > > > > with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated> > the> > > > > situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering.> > > > >> > > > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of> > course> > > > > worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to> > > > improve> > > > > the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to> > > > > Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th> > MKS,> > > > then> > > > > pray to Mother Lakshmi.> > > > >> > > > > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is> > > > instead> > > > > death-like suffering.> > > > >> > > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu,> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > >> > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ====> > > > ==\> > > > > ============ ========= ====> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa%40>, Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@ >> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > !Om Gurave Namah!> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar!> > > > > >> > > > > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated> > Mercury> > > > in the> > > > > 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now> > > > according to> > > > > my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling> > > > sign> > > > > can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went> > into> > > > > state of denial.> > > > > >> > > > > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion> > among> > > > > learneds of the MKS of mercury.> > > > > >> > > > > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury-> > 4th> > > > house> > > > > or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person?> > > > > >> > > > > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om> > NamasSivaaya> > > > > NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS.> > > > > >> > > > > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds.> > > > > >> > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > Pranav> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Souravji You will not find manager in real sense without Shukra influencing arthakona in D10. Factors which products manager doesnt justify calling Buddha karaka for managment, otherwise You can link all 4 10H karakas to all jobs, as all of them require these energies. Fact that manager is instructed by Surya(administrator) doesnt justify it either. We must be clear about our definitions and karakas. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Sourav napisał(a): || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Rafal-ji, namaskar. There are various levels of management just like there are various degrees in Business studies. Budha develops skill, invents, finds solution to road blocks. He does product management. This is because he has learned his skills from Guru (owner of natural 3rd - guru upadesa) and has been instructed by Surya - administration. On the other hand, Shukra controls jalatatva and indicates people skills and people management. Sani likes prodding effort and hence needs a leader, Mars. This is why there are so many different kaarakas of the 10th house. Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. Best wishes, Sourav ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= = sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Sourav, > > Some corrections: Sani is for effort, Venus is for managment. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > Tarun napisa?(a): > > > > || Vande Mataram || > > > > Dear Sourav ji, > > > > First...a Very very Happy Independence Day. > > > > Many Thanks for your mail. > > > > Yes this point is very valuable to keep in mind that upachya lord can > > be happy in upachya only. > > > > I will defintely explore saravali again. and mercury is a planet > > which is artifical intelligence so it can dig anything. > > > > Please donot break your this session of forum writings. > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > "Sourav" <souravc108@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Tarun, > > > namaskar. Yes, indeed. Thank you for your > > > welcome. Budha is karaka of effort, management, speech etc. and > > owns the > > > natural upachayas. Hence it is best in these upachaya houses. Read > > > Saravali for understanding. If Budha is lagnesh in the 8th, then the > > > person can have a lot of information i.e. will know something for > > > everything and can talk about any topic. > > > > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ==== > > ==\ > > > =========== > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > "Tarun" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav ji, > > > > > > > > You are writing back on forums after very long time. > > > > and its pleasure to read your postings. > > > > > > > > What houses can be said best for mercury to explore ? > > > > if 4/7 houses are boudage in some kind of form and which makes > > budh > > > > feeling uncomfortable in them. > > > > > > > > 9th again is dharma, and 8th house is research moreover. > > > > > > > > Please suggest further. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pranav, > > > > > Namaskar. Just like uccha-neecha > > > > > (exaltation/ debilitation) is derived from the conflict of the > > > > nature of > > > > > rasis and grahas, Maranakaraka is similarly based on the > > conflict > > > > of the > > > > > Karakatva of the graha and the nature of the natural Karakas of > > the > > > > > house. Notice that here we are recoking houses and not rasis. . > > 4th > > > > MKS > > > > > is like asking Budha, a child, to sit indoors (4th house) and > > study > > > > and > > > > > do house work, while the rest of the world outdoors is waiting > > for > > > > him > > > > > to explore. Too much of all work and no play will make him dull. > > > > 7th is > > > > > relationships and maintaining all the proprieties and > > boundaries. > > > > Notice > > > > > the conflicting nature of Budha and 7th house karaka Shukra. > > Budha's > > > > > exaltation debilitates Shukra. > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay-ji prefers 7th MKS for Budha. If Budha is in the 4th, see > > > > Budha's > > > > > relationship with Chandra. If Budha is in the 7th see his > > > > relationship > > > > > with Shukra. This will give you the clue as to how aggravated > > the > > > > > situation could be felt. As with everything, there is tempering. > > > > > > > > > > The remedy of a situation is always based on the problem. Of > > course > > > > > worshipping is always a positive action. But here, we want to > > > > improve > > > > > the conflict of karakatva. So Sanjay-ji recommended praying to > > > > > Adhidevata of the natural karaka of the house, i.e. if in 7th > > MKS, > > > > then > > > > > pray to Mother Lakshmi. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry but I didn't hear that MKS of a graha gives death. It is > > > > instead > > > > > death-like suffering. > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= > > ========= ==== > > > > ==\ > > > > > ============ ========= ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > !Om Gurave Namah! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, Namaskar! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday I was looking at a chart with a debilitated > > Mercury > > > > in the > > > > > 7th house and the person is running Virgo Narayan Dasa. Now > > > > according to > > > > > my understanding a debilitated planet in MKS in ND of the ruling > > > > sign > > > > > can cause death. After looking at the chart I immediately went > > into > > > > > state of denial. > > > > > > > > > > > > And then, I remembered that there is a conflict of opinion > > among > > > > > learneds of the MKS of mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can some one clarify what is the MKS placement of Mercury- > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > or 7th house? And what is a good remedy for this person? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am thinking Jyotirlinga Mantra of Lord Shiva "Om > > NamasSivaaya > > > > > NamoMallikaarjunaay a" can help get this Mercury out of MKS. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will appreciate comments and feedback from the learneds. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Pranav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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