Regards to Progeny D1 and D7-More Doubts

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Hi Anand and others

 

I have more doubts in this case ->

 

CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

chart?

CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in D1

chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7 chart ?

Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

first house of pregnancy for female ?

 

thanks

angel

 

 

--- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa wrote:

 

> Dear Learned,

>

> For male we are recommended to look for number

> of children or the first

> progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> Jupiter.

> For female the 9H from Lagna and

> Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> Jup????

>

> There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> Sign then 5H Zodically

> and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

>

> Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart how

> should we do Male chart

> if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> 9H??

> And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> even Sign should we

> take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

>

> Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> even or Odd) and for a male or from female chart???

> How to take as the first

> child???

>

> Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> crossess RAHU or in

> conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop counting

> further children???

>

> Please HELP.. to understand???

> --

> Thanks

> Anand Srivatsa

>

 

 

many thanks

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Angel,

 

1. It can show sudden childbirth or unusual circumstances.

 

Please analyze this chart:

 

November 22, 1971

Time: 2:47:40

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 14 E 45' 10", 51 N 56' 10"

 

Child birth of girl with serious health problem (gens) : Sep of 2002

 

1) Rasi: 6L is in fifth bhava which threatenes the health of

the child.

 

2) Timing: It was Shukra- Chandra dasa per Naisargik, and

Sani-Chandra per Buddhi Gati. From Cova

we know that Moon in Bandhubhava can give child. In D7 Chandra aspects

fifth bhava.

Narayana Dasa: Ge-Ta. Ta aspects 5H, and it is Lord part in Ge-trend.

Lord is with fifth lord (first child).

It was His 31 year - Mercury - Lagnesh with 5L in D7.

 

3) Lagna of child is Libra. Must have conncted to fifth lord in

D7 - Venus.

 

4) Sex: fifth lord is Venus with Buddha (girl) in Scorpio

(boy), but Shukra is also girl, so it is Girl.

 

5) Health: If sixth or tenth (for ladies) are

conjoined/associated then there is risk of miscarriage/ill health.

Fifth lord is in sixth - serious health problem.

 

6) Circumstances:

Time was connected to break of the relationship, so it was very

unstable times for native. No stable job, no home, many frustrations

and this was unwanted child. Aq dasa - Ma hates 12H which is fifth

bhava. Ma is in second from AL, sixth bhava and 8L - oppositions from

all sides.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

 

angel napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Hi Anand and others

 

I have more doubts in this case ->

 

CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

chart?

CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in D1

chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7 chart ?

Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

first house of pregnancy for female ?

 

thanks

angel

 

--- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa@

gmail.com> wrote:

 

> Dear Learned,

>

> For male we are recommended to look for number

> of children or the first

> progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> Jupiter.

> For female the 9H from Lagna and

> Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> Jup????

>

> There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> Sign then 5H Zodically

> and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

>

> Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart how

> should we do Male chart

> if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> 9H??

> And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> even Sign should we

> take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

>

> Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> even or Odd) and for a male or from female chart???

> How to take as the first

> child???

>

> Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> crossess RAHU or in

> conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop counting

> further children???

>

> Please HELP.. to understand?? ?

> --

> Thanks

> Anand Srivatsa

>

 

many thanks

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Hi Anand and others

 

I have more doubts in this case ->

 

CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

chart?

CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in D1

chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7 chart ?

Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

first house of pregnancy for female ?

 

thanks

angel

 

 

--- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa wrote:

 

> Dear Learned,

>

> For male we are recommended to look for number

> of children or the first

> progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> Jupiter.

> For female the 9H from Lagna and

> Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> Jup????

>

> There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> Sign then 5H Zodically

> and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

>

> Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart how

> should we do Male chart

> if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> 9H??

> And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> even Sign should we

> take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

>

> Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> even or Odd) and for a male or from female chart???

> How to take as the first

> child???

>

> Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> crossess RAHU or in

> conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop counting

> further children???

>

> Please HELP.. to understand???

> --

> Thanks

> Anand Srivatsa

>

 

 

many thanks

angel goel

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Angel,

 

1. It can show sudden childbirth or unusual circumstances.

 

Please analyze this chart:

 

November 22, 1971

Time: 2:47:40

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 14 E 45' 10", 51 N 56' 10"

 

Child birth of girl with serious health problem (gens) : Sep of 2002

 

1) Rasi: 6L is in fifth bhava which threatenes the health of

the child.

 

2) Timing: It was Shukra- Chandra dasa per Naisargik, and

Sani-Chandra per Buddhi Gati. From Cova

we know that Moon in Bandhubhava can give child. In D7 Chandra aspects

fifth bhava.

Narayana Dasa: Ge-Ta. Ta aspects 5H, and it is Lord part in Ge-trend.

Lord is with fifth lord (first child).

It was His 31 year - Mercury - Lagnesh with 5L in D7.

 

3) Lagna of child is Libra. Must have conncted to fifth lord in

D7 - Venus.

 

4) Sex: fifth lord is Venus with Buddha (girl) in Scorpio

(boy), but Shukra is also girl, so it is Girl.

 

5) Health: If sixth or tenth (for ladies) are

conjoined/associated then there is risk of miscarriage/ill health.

Fifth lord is in sixth - serious health problem.

 

6) Circumstances:

Time was connected to break of the relationship, so it was very

unstable times for native. No stable job, no home, many frustrations

and this was unwanted child. Aq dasa - Ma hates 12H which is fifth

bhava. Ma is in second from AL, sixth bhava and 8L - oppositions from

all sides.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

 

angel napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Hi Anand and others

 

I have more doubts in this case ->

 

CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

chart?

CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in D1

chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7 chart ?

Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

first house of pregnancy for female ?

 

thanks

angel

 

--- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa@

gmail.com> wrote:

 

> Dear Learned,

>

> For male we are recommended to look for number

> of children or the first

> progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> Jupiter.

> For female the 9H from Lagna and

> Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> Jup????

>

> There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> Sign then 5H Zodically

> and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

>

> Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart how

> should we do Male chart

> if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> 9H??

> And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> even Sign should we

> take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

>

> Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> even or Odd) and for a male or from female chart???

> How to take as the first

> child???

>

> Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> crossess RAHU or in

> conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop counting

> further children???

>

> Please HELP.. to understand?? ?

> --

> Thanks

> Anand Srivatsa

>

 

many thanks

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Dear Rafal, My original doubts have still not been answered, I went through the chart and your analysis, but still what my doubts are not correct or should I go through the theory once again on D7 or for children??

ThanksAnandOn 7/4/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Angel,

 

1. It can show sudden childbirth or unusual circumstances.

 

Please analyze this chart:

 

November 22, 1971

Time: 2:47:40

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 14 E 45' 10 " , 51 N 56' 10 "

 

Child birth of girl with serious health problem (gens) : Sep of 2002

 

1) Rasi: 6L is in fifth bhava which threatenes the health of

the child.

 

2) Timing: It was Shukra- Chandra dasa per Naisargik, and

Sani-Chandra per Buddhi Gati. From Cova

we know that Moon in Bandhubhava can give child. In D7 Chandra aspects

fifth bhava.

Narayana Dasa: Ge-Ta. Ta aspects 5H, and it is Lord part in Ge-trend.

Lord is with fifth lord (first child).

It was His 31 year - Mercury - Lagnesh with 5L in D7.

 

3) Lagna of child is Libra. Must have conncted to fifth lord in

D7 - Venus.

 

4) Sex: fifth lord is Venus with Buddha (girl) in Scorpio

(boy), but Shukra is also girl, so it is Girl.

 

5) Health: If sixth or tenth (for ladies) are

conjoined/associated then there is risk of miscarriage/ill health.

Fifth lord is in sixth - serious health problem.

 

6) Circumstances:

Time was connected to break of the relationship, so it was very

unstable times for native. No stable job, no home, many frustrations

and this was unwanted child. Aq dasa - Ma hates 12H which is fifth

bhava. Ma is in second from AL, sixth bhava and 8L - oppositions from

all sides.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

 

angel napisa³(a):

 

 

 

 

Hi Anand and others

 

I have more doubts in this case ->

 

CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

chart?

CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in D1

chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7 chart ?

Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

first house of pregnancy for female ?

 

thanks

angel

 

--- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa@

gmail.com> wrote:

 

> Dear Learned,

>

> For male we are recommended to look for number

> of children or the first

> progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> Jupiter.

> For female the 9H from Lagna and

> Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> Jup????

>

> There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> Sign then 5H Zodically

> and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

>

> Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart how

> should we do Male chart

> if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> 9H??

> And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> even Sign should we

> take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

>

> Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> even or Odd) and for a male or from female chart???

> How to take as the first

> child???

>

> Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> crossess RAHU or in

> conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop counting

> further children???

>

> Please HELP.. to understand?? ?

> --

> Thanks

> Anand Srivatsa

>

 

many thanks

angel goel

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Hi Rafal Ji

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Another question is :-

What happens when Rahu is first house of pregnancy as

per the rules of d7 analysis. But the lord of

pregnancy is exalted & strong in 6th house of d7

chart.

 

Also,what if ketu is present in the first house of

pregnancy. Usually ketu is called putra karka.

 

thanks

Angel

--- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Angel,

>

> 1. It can show sudden childbirth or unusual

> circumstances.

>

> Please analyze this chart:

>

> November 22, 1971

> Time: 2:47:40

> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 14 E 45' 10 " , 51 N 56' 10 "

>

> Child birth of girl with serious health problem

> (gens) : Sep of 2002

>

> 1) *Rasi:* 6L is in fifth bhava which threatenes the

> health of the child.

>

> 2) *Timing:* It was Shukra- Chandra dasa per

> Naisargik, and Sani-Chandra

> per Buddhi Gati. From Cova

> we know that Moon in Bandhubhava can give child. In

> D7 Chandra aspects

> fifth bhava.

> Narayana Dasa: Ge-Ta. Ta aspects 5H, and it is Lord

> part in Ge-trend.

> Lord is with fifth lord (first child).

> It was His 31 year - Mercury - Lagnesh with 5L in

> D7.

>

> 3) *Lagna of child is Libra.* Must have conncted to

> fifth lord in D7 -

> Venus.

>

> 4) *Sex:* fifth lord is Venus with Buddha (girl) in

> Scorpio (boy), but

> Shukra is also girl, so it is Girl.

>

> 5) *Health:* If sixth or tenth (for ladies) are

> conjoined/associated

> then there is risk of miscarriage/ill health.

> Fifth lord is in sixth - serious health problem.

>

> 6) *Circumstances: *Time was connected to break of

> the relationship, so

> it was very unstable times for native. No stable

> job, no home, many

> frustrations and this was unwanted child. Aq dasa -

> Ma hates 12H which

> is fifth bhava. Ma is in second from AL, sixth bhava

> and 8L -

> oppositions from all sides.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

>

> angel napisa?(a):

> >

> > Hi Anand and others

> >

> > I have more doubts in this case ->

> >

> > CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

> > chart?

> > CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in

> D1

> > chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7

> chart ?

> > Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

> > first house of pregnancy for female ?

> >

> > thanks

> > angel

> >

> > --- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa@ gmail.com

> > <anandsrivatsa%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Learned,

> > >

> > > For male we are recommended to look for number

> > > of children or the first

> > > progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> > > Jupiter.

> > > For female the 9H from Lagna and

> > > Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> > > Jup????

> > >

> > > There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> > > Sign then 5H Zodically

> > > and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

> > >

> > > Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart

> how

> > > should we do Male chart

> > > if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> > > 9H??

> > > And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> > > even Sign should we

> > > take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

> > >

> > > Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> > > Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> > > even or Odd) and for a male or from female

> chart???

> > > How to take as the first

> > > child???

> > >

> > > Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> > > crossess RAHU or in

> > > conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop

> counting

> > > further children???

> > >

> > > Please HELP.. to understand?? ?

> > > --

> > > Thanks

> > > Anand Srivatsa

> > >

> >

> > many thanks

> > angel goel

> > ============ =======

> >

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Hi Rafal Ji

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Another question is :-

What happens when Rahu is first house of pregnancy as

per the rules of d7 analysis. But the lord of

pregnancy is exalted & strong in 6th house of d7

chart.

 

Also,what if ketu is present in the first house of

pregnancy. Usually ketu is called putra karka.

 

thanks

Angel

--- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Angel,

>

> 1. It can show sudden childbirth or unusual

> circumstances.

>

> Please analyze this chart:

>

> November 22, 1971

> Time: 2:47:40

> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 14 E 45' 10 " , 51 N 56' 10 "

>

> Child birth of girl with serious health problem

> (gens) : Sep of 2002

>

> 1) *Rasi:* 6L is in fifth bhava which threatenes the

> health of the child.

>

> 2) *Timing:* It was Shukra- Chandra dasa per

> Naisargik, and Sani-Chandra

> per Buddhi Gati. From Cova

> we know that Moon in Bandhubhava can give child. In

> D7 Chandra aspects

> fifth bhava.

> Narayana Dasa: Ge-Ta. Ta aspects 5H, and it is Lord

> part in Ge-trend.

> Lord is with fifth lord (first child).

> It was His 31 year - Mercury - Lagnesh with 5L in

> D7.

>

> 3) *Lagna of child is Libra.* Must have conncted to

> fifth lord in D7 -

> Venus.

>

> 4) *Sex:* fifth lord is Venus with Buddha (girl) in

> Scorpio (boy), but

> Shukra is also girl, so it is Girl.

>

> 5) *Health:* If sixth or tenth (for ladies) are

> conjoined/associated

> then there is risk of miscarriage/ill health.

> Fifth lord is in sixth - serious health problem.

>

> 6) *Circumstances: *Time was connected to break of

> the relationship, so

> it was very unstable times for native. No stable

> job, no home, many

> frustrations and this was unwanted child. Aq dasa -

> Ma hates 12H which

> is fifth bhava. Ma is in second from AL, sixth bhava

> and 8L -

> oppositions from all sides.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

>

> angel napisa?(a):

> >

> > Hi Anand and others

> >

> > I have more doubts in this case ->

> >

> > CASE1 -> what if male has rahu in 5th house in D1

> > chart?

> > CASE2 -> what if female has ketu in 9th house in

> D1

> > chart and also in first lord of progeny in D7

> chart ?

> > Lord of first progent in conjunction with rahu in

> > first house of pregnancy for female ?

> >

> > thanks

> > angel

> >

> > --- Anand Srivatsa <anandsrivatsa@ gmail.com

> > <anandsrivatsa%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Learned,

> > >

> > > For male we are recommended to look for number

> > > of children or the first

> > > progeny from 5H from Lagna and also to look from

> > > Jupiter.

> > > For female the 9H from Lagna and

> > > Q) should we look for 9th from Jup or 5th from

> > > Jup????

> > >

> > > There is another dictum if Lagna falls in Even

> > > Sign then 5H Zodically

> > > and if it falls in Even then backwards 9H.

> > >

> > > Q) for the above dictum if it is a male chart

> how

> > > should we do Male chart

> > > if Lagna is in Even Sign then should we take the

> > > 9H??

> > > And if it is a female chart and it falls in an

> > > even Sign should we

> > > take the first child from 5H or the 9H??

> > >

> > > Does the same applies in the D7 too?? Same From

> > > Lagna (Even/Odd) Jup(

> > > even or Odd) and for a male or from female

> chart???

> > > How to take as the first

> > > child???

> > >

> > > Another if the lord of the first or 2nd Progeny

> > > crossess RAHU or in

> > > conjunct with Rahu or Ketu, should we stop

> counting

> > > further children???

> > >

> > > Please HELP.. to understand?? ?

> > > --

> > > Thanks

> > > Anand Srivatsa

> > >

> >

> > many thanks

> > angel goel

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> >

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