To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

[Guest guest]

, "prathoshg" <prathoshg wrote:>> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha> > > dear Rafal ji> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...> > > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...> > > > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA> ATTITUDE...> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN GIVE THEIR> OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG> THANKING U> PRATHOSH> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU>

[Guest guest]

om krishna guru,dear prathosh ,u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,somethinglike that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plightof astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get freeservice)U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change urfate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who investhis time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved bygod ,let it be .But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they showlite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma today onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problemso reduce this or that and take this medicine.Again upto u .regrds sunil nair .om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "prathoshg" <prathoshg wrote:>> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha> > > dear Rafal ji> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...> > > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...> > > > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA> ATTITUDE...> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN GIVE THEIR> OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG> THANKING U> PRATHOSH> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU>

[Guest guest]

II Om Gurave Namah II* om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *Hari OM,Dear friends,

Knowledge is power, that can be used to help as well as destroy any one

on physical. mental , moral and spiritual planes that need protection.

The intensions are really good and are aimed to help people but Is it

necessary to use harsh and hard words for it? Late Jagannath Bhasin

exhibeted the principle we now call as curse , but he simply cautioned

astrologers to become alert and probe why and where trouble is going

to manifest.Now that was a knowledge.Kaal sharp yoga, sarpa yoga. sade sati

, panoti mangalic dosa etc all are word that ignites fear in the minds of people.

Since here astrologers are highly knowledgeable thay can really afford to

be more simple in wording their reasoning.

Please do not take offence, i am not subscribing to any allegations that are

apparant, i am submitting astrologers could be simple in expression, as my

belief is wise man can make comlpicated things look simple and can propell

for right observence of ritual associated for protection against impending dangers.

With kind regards.

 

 

OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."

 

-

astro_tellerkerala

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:19 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

om krishna guru,dear prathosh ,u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,somethinglike that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plightof astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get freeservice)U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change urfate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who investhis time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved bygod ,let it be .But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they showlite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma today onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problemso reduce this or that and take this medicine.Again upto u .regrds sunil nair .om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "prathoshg" <prathoshg wrote:>> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha> > > dear Rafal ji> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...> > > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...> > > > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA> ATTITUDE...> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN GIVE THEIR> OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG> THANKING U> PRATHOSH> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU>

[Guest guest]

This group, I believe is a group for gaining

knowledge and not for personal predictions.

In the first place, please refrain from

asking for personal predictions and advises.

Astrological words are technical and need

not be taken literally every time.

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of swami

Wednesday, March 14, 2007

11:24 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

II Om

Gurave Namah II

* om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *

Hari OM,Dear friends,

 

 

Knowledge is power, that can be used to

help as well as destroy any one

 

 

on physical. mental , moral and

spiritual planes that need protection.

 

 

The intensions are really good and are

aimed to help people but Is it

 

 

necessary to use harsh and hard

words for it? Late Jagannath Bhasin

 

 

exhibeted the principle we now call as

curse , but he simply cautioned

 

 

astrologers to become alert and probe

why and where trouble is going

 

 

to manifest.Now that was a

knowledge.Kaal sharp yoga, sarpa yoga. sade sati

 

 

, panoti mangalic dosa etc

all are word that ignites fear in the minds of people.

 

 

Since here astrologers are highly

knowledgeable thay can really afford to

 

 

be more simple in wording their

reasoning.

 

 

Please do not take offence, i am not

subscribing to any allegations that are

 

 

apparant, i am submitting

astrologers could be simple in expression, as my

 

 

belief is wise man

can make comlpicated things look simple and can propell

 

 

for right observence

of ritual associated for protection against impending dangers.

 

 

With kind regards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OM TATSAT

------------------------

R.C.Srivastava

B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi

Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;

Mob 9412268768

Email: swami_rcs :Skype:

swami daivayga

------------------------

 

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has

created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

 

 

 

-

 

 

astro_tellerkerala

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wednesday, March

14, 2007 2:19 AM

 

 

[Om Krishna Guru]

Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

 

 

om

krishna guru,

 

dear prathosh ,

 

u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,something

like that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plight

of astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology

,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get free

service)

 

U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on

chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses

(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .

 

no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change ur

fate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who invest

his time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved by

god ,let it be .

 

But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they show

lite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .

 

If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma to

day onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.

 

Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )

that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problem

so reduce this or that and take this medicine.

 

Again upto u .

 

regrds sunil nair .

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

,

" prathoshg " <prathoshg wrote:

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya

Namaha

>

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

>

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN GIVE THEIR

> OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Jai Gurudev!

 

Sorry for a blunt reply. But one of the

reasons I am saying this is that if anyone replies without using a technical

word, while trying to soothen a prediction, members who have joined to gain

knowledge in this group will not be able to understand the reasoning behind

predictions. If I am in the wrong group, then my statements do not hold true.

 

Regards

Nagendra

 

 

 

 

 

Nagendra

Chikkanayakanahalli

Wednesday, March 14, 2007

12:05 PM

' '

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

This group, I believe is a group for

gaining knowledge and not for personal predictions.

In the first place, please refrain from

asking for personal predictions and advises.

Astrological words are technical and need

not be taken literally every time.

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of swami

Wednesday, March 14, 2007

11:24 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

II Om

Gurave Namah II

* om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *

Hari OM,Dear friends,

 

 

Knowledge is power, that can be used to

help as well as destroy any one

 

 

on physical. mental , moral and

spiritual planes that need protection.

 

 

The intensions are really good and are

aimed to help people but Is it

 

 

necessary to use harsh and hard

words for it? Late Jagannath Bhasin

 

 

exhibeted the principle we now call as

curse , but he simply cautioned

 

 

astrologers to become alert and probe

why and where trouble is going

 

 

to manifest.Now that was a

knowledge.Kaal sharp yoga, sarpa yoga. sade sati

 

 

, panoti mangalic dosa etc

all are word that ignites fear in the minds of people.

 

 

Since here astrologers are highly

knowledgeable thay can really afford to

 

 

be more simple in wording their

reasoning.

 

 

Please do not take offence, i am not

subscribing to any allegations that are

 

 

apparant, i am submitting

astrologers could be simple in expression, as my

 

 

belief is wise man

can make comlpicated things look simple and can propell

 

 

for right observence

of ritual associated for protection against impending dangers.

 

 

With kind regards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OM TATSAT

------------------------

R.C.Srivastava

B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi

Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;

Mob 9412268768

Email: swami_rcs :Skype:

swami daivayga

------------------------

 

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has

created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

 

 

 

-

 

 

astro_tellerkerala

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wednesday, March

14, 2007 2:19 AM

 

 

[Om Krishna Guru]

Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

 

 

om

krishna guru,

 

dear prathosh ,

 

u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,something

like that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plight

of astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology

,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get free

service)

 

U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on

chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses

(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .

 

no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change ur

fate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who invest

his time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved by

god ,let it be .

 

But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they show

lite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .

 

If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma to

day onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.

 

Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )

that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problem

so reduce this or that and take this medicine.

 

Again upto u .

 

regrds sunil nair .

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

,

" prathoshg " <prathoshg wrote:

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya

Namaha

>

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

>

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN GIVE THEIR

> OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

 

 

 

 

 

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II Om Gurave Namah II* om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *Hari OM

Dear Nagendra,

I am not a guru and am a student like many others here.

In fact it was a pleasure to read your message.You were neither blunt nor you

are in a wrong group.

Your view point as expressed , makes it amply rewarding , if Students seeking knowledge

are answered in technical terms, as discussion may be on illustrative charts, It is fine if technical words are used.

For seeker of help, they may be answered using language that does not hurt in simple terminology.

Here it will be pertinent to end the thread with a concluding observation on my part.

1. Knowledge about curses and various dosa is spread in various texts from BPHS to Prasna Marg, nothing is new or bad if application are discussed in open forum But question is we should be sensitive in expression and use of hard hitting words.

2. We are grateful to Gurus like S rath and PVR who took initiative to disclose mool dasa application to time curse manifestation enabling differentiation from other dosa operation.Certainly they knew reason why it was kept secret, now since we know as Astrologers how to use this type of sutras and knowledge we carry more burdon of requirements of quqlification of a astrologer.

 

OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."

 

-

Nagendra Chikkanayakanahalli

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:12 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

 

Jai Gurudev!

 

Sorry for a blunt reply. But one of the reasons I am saying this is that if anyone replies without using a technical word, while trying to soothen a prediction, members who have joined to gain knowledge in this group will not be able to understand the reasoning behind predictions. If I am in the wrong group, then my statements do not hold true.

 

Regards

Nagendra

 

 

 

 

 

Nagendra Chikkanayakanahalli Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM' 'RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

This group, I believe is a group for gaining knowledge and not for personal predictions.

In the first place, please refrain from asking for personal predictions and advises.

Astrological words are technical and need not be taken literally every time.

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of swamiWednesday, March 14, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

II Om Gurave Namah II* om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *Hari OM,Dear friends,

 

Knowledge is power, that can be used to help as well as destroy any one

 

on physical. mental , moral and spiritual planes that need protection.

 

The intensions are really good and are aimed to help people but Is it

 

necessary to use harsh and hard words for it? Late Jagannath Bhasin

 

exhibeted the principle we now call as curse , but he simply cautioned

 

astrologers to become alert and probe why and where trouble is going

 

to manifest.Now that was a knowledge.Kaal sharp yoga, sarpa yoga. sade sati

 

, panoti mangalic dosa etc all are word that ignites fear in the minds of people.

 

Since here astrologers are highly knowledgeable thay can really afford to

 

be more simple in wording their reasoning.

 

Please do not take offence, i am not subscribing to any allegations that are

 

apparant, i am submitting astrologers could be simple in expression, as my

 

belief is wise man can make comlpicated things look simple and can propell

 

for right observence of ritual associated for protection against impending dangers.

 

With kind regards.

 

 

 

 

 

OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs :Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."

 

 

-

 

astro_tellerkerala

 

 

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:19 AM

 

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

 

 

 

om krishna guru,dear prathosh ,u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,somethinglike that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plightof astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get freeservice)U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change urfate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who investhis time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved bygod ,let it be .But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they showlite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma today onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problemso reduce this or that and take this medicine.Again upto u .regrds sunil nair .om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "prathoshg" <prathoshg wrote:>> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha> > > dear Rafal ji> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...> > > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...> > > > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA> ATTITUDE...> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN GIVE THEIR> OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG> THANKING U> PRATHOSH> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU>

 

 

 

 

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respected guruji

 

thanx for replyin to my query guruji & yes guruji i aws born in new

delhi , i'm grateful to you , guruji the astrologer who told me that

i had lagna vargottama also told me that this is a very special

occurence ie. having lagna vargottama is very rare & this will bring

enormous fortune of financial nature as well , guruji i would like

to know abt ma overall financial condition & what business or job

would be preferable for me , wud i be good in business or job ? i'm

currently a student of engineering & i'm doing B.tech in electronic

& communication but i'm not very good at studies & thus also request

you to enlighten me as to what is the reason behind ma hampered

growth in studies . hope to hear from you soon

 

yours respectfully,

 

Pranav sharma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " swami " <swami_rcs wrote:

>

>

> II Om Gurave Namah II

> * om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *

> Hari OM

> Dear Nagendra,

> I am not a guru and am a student like many others here.

> In fact it was a pleasure to read your message.You were neither

blunt nor you

> are in a wrong group.

> Your view point as expressed , makes it amply rewarding , if

Students seeking knowledge

> are answered in technical terms, as discussion may be on

illustrative charts, It is fine if technical words are used.

> For seeker of help, they may be answered using language that

does not hurt in simple terminology.

> Here it will be pertinent to end the thread with a concluding

observation on my part.

> 1. Knowledge about curses and various dosa is spread in various

texts from BPHS to Prasna Marg, nothing is new or bad if application

are discussed in open forum But question is we should be sensitive

in expression and use of hard hitting words.

> 2. We are grateful to Gurus like S rath and PVR who took

initiative to disclose mool dasa application to time curse

manifestation enabling differentiation from other dosa

operation.Certainly they knew reason why it was kept secret, now

since we know as Astrologers how to use this type of sutras and

knowledge we carry more burdon of requirements of quqlification of a

astrologer.

>

>

>

>

> OM TATSAT

> ------------------------

> R.C.Srivastava

> B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi

> Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;

> Mob 9412268768

> Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga

> ------------------------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> -

> Nagendra Chikkanayakanahalli

>

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:12 PM

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

>

>

>

> Jai Gurudev!

>

>

>

> Sorry for a blunt reply. But one of the reasons I am saying this

is that if anyone replies without using a technical word, while

trying to soothen a prediction, members who have joined to gain

knowledge in this group will not be able to understand the reasoning

behind predictions. If I am in the wrong group, then my statements

do not hold true.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Nagendra

>

>

>

>

> -

-----------

>

> Nagendra Chikkanayakanahalli

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM

> ' '

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

>

>

>

> This group, I believe is a group for gaining knowledge and not

for personal predictions.

>

> In the first place, please refrain from asking for personal

predictions and advises.

>

> Astrological words are technical and need not be taken literally

every time.

>

>

>

>

> -

-----------

>

>

On Behalf Of swami

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:24 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

>

>

>

>

>

> II Om Gurave Namah II

> * om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *

> Hari OM,Dear friends,

>

> Knowledge is power, that can be used to help as well as destroy

any one

>

> on physical. mental , moral and spiritual planes that need

protection.

>

> The intensions are really good and are aimed to help people but

Is it

>

> necessary to use harsh and hard words for it? Late Jagannath

Bhasin

>

> exhibeted the principle we now call as curse , but he simply

cautioned

>

> astrologers to become alert and probe why and where trouble is

going

>

> to manifest.Now that was a knowledge.Kaal sharp yoga, sarpa

yoga. sade sati

>

> , panoti mangalic dosa etc all are word that ignites fear in

the minds of people.

>

> Since here astrologers are highly knowledgeable thay can really

afford to

>

> be more simple in wording their reasoning.

>

> Please do not take offence, i am not subscribing to any

allegations that are

>

> apparant, i am submitting astrologers could be simple in

expression, as my

>

> belief is wise man can make comlpicated things look simple and

can propell

>

> for right observence of ritual associated for protection

against impending dangers.

>

> With kind regards.

OM TATSAT

> ------------------------

> R.C.Srivastava

> B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi

> Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;

> Mob 9412268768

> Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga

> ------------------------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our

understanding. "

>

> -

>

> astro_tellerkerala

>

>

>

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:19 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

>

>

>

> om krishna guru,

>

> dear prathosh ,

>

> u asked deal with human being in mild way or

carefully,something

> like that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget

the plight

> of astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free

astrology

> ,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get

free

> service)

>

> U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on

> chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from

overses

> (u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .

>

> no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot

change ur

> fate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who

invest

> his time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be

saved by

> god ,let it be .

>

> But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as

they show

> lite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .

>

> If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good

karma to

> day onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his

calibre.

>

> Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential

one )

> that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav

this problem

> so reduce this or that and take this medicine.

>

> Again upto u .

>

> regrds sunil nair .

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

> , " prathoshg " <prathoshg@>

wrote:

> >

> > Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

> >

> >

> > dear Rafal ji

> >

> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer

in This

> > or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an

astrologer shd

> > beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and

shd

> > Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The

Natives...

> >

> >

> > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> > Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka

and ketu

> > u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i

dono...But

> > Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very

Terribly

> > and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried

so so so

> > hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and

my atma

> > has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

> >

> >

> >

> > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH

HUMANS

> > EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE

MINDA

> > ATTITUDE...

> > I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> > LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN

GIVE THEIR

> > OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG

> > THANKING U

> > PRATHOSH

> > SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

> >

>

>

>

>

> -

-----------

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[Guest guest]

, " verner_von_croy "

<verner_von_croy wrote:

>

>

> respected guruji

>

> thanx for replyin to my query guruji & yes guruji i aws born in

new

> delhi , i'm grateful to you , guruji the astrologer who told me

that

> i had lagna vargottama also told me that this is a very special

> occurence ie. having lagna vargottama is very rare & this will

bring

> enormous fortune of financial nature as well , guruji i would like

> to know abt ma overall financial condition & what business or job

> would be preferable for me , wud i be good in business or job ?

i'm

> currently a student of engineering & i'm doing B.tech in

electronic

> & communication but i'm not very good at studies & thus also

request

> you to enlighten me as to what is the reason behind ma hampered

> growth in studies . hope to hear from you soon

>

> yours respectfully,

>

> Pranav sharma

>

>

, " swami " <swami_rcs@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > II Om Gurave Namah II

> > * om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *

> > Hari OM

> > Dear Nagendra,

> > I am not a guru and am a student like many others here.

> > In fact it was a pleasure to read your message.You were neither

> blunt nor you

> > are in a wrong group.

> > Your view point as expressed , makes it amply rewarding , if

> Students seeking knowledge

> > are answered in technical terms, as discussion may be on

> illustrative charts, It is fine if technical words are used.

> > For seeker of help, they may be answered using language that

> does not hurt in simple terminology.

> > Here it will be pertinent to end the thread with a concluding

> observation on my part.

> > 1. Knowledge about curses and various dosa is spread in various

> texts from BPHS to Prasna Marg, nothing is new or bad if

application

> are discussed in open forum But question is we should be sensitive

> in expression and use of hard hitting words.

> > 2. We are grateful to Gurus like S rath and PVR who took

> initiative to disclose mool dasa application to time curse

> manifestation enabling differentiation from other dosa

> operation.Certainly they knew reason why it was kept secret, now

> since we know as Astrologers how to use this type of sutras and

> knowledge we carry more burdon of requirements of quqlification of

a

> astrologer.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > OM TATSAT

> > ------------------------

> > R.C.Srivastava

> > B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi

> > Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;

> > Mob 9412268768

> > Email: swami_rcs@:Skype: swami daivayga

> > ------------------------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > -

> > Nagendra Chikkanayakanahalli

> >

> > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:12 PM

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

> Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

> >

> >

> >

> > Jai Gurudev!

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry for a blunt reply. But one of the reasons I am saying

this

> is that if anyone replies without using a technical word, while

> trying to soothen a prediction, members who have joined to gain

> knowledge in this group will not be able to understand the

reasoning

> behind predictions. If I am in the wrong group, then my statements

> do not hold true.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Nagendra

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------

--

> -----------

> >

> > Nagendra Chikkanayakanahalli

> > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:05 PM

> > ' '

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

> Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

> >

> >

> >

> > This group, I believe is a group for gaining knowledge and not

> for personal predictions.

> >

> > In the first place, please refrain from asking for personal

> predictions and advises.

> >

> > Astrological words are technical and need not be taken

literally

> every time.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------

--

> -----------

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of swami

> > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:24 AM

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

> Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > II Om Gurave Namah II

> > * om mahäbåhaspataye namaù *

> > Hari OM,Dear friends,

> >

> > Knowledge is power, that can be used to help as well as

destroy

> any one

> >

> > on physical. mental , moral and spiritual planes that need

> protection.

> >

> > The intensions are really good and are aimed to help people

but

> Is it

> >

> > necessary to use harsh and hard words for it? Late Jagannath

> Bhasin

> >

> > exhibeted the principle we now call as curse , but he simply

> cautioned

> >

> > astrologers to become alert and probe why and where trouble

is

> going

> >

> > to manifest.Now that was a knowledge.Kaal sharp yoga, sarpa

> yoga. sade sati

> >

> > , panoti mangalic dosa etc all are word that ignites fear

in

> the minds of people.

> >

> > Since here astrologers are highly knowledgeable thay can

really

> afford to

> >

> > be more simple in wording their reasoning.

> >

> > Please do not take offence, i am not subscribing to any

> allegations that are

> >

> > apparant, i am submitting astrologers could be simple in

> expression, as my

> >

> > belief is wise man can make comlpicated things look simple

and

> can propell

> >

> > for right observence of ritual associated for protection

> against impending dangers.

> >

> > With kind regards.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > OM TATSAT

> > ------------------------

> > R.C.Srivastava

> > B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi

> > Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;

> > Mob 9412268768

> > Email: swami_rcs@:Skype: swami daivayga

> > ------------------------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

> Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our

> understanding. "

> >

> > -

> >

> > astro_tellerkerala

> >

> >

> >

> > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:19 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Rafal Ji Vistiji and all

> Astrologers in Jagannath Grp Pls Read

> >

> >

> >

> > om krishna guru,

> >

> > dear prathosh ,

> >

> > u asked deal with human being in mild way or

> carefully,something

> > like that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget

> the plight

> > of astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free

> astrology

> > ,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get

> free

> > service)

> >

> > U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on

> > chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u

from

> overses

> > (u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged

me .

> >

> > no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we

cannot

> change ur

> > fate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul

who

> invest

> > his time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will

be

> saved by

> > god ,let it be .

> >

> > But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as

> they show

> > lite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .

> >

> > If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing

good

> karma to

> > day onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his

> calibre.

> >

> > Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi

(potential

> one )

> > that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav

> this problem

> > so reduce this or that and take this medicine.

> >

> > Again upto u .

> >

> > regrds sunil nair .

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> > , " prathoshg "

<prathoshg@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

> > >

> > >

> > > dear Rafal ji

> > >

> > > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will

Suffer

> in This

> > > or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an

> astrologer shd

> > > beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and

> shd

> > > Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The

> Natives...

> > >

> > >

> > > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> > > Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun

atmakaraka

> and ketu

> > > u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i

> dono...But

> > > Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very

Very

> Terribly

> > > and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried

> so so so

> > > hardly and soundly for many months the day as u

said.....and

> my atma

> > > has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL

WITH

> HUMANS

> > > EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A

NEGATIVE

> MINDA

> > > ATTITUDE...

> > > I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> > > LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE VISTIJI AND SWAMI SRIVATSAVA JI CAN

> GIVE THEIR

> > > OPINIONS IF I AM WRONG

> > > THANKING U

> > > PRATHOSH

> > > SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------

--

> -----------

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> Services Corp (India) Pvt. Ltd. and are intended solely for the

use

> of the recipient/s to whom it is addressed. Any unauthorized

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> indirectly, and the contents therein in full or part is prohibited

> by any entity who is not a recipient. Any email received

> inadvertently or by mistake should be deleted by the entity who is

> not a recipient thereof. You may be pleased to notify the sender

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