Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, namaskar We have had this discussion before but a few questions remain unanswered. 1. why 7th house and lord? 2. what if 7L is placed in lagna? fortune from sorrow? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Here is an example of the principle arising from the lagna. If Lagnesh is in the fifth house the person will suffer on account of their children. Yet the person will receive blessings from their elders. Now lets try to understand why this is... Counting from lagna to fifth we see the weakness, whilst counting back from fifth to lagna we get the ninth house which is the blessing... still WHY is this so? So we go deeper. Wherever the Lagnesh is placed, the person is DEPENDANT on that bhava. I.e. if lagnesh is in ninth house i am DEPENDANT on my father. If my father is strong then I am strong. If father/guru is weak then I am weak. So we advise when a person has lagnesh in ninth house that should the father have his demise, the person should worship Vishnu to get through this transition, which otherwise can be very difficult. If lagnesh is in the seventh house the person is dominated by their spouse... they are dependant on the lifeforce of their spouse. So if without the guidance of their significant other the person can wander in life and be without direction or goals. If malefics join this lagnesh in seventh it can 'seem' as if the tables are turned and the person dominates over their spouse, however, in actuality the native is a real bloodsucker in the marriage and takes a lot of energy from their partner. Such people should worship Lakshmi for proper guidance. Because the fortune and sorrows will both arise from the seventh house, Parasara generally doesn't speak highly of lagnesh in seventh house. Thus lagna is the real SHUNYA or ZERO which sucks the life energy out of anything it touches. It represents the selfish nature in all of us. Now, every action has a reaction... this is simple physics... In Jyotish we have similar understanding of Karma - If you overeat you get overweight or diseases, and similarly if you keep healthy you are more likely to live longer. This action and result is the essence of these bhava-bhavesh principles, and can be expanded based on certain planetary positions. More in the future... Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, namaskar We have had this discussion before but a few questions remain unanswered. 1. why 7th house and lord? 2. what if 7L is placed in lagna? fortune from sorrow? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Dear Visti, I have lagnesh in 9th house, and I don't feel I am dependant on my father. In broader sense, of course, I am dependant on the temple (9th house matter) where I live. I am aspiring to become independant from the temple though. Is this a lifelong situation, or can there be change for me? Regarding the blessing I should get from 5th house, when will it come? I don't have children yet, though I sponsor a poor child in India since last year. What other blessings may I expect? Yours, Dhira Krsna <<Tel. +3286387014>><<Anyone can use this generic recruiting systemto produce endless leads and sponsor more reps faster and easierthan they ever thought possible:dhira.magneticsponsoringonline.com>>http://jyotishi.150m.com/Vemma-International.html - Visti Larsen Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:25 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Areas of sorrow and fortune by counting 7L placement from 7H हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Ramesh, NamaskarHere is an example of the principle arising from the lagna. If Lagnesh is in the fifth house the person will suffer on account of their children. Yet the person will receive blessings from their elders. Now lets try to understand why this is... Counting from lagna to fifth we see the weakness, whilst counting back from fifth to lagna we get the ninth house which is the blessing... still WHY is this so? So we go deeper. Wherever the Lagnesh is placed, the person is DEPENDANT on that bhava. I.e. if lagnesh is in ninth house i am DEPENDANT on my father. If my father is strong then I am strong. If father/guru is weak then I am weak. So we advise when a person has lagnesh in ninth house that should the father have his demise, the person should worship Vishnu to get through this transition, which otherwise can be very difficult. If lagnesh is in the seventh house the person is dominated by their spouse... they are dependant on the lifeforce of their spouse. So if without the guidance of their significant other the person can wander in life and be without direction or goals. If malefics join this lagnesh in seventh it can 'seem' as if the tables are turned and the person dominates over their spouse, however, in actuality the native is a real bloodsucker in the marriage and takes a lot of energy from their partner. Such people should worship Lakshmi for proper guidance. Because the fortune and sorrows will both arise from the seventh house, Parasara generally doesn't speak highly of lagnesh in seventh house. Thus lagna is the real SHUNYA or ZERO which sucks the life energy out of anything it touches. It represents the selfish nature in all of us. Now, every action has a reaction... this is simple physics... In Jyotish we have similar understanding of Karma - If you overeat you get overweight or diseases, and similarly if you keep healthy you are more likely to live longer. This action and result is the essence of these bhava-bhavesh principles, and can be expanded based on certain planetary positions. More in the future... Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, namaskar We have had this discussion before but a few questions remain unanswered. 1. why 7th house and lord? 2. what if 7L is placed in lagna? fortune from sorrow? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Visti, NamaskerThank you for a nice explanation. Canyou help me connect this logic to 7L placement? In the past you have usedexample of 7L placement in 11H indicating similar results like misfortunein area of children and good fortune in areas represented by 9H! Now LLrepresents native and its placement his dependence, how do we explain 7Lwhich represents jivatma of spouse?Is there similar logic that gets extendedto other lords?thanksRameshvistiSent by: 03/01/2007 05:25 PMPlease respond to To ccSubjectRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Areas of sorrowand fortune by counting 7L placement from 7Hहरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥Dear Ramesh, NamaskarHere is an example of the principle arising from the lagna. If Lagneshis in the fifth house the person will suffer on account of their children.Yet the person will receive blessings from their elders. Now lets try tounderstand why this is... Counting from lagna to fifth we see the weakness,whilst counting back from fifth to lagna we get the ninth house which isthe blessing... still WHY is this so?So we go deeper. Wherever the Lagnesh is placed, the personis DEPENDANT on that bhava. I.e. if lagnesh is in ninth house i am DEPENDANTon my father. If my father is strong then I am strong. If father/guru isweak then I am weak. So we advise when a person has lagnesh in ninth housethat should the father have his demise, the person should worship Vishnuto get through this transition, which otherwise can be very difficult.If lagnesh is in the seventh house the person is dominatedby their spouse... they are dependant on the lifeforce of their spouse.So if without the guidance of their significant other the person can wanderin life and be without direction or goals. If malefics join this lagneshin seventh it can 'seem' as if the tables are turned and the person dominatesover their spouse, however, in actuality the native is a real bloodsuckerin the marriage and takes a lot of energy from their partner. Such peopleshould worship Lakshmi for proper guidance. Because the fortune and sorrowswill both arise from the seventh house, Parasara generally doesn't speakhighly of lagnesh in seventh house.Thus lagna is the real SHUNYA or ZERO which sucks the lifeenergy out of anything it touches. It represents the selfish nature inall of us.Now, every action has a reaction... this is simple physics...In Jyotish we have similar understanding of Karma - If you overeat youget overweight or diseases, and similarly if you keep healthy you are morelikely to live longer. This action and result is the essence of these bhava-bhaveshprinciples, and can be expanded based on certain planetary positions. Morein the future...Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: vistiFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.comRamesh.F.Gangaramaniwrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, namaskar We have had this discussion before but a few questions remain unanswered.1. why 7th house and lord? 2. what if 7L is placed in lagna? fortune from sorrow?thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Vistiji, Couple of questions 1. If Lagna Lord is in the 5th house, does it effect all the children or only first, or second etc. 2. What if LL is in the sixth, does it mean that natives enemies will not be able to hurt him, because the LL sucks the energy out of that house. Thanks Srinivasa , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ?????? > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar > Here is an example of the principle arising from the lagna. If Lagnesh > is in the fifth house the person will suffer on account of their > children. Yet the person will receive blessings from their elders. Now > lets try to understand why this is... Counting from lagna to fifth we > see the weakness, whilst counting back from fifth to lagna we get the > ninth house which is the blessing... still WHY is this so? > > So we go deeper. Wherever the Lagnesh is placed, the person is DEPENDANT > on that bhava. I.e. if lagnesh is in ninth house i am DEPENDANT on my > father. If my father is strong then I am strong. If father/guru is weak > then I am weak. So we advise when a person has lagnesh in ninth house > that should the father have his demise, the person should worship Vishnu > to get through this transition, which otherwise can be very difficult. > > If lagnesh is in the seventh house the person is dominated by their > spouse... they are dependant on the lifeforce of their spouse. So if > without the guidance of their significant other the person can wander in > life and be without direction or goals. If malefics join this lagnesh in > seventh it can 'seem' as if the tables are turned and the person > dominates over their spouse, however, in actuality the native is a real > bloodsucker in the marriage and takes a lot of energy from their > partner. Such people should worship Lakshmi for proper guidance. Because > the fortune and sorrows will both arise from the seventh house, Parasara > generally doesn't speak highly of lagnesh in seventh house. > > Thus lagna is the real SHUNYA or ZERO which sucks the life energy out of > anything it touches. It represents the selfish nature in all of us. > > Now, every action has a reaction... this is simple physics... In Jyotish > we have similar understanding of Karma - If you overeat you get > overweight or diseases, and similarly if you keep healthy you are more > likely to live longer. This action and result is the essence of these > bhava-bhavesh principles, and can be expanded based on certain planetary > positions. More in the future... > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: > > > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Visti, namaskar > > We have had this discussion before but a few questions remain unanswered. > > 1. why 7th house and lord? > > 2. what if 7L is placed in lagna? fortune from sorrow? > > thanks > > Ramesh > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar While (re-)reading 6H chapter in COVA, I noticed similar statements; 6L in 2H, native is troubles by children. (counting 2H to 6H). But enemy is lucky in respect of children! Earlier exchange indicates following; LL in 5H, native suffers in area of children. 7L in 11H, misfortune in area of children. Can you help me reconcile the above? Notice logic in case of 6L is reverse if we look at native in all cases. But if we look at it from enemy’s point of view 6L and LL may fall in place. How about 7L? Does it show that spouse is unlucky in matters of children? Spouse being unhappy in matters of children may not be the same as native being unlucky? Thanks Ramesh Ramesh.F.Gangaramani [Ramesh.F.Gangaramani] Saturday, March 03, 2007 8:12 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Areas of sorrow and fortune by counting 7L placement from 7H Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namasker Thank you for a nice explanation. Can you help me connect this logic to 7L placement? In the past you have used example of 7L placement in 11H indicating similar results like misfortune in area of children and good fortune in areas represented by 9H! Now LL represents native and its placement his dependence, how do we explain 7L which represents jivatma of spouse? Is there similar logic that gets extended to other lords? thanks Ramesh visti Sent by: 03/01/2007 05:25 PM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Areas of sorrow and fortune by counting 7L placement from 7H ??? ??? ?????? Dear Ramesh, Namaskar Here is an example of the principle arising from the lagna. If Lagnesh is in the fifth house the person will suffer on account of their children. Yet the person will receive blessings from their elders. Now lets try to understand why this is... Counting from lagna to fifth we see the weakness, whilst counting back from fifth to lagna we get the ninth house which is the blessing... still WHY is this so? So we go deeper. Wherever the Lagnesh is placed, the person is DEPENDANT on that bhava. I.e. if lagnesh is in ninth house i am DEPENDANT on my father. If my father is strong then I am strong. If father/guru is weak then I am weak. So we advise when a person has lagnesh in ninth house that should the father have his demise, the person should worship Vishnu to get through this transition, which otherwise can be very difficult. If lagnesh is in the seventh house the person is dominated by their spouse... they are dependant on the lifeforce of their spouse. So if without the guidance of their significant other the person can wander in life and be without direction or goals. If malefics join this lagnesh in seventh it can 'seem' as if the tables are turned and the person dominates over their spouse, however, in actuality the native is a real bloodsucker in the marriage and takes a lot of energy from their partner. Such people should worship Lakshmi for proper guidance. Because the fortune and sorrows will both arise from the seventh house, Parasara generally doesn't speak highly of lagnesh in seventh house. Thus lagna is the real SHUNYA or ZERO which sucks the life energy out of anything it touches. It represents the selfish nature in all of us. Now, every action has a reaction... this is simple physics... In Jyotish we have similar understanding of Karma - If you overeat you get overweight or diseases, and similarly if you keep healthy you are more likely to live longer. This action and result is the essence of these bhava-bhavesh principles, and can be expanded based on certain planetary positions. More in the future... Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, namaskar We have had this discussion before but a few questions remain unanswered. 1. why 7th house and lord? 2. what if 7L is placed in lagna? fortune from sorrow? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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